**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 07 02:59:56 2008
Jun 07 03:28:18 <ljp> balrog-kun: do you have a debug board?
Jun 07 03:50:32 <balrog-kun> ljp: yes, i already forced the new u-boot on the device though :)
Jun 07 03:51:39 <balrog-kun> uploaded to ram through dfu and told the old u-boot to copy the ram to nand and it didn't complain
Jun 07 03:52:19 <balrog-kun> just though it was funny that device didn't think it was any particular gta02 version
Jun 07 06:38:33 <bkruse> ScaredyCat: hey!
Jun 07 08:02:49 <Hopscotch> good morning
Jun 07 08:03:53 * bkruse looks at clock
Jun 07 09:16:15 <cyrilRomain> FYI, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Partition is out of sync with current partitions size
Jun 07 09:47:22 <LionKMP> can someone please help: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc  (MokoMakefile make openmoko-devel-image and bitbake openmoko-devel-image results in this after some hours.
Jun 07 09:48:06 <LionKMP> module-init-tools-cross-3.2.2-r3: task 
Jun 07 09:49:35 <LionKMP> logfile of the error: http://pastebin.com/m4fc437e0
Jun 07 10:29:42 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.dev * rdd9a55bca470 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add the sums for libid3tag (different uri)
Jun 07 10:29:42 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.dev * r5bf67917b9a0 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add the sums for iptables 1.3.8
Jun 07 10:29:43 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.dev * r69e1e5594844 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [srcdate] Build a more recent version of efl (crashes are gone)
Jun 07 12:32:28 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: other people had more luck booting the openmoko-fso image on kaiser then me. They reported they see something round like a logo while booting (psplash obviously) and after it a freeze with graphical errors: Black screen with dots. Looks like X11 is not configured properly for the machine
Jun 07 12:32:50 <dcordes> http://linuxtogo.org/%7Elgorris/kaiser/special-initrd.zip that's the image
Jun 07 12:33:29 <woglinde> dcordes there is no serial konsole support or sshd running on the kaiser?
Jun 07 12:36:06 <dcordes> woglinde: no networking yet unforunately
Jun 07 12:37:06 <woglinde> hm
Jun 07 12:37:28 <bedboi> any news on the ASU front?
Jun 07 12:37:40 <dcordes> woglinde: what could I try in the X configuration?
Jun 07 12:38:19 <woglinde> dcordes sorry dont know
Jun 07 12:38:42 <dcordes> woglinde: did you ever com across such an issue while starting X?
Jun 07 12:39:10 <dcordes> the console text draws just fine
Jun 07 12:39:23 <dcordes> fbcon
Jun 07 12:40:05 <woglinde> dcordes without seeing the logfiles many things can occur
Jun 07 12:50:11 <dcordes> woglinde: I could only view them on device
Jun 07 12:50:45 <dcordes> maybe I could add a timer to the initscript which kills X and falls back to fbcon
Jun 07 12:51:54 <dcordes> at least we have a full blown keyboard
Jun 07 12:56:29 <woglinde> dcordes yes or rerwite the startup scrip
Jun 07 12:56:37 <woglinde> so x will not start at all
Jun 07 12:58:36 <dcordes> woglinde: ok I first need to get it booting on my own kaiser
Jun 07 12:58:45 <dcordes> I can't tell a windows mobile user to debug it for me ;)
Jun 07 12:58:56 <woglinde> +g*
Jun 07 12:59:49 <dcordes> does somebody know where I can find screenshots or videos of the bread and butter fso image?
Jun 07 13:12:58 <CVirus> I want the crash tests videos
Jun 07 13:13:57 <cyrilRomain> doh! http://docs.openmoko.org/ is down. Please install pyPgSQL on the server :}
Jun 07 13:14:37 <CVirus> hehe
Jun 07 14:40:07 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke * rcf1c5cb0bd17 10/src/server/phone/serverinterface/phonelauncher/ (phonelauncher_illume.cpp phonelauncher_illume.h): [dialer] The dialer was not shown anymore, fix the regression
Jun 07 14:40:08 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke * r1d293a920221 10/src/server/phone/serverinterface/phonelauncher/phonelauncher_illume.cpp: [illume] Use the right header file
Jun 07 15:23:24 <Blastur> is there a way to lookup what kind of device a certain FCC id is?
Jun 07 15:24:41 <abraxa__> Blastur: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm
Jun 07 15:25:34 <Blastur> great, thanks
Jun 07 16:31:03 <SpeedEvil> CEO of ARM on radio 4 now
Jun 07 16:31:10 <SpeedEvil> on a discussion on moores law
Jun 07 16:53:11 <ccfly> hello folks ! :)
Jun 07 16:53:27 <ccfly> congratulations on freerunner birth
Jun 07 16:56:40 <abraxa__> ccfly: Did Steve announce start of MP?
Jun 07 17:01:21 <buz> he said something about cleared for MP on thursday
Jun 07 17:02:53 <CIA-43> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r4381d66a4d7d 10/oeventd/modules/trigger.py: Fix signal setup if ophoned is not yet ready
Jun 07 17:07:21 <ccfly> last news say he's got a approval for start of one
Jun 07 17:07:32 <ccfly> when does it begin is a matter of days probably
Jun 07 17:07:44 <abraxa__> We can hope :)
Jun 07 17:18:48 <jan__> hi everyone
Jun 07 17:25:40 <abraxa__> Hallo jan__ 
Jun 07 17:28:03 <ohin> it's new trend to have two underscores after nick?
Jun 07 17:28:30 <blast__> yeah, it is
Jun 07 17:28:43 <Sup3rkiddo__> yeah it is
Jun 07 17:29:38 <oh__> ok, so now i'm "IN" 8-)
Jun 07 17:37:16 <Sup3rkiddo> that was lame
Jun 07 17:39:44 * balrog-kun see a light at the end of the Glamo tunnel
Jun 07 17:40:17 <balrog-kun> it's a bit disturbed at the moment
Jun 07 17:41:52 <abraxa__> XorA|gone: Are you really gone?
Jun 07 17:42:51 <Mammux> I have a problem with the Mokomakefile. I'm trying to add the updated erlang packages by Tony. However, it seems to attempt to build one of the packages for the building host architecture: 
Jun 07 17:42:53 <Mammux> | make[4]: Entering directory `/home/magnus/moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/erlang-R11B.5-r0/otp_src_R11B-5/erts/emulator'
Jun 07 17:42:53 <Mammux> | make[4]: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/Makefile: No such file or directory
Jun 07 17:42:53 <Mammux> | make[4]: *** No rule to make target `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/Makefile'.  Stop.
Jun 07 17:43:09 <Mammux> Any ideas what may cause this?
Jun 07 17:52:53 <juri_> it'd be really nice if i could force my openmoko to associate, instead of just rebooting it N number of times.
Jun 07 17:53:02 <juri_> (where N is between 1 and 20!)
Jun 07 17:54:29 <juri_> wake up.. find my openmoko dead, attatched to USB. (failed to charge last night?).. reboot it. reboot again. reboot AGAIN..
Jun 07 17:54:51 <abraxa__> juri_: What do you mean by "associate"?
Jun 07 17:55:04 <juri_> it fails to ever register with the ATNT network.
Jun 07 17:55:17 <juri_> ok, this time it worked.
Jun 07 17:55:55 <juri_> a dropped phone call last weekend cost me $1200. my bloody openmoko wouldnt register with towers reliably in dallas.
Jun 07 17:56:09 <abraxa__> Maybe you live in an area where 950MHz support is scarce
Jun 07 17:56:31 <mjr> you mean 1900
Jun 07 17:56:31 <juri_> thats the theory from last time. theres a problem with that.
Jun 07 17:56:43 <juri_> rebooting shouldnt *fix* it.
Jun 07 17:56:43 <abraxa__> mjr: Maybe, I always get them mixed up :)
Jun 07 17:57:05 <juri_> i've got lots of bars. i NEVER lose service. how can this be a "not enough service" problem>
Jun 07 17:57:21 <juri_> now that its associated, i'll have good service all day.
Jun 07 17:57:50 <juri_> but GETTING it to associate can take a half hour of effort, here in my local area. getting it to work in dallas was impossible.
Jun 07 17:58:07 <abraxa__> Well, there's a big chance that there are bugs in the system
Jun 07 17:58:16 <abraxa__> Are you using 2007.2?
Jun 07 17:58:21 <juri_> which is why i'm here, to report them. :)
Jun 07 17:58:29 <juri_> i'm using what was updated last tuesday.
Jun 07 17:58:35 <juri_> (i keep my unit up to date)
Jun 07 17:58:47 <abraxa__> Where do you get your images from?
Jun 07 17:59:05 <juri_> i don't. i use 'opkg update; opkg upgrade'
Jun 07 17:59:27 <abraxa__> Oh.
Jun 07 17:59:36 <juri_> the last flash on this was about a month ago, to recover from a b0rk3d upgrade.
Jun 07 17:59:47 <juri_> and that was using SVN HEAD.
Jun 07 18:00:42 <juri_> i'm testing this thing every day. is there a bugtraq or something i should be using to report issues i've found?
Jun 07 18:00:45 <abraxa__> Well, the best kind of bug report you can do is to use GSM manually and let us know what the modem says goes wrong when trying to register
Jun 07 18:01:11 <abraxa__> I'm afraid stuff like "it registers sometimes" doesn't provide enough information
Jun 07 18:01:40 <abraxa__> For bug reporting there's http://bugzilla.openmoko.org but it's broken for a few hours now
Jun 07 18:01:41 <juri_> ok, i'll take that. -ENOINFO. i get it. but the last bug i reported here no-one even bothered to track either. i'm getting annoyed, cause i tracked that one down to the line "responsible".
Jun 07 18:02:06 <juri_> maybe i'm too IRC centric.
Jun 07 18:02:08 <abraxa__> juri_: That is a problem indeed. 
Jun 07 18:02:35 <juri_> sorry, i'm in a bad mood, due to this bug having majorly impacted my personal life. :/
Jun 07 18:02:46 <abraxa__> I'm not sure why that is but people in taiwan don't seem to care about the bugzilla as much as they should.
Jun 07 18:02:46 <juri_> it cost me a free fricking car. :/
Jun 07 18:03:11 <abraxa__> Yeah, I can imagine - though at the same time you should've known better, too ;)
Jun 07 18:03:33 <juri_> i didnt expect the bug to get worse when i went to a MORE civilized area.
Jun 07 18:03:48 <juri_> my 'home' is northwest arkansas. i went to dallas, and my openmoko became a brick!
Jun 07 18:04:21 <juri_> i think you can agree, that behavior was non-intuitive. :)
Jun 07 18:04:31 <abraxa__> Depends
Jun 07 18:05:08 <abraxa__> It's somewhat expected when knowing that it's really only tri-band GSM and doesn't cover one of the frequences most often used in the US
Jun 07 18:06:24 <juri_> well, i'd still love it if openmoko supported a ring tone that wasn't fixed to 1.5 seconds in length. :)
Jun 07 18:06:56 <juri_> its easy to hunt down the line responsible, too.
Jun 07 18:07:20 <juri_> not that i have a solution (a way to get data there without recompiling)... but a hard coded ringtone length sucks.
Jun 07 18:07:25 <abraxa__> Considering that 2007.2 is outdated I'd say that this issue might already be taken care of
Jun 07 18:07:50 <juri_> <grumbles at taiwan>
Jun 07 18:08:20 <abraxa__> We've all been there at one point or another ;)
Jun 07 18:13:29 <abraxa__> jOERG_rw: Are you currently in Taiwan?
Jun 07 18:27:48 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: ping
Jun 07 18:35:31 <Sup3rkiddo> yay..netsplit
Jun 07 18:49:44 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: I got openmoko-fso booting on my kaiser. the 'dots' people saw are X11 background. only a few seconds after booting it fills the upper third the screen. rest is black. I think X somehow errors while initializing
Jun 07 18:54:29 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: now it showed also the psplash partly, then again freezed in partly X11 background screen. It seems like it boots reliably with a more recent version of the bootloader so I'm able to debug it now
Jun 07 18:54:52 <mickey|zzZZzz> dcordes: ok, good news
Jun 07 18:55:09 <mickey|zzZZzz> i'd remove psplash
Jun 07 18:55:48 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: how?
Jun 07 18:56:08 <mickey|zzZZzz> well, it shouldn't be included in the first place, actually :/
Jun 07 18:56:19 <mickey|zzZZzz> just rm /etc/init.d/psplash for the time being
Jun 07 18:58:33 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: ok anything else I could do now to enable debugging? Remember I can't get any files in/out of the system. Everything that goes in comes in the initrd
Jun 07 19:00:08 <mickey|zzZZzz> export VERBOSE="very"
Jun 07 19:00:12 <mickey|zzZZzz> in /etc/profile
Jun 07 19:00:19 <mickey|zzZZzz> so you might get some more information during sysinit
Jun 07 19:00:30 <jan__> Is there someone around to give me some advise on getting qemu running?
Jun 07 19:00:34 <mickey|zzZZzz> if that doesn't help, the only sane thing is booting with initlevel 3 and then logging in via usbnet
Jun 07 19:00:48 <mickey|zzZZzz> and running X manually
Jun 07 19:00:56 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: no usb. Woglinde suggested yesterday to not start X automatically
Jun 07 19:01:03 <mickey|zzZZzz> right
Jun 07 19:01:08 <mickey|zzZZzz> edit inittab then
Jun 07 19:01:13 <mickey|zzZZzz> or change CMDLINE to kernel
Jun 07 19:01:31 <mickey|zzZZzz> to boot in runlevel 3
Jun 07 19:01:43 <mickey|zzZZzz> how to go from there without usb i dunno
Jun 07 19:01:46 <mickey|zzZZzz> do you have serial access?
Jun 07 19:01:51 <dcordes> nada
Jun 07 19:01:57 <mickey|zzZZzz> heh
Jun 07 19:01:59 <mickey|zzZZzz> that's bad
Jun 07 19:02:03 <mickey|zzZZzz> you don't have _any_ access?
Jun 07 19:02:04 <dcordes> yes
Jun 07 19:02:04 <balrog-kun> jan__: what kind of?
Jun 07 19:02:08 <dcordes> no
Jun 07 19:02:39 <mickey|zzZZzz> hmm, then i'm out of ideas actually
Jun 07 19:02:46 <jan__> system: Fedora 9, 64 bits
Jun 07 19:02:47 <jan__> First I tried to follow the instructions at:
Jun 07 19:02:49 <jan__> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_QEMU_with_MokoMakefile
Jun 07 19:02:50 <jan__> Results:
Jun 07 19:02:51 <jan__> - previously: erroneous windows manager.
Jun 07 19:02:53 <jan__> - now: crash X-server?
Jun 07 19:02:55 <jan__>   IN FUNCTION: ecore_event_handler_del()
Jun 07 19:02:57 <jan__>   Input handle pointer is NULL!
Jun 07 19:02:58 <jan__>   Openmoko P1-Snapshot-20080522 om-gta01
Jun 07 19:03:00 <jan__> Next:
Jun 07 19:03:01 <jan__> Tried manual setup as described in:
Jun 07 19:03:03 <jan__> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qemu
Jun 07 19:03:04 <mickey|zzZZzz> dcordes: i would concentrate on getting serial or usb running
Jun 07 19:03:04 <jan__> Results:
Jun 07 19:03:06 <jan__> - crash X-server? Similar as above.
Jun 07 19:03:07 <jan__> Next:
Jun 07 19:03:09 <jan__> Tried building Openmoko with MokoMakeFile:
Jun 07 19:03:10 <jan__> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile
Jun 07 19:03:12 <jan__> Results:
Jun 07 19:03:13 <mickey|zzZZzz> without it, debug turnarounds are insane
Jun 07 19:03:13 <jan__> | FATAL: oe_runmake failed
Jun 07 19:03:22 <mickey|zzZZzz> or wifi or any network
Jun 07 19:03:30 <balrog-kun> jan__: you mean guest Xserver right?
Jun 07 19:03:35 <mickey|zzZZzz> bbiab, watching soccer :)
Jun 07 19:03:46 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: wifi would be most useful
Jun 07 19:03:51 <balrog-kun> ewwww soccer :p
Jun 07 19:04:05 <jan__> I mean the Xserver in qemu (guest I suppose)
Jun 07 19:04:51 <balrog-kun> jan__: ok, well i heard there's some issue with slightly less flash memory beign available in qemu than on neo,
Jun 07 19:05:05 <balrog-kun> i don't know if that can cause X to crash
Jun 07 19:05:20 <balrog-kun> but is the only think that comes to my mind
Jun 07 19:05:22 <balrog-kun> thing
Jun 07 19:05:41 <jan__> That's well possible, I saw just on top of the screen a remark about memory
Jun 07 19:05:52 <dcordes> mickey|zzZZzz: what would I do with inittab to prevent X from starting?
Jun 07 19:06:06 <jan__> I do not know how to scroll back
Jun 07 19:06:08 <balrog-kun> jan__: do you have a way to dump something from the image?
Jun 07 19:06:34 <balrog-kun> dcordes: where it says :5: you may need to put :3:
Jun 07 19:06:55 <balrog-kun> dcordes: the other way is remove /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm or one of the links to it
Jun 07 19:07:47 <jan__> balrog-kun: Sorry, I'm just starting with openmoko and qemu.
Jun 07 19:07:49 <jan__> balrog-kun: What do you mean by 'do you have a way to dump something from the image'
Jun 07 19:07:58 <Sup3rkiddo> its football!...soccer is too yankee
Jun 07 19:08:34 <balrog-kun> jan__: if you're building your own openmoko images then you probably have a way to choose which packages you want there and which you don't need
Jun 07 19:08:53 <balrog-kun> if you're downloadin the stock images then they're more difficult to alter
Jun 07 19:10:43 <jan__> balrog-kun: I tried to build openmoko, but the build process failed:
Jun 07 19:10:44 <jan__> | FATAL: oe_runmake failed
Jun 07 19:10:46 <jan__> NOTE: Task failed: /home/jan/Projects/OPENMOKO/moko/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/gmp-native-4.2.1-r2/temp/log.do_compile.31046
Jun 07 19:10:47 <jan__> NOTE: package gmp-native-4.2.1-r2: task do_compile: failed
Jun 07 19:10:49 <jan__> ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting
Jun 07 19:10:50 <jan__> NOTE: package gmp-native-4.2.1: failed
Jun 07 19:10:52 <jan__> ERROR: Build of /home/jan/Projects/OPENMOKO/moko/openembedded/packages/gmp/gmp-native_4.2.1.bb do_compile failed
Jun 07 19:10:54 <jan__> ERROR: Task 1191 (/home/jan/Projects/OPENMOKO/moko/openembedded/packages/gmp/gmp-native_4.2.1.bb, do_compile) failed
Jun 07 19:10:55 <jan__> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 246 tasks of which 246 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed.
Jun 07 19:10:57 <jan__> ERROR: '/home/jan/Projects/OPENMOKO/moko/openembedded/packages/gmp/gmp-native_4.2.1.bb' failed
Jun 07 19:10:59 <jan__> make: *** [openmoko-devel-image] Error 1
Jun 07 19:11:56 <edistar_> jan__: nopaste.org
Jun 07 19:12:00 <balrog-kun> uh okay
Jun 07 19:12:17 <balrog-kun> jan__: oe is black magic to me
Jun 07 19:12:39 <balrog-kun> but the part you pasted doesnt contain the significant error message
Jun 07 19:13:04 <jan__> edistar_: Sorry, thanks for the pointer.
Jun 07 19:13:22 <edistar_> jan__: :)
Jun 07 19:31:12 <jan__> balrog-kun: I checked the log file, but could not determine what the significant error messages is.
Jun 07 19:31:14 <jan__> nopaste.org gives me an 'internal server error', so I can't paste the log...
Jun 07 19:31:36 <abraxa__> ~pastebin
Jun 07 19:31:37 <apt_> [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste
Jun 07 19:31:37 <zash> jan__: try my p.zash.se
Jun 07 19:32:00 <anrp> that's ... minimalist
Jun 07 19:32:04 * anrp almost thought it didn't even work
Jun 07 19:32:13 * zash is minimalist
Jun 07 19:32:31 <balrog-kun> neat :)
Jun 07 19:32:53 <edistar_> zash: nice design!
Jun 07 19:33:16 <zash> :D
Jun 07 19:33:36 <edistar_> zash: I like the idea
Jun 07 19:35:27 <fenfir> it doesn't like me, it rejected the link i pasted in cause it happend to be in my clipboard : (
Jun 07 19:35:46 <fenfir> minimalist ftw
Jun 07 19:36:30 <jan__> balrog-kun: for the last part of the log see: http://pastebin.com/d65c82143
Jun 07 19:39:03 <balrog-kun> jan__: doesn't tell me much i'm afraid, i'd try to just not build gmp or anything depending on it i guess
Jun 07 19:39:35 <balrog-kun> especially weird that it thinks there definitions are in assert.c and vsscanf.c which i'm sure they aren't
Jun 07 19:39:52 <thseiler> Quick question: Is there somewhere am image of ASU that runs on Neo1973? 
Jun 07 19:42:55 <balrog-kun> thseiler: there are images on the buildhost that are supposed to run on neo1973
Jun 07 19:43:09 <balrog-kun> but i heard no reports of success yet
Jun 07 20:04:42 <bkruse> ScaredyCat: you there?
Jun 07 21:15:42 <CVirus> Halleluja
Jun 07 21:22:26 <tomboy64> thanks for the welcome
Jun 07 21:22:33 <tomboy64> i feel honoured
Jun 07 22:09:27 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke * rbfd35e847f3d 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [illume] Remove more services, disable more at build time
Jun 07 22:09:27 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke * r493cd88e1854 10/src/server/server.pro: [illume] virtualkeyboardservice gets used by dialer.xml to send the keynumbers
Jun 07 22:09:28 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke * rcdae24c631c5 10/BUGS.x11: Add a list of known bugs
Jun 07 22:11:21 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * ra8b7341d40d6 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [sane-srcrevs] Update opkg to 4465
Jun 07 22:11:22 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r079d3a687f71 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [sane-srcrevs] Update exposure to 25
Jun 07 22:11:23 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rcfb3ef4dce54 10/packages/packagekit/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [packagekit] Add 2 patched for packagekit.
Jun 07 22:11:23 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r421cc20206fb 10/packages/packagekit/ (files/03_group_infomation.patch packagekit_git.bb): [packagekit] Add patch to packagekit.
Jun 07 22:11:26 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03graeme 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r9622def00d07 10/packages/ipkg-utils/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ipkg-utils-native_1.6+cvs20050404.bb : rejig patches to renable Size:
Jun 07 22:11:29 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r6c45e88d2cdf 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [illume] Update to r111
Jun 07 22:11:32 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r9bd8eb29a97e 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [qtopia] Upgrade to get a version with some new dbus interfaces needed for exposure
Jun 07 22:11:35 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r24c8e0c0e3fd 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [sane-srcrevs] update diversity-nav to 391
Jun 07 22:11:38 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rafa1631b4824 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [sane-srcrevs] Update Assassin to 141
Jun 07 22:11:45 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r36d58947d057 10/packages/openmoko-projects/diversity-nav_svn.bb: [diversity] Change Tag of diversity-nav
Jun 07 22:11:48 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03graeme 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r6c0a48718ed6 10/packages/qtopia-phone/qtopia-phone-x11_4.3.1.bb: [qtopia-phone-x11] RDEPEND on dejavu-sans as without the font qpe segfaults
Jun 07 22:11:51 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r4efb6c9c3349 10/packages/qtopia-phone/ (qtopia-phone-x11_4.3.1.bb qtopia-phone-x11_git.bb): [qtopia] We can now properly name the source directory do so
Jun 07 22:11:56 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r551ff160dd3a 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Stable kernel upgrade
Jun 07 22:11:59 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rde3001ffd94e 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [qtopia] Qtopia upgrade. Various server changes, fix the installpic script
Jun 07 22:12:02 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rc1198d6f6bd0 10/conf/distro/openmoko.conf: [openmoko] Modify the hint of building information.
Jun 07 22:12:07 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r18e8511662ef 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [sane-srcrevs] Bump the revision of diversity-nav to 421
Jun 07 22:12:07 <kdean06> Whoa.
Jun 07 22:12:10 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r15bc654e3e9e 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [diversity] Add splinter.
Jun 07 22:12:13 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rd98a3be298b4 10/packages/tasks/task-openmoko-feed.bb: [openmoko] Add splinter into openmoko-feed
Jun 07 22:12:18 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r30aeafaf8645 10/packages/tasks/task-openmoko-qtopia-x11.bb: [openmoko] Splinter replaced diversity-nav in task-openmoko-qtopia-x11
Jun 07 22:12:21 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r8a835d9755f6 10/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [openmoko] Remove Tag of enlazar-qh, kobodeluxe
Jun 07 22:12:24 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r52f8d7fd718e 10/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [openmoko] add Openmoko community repository bbfile.
Jun 07 22:12:29 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r496702337d8e 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add the sums for iptables 1.3.8
Jun 07 22:12:30 <kdean06> Are they having a hackathon or did a bot just run an overdue cron job?
Jun 07 22:12:32 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r307fcf176286 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add the sums for libid3tag (different uri)
Jun 07 22:12:35 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r2bd049c03c1e 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [qtopia] Build a more recent version of Qtopia
Jun 07 22:17:12 <SpeedEvil> What's the current browser on ASU?
Jun 07 22:17:26 <SpeedEvil> And how does it deal with javascirpt/svg
Jun 07 22:19:03 <kdean06> There's no browser in any of the snapshots I've used.
Jun 07 22:19:07 <kdean06> I don't know what's planned.
Jun 07 22:19:09 <SpeedEvil> K
Jun 07 22:19:14 <CIA-43> openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.dev * rfed468047569 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [qtopia] Build a more recent version of Qtopia
Jun 07 22:23:18 <SpeedEvil> Can I use gtk stuff in the ASU image, or is it QT only?
Jun 07 22:43:16 <balrog-k1n> yes, you can
Jun 07 22:44:08 <cb22> O-o
Jun 07 22:44:22 <cb22> with hsdpa and wifi on, my nokia e51 uses 0.6a
Jun 07 22:44:38 <cb22> normally, with gsm and wifi off, it uses about 0.1a
Jun 07 22:59:06 <CVirus> is OM related to Duke Nukem Forever ?
Jun 07 23:07:07 <tomboy64> well, the freerunner is almost released ... so any resemblance to dnf has gone :-P
Jun 07 23:12:37 <CVirus> I haven't got mine yet
Jun 07 23:13:26 <tomboy64> a pity :-P
Jun 07 23:13:57 <SpeedEvil> It's 'released' when the hundredth buyer has gotten theirs IMO.
Jun 07 23:14:08 <tomboy64> uh?
Jun 07 23:14:20 <tomboy64> ain't there already 100+ frs out there?
Jun 07 23:14:36 <SpeedEvil> Not actual purchased ones.
Jun 07 23:14:51 <SpeedEvil> And none of the final hardware are out there.
Jun 07 23:14:59 <SpeedEvil> prereleases aren't sales.
Jun 07 23:16:06 <tomboy64> ;)
Jun 07 23:22:01 <CVirus> SpeedEvil: have you got yours yet ?
Jun 07 23:22:09 <SpeedEvil> CVirus: no
Jun 07 23:22:24 <CVirus> I can't wait any longer .. seriously
Jun 07 23:22:54 <CVirus> I'm reading that book "Designing for Small Screens" .. hoping to start writing an application for OM
Jun 07 23:23:29 <abraxa_> CVirus: You can start now on your desktop if you want
Jun 07 23:24:31 <CVirus> sure
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