**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Oct 10 03:00:01 2017 Oct 10 03:47:35 pabs3: I'm trying to slowly make a contact. I don't think rushing in telling them "how to do it right" is perceived well unless _they_ ask _me_. And actually I think they don't do all bad already Oct 10 03:49:39 I've also had some discussion with them a while ago and told them to go talk to Neo900 folks about this, hopefully they will Oct 10 03:50:39 jonas (one of the Debian folks at Purism) seemed to be receptive and said he would pass on the info Oct 10 03:54:53 I'm seeing a number of topics that are unclear and potentially suboptimal. Then OTOH while Neo900 is short on customers/funds, my altruism for competitors is limited, unless we can buold up a relationship that's beneficial to both sides Oct 10 03:56:51 IOW: sounds good, I'll wait if they approach me then Oct 10 03:58:05 hmm, 'competitors' doesn't seem like the right word to be using. Oct 10 03:58:18 They have started off on the right foot by choosing a decent SoC for the project Oct 10 03:58:20 found no better Oct 10 03:59:07 Anytime I see a phone claiming to be different/better than whats out there but that has anything from Qualcomm in it, I immediately move on Oct 10 03:59:25 I wouldn't trust any phone running a Qualcomm SoC no matter what the software stack looks like Oct 10 03:59:31 anyway when I help them improve their design to Neo900 level, they _wull_ be competitors, or contracted partners Oct 10 03:59:32 or what they are doing for cellular radio hardware Oct 10 04:01:14 I admit I didn't even look into iMX6|8 lately Oct 10 04:01:32 forgot all detauls, too much way more urgent stuff on my plate Oct 10 04:02:01 what's wrong with my I key? Oct 10 04:02:45 They have a 100% FOSS GPU driver which no other modern smartphone I know of can claim to have. Oct 10 04:04:18 pabs3: anyway I', looking forward to them contacting me. Please feel free to further push this. Meanwhile I'll approach them in a humble way appropriate to my personal non-contributing interest in that project Oct 10 04:04:29 ok Oct 10 04:05:22 hmm, seems to me that FOSS GPU driver is REed and unclear if the iMX8 GPU will see support Oct 10 04:05:23 Heck, if they had a device with a physical keyboard as good as the N900's I would be very interested in their phone as an option for the future :) Oct 10 04:06:20 nah, not really. Too many clumsy basically pointless switches ;-) Oct 10 04:08:16 I have yet to find a mobile device with an input mechanism that I like any better than my N900 Oct 10 04:11:02 pabs3: I'm already in #purism since a 24h ;-) Oct 10 04:11:10 And yes I have tried all the fancy keyboards on the iPhone and Galaxy and etc Oct 10 12:44:01 https://www.chrisdcmoore.co.uk/post/oneplus-analytics/ Oct 10 13:38:44 https://krausefx.com/blog/ios-privacy-stealpassword-easily-get-the-users-apple-id-password-just-by-asking Oct 10 15:08:47 https://vizzzion.org/blog/2017/10/4-reasons-why-the-librem-5-got-funded/ Oct 11 02:56:59 http://laforge.gnumonks.org/blog/20171009-ten_years_openmoko_neo1973/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Oct 11 03:00:02 2017