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Aug 24 14:29:27 <rah> https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
Aug 24 14:32:49 <bencoh> yet another?
Aug 24 14:33:08 <bencoh> "The CPU will be an i.MX6/i.MX8" ooh
Aug 24 14:33:19 <bencoh> that'd be a first actually
Aug 24 15:14:01 <rah> bencoh: "another"?
Aug 24 15:15:08 <bencoh> rah: "yet another pseudo-secured phone". but at least it's not qualcomm this time
Aug 24 15:15:25 <rah> bencoh: I don't know what you're talking about
Aug 24 15:15:49 <bencoh> and they thought about the host/baseband isolation issue
Aug 24 15:17:03 <bencoh> rah: there are quite a lot of "secured phone" projects around, but they don't do anything about the modem being master on everything in your phone. this project seems surprisingly better in that regard :)
Aug 24 15:20:55 <rah> they do describe the phone as "security-focused" but they don't say explicitly what they mean by that
Aug 24 15:21:40 <rah> so it doesn't really mean anything
Aug 24 15:21:42 <rah> it's just a phone
Aug 24 15:21:45 <rah> that runs GNU/Linux
Aug 24 15:22:21 <rah> for me, the value is nothing to do with security and entirely to do with running GNU/Linux
Aug 24 15:28:43 <rah> isolating the modem, hardware switches, etc., is good but nowhere near as good as a phone that runs GNU/Linux and works
Aug 24 15:29:43 <rah> just getting that is such a massive achievement as to dwarf anything else
Aug 24 15:41:06 <rah> in fact, if you look at the little cartoon of a crowd at the very end of the page, there are placards with "Librem 5", "FREEDOM", etc.
Aug 24 15:41:17 <rah> none of those placards have "security" on them..
Aug 24 17:59:35 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: link?
Aug 24 17:59:54 <DocScrutinizer05> bencoh: sorry, I had a service downtime
Aug 25 01:08:56 <pabs3> DocScrutinizer05: https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
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