**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 16 02:59:57 2007 May 16 03:00:19 * aloril assumed we would hear if there was problem ... (wrong assumption it seems) May 16 03:01:03 counter_msg http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) May 16 03:01:03 aloril changed counter prefix message to http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) May 16 05:45:21 hello guys May 16 06:24:54 anybody know who to talk to about purchasing? May 16 06:25:17 keep an eye on the wiki May 16 06:25:31 the first production run got pushed back a couple of weeks due to parts May 16 06:27:08 kelly_: Sign up to the announce mailinglist, or keep watching openmoko.com :) May 16 06:27:18 do you know any dates or rough estimates? is there any developer versions? May 16 06:27:35 faq May 16 06:27:35 See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ May 16 06:28:43 The really early devs have their phones already, and for free. Others wanting to start developing early will be able to buy one for 350 USD in maybe 2-3 weeks May 16 06:29:04 counter May 16 06:29:04 http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 4 days 05:30:53 (11.230 +-5.0 days) (1193;206) May 16 06:33:10 ok thanks guys. do you know if there will be bulk discounts? May 16 06:33:54 nope May 16 06:34:49 nope there wont be or nope u dont know? May 16 06:35:16 Haven't heard any and I doubt it May 16 06:35:32 They won't make that many phones in these first batches May 16 06:36:19 But Sean has said there's some kind of discount on buying the officially released phone if you already have bought a dev-phone May 16 06:40:08 good morning May 16 06:41:20 ok May 16 07:07:02 mornin May 16 07:07:20 morning May 16 07:24:34 is there a known fix for May 16 07:24:36 | arm-linux-gcc -g -Os -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -ffixed-r8 -msoft-float -D__KERNEL__ -DTEXT_BASE=0x33F80000 -I/home/tv/src/moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow-r7_a7676ea7732f3c596805079fed7e5c9fac652cfc_0_1949/git/include -fno-builtin -ffreestanding -nostdinc -isystem /home/tv/src/moko/build/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/4.1.1/include -pipe -DCONFIG_ARM -D__ARM__ -march=armv4 -mabi=apcs-gnu -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes May 16 07:24:37 | cmd_mfsl.c:32:21: error: asm/asm.h: No such file or directory May 16 07:24:44 bah my nick has been stolen again May 16 07:26:52 T1: Yes, you're on Gentoo arent't you? May 16 07:26:58 ubuntu May 16 07:27:02 Hmm.. May 16 07:27:10 let me hear it anyway ;) May 16 07:27:30 I had that missing asm.h file because of some lib path changes.. May 16 07:27:41 Trying to remember.. Wait a sec May 16 07:27:46 ah, that's better May 16 07:28:07 i wish freenode let me prevent others from using my registered nickname May 16 07:30:18 nothing on the mailing list :( May 16 07:30:18 Tv: Yes, at least until it expires May 16 07:30:31 I can't find it either.. May 16 07:30:54 and google isn't helping either May 16 07:31:11 it looks like a version mismatch between openmoko's uboot and the kernel May 16 07:31:36 Hmm.. Ahh.. I remembered wrong. Was asm/page.h that was missing for me May 16 07:33:57 * sparq is starting to feel that maybe his five character nick is a tad verbose May 16 07:34:36 sparq: it's still three plus tab ;) May 16 07:36:22 I know... but I feel all... *indented* talking with you folks May 16 07:38:00 sparq: Well, stefan_schmidt always "sticks out" ;) May 16 07:38:13 Or maybe it's "stand out" in proper english.. May 16 07:39:01 CM: could be either May 16 07:39:53 http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=559 May 16 07:39:59 that's what i'm seeing May 16 07:44:36 * sparq curses, cranks up another kernel recompile May 16 08:15:33 just buying some IT books on Amazon, any suggestion for worth buying book? May 16 08:25:16 it seems one can just remove that #include line May 16 08:26:01 good news, the official Neo1973 carry case will fit 2 neos :-) May 16 08:29:31 XorA: ? May 16 08:29:50 hrw: my bv3 and bv4 both fit in same case May 16 08:30:10 hrw: did you not get the Neoprene case? May 16 08:30:37 XorA: ah.. that one May 16 08:30:43 XorA: I keep debugboard in it May 16 08:31:05 hrw: Ive got a debug v1 at work so I dont have to carry them around May 16 08:41:29 XorA: I do not carry around debugboard. I do not like cases like that neoprene one May 16 09:33:50 openmoko: 03laforge * r1961 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-20070516-mfsl.patch: fix upstream compile error in cmd_mfsl.c (header file is gone) May 16 09:38:52 counter May 16 09:38:52 http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 4 days 02:21:05 (11.098 +-5.0 days) (1194;206) May 16 09:47:01 neverending counter :) May 16 09:47:24 openmoko: 03thomas * r1962 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-history.c: openmoko-dialer: check journal is available before accessing it May 16 09:52:31 ynezz: it just predicts when next announcement/status update is going to happen ;-) May 16 09:54:40 ok :) May 16 10:02:03 openmoko: 03thomas * r1963 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-history.c: openmoko-dialer: fix logic May 16 10:18:09 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Main_Page/ru]] May 16 10:29:57 openmoko: 03mickey * r1964 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/ (ChangeLog src/gsmd/gsmd.c): gsmd: power off the phone when gsmd starts up to have a consistent starting point May 16 10:40:22 oh wow running via qemu is sloooow May 16 10:40:48 hello, I attempted to compile openmoko on my pc, linux, I've compiled it, but I'm not sure how to run it, I try: arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -M neo -m 130 -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin -usb -show-cursor May 16 10:41:00 but that just leaves QEMU with a black screen, doing nothing May 16 10:41:14 admin_: perhaps try MokoMakefile? May 16 10:41:20 Tv: hmm, ok May 16 10:43:14 openmoko: 03thomas * r1965 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/ (ChangeLog libmokogsmd/moko-gsmd-connection.c): * libmokogsmd/moko-gsmd-connection.c: (moko_gsmd_connection_voice_dial): Fix logic May 16 10:43:27 qemu built from MokoMakefile seem to be broken May 16 10:43:28 * lrak knocks on current-devel May 16 10:43:50 exactly with this same symptoms, it starts in [Stopped] state May 16 10:44:04 but not using MokoMakefile it is working for me May 16 10:45:41 balrog-kun: works for me May 16 10:45:48 mokomakefile into qemu that is May 16 10:46:14 i had to fix two build problems in uboot and mtpaint May 16 10:46:27 Tv: is your qemu built from MokoMakefile too? May 16 10:46:30 yes May 16 10:46:38 started with make run-qemu-snapshot May 16 10:46:44 oh, hmm, then it's not a MokoMakefile problem May 16 10:46:51 as i was hoping :p May 16 10:47:12 hehe entering shell commands by clicking mouse on virtual kbd May 16 10:47:14 so indirect May 16 10:47:58 Tv: may i know when you built it? May 16 10:48:04 just now May 16 10:48:09 ah May 16 10:48:47 damn, it's also working for me on all computers that i've tried, but i hear that several people had problems running it May 16 10:54:04 the HXD8 - whatever it is - has a light sensor :-) May 16 10:54:23 gah this sucks May 16 10:54:33 qemu just open with black screen @ 99% cpu May 16 10:54:33 :P May 16 10:55:20 * balrog-kun needs a system on which this is happening May 16 10:57:43 * admin_ needs a system on which it works May 16 10:57:55 I did it a long time ago, couple months ago with the old way May 16 10:57:59 that worked May 16 10:58:42 apart from two build problems, i had no trouble using mokomakefile May 16 10:59:04 admin_: well, if you make a svn checkout from last week it will work May 16 10:59:11 well it was svn May 16 10:59:17 so I would think it was the latest May 16 10:59:28 admin_: that's why May 16 10:59:32 hmm May 16 10:59:42 how do I get it from lst week, what svn # would that be May 16 11:00:20 maybe MokoMakefile shouldn't always use HEAD May 16 11:00:34 maybe it should get some known-working versions May 16 11:00:54 o_o May 16 11:01:20 * admin_ goes to school May 16 11:04:41 gmm Fiwin makes WM8xxx chips too? o_O May 16 11:04:55 counter May 16 11:04:55 http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 4 days 00:55:02 (11.038 +-5.0 days) (1195;206) May 16 11:05:23 ah, it says driver, not chip :p May 16 11:11:09 Geez... Neo1973 is still not available... May 16 11:11:21 Mukunda: 2 weeks May 16 11:11:35 did you sincerely expect anything today? ;) May 16 11:11:35 XorA: they're fairly certain now? May 16 11:11:50 I was expecting something 5-6 days ago. :-) May 16 11:12:02 Mukunda: they start making them on May 24th or there abouts May 16 11:12:17 Mukunda: there were some last minute technical hitches there is an email May 16 11:12:29 Ah alright. :-) May 16 11:12:38 I dare not sign up to another mailing list... May 16 11:12:47 The time it takes reading emails already... May 16 11:13:15 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-May/005241.html May 16 11:13:41 Danke. May 16 11:14:03 Any news on how much the discount on P1+ will be for P1 purchasers? May 16 11:15:19 I guess that it's very unlikely there will be a nice 0 dead pixel policy right? May 16 11:16:48 Erm sorry, the discount is for p1 purchasers getting p2 phones right? May 16 11:17:10 Mukunda: I haven't head of anyone with a dead pixel yet, maybe they're just too small to identify :) May 16 11:18:08 That'd be true, that screen is awesome. May 16 11:19:47 * XorA hasnt seen any dead pixels in any of his 3 devices May 16 11:20:34 and the screen is really colourful, not washed put like some handhelds May 16 11:20:42 That's neat... Well hmm looking forward to release, was just looking at an ipaq, but it was the same price as the neo with only a crappy qvga screen... Hopefully it's going to be available soon. May 16 11:21:18 Ermm wow... Some talk about graphics acceleration in some of the emails... That's pretty amazing, if unneeded. May 16 11:21:37 Mukunda: its needed :-D May 16 11:21:41 Or would that be just 2D for video? May 16 11:21:57 Mukunda: yeah, bitblt and friends May 16 11:22:07 Ahh okay.. :-) May 16 11:31:00 hi May 16 11:42:11 IIRC the current neo display is physically unable to refresh fast enough for video May 16 11:42:20 but that's just rumourmongering May 16 11:42:41 s/display/framebuffer/ May 16 11:42:48 well yeah May 16 11:43:02 the essential point being "you can't fix that in software" May 16 11:43:11 wish is a damn shame if true.....such a lovely dispo May 16 11:43:19 display May 16 11:43:35 a later rev might have an even better one ;) May 16 11:43:48 personally, i don't need video May 16 11:43:54 just don't do fullscreen updates May 16 11:44:06 or only transfer 12bits per pixel May 16 11:45:37 12 bits aka 4096 colors? May 16 11:45:45 that's plenty May 16 11:46:37 so you can fix it in software ;) May 16 11:47:01 still a shame May 16 12:03:32 Hello, everyone. May 16 12:03:35 Is ph5 nearby? May 16 12:03:48 pavelm: very May 16 12:04:25 ph5: Thanks for hammerhead logs. Is it okay to link to http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp from the wiki? May 16 12:04:27 Tv: It can do video May 16 12:04:39 SpeedEvil: the 12-bit trick? May 16 12:04:47 The issue is that the framerate isn't tehre on CPU decoded video at 640x480 May 16 12:04:56 However, the LCD can do a half resolution mode May 16 12:05:00 and the CPU can do that May 16 12:05:35 No, the LCD has a special bus to the CPU, and always refreshes at 60Hz May 16 12:05:56 pavelm: But SpeedEvil already added a link to the logs. May 16 12:06:33 Oops. Just noticed it's just text, not actually a link. May 16 12:06:37 I forgot the [] May 16 12:07:41 ph5: Aha, I did not notice that. May 16 12:08:23 ph5: Next question: could you capture the logs in the "original" format (same as http://www.maintech.de/download/hammerhead-strace.log) so that same scripts can be used for decoding? May 16 12:10:25 pavelm: if somebody tells me how to do it, sure. i used "strace -e open,read,write -e read=3 -e write=3" May 16 12:10:43 s/-e open/-e trace=open/ May 16 12:10:43 pH5 meant: pavelm: if somebody tells me how to do it, sure. i used "strace -e trace=open,read,write -e read=3 -e write=3" May 16 12:11:05 ph5; will do some experiments :-) May 16 12:11:32 * ar1 hello to all people May 16 12:11:43 /nic arw_hal9000 May 16 12:12:02 :) May 16 12:12:04 apt: capturing all the strace is nice. May 16 12:12:10 SpeedEvil: okay May 16 12:12:13 As you get for example gettimebyday) May 16 12:12:17 * xkr47 hello to ar1 May 16 12:12:30 hello May 16 12:12:30 and -s9999 so it doesn't crop the ends of stuff May 16 12:12:54 apt: capturing all the strace? May 16 12:12:56 well, capturing all the strace is nice. May 16 12:13:02 Plus, it gets the writes to the NMEA file May 16 12:13:39 SpeedEvil: what would you need the gettimeofday/select calls for? May 16 12:13:48 -x -s9999 seems like a very good idea though May 16 12:13:50 To tell you the time May 16 12:14:00 I'd rather use -tt for that May 16 12:14:04 Relative time between calls May 16 12:14:09 oh - true May 16 12:14:39 Though you might want to know when the gll binary cares about time May 16 12:15:00 grep trivially removes all but reads if you don't need it. May 16 12:15:23 ph5: -x -s9999 looks close May 16 12:15:40 ph5: plus something to prepend pid, AFAICT, but I'm not sure if we want that. May 16 12:15:47 -xx may be easier to machine part May 16 12:15:50 parse May 16 12:16:08 pavelm: -f ? May 16 12:16:45 speed: Just do -x. It is same as original log, and all messages between gps and gll are binary, anyway. May 16 12:17:04 SpeedEvil: you are a native english speaker, right? May 16 12:17:09 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Current_events]] May 16 12:17:18 Scottish, but yes May 16 12:17:28 ph5: did you succeed in making your software talk to GPS? May 16 12:17:32 could you fix up the hammerhead wiki wrt send/sent? May 16 12:17:39 so you are one of few here probably May 16 12:17:42 ok, so "-tt -x -s9999" it is. I'll drop the -e params May 16 12:18:22 pavelm: not with Bv3. May 16 12:18:22 koen: I'll do it tonight - I need to work on getting my PCB autorouted, and rather than actually doing it manually, I'm hacking on the autorouter :) May 16 12:19:04 SpeedEvil: which router? May 16 12:19:18 i have to decide which one to learn... May 16 12:20:19 Magon 'pcb' May 16 12:20:26 on sourceforge May 16 12:20:37 ok May 16 12:20:56 I'm trying to add the ability to specify in the netlist 'foo-power' as a name, and it'll use the power style for net foo May 16 12:21:08 Does anyone know a good open CAD/PCB suite? May 16 12:21:46 alphaone: same problem here..looking for one May 16 12:21:51 I diddn't find 'pcb' to be too bad - I entered a complete 300 hole eurocard in about a day, and got a board which would have worked May 16 12:22:06 It's just I'm trying for an optimal board. May 16 12:22:46 SpeedEvil: I'm thinking of schematics editor/board layouter and optionally autorouter. May 16 12:23:02 This is just a PCB editor which takes netlists in May 16 12:23:03 is it part of gEDA? May 16 12:23:05 No May 16 12:26:48 SpeedEvil: in what you draw layout? May 16 12:27:41 ph5: So it talks to Bv4? Congratulations :-) May 16 12:28:33 Magon: I was taking a printed schematic, and going from that through vi to a netlist May 16 12:28:58 pavelm: yes, it does. actually I use it to properly reset the gps when gllin fails to do that. May 16 12:29:08 SpeedEvil: so you dont draw layout but just make netlist? May 16 12:29:25 Yes. May 16 12:29:29 evil.... May 16 12:29:38 You can import netlist from schematic drawing program of course May 16 12:30:07 i like to draw schematic and than export it to layout editor May 16 12:37:10 Do I need some special commandline to gcc to produce compatible binaries? May 16 12:37:19 ...I thought I had it working before... May 16 12:38:17 ...yes, -static is neeeded. May 16 12:50:35 ph5: Had you had any luck with power_sequence file? May 16 12:52:05 ph5: I guess that output of hhtest (in case it works) is _not_ single zero? May 16 12:52:30 pavelm: no. I guess we'll have to wait and see what they ship with the final P1 phones. May 16 12:52:42 the output of hhtest is "(10) fe 00 fd c0 00 f2 71 09 10 fc" May 16 12:52:57 a packet with one word that is supposed to be a version May 16 12:53:09 0xf2710910 May 16 12:55:14 in the other serial tests (c???.txt) the first communication with the gps is the same read command with a longer packet length and the gps returns some more data after the first word May 16 12:55:22 ph5: I should arrive tommorow or day after that... so I'm looking forward. May 16 12:55:58 pavelm: great May 16 12:57:09 (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger Re: Few comments after reading Wiki May 16 13:09:03 openmoko: 03thomas * r1966 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) May 16 13:09:03 openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.c: May 16 13:09:03 openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-callbacks-connection.c: May 16 13:09:03 openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.h: May 16 13:09:03 openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-callbacks-connection.h: May 16 13:09:05 openmoko: Implement incoming window responses and make use clip if available. May 16 13:09:09 openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-main.c: Move gtk initialisation to after single May 16 13:13:46 counter May 16 13:13:46 http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 3 days 22:46:11 (10.949 +-5.0 days) (1196;206) May 16 13:27:33 openmoko: 03thomas * r1967 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/artwork/themes/openmoko-standard/gtk-2.0/mokoicons: * remove missing images from theme May 16 13:29:08 has anybody tried to run maemo-mapper-nohildon on the neo? May 16 13:42:20 openmoko: 03thomas * r1968 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.c: openmoko-dialer: make sure incoming window is initialised May 16 13:51:48 Hi, It would be nice if someone can get a more precise date for the orders (the topic). May 16 13:53:19 yes, yes it would May 16 13:54:38 It looks like it's going to be a couple of weeks. May 16 13:55:23 oops, I was just correcting a typo, didn't mean to overrule you May 16 13:55:36 late may works fine too. May 16 13:55:42 It's prolly not going to be mid May 16 13:55:54 yeah May 16 13:56:20 maybe its now 2007-05-20 run? (or maybe some other day, but that day still almost fits with about 2 weeks ;-) May 16 13:56:43 if 2 weeks is counted from 2007-05-10 that is May 16 14:00:26 * aloril is happy to see status update May 16 14:08:26 hrmph. dialer crashes in latest image at the moment i click 'dial' May 16 14:09:43 counter? May 16 14:09:43 "/msg aloril counter?" for actual long message, giving short version here: http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 3 days 21:50:14 (10.910 +-5.0 days) (1197;206) May 16 14:11:42 hi all May 16 14:14:11 just a question, but will the mass production also be delayed? May 16 14:14:37 * fix__ just wondering May 16 14:15:02 nobody knows May 16 14:15:20 okay May 16 14:15:34 can anyone tell me where to find artwork and logos on openmoko and what the license on the artwork is May 16 14:16:02 in svn and see COPYING May 16 14:17:10 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[Hammerhead_protocol]] May 16 14:18:14 ok the may 14 image does not have a matching uImage kernel May 16 14:18:24 no modules loaded May 16 14:18:52 who is in charge of the images? May 16 14:19:58 may 14 rootfs needs kernel 2.6.21.1-moko8 May 16 14:20:08 why regress from moko10? May 16 14:21:14 if uboot read the kernel from inside the rootfs we wouldn't keep getting this mismatch May 16 14:21:47 preaching to the choir May 16 14:21:52 yeah, I wish it would do that. May 16 14:21:57 :) May 16 14:25:35 i started building my own image from mokomakefile but apparently that takes a couple of days May 16 14:33:20 in the meantime, whoever generates images created a mismatched kernel/root on may 14 May 16 14:33:27 my phone shipped with a mismatched kernel May 16 14:33:55 it's a recurring problem May 16 14:34:50 thats what we're here for as P1 recipients May 16 14:36:53 to help establish release protocols? May 16 14:40:39 so reading on the wiki it sounds like these images could be made by a volunteer who logs in to the build server? May 16 14:51:39 this file is empty trunk$ more ./src/target/OM-2007/artwork/icons/COPYING May 16 14:52:03 does anyone know what the rights on the artwork are? and where to find openmoko (scalable) logo? May 16 14:55:35 tag May 16 14:56:50 guten May 16 14:59:06 Pander_: I don't May 16 14:59:37 this is the closed as a logo as i can find: svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/examples/openmoko-panel-demo/data/icon.png any other suggestions? May 16 15:01:30 i'm having a bit of trouble with mokomakefile. i started off a make openmoko-devel-image, stopped it last night and started it again this morning and now i get http://www.pastebin.ca/491234 May 16 15:02:15 alp: the Autobuilder has the same issue May 16 15:02:28 alp: I don't know of any solution yet May 16 15:02:42 !ombug 559 May 16 15:02:44 !ombug 561 May 16 15:02:46 * * Bug 559, Status: NEW, Created: Unknown May 16 15:02:46 * * autobuild-reports(AT)openmoko.org: uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow-r7_a7676ea7732f3c596805079fed7e5c9fac652cfc_0_1949-do_compile May 16 15:02:47 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=559 May 16 15:02:49 * * Bug 561, Status: NEW, Created: Unknown May 16 15:02:51 * * autobuild-reports(AT)openmoko.org: uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow-r7_a7676ea7732f3c596805079fed7e5c9fac652cfc_0_1961-do_compile May 16 15:02:53 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=561 May 16 15:03:20 zecke: ah, as long as it's not an issue with pausing the build, it's all good :-) May 16 15:04:19 alp: normally it is safe to pause/interrupt builds May 16 15:14:38 openmoko: 03thomas * r1969 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.c: openmoko-dialer: fix window_incoming_init () May 16 15:44:58 openmoko: 03laforge * r1970 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/ (hxd8-tsl256x.patch series): * Add new TSL256x ambient light sensor driver May 16 15:51:05 openmoko: 03thomas * r1971 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (dialer-window-incoming.c dialer-window-talking.c): openmoko-dialer: make sure window-talking is initialised, and hangup when it is hidden May 16 15:52:38 Speed: triaxial magnetometer May 16 15:52:43 ??? May 16 15:52:55 woot. more commits++ May 16 15:56:33 openmoko: 03thomas * r1972 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.c: openmoko-dialer: add missing parameter, fix comiler warnings May 16 15:58:28 especially when its the dialer app. May 16 15:58:40 openmoko: 03thomas * r1973 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-talking.c: openmoko-dialer: fix compiler warnings May 16 16:00:06 openmoko: 03laforge * r1974 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/hxd8-core.patch: add nand-1 and nand-2 for 2nd and 3rd nand chip in hxd8 May 16 16:03:59 gtg, cu May 16 16:18:09 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] May 16 16:19:47 what are the possibles cell phones to work with openmoko plataform ? Only Neo 1973 ? May 16 16:19:48 torrado: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) May 16 16:22:09 (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger Re: Few comments after reading Wiki May 16 16:22:36 at this point of time yes. people are working on HTC and EZX ports May 16 16:29:13 counter May 16 16:29:13 http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 3 days 19:30:44 (10.813 +-5.0 days) (1198;206) May 16 17:26:09 (script) openmoko-community: Sean Moss-Pultz Re: Durability of the Neo1973? May 16 17:32:09 (script) openmoko-community: Sean Moss-Pultz Re: Durability of the Neo1973? and 1 other mails May 16 17:39:56 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel May 16 17:40:04 is that page really correct that the patches are against 2.6.20? May 16 17:40:17 * Kero subscribes to he community mailing list. announce is too slow :) May 16 17:40:33 * LuitvD just did the same May 16 17:45:16 can I skip uboot in mokomakefile somehow? May 16 18:08:29 coredumpedOpenMoko: http://r0n.kuzew.net:81/coredumpOpenMoko.png This is rev 1950, 1974 didn't work for me, it just 'stood' there. which rev should I use? May 16 18:11:13 hi, I'm under qemu, I'm at the boot screen how to boot? which key I have to press? thanks May 16 18:11:38 space May 16 18:11:44 maybe May 16 18:11:46 ok May 16 18:11:59 it works, before it not worked May 16 18:12:03 ok May 16 18:12:07 kpanic space or return.. its swapped to how its documented afaik May 16 18:13:23 so what rev should I use May 16 18:13:31 becuase 1974 doesn't wanna work May 16 18:13:37 admin_: try others May 16 18:13:46 yeah..there's only 1973 others ;P May 16 18:14:37 admin_ i tried 2 days ago and there it was fine... i'll try again tomorrow if i find the time.. lots of other work to do here in taipeh ;) May 16 18:15:22 k May 16 18:17:39 'perhaps late May', haha :P May 16 18:18:09 (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Flight_Mode]] [[Look_%26_Feel]] [[User:Pander]] May 16 18:19:59 seems now this is a problem: openmoko/flash.sh: line 75: /home/ronnie/qemu-neo1973/arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm: No such file or directory May 16 18:25:31 admin_ i really have to sleep right now.. bit i will look at it in the morning. its 2:23 am here atm and the traffic here in taiwan seems to follow a gaussian curve, starting at 8am ;) just try to reach me here in about 8hours or so May 16 18:26:20 heh, thanks roh , I shall May 16 19:02:09 (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger Re: Few comments after reading Wiki May 16 19:27:28 roh: it was swapped at some point but should be okay now May 16 19:27:51 unless the GPIOs were exchanged in GTA01Bv4 May 16 19:31:07 admin_: rev 1947 was the last one before the huge update May 16 19:31:19 thanks balrog-kun May 16 19:31:31 I'm trying the MokoMakefile now May 16 19:32:01 huge update? May 16 19:32:26 from 0.8.2 to 0.9.0 May 16 19:32:38 Ahh. May 16 19:32:53 admin_: i tried building current SVN on yet another random computer today and saw no problems May 16 19:33:14 except that it was awfully slow (so slow that i couldn't believe) May 16 19:33:24 but it turned out my home directory on that computer was on NFS May 16 19:33:35 when i moved to /tmp everything was normal again May 16 19:34:27 openmoko: 03stefan * r1975 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/ (11 files in 3 dirs): o Prepare infrastructure for new startup-notification matchbox-panel-2 applet. May 16 19:35:50 ah May 16 19:38:09 (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger Re: Few comments after reading Wiki May 16 19:43:27 openmoko: 03stefan * r1976 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/data/ (9 files): o Applet images and Makefile May 16 19:45:32 openmoko: 03andrew * r1977 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/ (openmoko/flash.sh vl.c): Make flash.sh less timing dependent by using correct qemu shutdown. Fix usb-gadget initialisation with no '-usb'. May 16 19:48:45 openmoko: 03stefan * r1978 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/src/ (Makefile.am openmoko-panel-startup.c): May 16 19:48:45 openmoko: Not yet, but hopefully soon, upstream version from startup-notification applet. May 16 19:48:45 openmoko: NOTE: This version is only checked in to have the full changes in svn history. May 16 19:48:56 openmoko: 03andrew * r1979 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/ (25 files in 7 dirs): Pull changes from cvs.savannah.nongnu.org. May 16 19:51:00 <3 git May 16 19:51:46 indeed. and cogito :) May 16 19:52:10 dammit May 16 19:52:18 it just keeps on coredumping, I tried rev 1947 May 16 19:52:43 admin_: with the "executing at 0x38000000" message? May 16 19:52:51 yeah May 16 19:53:00 admin_: it means roughly that u-boot didn't get loaded May 16 19:53:14 How would I be able to fix that balrog-kun ? May 16 19:53:16 either the file was empty or something wrong with the file May 16 19:53:50 you should have u-boot.bin in the source directory of about 200 kB May 16 19:53:53 openmoko: 03stefan * r1980 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/src/Makefile.am: The applet needs libstartup-notification May 16 19:54:08 alternatively a symlink to some 200 kB file in openmoko. May 16 19:54:11 openmoko/ May 16 19:55:46 hmm, it's in the same dir May 16 19:56:56 and it's named exactly 'u-boot.bin'? May 16 19:57:09 well, it's named u-boot.bin, but it's a link to a folder of stuff May 16 19:57:35 to a folder (directory) or a file? May 16 19:57:39 it's supposed to be linked to a file May 16 19:57:40 folder May 16 19:57:47 want me to take a screenshot? May 16 19:58:02 no, make it point to the right u-boot image May 16 19:58:17 what's the uboot image? openmoko-kernel.bin May 16 19:58:18 ? May 16 19:58:28 rm -rf u-boot.bin; ln -s openmoko/u-b* ./u-boot.bin May 16 19:58:32