**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 10 02:59:57 2008 Feb 10 03:37:40 2/10 Bluetooth *STILL* broken Feb 10 03:39:20 pardon me, 2/10 BT up via the BT Icon Feb 10 03:42:26 KrisAbsinthe: how the BT signal strength? Feb 10 03:43:08 Its good, GTA02's is broken Feb 10 03:43:28 oh, it's a hw problem then? Feb 10 03:43:58 probably . I dont think the 02 will be out next month Feb 10 03:44:09 word Feb 10 05:54:45 linux vs mac who wins? Feb 10 05:58:57 ninjas Feb 10 06:00:53 pirAAAATTTEEESSSSS! Feb 10 06:05:09 kde, lol Feb 10 06:34:35 openmoko: 03werner * r4032 10/trunk/src/host/devirginator/ (blink.pl mknor): Feb 10 06:34:35 openmoko: devirginator/blink.pl: linker for binary data of unknown structure Feb 10 06:34:35 openmoko: devirginator/mknor: example script that composes a GTA02 NOR image Feb 10 06:54:17 openmoko: 03werner * r4033 10/developers/werner/scr2ppm.pl: scr2ppm.pl: converts from a screen dump to a PPM file Feb 10 07:51:28 openmoko: 03werner * r4034 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (series uboot-s3c2410-nand.patch): (log message trimmed) Feb 10 07:51:28 openmoko: Reverted the removal of the __board_nand_init change in Feb 10 07:51:28 openmoko: uboot-s3c2410-nand.patch Feb 10 07:51:28 openmoko: series: Feb 10 07:51:28 openmoko: - re-added uboot-s3c2410-nand.patch Feb 10 07:51:30 openmoko: uboot-s3c2410-nand.patch: Feb 10 07:51:32 openmoko: - include/s3c24x0.h, cpu/arm920t/s3c24x0/nand.c: make board_nand_init a weak Feb 10 07:57:52 openmoko: 03werner * r4035 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (env-override.patch series uboot-gta02.patch): (log message trimmed) Feb 10 07:57:52 openmoko: This patch introduces a new variable at a well-known address that can be Feb 10 07:57:52 openmoko: overwritten from the outsite to change the startup behaviour of u-boot. This Feb 10 07:57:52 openmoko: variable is at offset 0x40 (if preboot-override is not enabled) or 0x44 (if Feb 10 07:57:54 openmoko: it is), and it points to an alternate data block to be used as the default Feb 10 07:57:56 openmoko: environment. Feb 10 07:57:57 openmoko: This makes not-default-env.patch obsolete, because we just use this override Feb 10 07:58:31 openmoko: 03werner * r4036 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/scripts/build: Upgraded to GIT_HEAD 37e3c62fa07a823e7569c872e3a9395d227ed8e3, SVN_REV 4035. Feb 10 08:50:29 good morning Feb 10 09:05:31 good night! Feb 10 10:01:12 f you use this new version of the MokoMakefile, you can ignore everything below and just continue building OM-2007.2 in the same way that you previously built images (i.e. according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile). << now I see this line :P Feb 10 10:06:41 hi Feb 10 10:17:28 mmkay, how much space does my openmoko compilation need? at 11GB now :) Feb 10 10:17:58 hello Feb 10 10:19:12 is it possible to get some help? Feb 10 10:19:29 maybe Feb 10 10:20:54 I'm trying to build open moko Feb 10 10:21:07 however it seems to have a problem with svn Feb 10 10:21:17 cant open, Feb 10 10:21:28 can't open? Feb 10 10:21:34 for some reason this operation is not permitted Feb 10 10:21:59 svn: In directory 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine' Feb 10 10:21:59 svn: Can't open 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/.svn/tmp/COPYING.tmp.tmp': Operation not permitted Feb 10 10:21:59 make: *** [stamps/openmoko] Error 1 Feb 10 10:23:20 ahven: are you there? Feb 10 10:23:45 hmm, can you view the file contents to verify that your are able to access it? Feb 10 10:23:59 e.g. cat Feb 10 10:24:05 I am root Feb 10 10:24:14 should that not be sufficient? Feb 10 10:24:44 and the file is there? Feb 10 10:25:19 blah Feb 10 10:25:25 * ahven hits himself Feb 10 10:27:29 ahven: looks like I cant find it Feb 10 10:27:37 have you tried http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile#Build_issues ? Feb 10 10:28:01 yep Feb 10 10:28:02 something seems to be wrong with the svn, looks to me Feb 10 10:28:31 and you are not running out of space? Feb 10 10:29:09 I was initially, however I have put it on my external drive Feb 10 10:30:19 on what task is that svn checkout happening? Feb 10 10:30:31 currently building it myself Feb 10 10:32:48 yep it is missing files, not sure why Feb 10 10:33:26 currently at 2217 and no errors so far, only free space problems Feb 10 10:35:39 try 3 times once more and report to rwhitby :) Feb 10 10:35:55 yes it needs 12G, it is a massive project Feb 10 10:36:05 but space is not my problem Feb 10 10:36:24 12? I think I have exceeded that already :) Feb 10 10:36:34 possible Feb 10 10:36:43 12G is the recommended specification Feb 10 10:36:53 is there any way to delete an installation? Feb 10 10:37:01 such that space can be recovered? Feb 10 10:37:56 installation of what? Feb 10 10:37:56 like a build script to uninstall Feb 10 10:38:05 don't know Feb 10 10:38:13 never mind Feb 10 10:38:20 trying it over now Feb 10 10:39:27 A trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/README Feb 10 10:39:27 svn: In directory 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine' Feb 10 10:39:27 svn: Can't open 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/.svn/tmp/COPYING.tmp.tmp': Operation not permitted Feb 10 10:39:27 make: *** [stamps/openmoko] Error 1 Feb 10 10:39:51 as you suggested this is simply because the file does not exist Feb 10 10:40:12 why is it looking for a file that does not exist in the first palace? Feb 10 10:40:46 because it should be existing on any non-broken svn checkout? Feb 10 10:40:47 the index refers to it, but it isn't there? don't know how svn works Feb 10 10:41:33 is there any way to solve this? Feb 10 10:42:10 online_: on what tasknumber is that svn checkout happening? Feb 10 10:42:47 not sure Feb 10 10:52:42 ahven: how can I get to know the task number Feb 10 10:52:57 have been looking all over and dont seem to find it Feb 10 10:53:07 NOTE: Running task 2305 of 5344 Feb 10 10:53:14 lines starting like this Feb 10 10:53:34 it does not display that Feb 10 10:53:35 ? Feb 10 10:53:50 and my terminal does not allow me to scroll up any way Feb 10 10:57:50 you need a better terminal then ;) Feb 10 10:58:01 * * OM Bug 1224 has been created by balrogg(AT)gmail.com Feb 10 10:58:02 * * Qemu-neo1973 needs to pass the init script through the preboot-override Feb 10 10:58:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1224 Feb 10 10:59:23 CoreDump|afk: a simple command could solve that Feb 10 11:00:11 so could any reasonable terminal out there *shrug* Feb 10 11:02:56 just using the default of my distribution Feb 10 11:03:01 noting special Feb 10 11:05:07 to be honest, I've never seen a terminal app that couldn't scroll Feb 10 11:41:58 hi Feb 10 11:42:45 openmoko: 03andrew * r4037 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/neo1973.c: Use u-boot's preboot-override to set up an initial environment on the first run. Feb 10 12:16:41 L7, stop iniviting me or I'll report you to the staff... Feb 10 12:16:53 hi Feb 10 12:17:11 how is it possible to download open moko its SVN Feb 10 12:17:23 if it located here Feb 10 12:17:25 http://svn.openmoko.org/ Feb 10 12:18:02 I have this error that says that I am missing a file, and though that if I manually downloaded it it would be sorted Feb 10 12:19:02 ruskie: aggressive promoting? :) Feb 10 12:20:39 PBeck, if you consider invites to #world-politics promoting... Feb 10 12:23:46 I call it a civil and sincere invitation, I started it yesterday and figured it would be nice to see a few people. Feb 10 12:23:56 I apologize if I upset any one. Feb 10 12:32:47 ruskie: :> Feb 10 12:33:20 :) Feb 10 12:33:36 hello Feb 10 12:34:36 have a small inconvenience, this is that I am not able to access the SVN repository for openmoko Feb 10 12:35:05 svn: In directory 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine' Feb 10 12:35:05 svn: Can't open 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/.svn/tmp/COPYING.tmp.tmp': Operation not permitted Feb 10 12:35:05 make: *** [stamps/openmoko] Error 1 Feb 10 12:35:28 is there any one in this channel that is able to resolve this? Feb 10 12:49:21 hello Feb 10 13:15:48 is any one here? Feb 10 13:18:34 look I am trying to build openmoko with qemu Feb 10 13:18:44 but there is some thing wrong with svn Feb 10 13:19:03 for some reason I am not able to access a file from the repository Feb 10 13:19:24 svn: In directory 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine' Feb 10 13:19:24 svn: Can't open 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/.svn/tmp/COPYING.tmp.tmp': Operation not permitted Feb 10 13:19:24 make: *** [stamps/openmoko] Error 1 Feb 10 13:19:54 is there any one in this channel that can look into this Feb 10 13:20:09 or tell me why it is not able to access the repository? Feb 10 13:26:09 online_: yeah Feb 10 13:26:50 edistar: you mean there is some one active, or you know what I can do to get this running Feb 10 14:09:16 openmoko: 03mickey * r4038 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-terminal2/src/mainwindow.vala: openmoko-terminal2: improve -e command line parsing (patch by Håko) Feb 10 14:25:48 CIA-16: you see to be the only person online Feb 10 14:26:13 is it possible that you know the answer to my problem Feb 10 14:26:35 Every time I run the build file it complains about missing files Feb 10 14:27:23 what can I do to get the whole repository on my hd? Feb 10 14:32:06 online__: Using mokomakefile? Feb 10 14:32:13 yes Feb 10 14:32:27 I have got it from the wiki Feb 10 14:32:40 I need some help Feb 10 14:32:40 Try deleting the "openmoko" directory so SVN will check out everything from scratch Feb 10 14:32:55 I have tried that Feb 10 14:33:23 That's odd Feb 10 14:33:26 if I run it twice with the same folder then it starts complaing about not finding the config file Feb 10 14:33:49 What do you mean - twice with the same folder? Feb 10 14:34:04 as I say Feb 10 14:34:32 after deleting then it does not work, when I retry it then it does not work for a different reason Feb 10 14:34:36 Ah Feb 10 14:34:46 when I delete the folder then it comes back with the same problem Feb 10 14:35:28 Do you have the openmoko directory around now? Feb 10 14:35:49 I have created a new one Feb 10 14:35:55 Ah Feb 10 14:35:58 and downloaded the makefile to it Feb 10 14:36:46 So you have the makefile (and only the makefile) in something like ~/openmoko ? Feb 10 14:37:00 yes Feb 10 14:37:06 okay Feb 10 14:37:13 Try doing "make setup" in there then, please Feb 10 14:37:20 ok Feb 10 14:37:35 when I do that it complains about creating a dynamic link Feb 10 14:37:41 I'll try it again Feb 10 14:37:45 meh... Feb 10 14:37:52 hello Feb 10 14:37:59 which FS are you using? Feb 10 14:38:09 heya maki``, coredump Feb 10 14:38:19 greetings Feb 10 14:38:20 i need help, i use the unstable openmoko software Feb 10 14:38:48 maki``: I'd be happy if there were a stable one ;) - what do you need help with? Feb 10 14:38:58 iif i attemp to connect to the ssh server, i obtain ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused Feb 10 14:39:13 i use mandriva 2008 Feb 10 14:39:19 maki``: Do you have the necessary kernel modules installed/loaded? Feb 10 14:39:34 in the openmoko ? or in my computer ? Feb 10 14:39:38 Computer Feb 10 14:39:50 what's name of modules ? Feb 10 14:40:10 abraxa_: because it will take some time before it is done I have here the error that it gave me last time I did this wrong Feb 10 14:40:11 sorry for my english Feb 10 14:40:12 ( ln -sfn ../../openmoko/trunk/src/host/openembedded/site.conf build/conf/site.conf ) Feb 10 14:40:12 ln: creating symbolic link `build/conf/site.conf' to `../../openmoko/trunk/src/host/openembedded/site.conf': Operation not permitted Feb 10 14:40:27 online__: What FS are you using? Feb 10 14:40:32 online_: which FS are you using? Feb 10 14:41:11 I would think it is 85 linux extended probably three, why ? Feb 10 14:41:26 that is a partition type, not a filesystem Feb 10 14:41:40 maki``: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973#By_using_Ethernet_emulation_over_a_USB_cable Feb 10 14:41:47 i have just loaded "modprobe cdc_ether" Feb 10 14:41:57 yes i read this :) Feb 10 14:42:02 no symlinks usually means the victim is using some MS FS..... Feb 10 14:42:17 iptable problem ? Feb 10 14:42:32 lol, I understand, that is not my case, linux Feb 10 14:43:00 you still didn't answer the question ;) Feb 10 14:43:15 I? Feb 10 14:43:16 maki``: Does ifconfig show the usb0 interface? Feb 10 14:43:34 yes, 1 second i paste this Feb 10 14:43:37 oki Feb 10 14:43:44 online__: mount gives you the mounted filesystems Feb 10 14:43:53 http://pastebin.com/m2945bc71 Feb 10 14:43:55 :) Feb 10 14:44:06 online_: yes. to even begin debug your problem, we need to know the filesystem on the partition you are downloading the software to Feb 10 14:44:31 online__: The symbolic link it tries to create is dependent on a file checked out from SVN - since your SVN checkout seems to fail, this might be the culprit Feb 10 14:44:38 ext3, as I told you Feb 10 14:44:51 i successly connect to the ssh server by the terminal Feb 10 14:44:56 and not by the computer Feb 10 14:45:02 online_: not to me Feb 10 14:45:24 online_: your partition might be mounted with some fancy mount options Feb 10 14:45:28 I would think it is 85 linux extended probably three, why ? Feb 10 14:45:42 is possible, not sure Feb 10 14:45:46 that is a partition type, not a filesystem Feb 10 14:45:54 I am not an expert, just running a build script really Feb 10 14:46:14 online__: "mount" will tell you what FS it is Feb 10 14:46:16 I appreciate the help, have been about this all morning Feb 10 14:46:48 you could set your partition to 85 and still format it with NTFS or some other garbage ;) Feb 10 14:46:48 /dev/sda4 on / type ext3 , this is the filesystem Feb 10 14:46:57 okay Feb 10 14:47:15 I set it up myself I know the one Feb 10 14:47:22 maki``: Can you ping 192.168.0.202 then? Feb 10 14:47:30 online_: try a ln -s /bin/false /tmp/false Feb 10 14:47:34 hey good question ! Feb 10 14:47:46 openmoko: 03mickey * r4039 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-terminal2/src/mainwindow.vala: openmoko-terminal: handle -x option Feb 10 14:47:51 second i paste :) Feb 10 14:47:54 yes that works fine Feb 10 14:48:09 online__: Then I don't see why ssh would fail Feb 10 14:48:12 maki``: make sure (with ifconfig -a) that no other device has this IP than usb0 Feb 10 14:48:27 http://pastebin.com/m314236c8 Feb 10 14:48:39 I ran into this problem when my eth0 was set to this IP.... Feb 10 14:48:42 i successfuly ping 192.168.0.200 and not 192.168.0.202 :( Feb 10 14:48:44 abraxa_: ssh, secure shell? Feb 10 14:49:29 maki``: Can you ping 192.168.0.200 from the Neo? Feb 10 14:49:31 online__: yeap Feb 10 14:49:43 i test Feb 10 14:49:47 how is that related? Feb 10 14:49:53 ifconfig in the openmoko say about lo and usb0 Feb 10 14:50:06 online_: please pastebin the full output of "df", "mount" and also the full path to the openmoko folder Feb 10 14:51:50 abraxa_: i don't have response Feb 10 14:51:59 Host lookup failure Feb 10 14:52:54 maki``: Okay. Do you have the usbnet module loaded on your host? Feb 10 14:52:58 (just making sure) Feb 10 14:53:09 in the computer ? Feb 10 14:53:12 Yeah Feb 10 14:53:20 modprobe usbnet ? Feb 10 14:53:21 You need cdc_ether and usbnet Feb 10 14:53:25 Yep Feb 10 14:53:30 i have loaded cdc_ether Feb 10 14:53:33 and no usbnet Feb 10 14:54:49 i have loaded the modules, and don't have changing Feb 10 14:54:56 http://pastebin.com/m23ba6556 Feb 10 14:54:58 i need more manipulations ? Feb 10 14:55:42 From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable Feb 10 14:56:03 i have the same issu Feb 10 14:56:10 maki``: Please try "ping -I usb0 192.168.0.202" Feb 10 14:56:28 abraxa_: did not get a complaint about the ln Feb 10 14:56:36 the problem is SVN Feb 10 14:56:45 svn: In directory 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine' Feb 10 14:56:45 svn: Can't open 'trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/.svn/tmp/COPYING.tmp.tmp': Operation not permitted Feb 10 14:56:45 make: *** [setup-openmoko] Error 1 Feb 10 14:56:53 abraxa_: http://pastebin.com/m75960c7e Feb 10 14:57:15 online_: Your OM path is /media/STORAGE/OM, according to "mount" this directory is a VFAT partition. There's your problem Feb 10 14:57:28 the neo is a superb toy :) Feb 10 14:58:05 CoreDump: yes you are right Feb 10 14:58:16 I did not pick this up Feb 10 14:58:31 I get that sorted Feb 10 14:58:46 no worries ;) Move to OM folder to a Linux F and you'll be fine Feb 10 14:58:49 is it possible to do it on that partition? Feb 10 14:59:11 online__: Just to make sure... do you know you can use qemu without having to build OpenMoko locally first? Feb 10 14:59:13 ok that answers the question Feb 10 14:59:46 abraxa_: I did not think about that Feb 10 15:00:03 but I would like to build openmoko, as I will need it Feb 10 15:00:24 did you see the past I made that complains about SVN? Feb 10 15:00:41 online__: Okay, just saying... cause qemu might be a bit of a disappointment, performance-wise. Feb 10 15:01:52 I realise that there are better emulators available Feb 10 15:02:09 but I am not worries, I have enough memory Feb 10 15:02:31 what is 192.168.0.200 ? Feb 10 15:02:44 maki``: .0.200 is your computer, .0.202 is the neo Feb 10 15:02:57 okey :) Feb 10 15:03:20 maki``: Something on your computer seems to be wrong cause usb0 exists - and yet, ping doesn't work Feb 10 15:03:57 mandriva have shorewall + iptables Feb 10 15:04:04 tried setting up usb0 manually? ie: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 Feb 10 15:04:12 abraxa_: do you know what is causing this error with SVN Feb 10 15:04:23 and why I am not able to build open moko? Feb 10 15:04:24 Feb 10 15:04:24 The problem may be coming from there? Feb 10 15:04:55 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 <<< no result in the screen Feb 10 15:05:09 maybe your home network uses 192.168.0.0-255, so the preexisting route goes over 802.11 or ethernet and the new route doesn't Feb 10 15:05:16 pastebin 'route -n' , maybe Feb 10 15:05:23 online_: We told you. You are using a MS FS that does not support symlinks and other Linux features Feb 10 15:05:32 online__: Could be because of vfat as well Feb 10 15:05:41 i have by the french provider , the "neufbox" Feb 10 15:05:50 move your OM dir to a Linux FS and you will be fine Feb 10 15:05:51 second Feb 10 15:06:19 http://pastebin.com/m775a5083 Feb 10 15:06:25 maki``: Maybe shorewall/iptables are blocking the packets indeed. Feb 10 15:06:41 D: .. nope, i am wrong Feb 10 15:07:17 maki``: iptables -F ; iptables -X ; iptables -t NAT -F should remove any iptables rules Feb 10 15:07:39 it's not dangerous ? Feb 10 15:07:40 you could try telnet 192.168.0.202 22, if it prints out something about SSH then its working (just ping doesn't work) Feb 10 15:08:15 i try this manipulation CoreDump Feb 10 15:08:19 not if you are behind a router / NAT box Feb 10 15:08:35 /o\ Openmoko is vulnerable for local root exploit Feb 10 15:08:43 lol Mononoke Feb 10 15:09:07 openmoko: 03mickey * r4040 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/daemons/neod/src/buttonactions.c: neod: revert to using g_timeout_add for the button timeout. add_seconds may add too much latency Feb 10 15:09:08 could anyone try it ? :) Feb 10 15:09:14 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/27704/info Feb 10 15:09:49 i am having a slight issue when building the openmoko-devel-image, sqlite complains of trying to write to a readonly database, anyone familiar with this problem? Feb 10 15:10:50 lol, all of 2.6 Feb 10 15:11:09 brutal disconnection after iptable - Feb 10 15:11:17 oops ~_~ Feb 10 15:11:25 Mononoke: "It should work well, but I don't remeber original intent of all the code" - damn... I want to smoke what that guy has Feb 10 15:11:50 maki_: ...but could you ping your Neo? That's the important question :D Feb 10 15:11:55 =) Feb 10 15:11:57 Who cares about the internet! Feb 10 15:12:15 lol Feb 10 15:12:32 please copy / paste your commands ? i retry Feb 10 15:12:45 I guess the default policies were set to "DENY" Feb 10 15:12:53 ping -c5 192.168.0.202 after disconnection ? Feb 10 15:13:00 maki_: iptables -F ; iptables -X ; iptables -t NAT -F Feb 10 15:13:05 hold it Feb 10 15:13:21 you need to unb0rk the policies before doing that Feb 10 15:13:44 go :) Feb 10 15:13:49 thnak in advance Feb 10 15:13:54 maki_: Wait a sec Feb 10 15:13:55 iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT ; iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT ; iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT Feb 10 15:15:52 CoreDump: Looks like he was too fast Feb 10 15:16:09 =) Feb 10 15:16:24 I can try now? Feb 10 15:16:39 maki_: The commands CoreDump posted last, yeah Feb 10 15:16:46 They won't kick you off Feb 10 15:17:07 okey, thank, i try :) Feb 10 15:17:47 i'm not disconneted, good Feb 10 15:19:41 same response from 192.168.0.202 Feb 10 15:21:58 and after iptables -F ; iptables -X ; iptables -t NAT -F ? Feb 10 15:22:09 this time it shouldn't drop you offline Feb 10 15:22:53 after, who command i try ? Feb 10 15:23:16 sorry Feb 10 15:23:22 after, what commands i try ? Feb 10 15:24:17 iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT ; iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT ; iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT ; iptables -F ; iptables -X ; iptables -t NAT -F Feb 10 15:24:42 from the reboot, i have entried this commands : Feb 10 15:25:12 modprobe cdc_ether , modprobe usbnet, ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 Feb 10 15:25:30 and iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT ; iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT ; iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT Feb 10 15:27:04 i try your command CoreDump :) Feb 10 15:28:20 hey Feb 10 15:28:27 you save my neo :D Feb 10 15:28:33 thanks ! Feb 10 15:28:47 and open my pc :( Feb 10 15:28:51 it's work ! :) Feb 10 15:28:54 yay! Feb 10 15:28:58 excellent Feb 10 15:29:15 i use the lastest mandriva 2008 for information Feb 10 15:29:19 now study the documentation of that firewall of yours on how to allow usb0 Feb 10 15:30:07 i like to save my firewall :( Feb 10 15:30:33 very thank for your help ! Feb 10 15:30:34 you can allow usb0 through your firewall and still be "safe" Feb 10 15:30:47 np, glad it worked out Feb 10 15:31:08 Can you tell me how ? please Feb 10 15:31:30 sorry, I don't use a firewall Feb 10 15:32:26 last small question : Where is the bell ? in the filesystem Feb 10 15:32:46 the what? Feb 10 15:32:46 i like to change this :) Feb 10 15:32:58 the melody Feb 10 15:33:15 beats me =) Haven't played with neo in ages Feb 10 15:34:03 okey, thank :) Feb 10 15:34:15 maki_: /usr/share/openmoko/sounds/ Feb 10 15:34:23 very thank Feb 10 15:34:30 have a good day ! Feb 10 15:34:34 You, too! Feb 10 15:34:40 cya Feb 10 15:34:45 meh study of coding + philosophy of language is fun Feb 10 15:34:54 o/ Feb 10 15:35:31 LOL, the pay-for-wifi was owned Feb 10 15:35:56 ip forwarding + masquerade Feb 10 15:42:54 860 upgraded, 56 newly installed, 2 to remove and 3 not upgraded. *cough* Feb 10 16:00:26 hi Feb 10 16:00:26 back Feb 10 16:00:26 have changed my file system Feb 10 16:00:41 abraxa_: still having the same problem with SVN Feb 10 16:42:59 ERROR: '['/u/moko/openembedded/packages/gpsd/gpsd_2.34.bb']' RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the runtime entity 'python-ncurses' but it wasn't found in any PACKAGE or RPROVIDES variables Feb 10 16:43:40 ^^^^^ whomever has been working on the gpsd stuff, it's broken and it's preventing OM from building -- could you fix it, please? Feb 10 16:44:21 * mwester figures he'll probably have to go look in the commit logs and go kick down some doors... Feb 10 16:44:26 hehe Feb 10 16:44:29 you go girl! Feb 10 16:44:57 <3 mwester for commiting to embedded projects Feb 10 16:45:10 hehe - I'm cranky this morning. I know it's "bleeding edge", but that's no excuse for leaving it unbuildable for two days. Feb 10 16:45:32 i agree Feb 10 16:45:55 i wish i knew more about these things, im trying to learn, but it feels like the build systems and projects evolve faster than i learn Feb 10 16:46:07 so no matter what i do, im always a few years behind :) Feb 10 17:50:21 hello all Feb 10 17:50:56 guys, anybody has build with enabled SD booting? Feb 10 18:01:05 * SpeedEvil answers deeply unhelpfully. Yes. Feb 10 18:01:13 I don't remember who did it. Feb 10 18:04:27 lot of people has OM with booting from SD but did everybody build ther own image? Feb 10 18:05:55 I don't see a reason why cp wouldn't work to copy it over for booting Feb 10 18:07:17 SpeedEvil: wasn't it ScaredyCat? Feb 10 18:08:14 Possibly, yes Feb 10 18:08:37 SpeedEvil: the problem is that http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Step_1:_Change_your_kernel_settings Feb 10 18:08:43 you need special build Feb 10 18:08:50 according to that wiki page Feb 10 18:10:05 latest fs images are so huge that there's about 2MB left Feb 10 18:18:01 Yes, the om distro is in massive need of a diet; it is beyond overweight and is now obviously obese. Feb 10 18:19:09 The problem IMO is that while it supports adding packages and feeds, the culture around om has never promoted the use of same -- rather it's been "add it to the image!" (as if I have need of half of the **** dropped on the default image!!) Feb 10 18:19:42