**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 21 02:59:56 2008
Jun 21 07:48:05 <Hopscotch> good monring
Jun 21 07:52:11 <mbuf> Hopscotch, morning
Jun 21 08:40:55 <rhyhann> Hi
Jun 21 08:41:26 <rhyhann> Is it planned to make a CDMA freerunner ?
Jun 21 08:41:53 <buz> i dont think so
Jun 21 08:42:31 <rhyhann> OK
Jun 21 08:44:49 <buz> besides, since you cant simply hookup CDMA devices to the network, it would be kinda hard to sell
Jun 21 08:45:49 <rhyhann> I don't really want to change my operator because of a mobile
Jun 21 08:45:49 <rhyhann> And, in my country, the only operator which doesn't steal our money uses CDMA
Jun 21 08:46:07 <rhyhann> OK, buz
Jun 21 08:46:33 <buz> well you operator would have to activate the CDMA phone for you
Jun 21 08:46:37 <buz> which is highly unlikely
Jun 21 08:46:53 <rhyhann> :)
Jun 21 08:47:17 <rhyhann> So I think that my next cellphone will be an Android, sorry :(
Jun 21 08:49:00 <rhyhann> The FreeRunner was very interesting because of its Ruby SDK
Jun 21 09:53:31 <PBeck> ahoi
Jun 21 10:39:08 <Drakou> Hi everybody
Jun 21 10:39:52 <Drakou> I am looking for the guy who is in charge of the Atheros AR6000 driver at openmoko
Jun 21 10:40:23 <Drakou> I am using the same chipset and i would like to ask him some questions about his experience of this chip
Jun 21 10:40:33 <Drakou> According to the svn, his nickname is sameo
Jun 21 10:44:55 <stefan_schmidt> Drakou: Samuel Ortiz O-hand employee. Best to ask on the openmoko-kernel ml and cc him
Jun 21 10:50:46 <Drakou> Thank you stefan_schmidt , I will contact him. 
Jun 21 10:51:17 <stefan_schmidt> Drakou: As I said. Best is over the ml as you will perhaps get more help from other people there.
Jun 21 10:52:49 <Drakou> ok i will suscribe the ml
Jun 21 11:23:43 <d3vice> g'morning
Jun 21 11:33:18 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * rb0cb8e374492 10/odeviced/src/plugins/power/ (power.c power.vala): Remove timers when polling is to be stopped
Jun 21 11:33:18 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * re9b5ee181dfd 10/odeviced/src/daemon/helpers.vala: Reverted read_integer to use FileStream
Jun 21 11:33:19 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * rb64071134bc4 10/odeviced/src/daemon/helpers.vala: read_string returns null on failure
Jun 21 11:33:20 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r6e2dcbe03b84 10/odeviced/src/plugins/backlight/ (backlight.c backlight.vala): simple change in the ordering of the if-else clause in SetBacklightPower
Jun 21 11:33:23 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r325801281c81 10/odeviced/src/plugins/power/ (power.c power.vala): Enable polling if and only if certain sysfs leaves are present, fixes redundant callbacks
Jun 21 11:33:26 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * raa86e2559131 10/odeviced/docs/PLUGINS.txt: Sync docs with the current tree
Jun 21 11:33:29 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * rd001bc7b7c38 10/odeviced/src/daemon/helpers.vala: add compute_name helper
Jun 21 11:33:32 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r9b5bc01afdaf 10/odeviced/src/plugins/ (6 files in 2 dirs): added GetName
Jun 21 12:54:27 <strahler> hi there. I need a very, very small Snapshot of Openmoko. Actual size of an snapshot is about 53MB. Is there a way to get it much more down?
Jun 21 12:56:02 <strahler> i need no applications or something else, just the basic functionality
Jun 21 12:57:45 <mbuf> strahler, build the console-image?
Jun 21 12:59:38 <strahler> to do this, I have to change the MokoMakeFile and build it?
Jun 21 13:00:51 <mmu_man> lol
Jun 21 13:01:00 <mmu_man> Haiku's sources are like 700MB :p
Jun 21 13:01:26 <mbuf> strahler, no; IIRC; there should be a target for console-image
Jun 21 13:05:16 <strahler> mbuf, thanks!
Jun 21 14:34:39 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03daniel * r82c318b85925 10/ophoned/objects.py: python-ophoned: Fix SimUnlock method invocation
Jun 21 14:53:22 <tomboy64> i want my fr
Jun 21 14:53:25 <tomboy64> and i want it now :(
Jun 21 15:11:12 <CIA-45> openmoko: 03tick * r4491 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/args.c: 
Jun 21 15:11:12 <CIA-45> openmoko: opkg: let args_init return 0 is successful
Jun 21 15:11:12 <CIA-45> openmoko:  returns errno if some error happens
Jun 21 15:19:12 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03daniel * r62ca8f893261 10/ (data/themes/zhone.edc src/zhone): 
Jun 21 15:19:12 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: zhone: Add support for PUKs and fix some of the PIN logic, including:
Jun 21 15:19:12 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org:  * Fix transition to PIN/PUK if they are required after startup
Jun 21 15:19:12 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org:  * Check whether PIN or PUK is really needed (as opposed to havine no SIM Card)
Jun 21 15:19:12 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org:  * Transition from PIN to PUK dialog if needed
Jun 21 15:28:45 <xzcvczx> has anyone got a gps logfile?
Jun 21 15:29:09 <SpeedEvil> Yes.
Jun 21 15:29:12 <SpeedEvil> Yes, I have.
Jun 21 15:29:29 <SpeedEvil> Any GPS, or neo1973, or freerunner, or GTA04?
Jun 21 15:29:52 <SpeedEvil> And what sort of logfile?
Jun 21 15:30:10 <xzcvczx> GTA04 sounds nice :P
Jun 21 15:30:24 <xzcvczx> 1973.... raw would be nice
Jun 21 15:30:30 <balrog-kun> openstreetmap.org/traces has some
Jun 21 15:30:40 <balrog-kun> oh, but not raw
Jun 21 15:31:31 <xzcvczx> well as in the nmea data
Jun 21 15:31:44 <xzcvczx> i just need stuff to pipe into gpsfake
Jun 21 15:32:00 <xzcvczx> as my phone is currently too flat to turn on so i cant access the logfiles on the memory card
Jun 21 15:32:26 <SpeedEvil> DCC work dor you?
Jun 21 15:32:46 <xzcvczx> you can try but i would doubt it
Jun 21 15:33:01 <xzcvczx> you know how to use scp?
Jun 21 15:33:03 <balrog-kun> qemu can generate nmea resembling the gta01 output live :)
Jun 21 15:33:14 <xzcvczx> dont have qemu installed :S
Jun 21 15:34:18 <balrog-kun> or i can upload some real gta01 output, but SpeedEvil will be quicker :)
Jun 21 15:34:25 <SpeedEvil> Guess not.
Jun 21 15:34:25 <SpeedEvil> (dcc)
Jun 21 15:34:34 <balrog-kun> because he's *speed* evil
Jun 21 15:34:36 <SpeedEvil> http://www.mauve.plus.com/1208425732gps.g
Jun 21 15:34:38 <SpeedEvil> z
Jun 21 15:34:47 <SpeedEvil> 1208688950gps.gz
Jun 21 15:34:57 <SpeedEvil> Don't slashdot them :)
Jun 21 15:36:01 <xzcvczx> thanks SpeedEvil just digg'd and /.'d them for you :)
Jun 21 15:36:44 <zedstar_> with headline "speedevil naked"
Jun 21 15:37:23 <xzcvczx> SpeedEvil: errr i am getting unexpected EOF
Jun 21 15:37:59 <xzcvczx> on both of them strangely enough
Jun 21 15:38:03 <SpeedEvil> Odd.
Jun 21 15:38:07 <SpeedEvil> You mean on the gz?
Jun 21 15:38:10 <xzcvczx> yeah
Jun 21 15:38:14 <SpeedEvil> Meh.
Jun 21 15:38:25 <SpeedEvil> zcat file >output
Jun 21 15:38:32 <SpeedEvil> I think that's as the neo shutdown uncleanly both times
Jun 21 15:39:13 <mjr> that'll do it for you
Jun 21 15:39:29 <xzcvczx> no luck with zcat either :S
Jun 21 15:39:46 <SpeedEvil> Huh?
Jun 21 15:39:56 <SpeedEvil> It should error - but it should output somthing if you just do it with pipes
Jun 21 15:39:57 <mjr> you're doing it wrong
Jun 21 15:40:19 <xzcvczx> errr nvm
Jun 21 15:40:20 <SpeedEvil> As it doesn't know that the file has ended abnormally when it starts outputting the start
Jun 21 15:40:22 * xzcvczx is an idiot
Jun 21 15:48:47 <SpeedEvil> xzcvczx: I don't know if those are valid (fix) traces
Jun 21 16:04:19 <xzcvczx> SpeedEvil: one of them eventually is
Jun 21 16:05:33 <xzcvczx> well the second one probably is as well i haven't bothered looking yet
Jun 21 16:14:13 <xzcvczx> anyone willing to give some help getting neo going with os x over bluetooth(preferred) or over usb
Jun 21 16:16:07 <zedstar_> i connected my neo to my powerbook some time ago....it required a driver for usb networking if i remember correctly
Jun 21 16:20:07 <Sup3rkiddo> cdc?
Jun 21 16:21:46 <xzcvczx> bbs gotta reboot apparently
Jun 21 16:30:19 <CIA-45> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.dev * r5d6ec6b2e9c5 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [diversity] Bump up the reversion of splinter to 433
Jun 21 16:37:14 <CIA-45> openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.dev * r9c08f3b9c6f7 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [opkg] Bump up the reversion of opkg, opkg-native, opkg-sdk to 4491
Jun 21 17:31:46 <ljp_>  killall synergys
Jun 21 17:54:53 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r7714d9d33702 10/ (44 files in 10 dirs): first batch of repository reorganization after merging individual device daemons into frameworkd
Jun 21 18:06:00 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r8cf5842ad9a9 10/ (27 files in 6 dirs): continue reorg
Jun 21 18:30:08 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r0e50c3c1b9eb 10/framework/ (controller.py frameworkd): change controller logic to detect subsystems and their modules
Jun 21 18:35:09 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r6024b04581be 10/AUTHORS: Fix my email address
Jun 21 18:43:25 <methril|laptop> hi!
Jun 21 18:48:06 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r3f0cfcc8371e 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fix setup to autoinclude all paths
Jun 21 18:51:13 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r9a2710ef6b6e 10/odeviced/src/plugins/power/ (power.c power.h power.vala): made return type of GetEnergyPercentage as int
Jun 21 19:11:25 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r3c81179d6f0c 10/odeviced/src/plugins/power/ (power.c power.vala): add/change some debug messages
Jun 21 19:22:14 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r15e4ddb47173 10/odeviced/autogen.sh: chmod to executable
Jun 21 19:22:18 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * rc0902bf82f3a 10/odeviced/ (5 files in 4 dirs): re-organise directory structure
Jun 21 19:43:28 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r097da46e2432 10/framework/frameworkd: Don't use the environment for the current directory
Jun 21 19:48:41 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r14e29c3e8314 10/ (22 files in 7 dirs): Integrate some of old-oeventd
Jun 21 19:56:45 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r91d4320a853f 10/framework/controller.py: stop sys.path pollution
Jun 21 20:16:25 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * rd8fd2f95cec0 10/framework/controller.py: Use __import__ correctly
Jun 21 20:29:10 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * rd2df41170929 10/ (18 files in 7 dirs): Integrate some of old-ousaged
Jun 21 20:31:46 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r4c10b615e9a6 10/framework/frameworkd: simplify logic to find subsystem directory
Jun 21 20:36:09 <andra1> hello everyone
Jun 21 20:37:32 <methril|laptop> hello
Jun 21 20:37:48 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r3f6a04519244 10/framework/controller.py: log registered objects at end of startup
Jun 21 20:38:46 <andras_> are there any hardware people around? I guess the Dutch and the Russian are offline, but how about the rest...
Jun 21 20:39:05 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r8078dcd1a97e 10/ (72 files in 20 dirs): Integrate some of old-ophoned
Jun 21 20:39:07 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r31d02a1b98ef 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Integrate some of old-opreferencesd
Jun 21 20:40:44 <methril|laptop> bye
Jun 21 20:49:49 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * rd6796ca27dc5 10/framework/ (32 files in 7 dirs): Get rid of the modules subdirectories
Jun 21 20:55:53 <CVirus> the test team has been doing a really good job so far
Jun 21 20:56:09 <CVirus> where did you hire those people from :-p
Jun 21 20:57:52 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r742f2fa33ab5 10/framework/subsystems/ophoned/ (modems/abstract/modem.py objects.py): ophoned can be imported now, need to adjust busnames, object paths, and interfaces
Jun 21 21:10:48 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * rd1c6a56752b6 10/framework/subsystems/ophoned/objects.py: fix bus names and object paths for ophoned
Jun 21 21:14:39 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03daniel * r6fc0a8f65cb4 10/framework/subsystems/ophoned/objects.py: python-ophoned: Fix SimUnlock method invocation
Jun 21 21:15:04 <alphaone> Wow, that didn't take long at all!
Jun 21 21:15:27 <alphaone> ah, never mind
Jun 21 21:50:33 <andras_> hi, any hardware gurus around here?
Jun 21 21:57:27 <SpeedEvil> For low values of gu.
Jun 21 22:14:16 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r705500a54a04 10/setup.py: fix compiling the wireless python extension module
Jun 22 00:24:15 <linuxxr> nadda
Jun 22 00:25:36 <CVirus> dadda
Jun 22 00:25:45 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r5df471dfd69b 10/framework/ (3 files in 3 dirs): remove some more sys.path hacks
Jun 22 00:37:23 <CIA-45> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * rdabc3e530eed 10/ (10 files in 9 dirs): remove more path hacks
Jun 22 01:24:32 <roh> andras_ how guru do you need it?
Jun 22 02:50:07 <linuxxr> watcha think   the usa distributers will get some air freight or boat freight?
Jun 22 02:51:34 <linuxxr> i dont think the demand in the usa initially will be very great
Jun 22 02:51:55 <linuxxr> but should grow at a fast pace
Jun 22 02:52:24 <linuxxr> i need i quick so i can show it
Jun 22 02:53:13 <linuxxr> lots of rich p[eople here in nw arkansas
Jun 22 02:55:16 <SpeedEvil> They are flying it over on dragons.
Jun 22 02:55:35 <SpeedEvil> Their contractor has promised to deliver the dragons real soon now.
Jun 22 02:58:32 <XorA|gone> all the stuff I have seen about it hitting the shops has said July 4th
Jun 22 02:58:38 <XorA|gone> but thats not an official date
Jun 22 02:59:06 * SpeedEvil remembers his delivery service comment on the GTA02 page.
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