**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 25 02:59:57 2019 Feb 25 09:50:52 Would be cool with GSM. Without, I'll pass. Feb 25 09:51:57 "However, if you're like most of us, 80% or more of your time is spent near accessable WiFi." Feb 25 09:52:01 aha. where do you live, guys? Feb 25 09:52:25 despite, it's for those 20% that the lack of GSM is the showstopper. Feb 25 09:53:12 i like the form factor though. That said, with 320x240 I would have preferred an E-Ink display. Feb 25 09:55:37 I live at home and barrely leave it :) Feb 25 09:57:21 :D Feb 25 10:14:13 have you seen https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator ? Feb 25 10:14:50 has 4G Feb 25 10:33:04 ohmy Feb 25 10:33:43 WiFi SIP phone been a thing I almost got one for me, a around 10 years ago already Feb 25 10:34:21 meanwhile, could fly thanks to e.g. Vodafone homespot Feb 25 10:35:13 they force-feed a "public" hotspot down every customer's throat Feb 25 10:35:29 they don't even have cable modems without WLAN Feb 25 10:36:02 and you have to hop a few hoops to get rid of the hotspot function Feb 25 10:39:29 https://zuhauseplus.vodafone.de/internet-telefon/wlan-hotspots/ https://i.imgur.com/6StHW3W.png Feb 25 10:40:31 cosmo looks good Feb 25 10:40:35 first glance Feb 25 10:59:07 >>This campaign has built only a working demo of their product, not the final product.<< nevertheless I wonder how the heck they accomplish even that Feb 25 10:59:07 I mean, mass production is only the last 1/8 slice of the cake, getting a working demo prototype the other 7/8 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 25 10:59:24 2019 Feb 25 11:47:36 aaah that's how: (hint, it's about money in your piggy bank) >>Earlier this year, we successfully delivered our Gemini PDA product to more than 7000 Indiegogo backers<< Feb 25 12:14:43 ya, the cosmo thingy looks cool, reminds me of the Psion aesthethics and ergonomics. Still, these days I a) have no longer a need for a physical keyboard when on-the-way and b) due to problems with my wrists, I need an ergonomic keyboard, which means even when I'm working onsite I have my Microsoft Natural keyboard in the backpack. Feb 25 12:21:45 makes sense Feb 25 12:22:22 I for one still love a matrix of hardware buttons that's not interfering with the display Feb 25 12:25:10 this Cosmo is a monster anyway, thick like the N900 (1.6cm, N900 has a tiny bit more) but an incredible 17*8cm, with 320g you may kill people with it Feb 25 12:26:32 and obviously you won't putz that thing into a cardboard goggles for VR Feb 25 12:27:05 Mediatek P70 Feb 25 12:27:30 wonder what the heck "Dual-core mobile AI processors" might be Feb 25 12:38:27 dang, should have visited MWC 2019 Feb 25 14:48:57 mickeyl: one of the original Psion designers was involved in the Gemini design Feb 25 14:49:32 Gemini being the Cosmo's predecessor Feb 25 15:22:58 "It's designed by Martin Riddiford, the man who designed the original keyboard on the Psion Series 5." -- https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/reviews/143148-planet-gemini-pda-review Feb 25 15:23:44 rah: Oh, indeed? That would explain the family likeness. Cool. Feb 25 22:46:29 when it comes to wifi phones, there's also this thing https://necunos.com/community/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 26 02:59:57 2019