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Apr 18 05:52:37 <maroi> morgen
Apr 18 06:10:53 <CIA-41> freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r214 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (18 files in 2 dirs): 
Apr 18 06:10:53 <CIA-41> freesmartphone.org: Added stubs to libfreesmartphone for the rest of the interfaces
Apr 18 06:10:53 <CIA-41> freesmartphone.org: Signal handlers are now freed in libfreesmartphone
Apr 18 06:33:29 <CIA-41> freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r215 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Export also direct generated glib bindings of fso APIs for those who wish to use them
Apr 18 06:40:21 <LKCm> hello
Apr 18 06:41:14 <LKCm> i just heard about freerunner does anybody know what type of mobile internet it has? 3g or edge
Apr 18 06:45:25 <pyknite> edge
Apr 18 06:45:28 <pyknite> no 3g
Apr 18 06:45:46 <LKCm> hmm ok
Apr 18 06:45:47 <pyknite> there is a poll for 3g in freerunner sucessor
Apr 18 06:47:22 <LKCm> righto
Apr 18 06:48:14 <LKCm> looks like a may have to wait for the freerunner sucessor as there is no good edge network in australia only 3g
Apr 18 06:49:11 <LKCm> i must say i like the look of freerunner and its price
Apr 18 06:49:19 <pyknite> it's not sur, it's not an official poll
Apr 18 06:49:44 <LKCm> is there any company backing open moko?
Apr 18 06:51:17 <pyknite> backing?
Apr 18 06:52:06 <LKCm> giving money/ that ownes openmoko
Apr 18 06:53:07 <pyknite> ahh... no idea
Apr 18 06:54:23 <trickie_> OpenMoko Inc.
Apr 18 06:54:54 <LKCm> righto
Apr 18 07:25:44 <jitu3485> where can i get the latest source of gsmd2
Apr 18 07:26:37 <jitu3485> i am having this one gsmd-snapshot-2007-11-23-for-design-discussion.tar.gz
Apr 18 07:28:09 <jitu3485> spyre:where can i get the latest source of gsmd2
Apr 18 07:28:18 <jitu3485> spyre:i am having this one gsmd-snapshot-2007-11-23-for-design-discussion.tar.gz
Apr 18 07:31:33 <spyre> jitu3485: http://www.freesmartphone.org/mediawiki/index.php/Implementations/GSMD2
Apr 18 07:32:05 <spyre> jitu3485: GSMD2 is in freesmartphone's svn repository, there are instructions how to checkout the project from svn
Apr 18 07:32:17 <spyre> the snapshot you are referring is old and badly outdated
Apr 18 07:40:52 <ScaredyCat> svn://projects.linuxtogo.org/svn/smartphones
Apr 18 08:08:34 <jitu3485> spyre: how to do anonymous checkout of svn code , following instructions on http://www.freesmartphone.org/mediawiki/index.php/Implementations/GSMD2to checkout code says tht following URL doesn't exist
Apr 18 08:12:13 <mjbroek> jitu3485, there is a slash missing in the svn url after 'trunk'
Apr 18 08:12:18 <mjbroek> use svn://projects.linuxtogo.org/svn/smartphones/trunk/software/gsmd2/
Apr 18 08:13:19 <jitu3485> mjbroek thx
Apr 18 08:14:48 <jitu3485> mjbroek its working
Apr 18 08:14:58 <hepaajan> mjbroek: thanks, fixed the missing slash :)
Apr 18 10:54:15 <CIA-41> openmoko: 03thomas * r4375 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/ (ChangeLog data/gtk-2.0/gtkrc): 
Apr 18 10:54:15 <CIA-41> openmoko: 2008-04-18 Thomas Wood <thomas@openedhand.com>
Apr 18 10:54:15 <CIA-41> openmoko:  * data/gtk-2.0/gtkrc: Make labels on inactive tabs slightly darker
Apr 18 10:55:03 <CIA-41> openmoko: 03john_lee * r4376 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-gps/src/openmoko-panel-gps.c: 
Apr 18 10:55:03 <CIA-41> openmoko: change openmoko-panel-gps to notification only
Apr 18 10:55:03 <CIA-41> openmoko: according to
Apr 18 10:55:03 <CIA-41> openmoko: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-April/002506.html
Apr 18 10:55:16 <zedstar> anyone happen to be familiar with glib error stuff got a question?
Apr 18 11:06:06 <robtaylor> zedstar: fire away
Apr 18 11:07:28 <zedstar> in g_set_error i dont really get the point of Quarks....i mean i could just use a enum instead....how is it usually used?
Apr 18 11:16:31 <robtaylor> zedstar: well, you register a quark for your error domain. The reason this isn't an enum is to allow different modules and applications to register error domains without clashing
Apr 18 11:16:45 <robtaylor> (a quark is just a way to map a string to an int)
Apr 18 11:17:31 <robtaylor> zedstar: if you look at the top of the GError documentation in devhelp, there's an example of the standard way to create an error domain
Apr 18 11:19:24 <robtaylor> zedstar: the domain is not the error, its more a scoping for the error. for example take a look at the G_FILE_ERROR documentation
Apr 18 11:21:17 <zedstar> robtaylor thanks......from what ive just read it seems enumeration is ok if u know before hand how many labels u have but with quarks u can add at run time also
Apr 18 11:21:44 <zedstar> robtaylor so could have an enum for the domain the enum for the errors within the domain or just use quarks i guess
Apr 18 11:23:50 <zedstar> robtaylor i should probably use quarks...thanks for the info
Apr 18 11:25:13 <robtaylor> zedstar: no, you're confusing the domain with the error
Apr 18 11:25:41 <robtaylor> zedstar: the domain is the scope of the error code
Apr 18 11:25:55 <zedstar> robtaylor the domain just categorises or groups errors right?
Apr 18 11:26:07 <robtaylor> zedstar: yep, but its a dynamic value
Apr 18 11:26:43 <robtaylor> zedstar: consider dlopening a glib based library that registers an error domain
Apr 18 11:27:03 <zedstar> robtaylor yeh this is the key the dynamic aspect
Apr 18 11:27:20 <robtaylor> basically G_FILE_ERROR (the domain) is a int thats caclulated at runtime. there's no sane way to use anything other than a quark for the error domain
Apr 18 11:27:38 <robtaylor> your error code should be defined with an enum
Apr 18 11:27:40 <zedstar> robtaylor yeh i didnt think of runtime
Apr 18 11:28:36 <zedstar> robtaylor thanks i got it now.....quark for domain and enum for error codes
Apr 18 11:28:46 <robtaylor> zedstar: cool :)
Apr 18 11:29:08 <zedstar> robtaylor cheers
Apr 18 11:35:05 <shaz> when can we get freerunner?
Apr 18 11:35:23 <Basheri> at some time
Apr 18 11:36:23 <shaz> :) any idea what that time will be? any estimated gossip
Apr 18 11:37:07 <thos> second tuesday next week
Apr 18 11:37:33 <CVirus> huh ?
Apr 18 11:37:47 <CVirus> How many Tuesdays are there per week ?
Apr 18 11:38:26 <Basheri> It depends.. If you count the hidden tuesdays - 5
Apr 18 11:40:29 <shaz> ?
Apr 18 11:40:51 <Basheri> no idea
Apr 18 11:41:01 <shaz> :)
Apr 18 11:44:17 <kam1kaze> wtf
Apr 18 11:44:27 <kam1kaze> where is a release ?
Apr 18 11:44:42 <kam1kaze> of GTA02... I just want to get'n'use it
Apr 18 11:44:43 <kam1kaze> ;/
Apr 18 11:58:37 <SpeedEvil> Not yet.
Apr 18 11:58:47 <CIA-41> freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r216 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/libfreesmartphone/ (17 files): Implemented pdp,phonebook,sim,network and device interfaces to libfreesmartphone.
Apr 18 12:01:13 <kam1kaze> ;/
Apr 18 12:01:35 <CM> ScaredyCat: Done that history meme thing yet? :)
Apr 18 12:01:53 <ScaredyCat> ?
Apr 18 12:01:57 * CM noticed hrw's yesterday
Apr 18 12:02:30 <CM> I mean: history | awk '{a[$2]++}END{for(i in a){print a[i] " " i}}' | sort -rn | head
Apr 18 12:02:41 <ScaredyCat> ok 
Apr 18 12:02:42 <CM> Didn't work for me in zsh though.
Apr 18 12:03:05 <CM> ScaredyCat: http://informationhunger.blogspot.com/2008/04/history-in-zsh.html  :D
Apr 18 12:03:35 <ScaredyCat> do I have to remove all the pr0n references manally ;)
Apr 18 12:04:32 <CM> Hehe... All those calls to ascii-pr0n.sh?
Apr 18 12:05:16 <ScaredyCat> :P
Apr 18 12:05:25 <ScaredyCat> well I ran it, but it seems to miss some
Apr 18 12:05:59 <CM> Yeah, history didn't work at all for me, hence the ugly cat | cut thing
Apr 18 12:13:28 <CIA-41> freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r217 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
Apr 18 12:13:28 <CIA-41> freesmartphone.org: Added partial support for configuration file
Apr 18 12:13:28 <CIA-41> freesmartphone.org: Added service file (not tested)
Apr 18 12:22:40 <shaz> My build system got restarted during mtn update while mokomakefile build by make setup. Now what do i need to do. run the make setup again?
Apr 18 12:24:17 <ScaredyCat> done and published CM
Apr 18 12:24:23 <ScaredyCat> 799 votes now btw
Apr 18 12:24:57 <CM> Cool :)
Apr 18 12:25:12 * CM thinks about sneaking a 2:nd vote to even out the numbers
Apr 18 12:26:11 <ScaredyCat> !
Apr 18 12:26:18 * ScaredyCat slaps CM
Apr 18 12:26:35 <ScaredyCat> there are actually 800 - but apparently the admin one doesn;t count :(
Apr 18 12:27:36 <Sup3rkiddo> butta bing..hi all