**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 21 02:59:57 2007 Apr 21 04:58:41 i Apr 21 05:55:22 counter Apr 21 05:55:22 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 5 days 03:02:18 (12.127 +-12.1 days) (949,167) Apr 21 06:28:32 good morning Apr 21 06:54:48 Good morning, Hopscotch! Apr 21 07:00:11 counter? Apr 21 07:00:11 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; a week, 5 days 02:29:54 (12.104 +-12.1 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-01); 4 months, 3 weeks, 4 days (148.208 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (950,167) Apr 21 08:26:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[Talk:Music_Player]] Apr 21 08:45:11 openmoko: 03laforge * r1812 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/src/gsmd/usock.c: Apr 21 08:45:11 openmoko: The standard says that the parameter is not optional. Some modems Apr 21 08:45:11 openmoko: (correctly) return "ERROR" in response to "AT+COPS". (Philipp Zabel) Apr 21 09:04:19 hi Apr 21 09:04:53 are the projects on projects.openmoko.org operational ? i get a 404, root 'x' not found Apr 21 09:04:53 Ebli1: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) Apr 21 09:15:25 hi Apr 21 09:23:42 Ebli1: projects.openmoko.org seems to work just fine for me - which page are you trying to access? Apr 21 09:38:16 has there been any word on if the stability issues are hardware or software yet? Apr 21 09:46:30 abraxa_: dotnet project, view sources Apr 21 09:46:37 browse svn repository Apr 21 09:48:24 Ah, yeah, the projects SVN is broken Apr 21 10:02:24 http://www.pastebin.ca/451217 Apr 21 10:02:42 Psi__: last thing i heard here is that the hardware issues are resolved now. Apr 21 10:06:17 sean should write a weekly status blog Apr 21 10:17:37 hi Apr 21 10:21:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Talk:Music_Player]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware_-_Atmospheric]] [[Buying_Interest_List]] Apr 21 10:31:15 how likely is it that there will be WiFi in the mass market release Apr 21 10:35:37 From what I gather it'll happen Apr 21 10:35:44 heyho Apr 21 10:37:09 Hellos Apr 21 10:39:09 thats good Apr 21 10:39:26 i may not get it if it doesnt have wifi Apr 21 10:39:32 for me wifi is a MUST Apr 21 10:42:15 wehttamb: WiFi will come for sure, the only question is when Apr 21 10:43:03 do u think it will be here before the mass market release in september? Apr 21 10:43:03 wehttamb: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) Apr 21 10:45:03 k Apr 21 10:47:08 aloha ppl Apr 21 10:47:37 so what is the actual state ? ie when can i buy one ? ;) Apr 21 10:48:05 counter Apr 21 10:48:05 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 5 days 00:35:57 (12.025 +-12.0 days) (951,167) Apr 21 10:48:06 That's the $350 question kabturek =) Apr 21 10:49:06 hehe ^_^ Apr 21 10:49:13 once I saw a more detailed counter here (also having a countdown for massmarket) how to activate that one? Apr 21 10:49:24 counter? Apr 21 10:49:24 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; a week, 5 days 00:35:17 (12.025 +-12.0 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-01); 4 months, 3 weeks, 4 days (148.049 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (952,167) Apr 21 10:49:32 ok, thanks Apr 21 10:52:04 ohhhhh Apr 21 10:52:07 nice thing Apr 21 10:52:09 The hardware will update with a faster CPU and "something else everyone has been asking for". Apr 21 10:52:48 I'm just trying to work out whether I can justify spending the cash on the dev release and then paying for the upgrade. I know what I /want/ to do... Apr 21 10:54:16 hmm i will probably wait Apr 21 10:54:38 i waited sooo long ;) Apr 21 10:56:39 i will wait but it still seems like a long time Apr 21 10:57:10 yeah Apr 21 10:57:36 im wondering what the discount will be for ppl with phase 1 phone Apr 21 10:58:13 yea if is is a big discount i might get the phase 1 Apr 21 12:16:23 (script) planet: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Introducing patchwork to the openmoko mailinglists http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/04/01#20070401-patchwork Apr 21 12:16:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] Apr 21 12:57:30 same here, I can't bear my Windows phone any more... if the phase 1.5 is late and the discount correct, I think I won't wait Apr 21 13:00:11 i'm tempted to pick up a 15? sagem for the time being Apr 21 13:00:19 then again, my p900 still mostly works Apr 21 14:10:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[User_talk:Liane_shen]] [[Main_Page]] [[UPS_Worldwide_Express_Saver]] [[Shipping_Notes]] Apr 21 16:05:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wishlist:Unlikely]] Apr 21 16:38:54 IRC so idle today... must be the great weather ;) Apr 21 16:40:09 the weater is niiiiiiiice Apr 21 16:40:31 oh btw abraxa didnt even know you were german,guuuten ;) Apr 21 16:40:47 Gruetzi ;D Apr 21 16:41:08 What area are you from? Apr 21 16:41:13 hesssse Apr 21 16:41:41 As am I Apr 21 16:41:56 near darmstadt Apr 21 16:42:14 Friedberg here Apr 21 16:42:19 If that rings a bell ;) Apr 21 16:42:26 hah Apr 21 16:42:32 you dont work at segmüller do ya? Apr 21 16:42:37 Nope Apr 21 16:42:43 good Apr 21 16:43:37 I don't know of any Segmueller subsidary anywhere near here, though :o Apr 21 16:44:16 the fabric that produces their material is there Apr 21 16:44:51 Interesting, never knew that - either way we should do some German OpenMoko meeting someday Apr 21 16:45:01 hehe Apr 21 16:45:02 sure thing Apr 21 16:45:04 Looks like there are a metric ton of us involved in it ;) Apr 21 16:45:09 but gonna run to get the bus,bye Apr 21 16:45:15 Enjoy Apr 21 16:45:29 you too,get out more1 Apr 21 16:45:31 !# Apr 21 16:45:42 shitty keyboard tw Apr 21 16:45:44 *ftw Apr 21 16:47:00 counter Apr 21 16:47:01 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 4 days 21:36:29 (11.900 +-11.9 days) (953,167) Apr 21 18:34:46 counter Apr 21 18:34:46 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 4 days 20:42:36 (11.863 +-11.9 days) (954,167) Apr 21 19:16:02 shmounter Apr 21 20:16:16 morning Apr 21 20:18:31 Evening. Apr 21 20:22:16 SpeedEvil: any new info in the last 5 days? Apr 21 20:22:33 Not really. Apr 21 20:22:48 Other than at least one of the delays is screen availability problmes. Apr 21 20:24:16 hmm - hadn't seen that one Apr 21 20:24:19 To the extent that changing screens is not an utter impossibility. Apr 21 20:27:05 wow Apr 21 20:27:13 is that hardware/software problem solved? Apr 21 20:27:18 has shenki been around here? he has my P0 device while I'm on holidays. Apr 21 20:27:18 Apparently. Apr 21 20:27:35 The board allegedly works fine. Apr 21 20:27:47 Vegar: yes, the only problem is screens according to sean Apr 21 20:28:15 cool Apr 21 20:28:21 Not been talking in the last day or so. Apr 21 20:33:05 * rwhitby-treo goes back to the beach Apr 21 20:33:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgUZSwOWMEM&mode=related - the delay/lag seen when typing the phone number in that clip.. will the P1 devices be like that? Apr 21 20:37:56 have to look first Apr 21 20:38:56 that delay is caused by developers not knowing how to use EDS/dbus Apr 21 20:39:18 I bet ross could solve it in 5 minutes Apr 21 20:39:34 So.. get him to do it ;) Apr 21 20:41:40 koen: so it's not because of slow hardware? Apr 21 20:42:06 not really Apr 21 20:42:14 the calculator is fast Apr 21 20:42:22 which is the same principle Apr 21 20:42:41 ok Apr 21 20:42:44 meh Apr 21 20:42:53 my qemu panics Apr 21 21:48:23 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Translation]] Apr 21 22:37:38 Whoa, bcollins is around here. Apr 21 22:37:56 Oh, was. Apr 21 22:40:10 counter? Apr 21 22:40:10 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; a week, 4 days 18:39:54 (11.778 +-11.8 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-02); 4 months, 3 weeks, 3 days (147.555 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (955,167) Apr 21 22:58:47 haven't seen any announcement since "I promise you all will be the first (behind myself) to know when we isolate the problems, if we need another spin or not, and when we are ready to ship." Apr 21 23:33:42 counter Apr 21 23:33:43 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 4 days 18:13:08 (11.759 +-11.8 days) (956,167) Apr 22 01:04:10 sooo n8 Apr 22 01:10:49 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Apr 22 02:59:57 2007