**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 23 02:59:56 2008 Mar 23 04:04:06 Hi all, just thought I would let everyone know who helped me out, that the autonomous boat is fully functional. Mar 23 04:04:21 I will be testing it tomorrow on the water. Mar 23 04:04:29 Congrats! Mar 23 04:04:42 We hope not to hear of your arrest for smuggling! :) Mar 23 04:05:00 And that you get it bacck Mar 23 04:05:06 Hehe Mar 23 04:05:32 Well the first outing will probably be quite short just to prove it. Mar 23 04:05:41 what class of boat? Mar 23 04:06:03 Um - my own design - very flat bottom. Almost like a barge Mar 23 04:06:11 Very stable, quite slow. Mar 23 04:06:15 I mean how large Mar 23 04:06:21 12", 12m Mar 23 04:06:23 About a meter Mar 23 04:06:42 long, 40cm wide Mar 23 04:06:52 :) Mar 23 04:07:20 I'm going to spend tonight testing comms and control. Mar 23 04:08:25 Anyhow, will post details and a vid tomorrow. Mar 23 04:11:19 I considered using my phone for a controller for my UAV. Mar 23 04:11:24 Then I came to my senses. Mar 23 04:11:58 Way too heavy and smashable Mar 23 04:17:42 good morning Mar 23 06:09:19 anybody know of any 2007.2 builds that don't suck? (read: actually throw up an interface that's usable :)) Mar 23 06:12:27 rtyler: ScaredyCat's latest image works pretty well for me Mar 23 06:12:35 CM: link? Mar 23 06:12:41 http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/?M=D Mar 23 06:12:44 :) Mar 23 06:12:46 rtyler: Check out http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:SnapshotReview Mar 23 06:20:46 CM: giving yesterday's build a whirl; you running it? Mar 23 06:21:29 Yes, but I have messed up the usb networking on my host pc so I can't try the gps Mar 23 06:21:54 But besides that it seems to work just fine :) Mar 23 06:44:09 CM: this build is locking up halfway through boot :-p Mar 23 06:44:15 progress bar stuck at 50% Mar 23 06:44:22 wtf.. Mar 23 06:44:27 Was slow, I thought Mar 23 06:44:34 But it did boot Mar 23 06:44:52 Maybe try the official build instead, the one from the latest review wurp2|away linked to Mar 23 06:47:32 CM: did you update the kernel as well? Mar 23 06:50:59 rtyler: yes Mar 23 06:57:52 hmm Mar 23 06:59:44 CM: rebooting, seeing if maybe it just was having trouble the first time around Mar 23 07:09:11 CM: seems to be breaking down after "Done configuring packages" Mar 23 07:09:30 ~blame ScaredyCat Mar 23 07:09:31 * apt blames ScaredyCat (and Canada) for all the evil in the world Mar 23 07:09:37 for some reason this time it dropped out of the startup UI and is showing the console text Mar 23 07:10:00 That's what it did for em too, I had console scrolling by Mar 23 07:11:22 hrtmph Mar 23 07:58:50 lol at the blame message :) Mar 23 08:00:32 apt has some nice comments :) Mar 23 08:01:36 speaking of apt Mar 23 08:01:44 how easy will it be to install something like ubuntu on th emoko? Mar 23 08:02:06 CM: this is the first time I notice it :) Mar 23 08:02:11 will the phone software be simply software that runs on top of whatever you want provided the right libraries/kernel are there? Mar 23 08:03:36 not Mar 23 08:03:52 the wm is pretty much the core of the systen Mar 23 08:03:53 the wm is pretty much the core of the system Mar 23 08:05:38 ah k. Mar 23 08:05:55 so those wanting to try kde on it will haveto write the apps for all that functionality Mar 23 08:05:57 cool. Mar 23 08:06:44 makes sense, you guys are using th eenlightenment wm maybe? or something totally custom? Mar 23 08:13:51 matchbox atm Mar 23 08:14:14 conside that more than one window rarely makes sense. Mar 23 08:14:46 yes i agree Mar 23 08:14:49 thats cool Mar 23 08:14:54 very light and fast Mar 23 08:22:59 holycow: check this: http://neo1973-germany.de/ most of the apps are written in e-py Mar 23 08:23:14 *ooo* Mar 23 08:23:16 :) Mar 23 08:24:29 oh, wow Mar 23 08:25:54 ;) Mar 23 08:33:09 thank you for that link Mar 23 08:33:32 holycow, /me runs debian on the neo Mar 23 08:33:47 josch: oh really? Mar 23 08:33:58 holycow, no magic there ^^ Mar 23 08:34:01 sweet! Mar 23 08:34:05 I wrote a howto Mar 23 08:34:18 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian Mar 23 08:34:22 uh, lol, let me guess i should of wikied Mar 23 08:34:33 well why of course, if it can exist, it already does Mar 23 08:34:38 i should know better than that! Mar 23 08:34:39 :) Mar 23 08:35:14 but the howto is not finished - I'm still verifieing everything and all the xorg stuff is missig Mar 23 08:35:20 im working on this Mar 23 08:35:26 and speaking about xorg Mar 23 08:35:39 it seems i need a modeline to get the display to work properly Mar 23 08:35:43 aha, yeah this is beyond cool as it is. Mar 23 08:35:59 where do I find the modeline that is used to configure kdrive in openmoko? Mar 23 08:37:06 as you can guess by my questions i'm a bit of a noob to moko and running an os on such unique devices Mar 23 08:37:55 i wish i could answer that Mar 23 08:40:23 holycow, running sth. like ubuntu is theoretically possible but since ubuntu is a binary distribution like debian you would have to get armv4t ubuntu packages - which do only exist for debian and not for ubuntu Mar 23 08:40:54 *nod* Mar 23 08:40:58 at the 24c3 we also got gentoo working on openmoko Mar 23 08:41:02 äh... Mar 23 08:41:08 on neo1973 i mean Mar 23 08:41:46 moin abraxa_ Mar 23 08:42:15 i'm sure i will play as soon as i get to purchas a freerunner, but ubuntu would be just a test. i will be playing around with debian my self. Mar 23 08:42:36 thats great tho, i appreciate the wiki page, i will contribute as soon as i can Mar 23 08:43:14 i only have to figure out how to configure xorg (modelines) and the touchscreen - the rest will work out of the box Mar 23 08:43:40 kdrive modelines anyone? Mar 23 08:53:43 hiya Mar 23 08:54:04 Marcel_M: i will be at metalab today from 1pm/2pm for the afternoon .. hope you can make it. Mar 23 09:05:21 good morning :) Mar 23 09:16:57 ~lart rtyler Mar 23 09:16:57 * apt strangles rtyler with a doohicky mouse cord Mar 23 09:17:01 ~lart CM Mar 23 09:17:02 * apt teaches CM the basics, including how to RTM Mar 23 09:17:19 ~fish ScaredyCat Mar 23 09:17:20 * apt slaps ScaredyCat around with a large trout Mar 23 09:17:23 the first boot allways takes longer Mar 23 09:17:23 :D Mar 23 09:17:37 because it's doin gfirst run stuff Mar 23 10:15:09 hrm... Mar 23 10:15:30 or does anyone have an idea who is responsible for the kdrive package? Mar 23 10:15:40 so - who could I ask? Mar 23 10:27:44 seems everybody is busy on easter ^^ Mar 23 10:28:04 ^^ Mar 23 10:34:44 josch: sorry, ph5 is kdrive man I think Mar 23 10:35:05 josch: sorry, ph5 is kdrive man I think? Mar 23 10:35:14 josch: whats the problem? Mar 23 10:35:31 XorA, ah thx!! so I will digg around further while waiting for him Mar 23 10:35:51 XorA, I'm running debian on my neo1973 and wanted to know how to run xorg properly Mar 23 10:36:07 josch: hmm, fbdev driver should work Mar 23 10:36:09 and laf0rge told me that the strange effects I observe need a modeline Mar 23 10:36:31 josch: hmm, fbdev driver should work/ Mar 23 10:36:48 shit new keyboard I keep hitting up not shift Mar 23 10:37:04 josch: did you get touchscreen working? Mar 23 10:37:15 XorA, partly - this is also a problem Mar 23 10:37:36 it needs xserver-xorg-input-evtouch Mar 23 10:37:36 josch: if you need a modeline there is somewhere a guide to convert the output of fbset to ModeLine Mar 23 10:37:43 but its not calibrated it seems Mar 23 10:37:57 XorA, oh nice - will try that Mar 23 10:38:50 I havent done that since before the days when Voodoo Banshee were supported Mar 23 10:39:02 hrhr Mar 23 10:39:06 ahah getting more of a hang of keyboard now Mar 23 11:01:54 could it be that the internal clock is reset when removing the battery? Mar 23 11:02:44 pH5, !! Mar 23 11:02:56 have some time? Mar 23 11:03:46 morning josch Mar 23 11:04:11 i was told you are kind of into the xserver-kdrive stuff? Mar 23 11:04:46 laf0rge told me that the neo1973 display needs a modeline to work properly and i need some directions to find this modeline Mar 23 11:08:36 josch: people keep saying that. I've only played with input internals though. Mar 23 11:08:50 shouldn't modesetting be fbset territory for Xfbdev? Mar 23 11:09:13 XorA, told me that i should play around with fbset first Mar 23 11:11:26 I had sound on a resent build but after some reboots it is gone again :( Mar 23 11:11:38 recent* Mar 23 11:11:53 grrr sound problems Mar 23 11:12:31 ahven: does it come back with another reboot? Mar 23 11:12:48 ahven, in ancient times killing pulseaudio helped :-) Mar 23 11:12:48 will try booting it up again now Mar 23 11:13:43 josch: just kill it? no manual start after that? Mar 23 11:13:49 I think there might be a slight race condition that means sometimes pulse doesnt start, but its rare to occur for me Mar 23 11:14:06 ahven, try it out Mar 23 11:14:23 and is there a solution to the uboot problem, e.g no need to boot it with aux+power? Mar 23 11:14:34 with a recent uboot for example Mar 23 11:14:50 ahven: should be fixed in recent uboot Mar 23 11:15:01 ?? what problem? Mar 23 11:15:15 ~lart cdbot2 Mar 23 11:15:15 * apt takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down cdbot2's throat until cdbot2 puts on 150lbs Mar 23 11:15:21 josch: you need either usb cable in or hold aux for boot to work Mar 23 11:15:29 josch: known problem of old uboots Mar 23 11:15:31 XorA, lol?? since when? Mar 23 11:15:40 was for some time Mar 23 11:15:44 josch: was like that for months Mar 23 11:15:49 ahven: but is fixed now Mar 23 11:15:58 josch, re Mar 23 11:15:59 hi all Mar 23 11:16:02 * josch used uboot since august last year without problems Mar 23 11:16:15 hi Sup3rkiddo Mar 23 11:16:23 have a more recent uboot and that problem Mar 23 11:17:16 Sup3rkiddo, sry for not responding but I was very busy since I quit university and want to start at another one now (am currently working for nokia-siemens till winter semester) Mar 23 11:17:56 josch, wow..no fair you get to play with all the gadgets :S Mar 23 11:18:34 ~lart josch Mar 23 11:18:34 * apt hits josch with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha Mar 23 11:18:45 * XorA chuckles Mar 23 11:18:48 -_____- Mar 23 11:18:57 whats a contralto voice? :/ Mar 23 11:20:07 josch: no help :( Mar 23 11:20:22 hrm.. Mar 23 11:23:41 ah fixed the clock problem - needed udev Mar 23 11:56:53 Hi Mar 23 12:27:35 Any mentor for Google Summer of code here? Mar 23 12:42:19 yay for the snow :D Mar 23 12:49:22 * XorA misses snow Mar 23 12:51:32 * Stephmw does too Mar 23 12:51:59 ground's too wet here for it to survive Mar 23 12:52:27 it's a bit rare to have snow in england to Mar 23 12:52:29 too* Mar 23 12:56:55 ajbrun: aye, none survived in London :( Mar 23 12:59:37 ah - it's laying up here in the north Mar 23 13:11:53 * XorA is stuck in Taipei at 25C and there is no chance of snow :-( Mar 23 13:33:54 hi, i played along with the current openmoko image in qemu and wondered about that each time i want to call someone the dialer has to be startet and then is beeing closed. that increases the time to dial. wouldn't it be better the dialer is left open after making a call? or is there a technical reason? Mar 23 14:07:48 Anyone can help me to contact a mentor for Google Summer of Code? Mar 23 14:10:46 no Mar 23 14:30:53 Nilegue_KiWi: ask mickeyl Mar 23 14:32:53 ccfly: I try to talk to him for 2 days on irc, but he never answers Mar 23 14:33:33 I would guess everyone is busy trying to get GTA02 out of the doors Mar 23 14:33:54 have you tried posting a message to the community mailing list ? Mar 23 14:34:35 not yet Mar 23 14:35:41 I'll try that Mar 23 14:36:58 Do you know if there are many students who wants to be part of Google Summer of Code in OpenMoko? Mar 23 14:37:58 There were 3 or 4 on the community list, but the number should increase once the application week starts I think... Mar 23 14:38:03 XorA|gone, fbset -x gives me all I need I think!! Mar 23 14:38:40 Tanuva: Okay Mar 23 14:58:51 hola Mar 23 15:07:48 ScaredyCat: where can i get your theme? Mar 23 15:08:39 anyone know which uboot is the latest and greatest, which also provides root-on-sd? Mar 23 15:13:25 torpor, root-on-sd is already possible but not boot from sdhc Mar 23 15:18:31 josch: root-on-sd doesn't work for me with the latest u-boot. Mar 23 15:18:38 but i have been using it lot for the last 6 month. Mar 23 15:18:49 so i'll have to revert to a known-working u-boot.. Mar 23 15:21:25 torpor, the funny thing is, it's not really a theme Mar 23 15:21:34 torpor, it's just default GTK+ theme, but in black and orange Mar 23 15:23:05 thats gotta make the interface fly Mar 23 15:23:21 it does Mar 23 15:23:37 i'm tempted to make a new engine which is just slightly less ugly Mar 23 15:23:45 but just as fast Mar 23 15:23:52 gradient-- Mar 23 15:24:27 thos: do it :-) Mar 23 15:44:39 gradient isn't necessarily worth the effort Mar 23 15:44:48 if there is snap there need be no polish. Mar 23 15:44:58 imho Mar 23 16:12:09 boing! Mar 23 16:14:24 root on sdhc is possible but kernel on NAND? Mar 23 16:14:36 with kernel... Mar 23 16:15:06 Is it normal that the methode described on the wiki to create a network between OpenMoko on qemu and the host, doesn't work for me? Mar 23 16:18:00 torpor: yes you can Mar 23 16:21:12 if there is snap there need be no polish. Mar 23 16:21:29 * mwester applauds torpor's sentiments Mar 23 16:22:01 * mwester thinks more people here need an iphone, so they can compare the difference "snap" makes! Mar 23 16:30:16 * ScaredyCat pokes torpor Mar 23 16:30:17 http://blog.automated.it/2008/03/22/just-my-imagination/ Mar 23 16:30:21 link there Mar 23 16:36:37 * ScaredyCat snaps all mwester's pencils Mar 23 17:56:58 xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 255 (No such file or directory) Mar 23 17:57:02 damn you xorg!! Mar 23 17:57:04 :-( Mar 23 17:57:23 if I specify the vt manually it's the same problem Mar 23 17:57:45 also when xdm requires the 7th vt to be used I get this error Mar 23 17:58:06 ~lart xserver-xorg Mar 23 17:58:06 * apt eats xserver-xorg and falls over dead Mar 23 17:58:18 so would I... Mar 23 17:59:02 josch: be greatful, at least you have something to do :p Mar 23 17:59:14 i'm more bored then a board Mar 23 18:00:00 cb22, :P Mar 23 18:00:18 cb22: if you're bored, could you help me to create a network between qemu and the host OS? Mar 23 18:00:39 cb22, you may help if you have nothing to do - I wrote a nice howto how I got this far: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian :P Mar 23 18:00:42 Niluge_KiWi: why not :), i presume you're running linux? Mar 23 18:00:58 josch: is it possible to help with no neo? Mar 23 18:01:04 Niluge_KiWi, is there no wiki page about this? Mar 23 18:01:13 yes there is one Mar 23 18:01:14 cb22, i assume this problem is neo specific Mar 23 18:01:31 I tried, but it doesn't seem to work Mar 23 18:01:44 I'm on Debian Mar 23 18:01:44 ahoi Mar 23 18:02:15 y0 PBeck Mar 23 18:03:17 The tuto is here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU#Simple_network_connection_with_pppd Mar 23 18:04:06 * cb22 upgrades: celeron compile box is now known as core2duo compile box Mar 23 18:06:31 nice upgrade :) Mar 23 18:06:53 yes! Mar 23 18:07:47 * cb22 installs debian on it too, planning to compile some om images, for the fun of it :) Mar 23 18:11:30 tada! Mar 23 18:11:43 * ScaredyCat funks up image Mar 23 18:13:26 Hallo, people. I am looking for someone who is related with the GSoC 2008 here, to ask some questions. Can somebody help me? Mar 23 18:16:17 ScaredyCat: thanks for your video :) Mar 23 18:16:21 ScaredyCat: it looks nice :) Mar 23 18:16:31 ah you found it then :) Mar 23 18:16:56 i am a allday planet.openmoko.org reader ;) Mar 23 18:17:00 *an Mar 23 18:17:16 *all day ;) Mar 23 18:19:58 cloly: I searched for two days, I think we will not find someone here for GSoC Mar 23 18:20:15 haha Mar 23 18:20:30 ok, how do I attach files in bugzilla Mar 23 18:21:05 mickeyl just came back from south america. i think he will take care of the gsoc Mar 23 18:32:00 * * OM Bug 1291 has been created by scaredycat(AT)automated.it Mar 23 18:32:01 * * ScaredyCat's applet icons Mar 23 18:32:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1291 Mar 23 18:32:11 Niluge_KiWi, probably yes. Do you have an idea about an email we could write to ? Mar 23 18:35:24 ScaredyCat: what did you attach it as? Mar 23 18:35:33 ? Mar 23 18:35:39 it's a tarball Mar 23 18:36:01 * * OM Bug 1292 has been created by scaredycat(AT)automated.it Mar 23 18:36:02 * * Can't add attachment to bugzilla when creating bug Mar 23 18:36:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1292 Mar 23 18:36:09 will need moving about.. Mar 23 18:36:10 ah, it lost its extention Mar 23 18:36:17 tar.gz Mar 23 18:38:00 * * OM Bug 1293 has been created by scaredycat(AT)automated.it Mar 23 18:38:01 * * ScaredyCat's alternate theme Mar 23 18:38:02 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1293 Mar 23 18:38:20 that's a tar.gz too cb22 Mar 23 18:39:19 cloly: it's best to direct gsoc questions to the -devel mailing list Mar 23 18:39:43 mickeyl, thanks Mar 23 18:40:09 mickeyl: back from your holiday ;) Mar 23 18:40:11 ? Mar 23 18:40:32 *cough* Mar 23 18:40:35 "holiday" Mar 23 18:40:39 ya Mar 23 18:40:39 :D Mar 23 18:42:34 hey, happy easter, to those who celebrate it noe Mar 23 18:42:43 same to you Mar 23 18:43:32 thanks, but i am orthodox Mar 23 18:43:32 * ScaredyCat tries to speak with a mouth full of easter eggs Mar 23 18:43:33 :D Mar 23 18:44:17 * cb22 steals some non consumed easter eggs from ScaredyCat Mar 23 18:45:08 * ScaredyCat points at the warning signs on the wall "Danger exists while ScaredyCat eats. Get too close == get eaten" Mar 23 18:49:15 * cb22 craves freerunner info, kinda like blood to a vampire Mar 23 19:01:42 * ajbrun too tbh cb22 Mar 23 19:03:12 * ScaredyCat pokes thos Mar 23 19:08:07 hmm Mar 23 19:08:28 my old nokia 6100 has 3.7V battery, just like in gta01 Mar 23 19:08:40 a little thinner, everything else fits Mar 23 19:09:02 it should have little mAh also, as I remember Mar 23 19:09:53 ah, the Test Mode, starting to remember the text from the wiki :) Mar 23 19:11:26 btw, did they get an answer from someone in the community list, is buying a new battery for GTA01 possible in the future? Mar 23 19:16:28 Should we write to the devel or to the Community mailing list? Mar 23 19:46:05 hopefully the u-boot flashing went well :P Mar 23 19:53:44 * Mar 23 19:53:44 Every 3rd boot, X fails to start and displays a console login which is meaningless with no keyboard. << same here :( Mar 23 19:55:44 ahven: can you ssh in and find oout why it didn;t start... Mar 23 19:55:59 ScaredyCat: by the way, filed a bugzilla for it some time ago Mar 23 19:56:09 ah k Mar 23 20:05:42 the "smooth" scrolling is kind of annoying Mar 23 20:05:51 can't do exact scrolls Mar 23 20:06:52 ahven, yeah never liked it in windows, either Mar 23 20:10:38 ScaredyCat: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1262 Mar 23 20:10:54 going to reboot my Neo a little to see if the error remains the same Mar 23 20:11:07 * cb22 thinks tilt scrolling would be cool Mar 23 20:11:59 wanna know what's high on my list? APM! Mar 23 20:13:25 When I try to create a network between qemu and the host, following http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU#Simple_network_connection_with_pppd , it says on qemu : "tcflush failed: Bad file descriptor", is it normal? Mar 23 20:35:56 ahven: next time it happens can you attach your x.log to that bug Mar 23 20:37:13 ScaredyCat: see that URL on the bug, going to attach a x.log from a newer build pretty soon Mar 23 20:37:21 pastebin URL that is Mar 23 20:40:37 building a custom init-script for restoring my configuration to a new rootfs, the main problem is that I can't execute it with that multitap keyboard (which will replaced by the script anyway) Mar 23 20:51:32 nice Mar 23 20:51:47 it booted w/o the need for AUX downhold :) Mar 23 20:58:16 (Quick Fix - SSH into your Neo and download This file and put it at /usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash.ppm). << doesn't work for me Mar 23 20:58:37 the grey screen is still in place Mar 23 20:59:06 ack Mar 23 20:59:20 overwrote my gps logs with the recent build Mar 23 20:59:24 how nice of me :( Mar 23 21:01:27 is it normal that when y try to link qemu and the host with pppd, the 2 pppd send data, but never recieve the data from the other side? Mar 23 21:02:26 anyone in here using openmoko with the HTC Magician? Mar 23 21:08:30 ahven: it's /usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-vga.ppm not xsplash.ppm Mar 23 21:08:38 aha Mar 23 21:08:53 thanks Mar 23 21:16:52 kristian-m: You are the man behind pyPenNotes right? What's the stuff with Pearson correlation and all that in pyPenNotes svn and why is it connected to the (two!) "revert to saved" buttons? Mar 23 21:17:11 And why is it there in the svn tag for 0.3b, but not in the 0.3b tar.gz? Mar 23 21:38:09 ScaredyCat: attached a new logfile, same reason for crashing Mar 23 21:45:21 ahven: so it's the sound init that's the problem Mar 23 21:48:40 so the log from an earlier build seems to point to the same place? Mar 23 21:48:41 ** (neod:1206): DEBUG: panel mainmenu sound init Mar 23 21:48:41 ** (neod:1206): DEBUG: mainmenu sound state callback. state = 1 Mar 23 21:48:41 ** (process:1206): DEBUG (recursed)**sound init ok. threaded mainloop started Mar 23 21:48:41 aborting... Mar 23 21:48:41 run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with return code 1006 Mar 23 21:50:50 yeah, I've just added similar lines to the bug, but where mine booted ok Mar 23 21:57:58 got another crash Mar 23 21:58:11 exactly the same as the last attached log Mar 23 21:58:26 umm Mar 23 21:58:43 the same as I posted here Mar 23 21:58:47 pasted* Mar 23 23:01:01 * * OM Bug 1294 has been created by fr-om(AT)tourde.org Mar 23 23:01:02 * * Error building openmoko-devel-image on x86 env (do_rootfs) Mar 23 23:01:03 * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1294 Mar 24 00:08:23 Hi I am running openmoko programs on my Zaursus, for some reason the icons are not showing, what package do I need to install to get them to appear for openmoko-browser2? Mar 24 02:00:15 Hi, have MokoMakefile newbie question. In my ~moko directory, I don't see an $OMHOME/oe directory. Should this exist? If not, how can I get it? Trying to run through the local overlay example, but I am stalled on this detail. Mar 24 02:03:02 local overlay died a while ago I think Mar 24 02:05:14 So I should consider wiki Application_Development_Crash_Course section explaining local overlay to be obsolete? Mar 24 02:05:50 And correction in my question, I meant $OMDIR. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 24 02:59:57 2008