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Nov 10 04:51:33 <pabs3> "An update on the Android problem" https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/738225/28d2098ce220b2ee/
Nov 10 11:49:12 <Not-489> [02vala-dbus-binding-tool] 07bharadwaj-raju starred 03vala-dbus-binding-tool - 13https://git.io/vF2oZ
Nov 10 15:53:41 <DocScrutinizer05> wow, and HAHA yeah!  >>Greg Kroah-Hartman started by saying that he has been working for some time with the system-on-chip (SoC) vendors to try to resolve this problem, which he blames primarily on Qualcomm for having decided not to work upstream. Qualcomm has since concluded that this decision was a mistake and is determined to fix it, but the process of doing so will take years. The other SoC vendors are also committed to 
Nov 10 15:53:42 <DocScrutinizer05> closing the gap between the kernels they provide and the mainline but, again, getting there will take a while.<<
Nov 10 17:05:32 <DocScrutinizer05> btw the approach of SoC manufs providing kernels instead of proper datasheets for community to develop true FOSS kernels based on that info, that's so radically wrong I fail to appreciate it in my rants
Nov 11 00:43:34 <pabs3> DocScrutinizer05: do you think 6 years is a fucking long time to get that done?
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