**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 18 02:59:59 2020 Jan 18 07:35:11 I wonder what's wrong about PinePhone. Jan 18 07:50:07 PaulFertser: in connection with? Jan 18 08:24:06 PaulFertser: the latest version has a number of errata https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone_v1.1_-_Braveheart Jan 18 08:46:33 sicelo: I mean if we are not all excited about it then it might mean it has some serious flaws freedom-wise. Jan 18 08:47:40 the "Modem has access to sensors on I2C1" in Braveheart is pretty bad, I think I would wait until after that gets fixed Jan 18 08:57:02 And if/after it is fixed? Jan 18 08:57:07 Is it the only problem really? Jan 18 08:57:44 that was the main errata that jumped out at me, I haven't really looked at the PinePhone yet Jan 18 08:59:17 I assume most folks here want something that has a hardware keyboard though Jan 18 08:59:23 I feel there must be some major gotcha... Jan 18 08:59:37 Still something without keyboard is probably better than nothing at all. Jan 18 09:00:22 * pabs3 looks at the specs https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ Jan 18 09:01:43 Mali has a libre driver now in mesa mainline, allwinner has community driven mainline efforts, the Quectel modem itself runs Linux Jan 18 09:02:37 everything looks reasonable from first glance Jan 18 09:04:46 it depends on the details of course Jan 18 09:05:08 hmm, the PDF schematics were rendered on Windows :) Jan 18 09:07:24 apparently the modem is connected over USB Jan 18 09:15:42 it would seem the pinephone is making a lot of effort to be a pro-freedom phone, and, at least to my knowledge, there aren't any intended gotchas. Jan 18 09:16:53 I'm perusing the forums, there is a bit of discussion about the kill switches being located inside the back cover https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=8464 Jan 18 09:17:11 Nobody is mentioning FSO :( Jan 18 09:18:24 no mention of what modem isolation is available https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=8072 Jan 18 09:19:41 If schematics are available that should be answering the question regarding isolation. Jan 18 09:19:41 hmm, seems the modem does GPS too Jan 18 09:20:12 they are, click the hardware revisions pages from https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone Jan 18 09:20:27 GNSS integrated in modem is bad indeed. Jan 18 09:20:49 the modem does all the radio stuff, inc wifi/bt Jan 18 09:21:34 Oh, and wifi too? Jan 18 09:21:39 yep Jan 18 09:21:42 Now that's really bad. Jan 18 09:21:44 http://files.pine64.org/doc/datasheet/project_anakin/LTE_module/Quectel_EG25-G_LTE_Specification_V1.1_Preliminary_20180522%20(002).pdf Jan 18 09:21:44 OK then Jan 18 09:21:50 :( Jan 18 09:22:41 pabs3: thank you for digging all that Jan 18 09:24:27 I don't understand circuit diagrams, I hope you can share what you learn from them :) Jan 18 09:24:29 i wonder the wifi is connected for the EG25. the pinephone uses Realtek RTL8723CS for wifi. Jan 18 09:25:05 hmm, it seems the wifi is not in the modem then? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 19 03:29:03 2020 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 19 03:34:18 2020 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 19 03:40:15 2020 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 20 01:49:56 2020 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 20 02:59:57 2020