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May 25 03:15:02 <cdbot2> * * OM Bug 1411 has been created by tick(AT)openmoko.com
May 25 03:15:03 <cdbot2> * * Packagekit reply successful when remove failed
May 25 03:15:04 <cdbot2> * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1411
May 25 03:22:32 <AlgorithmicContr> When will OpenMoko be able to the wholesale public?
May 25 03:23:10 <AlgorithmicContr> available 
May 25 03:23:12 <AlgorithmicContr> *
May 25 03:23:30 <doc|home> AlgorithmicContr: next few weeks
May 25 03:23:44 <AlgorithmicContr> doc|home: Really? Where does it say this?
May 25 03:23:57 <summatusmentis> it doesn't, but it's in mass production right now
May 25 03:23:59 <doc|home> AlgorithmicContr: take a look through the mailing lists, it's in production now.
May 25 03:24:28 * AlgorithmicContr is excited!
May 25 03:24:36 <AlgorithmicContr> What price, do you know?
May 25 03:24:38 * doc|home passes AlgorithmicContr a towel
May 25 03:24:46 <rtm> $399
May 25 03:24:53 <AlgorithmicContr> Not bad.
May 25 03:25:04 <doc|home> $399 for an individual one, 369 if you're part of a group. There's a list of groups on the wiki
May 25 03:25:15 <doc|home> and there are freebies with the group ones
May 25 03:25:19 <doc|home> + taxes of course
May 25 03:25:31 <summatusmentis> oh, I suppose I should remove myself from the list
May 25 03:25:39 <doc|home> !
May 25 03:25:45 <doc|home> bad summatusmentis 
May 25 03:25:51 <doc|home> what happened?
May 25 03:27:30 <rtm> AlgorithmicContr: The $369 price is the per unit price for boxes of 10.
May 25 03:27:32 <summatusmentis> I'm on a contract, have shitty gsm coverage where I need it, and am a poor college student, so I don't have enough money to spend on a hacking toy
May 25 03:28:07 <doc|home> :(
May 25 03:28:17 <summatusmentis> doc|home: I know, I'm bummed out
May 25 03:28:32 <summatusmentis> I'll still hopefully have time to contribute, using qemu
May 25 05:12:27 * Linux_Galore waves
May 25 05:13:11 <Linux_Galore> lastest Meizu M8 (same form factor as iPhone etc) shots look interesting http://www.meizume.com/meizu-news/6310-meizu-m8-ui-changed-again.html
May 25 05:14:21 <Linux_Galore> like how they have moved away from traditional icons to something that is easier to see on a small screen
May 25 05:24:32 <Sup3rkiddo> morning everyone, whats cooking
May 25 05:28:19 <josch> i'm cooking a horse in my backyard
May 25 05:29:36 <mwester> sounds delicious.
May 25 05:33:05 <josch> has XorA|gone completed his ASU image for gta01?
May 25 07:50:27 <ccfly> hello folks :)
May 25 07:51:30 <josch> hi ccfly 
May 25 07:52:51 <Stale> anyone know if the Freerunner will be shipped with airplane or boat?
May 25 08:01:50 <ccfly> nobody knows yet, not even steve ;)
May 25 08:03:37 <holymoly> hehe
May 25 08:03:41 <holymoly> fedex  baby
May 25 08:06:03 <Hopscotch> good morning
May 25 08:10:36 <josch> Stale, as shipment in a freight container would take months, a plane is more propable..
May 25 08:10:49 <josch> morning Hopscotch 
May 25 08:36:18 <rwhitby> ljp: belated pong
May 25 08:50:08 <rwhitby> morning
May 25 08:50:24 * rwhitby returns from weekend camping
May 25 08:50:32 <rwhitby> MokoMakefile still working?
May 25 08:53:58 <CM> rwhitby: Works for me, but exposure-0.0.1+svnr18 seems to be broken
May 25 08:54:19 * CM cheers for git and speed
May 25 08:58:11 <rwhitby> yeah, it's a very noticable difference in update speed
May 25 08:58:44 <CM> Could also be that I have a new computer that's about 4 times faster :)
May 25 09:15:02 <cdbot2> * * OM Bug 1412 has been created by cm(AT)acc.umu.se
May 25 09:15:03 <cdbot2> * * exposure_svn.bb fails to compile 
May 25 09:15:04 <cdbot2> * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1412
May 25 11:01:58 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r9cf4b4a84c22 10/conf/distro/include/ (sane-srcdates.inc sane-srcrevs.inc): [sane-srcrev] Update illume and efl
May 25 11:59:01 <cdbot2> * * OM Bug 1413 has been created by vollseil(AT)arcor.de
May 25 11:59:02 <cdbot2> * * stage do_rootfs fails when running 'make qemu-local'
May 25 11:59:03 <cdbot2> * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1413
May 25 12:18:24 <surf2me> hello
May 25 12:26:26 <surf2me> like many others :) i have the question, when the GTA02 can be bought
May 25 12:28:12 <malik1972> surf2me: be patient
May 25 12:28:51 <surf2me> so, i mean, will it be more this summer or later?
May 25 12:29:38 <malik1972> surf2me: another channel topic says 10th of june +-5 days
May 25 12:30:06 <surf2me> ah, thank you for the information
May 25 12:30:18 <malik1972> surf2me: but since the last weeks, months i learned to ignore such informations:-)
May 25 12:49:15 <d3vice> g'afternonn
May 25 12:49:23 <d3vice> *afternoon
May 25 14:41:20 <roterguru> hi
May 25 14:41:29 <summatusmentis> hi
May 25 14:42:23 <roterguru> will you offer guarantee for the hardware?
May 25 14:42:48 <summatusmentis> no, I won't
May 25 14:42:57 <summatusmentis> but then, I'm not with OpenMoko :)
May 25 14:43:49 <roterguru> will guarantee be offered for neo ? :)
May 25 14:44:19 <summatusmentis> I don't know. I think I read somewhere that there will be some sort of warranty, but I don't know
May 25 14:44:25 <summatusmentis> not buying one :(
May 25 14:44:34 <CVirus> why not ?
May 25 14:45:41 * roterguru likes to know that too
May 25 14:47:58 <summatusmentis> I'm a poor college student, I'm still on a CDMA contract, and where I need cell coverage, there's not good gsm
May 25 14:48:07 <summatusmentis> and I can't afford to buy a hacking toy, at this time
May 25 14:50:00 <summatusmentis> maybe when my contract expires I'll be able to re-evaluate the gsm in the areas I need it, but US gsm is backwards
May 25 14:59:11 <Sup3rkiddo> summatusmentis, *cough*...*cough*.....soc....yeah, right..you are poor
May 25 14:59:29 <summatusmentis> Sup3rkiddo: I need that money for tuition next year
May 25 14:59:42 <summatusmentis> so, while I will have money, it's not expendable
May 25 14:59:44 <Sup3rkiddo> oh....:/...
May 25 14:59:54 * Sup3rkiddo studies on a loan from a bank
May 25 15:00:11 <CVirus> I wanna study in Sweden
May 25 15:00:19 <summatusmentis> yeah :-/ If i could figure out a way to buy a FreeRunner, and actually make it usable, without it sitting on my desk all the time, i totally would
May 25 15:00:41 * Sup3rkiddo wants to study in germany
May 25 15:00:43 <SpeedEvil> sunmm: external USB modem, and duct tape?
May 25 15:00:49 <CVirus> Sup3rkiddo: where are you from ?
May 25 15:00:55 <Sup3rkiddo> CVirus, chennai
May 25 15:01:13 <CVirus> Sup3rkiddo: what do you study ?
May 25 15:01:25 <Sup3rkiddo> CVirus, CS, engineering
May 25 15:01:44 <CVirus> Sup3rkiddo: my friend says that to do a master's degree in germany .. you need at least a GPA of 1.2
May 25 15:01:48 <CVirus> Sup3rkiddo: which year are you ?
May 25 15:02:38 <summatusmentis> CVirus: maybe the GPA system is different in germany, but in the US a 1.2 is not hard to get
May 25 15:02:42 <Sup3rkiddo> CVirus, will be entering into my finally year in a couple of months..my college doesnt have a GPA system, instead performance is gauges by raw average of marks you get
May 25 15:02:55 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.april-update * r22ee467ef455 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [sane-srcrevs] Update opkg, opkg-native, opkg-sdk to 4448
May 25 15:02:56 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.april-update * r91c1c6966fe9 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [sane-srcrevs] Update assassin to 135
May 25 15:02:56 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03walkingice 07org.openmoko.april-update * rccf006918256 10/packages/efl1/etk_cvs.bb: Change default.edj to original-default.edj in etk_cvs.bb
May 25 15:02:57 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.april-update * rac9d16ad2204 10/packages/openmoko-projects/etk-theme-ninja_svn.bb: Add Ninja Theme as default
May 25 15:03:05 <Sup3rkiddo> CVirus, so speaking i have about 70%
May 25 15:03:10 <CVirus> I see
May 25 15:03:43 <CVirus> summatusmentis: 1.2 is really hard to get in germany
May 25 15:03:55 <Sup3rkiddo> :/
May 25 15:03:57 <CVirus> I'm studying at the German University in Cairo
May 25 15:04:07 <CVirus> we follow the same rules
May 25 15:04:13 <summatusmentis> CVirus: is that out of 4.0? or how does it work?
May 25 15:04:26 <CVirus> 0.7 out of 5 is like A+
May 25 15:04:50 <roterguru> CVirus: are you from Germany?
May 25 15:04:54 <CVirus> no .. Egypt
May 25 15:05:08 <CVirus> [17:54] <CVirus> I'm studying at the German University in Cairo
May 25 15:05:13 <summatusmentis> CVirus: is 4.5 out of 5 just unheard of then?
May 25 15:05:20 <roterguru> oh
May 25 15:05:44 <CVirus> summatusmentis: 4.5 out of 5 == kicked out of uni
May 25 15:06:07 <summatusmentis> oh, the other way, 5 being the worst
May 25 15:06:09 <summatusmentis> 0 being he best
May 25 15:06:11 <summatusmentis> the*
May 25 15:06:15 <CVirus> exactly
May 25 15:06:16 <Sup3rkiddo> weird!
May 25 15:06:29 <summatusmentis> that seems weird to me too, but whatever works :)
May 25 15:06:48 <Sup3rkiddo> so imagine, "ma, guess what, i got a 0"
May 25 15:06:54 <CVirus> hehe
May 25 15:07:01 <Sup3rkiddo> not that its any different now ;)
May 25 15:07:02 <CIA-43> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r233a2db4d240 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add call screen
May 25 15:07:05 <CVirus> the least you can get is 0.7
May 25 15:07:30 <summatusmentis> so noone gets 'better' than a 0.7?
May 25 15:07:35 <summatusmentis> why not adjust the scale then?
May 25 15:08:14 <CVirus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPA_in_Germany
May 25 15:09:27 <CVirus> my university is not strictly following the German system
May 25 15:09:35 <summatusmentis> ok, that makes sense
May 25 18:11:47 <CIA-43> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r03d5d265c960 10/src/zhone: Add DBus interface to ophoned
May 25 18:59:25 <woglinde> ~lart kehm
May 25 18:59:25 * apt stuffs kehm into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it
May 25 18:59:29 <woglinde> ups
May 25 19:24:01 <cdbot2> * * OM Bug 1414 has been created by reddog(AT)mastersword.de
May 25 19:24:02 <cdbot2> * * Gllin doesn't restart on resume
May 25 19:24:03 <cdbot2> * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1414
May 25 20:30:27 <CIA-43> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r14ddb45ff487 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Enable the modem and allow PIN entry
May 25 21:24:09 <CIA-43> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r78da5c934584 10/src/zhone: Import the DBusException class
May 25 21:40:47 <bagpuss_thecat> probably obvious... but is SMS supported on GTA02? the header of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Messages and the 'Unresolved Issues' section make it a bit ambigious :-)
May 25 21:44:01 <mickeyl> Unfortunately all the Openmoko 2007.1 application pages in the wiki are misleading
May 25 21:44:14 <mickeyl> gta02 supports sms
May 25 21:45:10 <bagpuss_thecat> superb :-)
May 25 21:46:30 * bagpuss_thecat has decided that he can live without 3G, and as long as SMS and Calls work then all will be good :-p
May 25 21:46:49 <bagpuss_thecat> oh, and usb host mode so I can connect my pocket camera and upload to flickr whilst out and about :-)
May 25 21:48:01 <cdbot2> * * OM Bug 1415 has been created by lackita(AT)gmail.com
May 25 21:48:02 <cdbot2> * * Cannot power on GSM Antenna
May 25 21:48:03 <cdbot2> * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1415
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