**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 23 02:59:56 2007
Dec 23 03:22:22 <borg_> "No filesystem could mount root, tried: ext3 cramfs romfs"
Dec 23 04:01:41 <borg_> yeeha, boot from sdhc works :)
Dec 23 07:39:52 <Xinill> Hi
Dec 23 07:40:07 <Xinill> Anyone know when consumer version of Neo will be available?
Dec 23 07:40:18 <Xinill> Oh
Dec 23 07:40:21 <Xinill> Sorry
Dec 23 07:40:33 <Xinill> It's in topic :P
Dec 23 07:40:58 <Xinill> So no "around end of the year", heh
Dec 23 08:03:20 <SpeedEvil> that's probably not going to be fully consumer ready
Dec 23 08:03:32 <SpeedEvil> the software will be in a basic state
Dec 23 08:03:47 <SpeedEvil> with the phone and core PIM applications working - probably
Dec 23 08:04:27 <SpeedEvil> but the software  will continue to evolve in the following months.
Dec 23 08:52:37 <Hopscotch> good morning
Dec 23 09:00:46 <kinneh> hi
Dec 23 09:10:29 <NineX> ave
Dec 23 09:21:54 <hachi> *grumble* glln drivers aren't downloading
Dec 23 09:21:59 <hachi> gllin
Dec 23 09:27:40 <hachi> does openmoko have the unionfs or whatever?
Dec 23 09:29:27 <hachi> mini_fo I guess it's called
Dec 23 10:10:17 <olalin> I don't understand how to start...
Dec 23 10:14:23 <mbuf> olalin, the coffee machine?
Dec 23 10:19:34 <SpeedEvil> ipkg install java
Dec 23 10:40:17 * Kero notices speex 1.2beta can be compiled without floating point (news 2 weeks old or so), is this useful for openmoko?
Dec 23 10:40:40 <SpeedEvil> proba bly
Dec 23 10:45:12 <Kero> speex is already in OE (but that does not mean it was used by OM)
Dec 23 10:54:12 <PBeck> hi
Dec 23 13:01:42 <NineX> anyone know how to aviod reflashing kernel to nand due ipkg upgrade? my system is placed in SD card. 
Dec 23 15:27:03 <NineX> someone can me remember who created .bb file for wsnoth ? there is a bug in this file (wrong iclusion from /usr/include)
Dec 23 16:14:27 <starox_> de retour demain
Dec 23 18:01:43 <xcasex> so qiuck run through, no gps output without gllin right?
Dec 23 18:02:49 <SpeedEvil> xcasex: sharply limited without.
Dec 23 18:03:17 <SpeedEvil> As in you can't actually get a position without.
Dec 23 18:07:00 <xcasex> righ
Dec 23 18:07:01 <xcasex> t
Dec 23 18:07:11 <xcasex> SpeedEvil: tried using gypsy instead of gpsd?
Dec 23 18:07:22 <SpeedEvil> no.
Dec 23 18:07:41 <SpeedEvil> that's not interesting to me - the interesting bit would be the GPS driver
Dec 23 18:08:16 <SpeedEvil> which I can't see the point in spending much time on - due to the limited 'market'.
Dec 23 18:08:41 <xcasex> true
Dec 23 18:27:16 <psycholic> hows the phone
Dec 23 18:27:36 <psycholic> dail and sms?
Dec 23 18:27:53 * SpeedEvil contemplates a phone with working dali.
Dec 23 18:27:57 <SpeedEvil> SMS no
Dec 23 18:27:59 <SpeedEvil> dial mostly.
Dec 23 18:28:15 <psycholic> lol sorry
Dec 23 18:28:40 <psycholic> just checkin want the phone but i don't know how to program
Dec 23 18:28:43 <moko-bunny> SMS was "working" for me a while back...but had some kinks
Dec 23 18:28:49 <SpeedEvil> It was?
Dec 23 18:29:08 <SpeedEvil> I can't work out how to get the messages app to show me messages - I know there's one on my 
Dec 23 18:29:09 <SpeedEvil> SIM
Dec 23 18:29:54 <moko-bunny> yeah, I managed to send and receive several messages, but it seemed like I had to hit buttons in the right order and have the contact information input into the contacts thingy
Dec 23 18:29:54 <SpeedEvil> or for that matter, how to compose one
Dec 23 18:31:00 <moko-bunny> I made a gmail to blog post the other day from work with gprs....was going to do so from the ski hill yesterday, but coverage was only 850 :(
Dec 23 18:33:12 <moko-bunny> the SMS app and address book seemed very finicky (sp?) on my build (haven't built in a week or so, though)
Dec 23 18:54:23 <moko-bunny> SpeedEvil: well, a build that I had about 2 weeks ago did work with SMS, but my week old build doesn't anymore.
Dec 23 19:03:32 <CIA-15> openmoko: 03laforge * r3727 10/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.24.x/patches/gta01-no_nand_partitions.patch: This patch got Acked-by: Ben Dooks
Dec 23 19:05:11 <CIA-15> openmoko: 03laforge * r3728 10/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.24.x/patches/s3c2410_fb-line_length.patch: this patch got acked-by Ben Dooks
Dec 23 19:06:16 <NineX> in my build sms worked for a while
Dec 23 19:18:26 <moko-bunny> wasn't there some change we had to do for building recently....mine grabs all the latest files, but only builds the final image.
Dec 23 19:28:33 <SpeedEvil> what else do you expect it to do?
Dec 23 19:29:06 <SpeedEvil> make openmoko-devel-image should basically fetch the 'new' stuff, compile it, and install it in an image
Dec 23 19:29:48 <hrw> morning
Dec 23 19:30:05 <hrw> SpeedEvil: you have eds-dbus r659 or newer?
Dec 23 19:30:08 <CoreDump> hey hrw 
Dec 23 19:30:55 <hrw> CoreDump: thx for updater fixing
Dec 23 19:31:05 <CoreDump> np
Dec 23 19:31:40 <hrw> CoreDump: soon there will be time to finally add some branding into it
Dec 23 19:34:14 <CoreDump> hrw: I just hope that was the last device-specific problem ;)
Dec 23 19:34:35 <hrw> CoreDump: so do I
Dec 23 19:44:35 <hachi> /media/card seems to contain a filesystem already :\
Dec 23 19:48:08 <SpeedEvil> hrw: what command on the phoone will tell me?
Dec 23 19:48:27 <hrw> ipkg info eds-dbus
Dec 23 19:48:35 <hrw> hachi: lucky you
Dec 23 19:48:58 <SpeedEvil> ...
Dec 23 19:48:59 <hrw> I have to find time and debug s3mci on neo to get my card recognised
Dec 23 19:49:12 <SpeedEvil> Package: eds-dbus
Dec 23 19:49:12 <SpeedEvil> Version: 1.4.0+svnr628-r6
Dec 23 19:49:12 <SpeedEvil> Status: unknown ok not-installed
Dec 23 19:49:20 <hrw> OLD
Dec 23 19:49:23 <hachi> does moko have the mini fo stuff?
Dec 23 19:49:36 <hrw> SpeedEvil: r658 is required to get messages working
Dec 23 19:49:39 <SpeedEvil> oh - right
Dec 23 19:49:40 <SpeedEvil> Package: eds-dbus
Dec 23 19:49:40 <SpeedEvil> Version: 1.4.0+svnr628-r7
Dec 23 19:49:40 <SpeedEvil> Status: install ok installed
Dec 23 19:50:02 <hrw> 6*5*8 not 6*2*8 ;D
Dec 23 19:55:41 <SpeedEvil> Version: 1.4.0+svnr659-r7
Dec 23 19:55:51 <SpeedEvil> when it's ipkg upgrade'd
Dec 23 19:56:07 <NineX>  1.4.0+svnr659-r7
Dec 23 19:56:31 <NineX> with ^^ this version sms are not working for me
Dec 23 21:25:23 <moko-bunny> what's the difference between the john_lee and khem branches in monotone db?
Dec 23 21:34:42 <zash> could one cram openmoko into the lg viewty?
Dec 23 21:47:52 <Linux_Galore> zash: cant see why not
Dec 23 21:48:55 <Linux_Galore> I think a good new distro of Linux would be one for PMP's that run WindowsCE, good example is the Cowon Q5W
Dec 23 21:49:04 <Linux_Galore> runs*
Dec 23 21:50:39 <xcasex> waaait.
Dec 23 21:50:41 <xcasex> hold up.
Dec 23 21:50:58 <xcasex> the viewty is linux capable? how do we know this?
Dec 23 21:55:19 <zash> xcasex: afaik the viewty and the prada runs a ui made in flash
Dec 23 21:57:26 <xcasex> zash: ahem.
Dec 23 21:57:54 <xcasex> zash: are you trying to tell me that the os it uses, is stored on a flash chip? :)
Dec 23 22:04:33 <yoyo> hi 
Dec 23 22:04:46 <yoyo> X-mass
Dec 23 22:05:29 <zash> xcasex: flash as in adobe flash
Dec 23 22:05:46 <xcasex> aha. and that relates to using openmoko on it.. how?
Dec 23 22:06:12 <zash> iduno
Dec 23 22:06:24 <xcasex> aha.
Dec 23 22:07:00 <zash> whats under the flash? winmo?
Dec 23 22:07:03 <Linux_Galore> xcasex: if its hardware and you know the specs you can port the code
Dec 23 22:07:29 <xcasex> Linux_Galore: no shit sherlock :)
Dec 23 22:07:40 <xcasex> zash: usually a proprietary os of some making.
Dec 23 22:08:02 <xcasex> and if they're pushing 120fps on the camera. its not wm5/6
Dec 23 22:13:56 * SpeedEvil ponders UML - on flash
Dec 23 22:15:55 <zash> hardware accelerated svg would be teh cool
Dec 23 22:16:04 <wibbit> Hello every one
Dec 23 22:24:57 <ahven> anyone near the keyboard atm?
Dec 23 22:25:25 <ahven> is the GSM firmware update required only to the 850MHz band?
Dec 23 22:26:12 <mjr> it doesn't have anything to do with that
Dec 23 22:26:28 <mjr> the upgrade is for getting some SIMs working that didn't
Dec 23 22:27:02 <mjr> (though to be sure, the 850MHz thing probably requires a firmware change _also_, in addition to other bits of hardware changes)
Dec 23 22:27:48 <ahven> ok, does that SIM problem show itself as the SIM not working at all or not working some of the times?
Dec 23 22:31:20 <mjr> AFAIK not working at all
Dec 23 22:32:33 <ahven> ok, that does not include me then :)
Dec 23 23:06:34 <xcasex> what was the dang gllint url again :(
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