**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 03 02:59:57 2008 Oct 03 03:24:02 Dave: Don't you ever sleep? Oct 03 03:24:40 behdad: You don't happen to be from Toronto? Oct 03 03:26:49 right ther did u see it Oct 03 03:27:15 he had his eyes closed Oct 03 03:32:26 Does anyone know a command I can issue on the Freerunner which will list all the available X11 fonts? Oct 03 03:34:04 Sleep? Oct 03 03:34:24 Ken, changing the fonts? -- Cool, let me know if you ever figure out how to. Oct 03 03:35:30 I'm trying to use a second font within my program, but I need to know which fonts are available. Oct 03 03:45:25 fc-list Oct 03 03:45:30 , if that's installed Oct 03 03:45:51 mickey|tw, Yeah, I tried that. It isn't there. Oct 03 03:46:11 mickey|tw, Is there a package I can load which contains that? Oct 03 03:46:19 no idea offhand Oct 03 03:46:26 will check in OE when i have a chance Oct 03 03:46:37 Thanks! Oct 03 03:50:39 :D Oct 03 04:02:07 Ken_Young: fontconfig-utils Oct 03 04:04:32 mickey|tw, No file with that name seems to exist on my phone, at least with the 2007.2 stack. Should I look on my phone with 2008.9 installed? Oct 03 04:05:13 i don't know which distro is actually shipping this file Oct 03 04:05:18 it should be in the feeds though Oct 03 04:06:05 e.g. http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/feeds/armv4t/fontconfig-utils_2.4.1-r3_armv4t.ipk Oct 03 04:07:14 mickey|tw, Thanks very much for tracking that down for me. Oct 03 04:07:38 np Oct 03 04:07:49 :o Oct 03 04:14:19 can I disable gpg check? Oct 03 04:14:39 opkg update tries to download sugnature from Multiverse Oct 03 04:27:03 the micro sd card is shown as /dev/sdb1 Oct 03 04:27:48 is this something normal? most documents say /dev/mmcblk0 Oct 03 04:28:06 bricode: I actually am Oct 03 04:38:11 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r0e81df51f0e5 10/framework/resource.py: Oct 03 04:38:11 freesmartphone.org: resource handling: if ousaged is not present at runtime, start with Oct 03 04:38:11 freesmartphone.org: the resource enabled, otherwise we have no chance to turn it on. Oct 03 04:38:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r6e9c755c6e88 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Oct 03 04:38:13 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: classes derived from AbstractModemChannel now need the parent Oct 03 04:38:15 freesmartphone.org: 'modem' to be supplied in init (as keyword argument). Oct 03 04:38:17 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: implement org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device methods: Oct 03 04:38:18 freesmartphone.org: * GetSimBuffersSms() -> (b) Oct 03 04:38:21 freesmartphone.org: * SetSimBuffersSms(b) -> () Oct 03 04:38:23 freesmartphone.org: Note: This is only working for TI Calypso atm., please catch up in the Oct 03 04:43:51 ok I got it. I was trying it with the Adapter on my laptop before Oct 03 04:44:18 lpotter or ljp, is there going to be a newer kernel released to work with the new qtopia image? The old one still mounts the sd card into the wrong place after a suspend. =( Oct 03 04:44:55 which makes the media player alittle less useable. =/ Oct 03 04:52:14 Pyrasi: I put mwesters kernels at qtopia.net Oct 03 04:52:19 :) Oct 03 04:52:30 or a link Oct 03 04:52:41 can't we just use the latest from dl.om too? Oct 03 05:01:22 sure Oct 03 05:02:07 Good Oct 03 05:02:11 that's what we did this afternoon :) Oct 03 05:06:21 ljp: does media player work for you? Oct 03 05:09:03 for mp3's yes. but its not good Oct 03 05:09:40 does it close? Oct 03 05:10:15 oh...okay...nevermind....im just still getting errors from the card being mounted somewhere else....and im not sure where now...lol Oct 03 05:10:34 Dave: yes it should Oct 03 05:11:51 Hello. Oct 03 05:13:35 hi Oct 03 05:14:16 :P Oct 03 05:14:23 ze kaizer Oct 03 05:16:53 hey dave Oct 03 05:17:20 * FxChiP will brb Oct 03 05:19:05 Dave: You mentioned that you were using the latest om kernel with the new qtopia image...does everything work alright? Oct 03 05:19:13 How close do you think the Openmoko is to the Iphone? Oct 03 05:20:28 Tetracomm, Not very close. It's really aimed at a different user. Oct 03 05:20:42 Ok. Oct 03 05:20:48 Which operating system does it use? Oct 03 05:21:06 Tetracomm, It uses linux. Oct 03 05:21:28 I know, but, which distribution is it based on? Oct 03 05:21:46 Tetracomm, Openembedded. Oct 03 05:21:58 Ok. Oct 03 05:22:03 How much does it cost? Oct 03 05:22:19 The phone itself, or the software? Oct 03 05:22:30 The phone itself. Oct 03 05:22:31 using qtopia it is _really_ close to the iPhone Oct 03 05:23:15 Dave or ljp: if i use the latest om kernel instead of the mwester ones...is there a downside? Oct 03 05:23:38 not as good of suspend/resume Oct 03 05:23:47 Tetracomm, THe price is $399.00 US. Oct 03 05:24:20 Ok. Oct 03 05:24:35 I wonder how durable it is. Oct 03 05:24:59 well. it looksl ike a hockey puk,. so it might just be durable Oct 03 05:25:03 Tetracomm, Here's a link to where the distribution is described: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page Oct 03 05:25:30 Thank you. Oct 03 05:26:00 Tetracomm, One advantage of the openmoko phone is that CAD files for the unit are available, so you can make your own case if you need something extra durable. Oct 03 05:26:24 Nice. Oct 03 05:26:29 Make my own case? Oct 03 05:26:30 ya, make a titanium case Oct 03 05:26:48 That sounds complicated, but nice. Oct 03 05:26:48 or a clear plastic one Oct 03 05:27:04 hmm did koolu ever tool the debian tartan cases? Oct 03 05:27:07 The latter might be better, considering the antenna for the GSM is internal. Oct 03 05:27:07 wood might be nice too Oct 03 05:27:23 burl Oct 03 05:27:43 It would match my Rolls Royce interior that way. Oct 03 05:27:51 but it has an external gsm antenna connctor too Oct 03 05:28:24 ljp: the gsm antenna connector is made for at most 500 insertions Oct 03 05:28:34 (it was a test connector according to the ML) Oct 03 05:28:41 and "consequences are unknown if it breaks" Oct 03 05:28:41 What type of Rolls-Royce is that? Oct 03 05:29:00 Dunno. I'd have to ask my chauffer. Oct 03 05:29:01 sp? Oct 03 05:29:11 Let me have the butler go find him. Oct 03 05:29:30 ya, distract the butler while you wonk on the maid Oct 03 05:29:58 hmm....strange if i use the newest mwester kernel with gt-extended, the battery icon doesnt seem to work. Oct 03 05:30:04 nah, I just take my neo to the pub, and the girls just climb all over me. ;) Oct 03 05:30:48 Pyrasi: unplug, leave it for a bit, plug it back in -- see if it doesn't work then... Oct 03 05:31:54 MWester strikes again Oct 03 05:32:14 Actually, the hockey puck plastic look matches the interior of my cheapo American car very nicely. Oct 03 05:32:24 haha Oct 03 05:32:27 :) Oct 03 05:32:54 mwester: mine too ;) (see www.bufferunderflow.com for a pic if you dont believe me =P) Oct 03 05:33:46 mwester: hmm...well when i plug it in, the battery icon shows that it is charging, but it always shows the battery as empty when it is unplugged Oct 03 05:34:32 Yep, something changed in the kernel I think. Oct 03 05:34:58 but the apm interface to read the battery state is going away anyway, so it's doubtful that'll get changed. Oct 03 05:35:26 oh really? what is going to be used in place of apm? Oct 03 05:35:37 the dbus stuff? Oct 03 05:35:46 ya, why woudl they ever want to be compatible with apps that still use apm Oct 03 05:35:54 The same kernel event mechanism that is used by 2008.9 and FSO Oct 03 05:36:00 apm is just so old skool Oct 03 05:36:11 Like, everybody uses it. Oct 03 05:36:29 But the truth is that it doesn't show what we need on the FR anyway. Oct 03 05:37:04 perhaps. Oct 03 05:37:14 but the api is much simplier Oct 03 05:37:22 kinda like oss vs alsa Oct 03 05:37:44 Pyrasi: what kernel were you running earlier - do you have the full version id string or name of the uImage file? Oct 03 05:37:54 ljp: that's certainly true too. Oct 03 05:38:05 I still don't understand alsa. Oct 03 05:39:57 uggh alsa Oct 03 05:43:34 mwester: the one that wasnt reporting the battery correctly? Oct 03 05:43:44 or the one i was running previous to that one? Oct 03 05:43:59 Well the one that you think was working correctly. Oct 03 05:44:54 If you have something that can identify it, I can see what patches have been applied between then and now, and that'll provide a clue as to what changed. Oct 03 05:45:16 Otherwise, the answer we'll get back will be very simple: "Don't use APM". Oct 03 05:45:18 i actually just flashed back to it, and the battery in it is working correctly. It is uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin Oct 03 05:45:26 Thanks... Oct 03 05:49:21 mwester: if its any help, its the one that was packaged with the older version of qtopia on their page. Oct 03 05:54:43 ljp: how do you connect to a wireless network on the new qtopia? i thought i read somewhere that it could interface with the wireless? Oct 03 05:57:14 settings->internet->options menu->new->wireless network Oct 03 05:57:39 ohh...cool. Oct 03 05:59:27 The OpenMoko plays OGG? Oct 03 06:02:56 so... Oct 03 06:03:05 qtopia 4.4.1 anybody? Oct 03 06:14:13 wurp2|gone: i fixt that... time-man (time-tool) chas changed my timezone for the correct one but openmoko-toady was segfaulting after opening that file in /usr/share/zoneionfo Oct 03 06:17:39 there is no qtopia 4.4.1 Oct 03 06:17:47 sure? Oct 03 06:17:48 its qt extended 4.4.1 :) Oct 03 06:17:54 right Oct 03 06:17:57 so... Oct 03 06:18:19 what's the word Oct 03 06:21:40 morning Oct 03 06:22:41 rooly: I just flashed 4.4.1 Oct 03 06:22:46 seems alright... Oct 03 06:22:54 there are a few bugs Oct 03 06:22:58 for sure Oct 03 06:23:17 (see mailinglist for most of them) Oct 03 06:37:43 seriously... Oct 03 06:37:48 can't ANYONE get bluetooth working? Oct 03 06:40:50 Pyrasi: yeah, there are some annoying bugs like the echo problem :/ Oct 03 06:49:49 latest mwester kernel works fine with qtextended, even 8GB µSD works without doing anything :) Oct 03 06:50:08 morning Oct 03 06:50:23 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * rccd603cb6407 10/src/zhone: fix typo, thanks to flyser Oct 03 06:50:25 raster: I got the illume build working with some help from #oe Oct 03 06:52:01 raster: It seems that the variable OMDIR is not set when local.conf is read in/processed eventhough it is exported in setup-env. So defining it at the top of local.conf makes it work. Oct 03 06:53:12 raster: and patch 0011 is not needed anymore, since it got fixed upstream. Oct 03 07:10:40 is there a way to tell qtextended to store messages in the phone instead of the SIM card ? Oct 03 07:33:29 Can anybody here give me a few tips on debugging the Linux Kernel in FR? Oct 03 07:40:33 Please; Any tips at all on debugging the FR Kernel Oct 03 07:54:44 ahoi Oct 03 07:55:03 ioha Oct 03 08:01:21 Can anybody tell me how I totally clear the flash of the FR? I had 2008.9 in it and had some groups defined in Contacts. Flashed in [FSO] and then back to [2008.9] and I've still got my groups. Surprised by that. Want to make sure I start from a clean place Oct 03 08:13:51 raster: ping Oct 03 08:42:19 openmoko: 03marek * r4691 10/trunk/src/host/pye17/codegen/ (argtypes.py codegen.py h2def.py): Oct 03 08:42:19 openmoko: remove debugging output Oct 03 08:42:19 openmoko: help the parser to match "of-object" contructs Oct 03 08:54:05 openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4692 10/developers/erin_yueh/20070419_N7.19_obj_rel-moko4.rar: GSM firmware moko4 source code Oct 03 09:13:49 Does anybody know for which chip that GSM Firmware is that just got commited by erin_yueh? Oct 03 09:15:24 Hm interesting, it seems to be for the TI Calypso... Oct 03 09:15:46 http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ <- can anyone please apply that to openmoko? Oct 03 09:27:49 Goodday Oct 03 09:35:29 Ainulindale, here? Oct 03 09:42:40 Question: Where can I find the latest code? I'm not sure that svn.openmoko.com has the most recent code. Oct 03 09:42:50 or am I wrong? Oct 03 09:45:56 Zephurr: what specifically are you looking for? Oct 03 09:46:13 Zephurr: there's also http://git.openmoko.org/ Oct 03 09:46:26 Zephurr: FSO is at http://git.freesmartphone.org/ Oct 03 09:46:26 Well. when I look in the SVN, I can see om2007. not om2008 Oct 03 09:47:22 I am not looking for something in particular. I just want to check out the code to see if I can make something myself. Oct 03 09:48:34 I hope I am not embarrassing myself here. Oct 03 09:49:17 openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4693 10/developers/erin_yueh/20070419_N7.19_obj_rel-moko4.rar: remove it Oct 03 09:58:54 What I basically want to do is to change the aux button to do something else than just lock it. Oct 03 09:59:22 Zephurr, what distro? Oct 03 09:59:23 Maybe have it change keyboards, I dont know yet. It is basically to get me started on development. Oct 03 09:59:32 Om2008.9 Oct 03 09:59:34 because with debian\fso it should not be that hard. Oct 03 09:59:38 i c. Oct 03 09:59:44 no idea, haven't tried that. Oct 03 10:03:25 So, am I correct in thinking that the applications I use on Om2008.9 can be found in trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications ? Oct 03 10:03:40 Anyone, quick? When is the next qtopia image out? Oct 03 10:05:18 C`mon, i got a lecture in like 10 min here ^^ Oct 03 10:05:41 * Zephurr does not know Oct 03 10:06:14 data_jepp: 4.4.1 is available Oct 03 10:06:17 data_jepp, You recived new version yesterday, and now asking abount next?) Oct 03 10:06:32 gromez, actualy "System info" says, that it is 4.4.2) Oct 03 10:07:42 max_posedon: right :) Oct 03 10:08:39 Dont know, because the qtopia page that is linked directly to from the openmoko wiki is down. :/ Oct 03 10:08:53 data_jepp: qtextended.org Oct 03 10:09:47 Direct link from openmoko.org to qtopia image works for me. Oct 03 10:10:12 Oh, nice... Hmm funny. Well, one lecture. Workout, then home and update the phone. Party! Oct 03 10:11:02 im experiencing something very weird Oct 03 10:11:11 running duke3d from ssh works Oct 03 10:11:19 lol Oct 03 10:11:20 though running with the launcher does not. Oct 03 10:11:39 though running with the launcher calls my script for sure Oct 03 10:11:45 since it changes resolution. Oct 03 10:11:55 so i can't see where it fails Oct 03 10:13:41 why debian does not use swap that i created for him on SD card? Oct 03 10:14:03 Raigedas, swapon? Oct 03 10:14:11 im off. Oct 03 10:14:27 shouldnt linux automaticaly find swap partition and use it? Oct 03 10:14:43 ok, i will try swapon Oct 03 10:14:55 no, Linux isn't like a google) Oct 03 10:15:17 You should just properly configure /etc/fstab I think. Oct 03 10:15:30 ou really.. Oct 03 10:17:59 do you really want a swap partition? Oct 03 10:18:31 bear in mind, the life of the sd card will be significantly reduced by hosting a swap partition Oct 03 10:19:04 and unless you're really spiking the FR's memory, the gains will be minimal -- especially considering the throughput you can get from an sd card (and that it would take up bandwidth on the bus) Oct 03 10:20:54 I usually make a ramdisk and put the swapfile on there. Oct 03 10:21:02 Very fast too! Oct 03 10:21:05 Interesting, erin yuen just reverted the commit of the GSM source... Oct 03 10:21:30 "oops" Oct 03 10:21:39 but really, I do hope OM won't get into shit for that... Oct 03 10:22:22 mjr: yeah, and he should actually block that revision otherwise it is still accesible Oct 03 10:23:56 sosomeone really should tell him that, methinks... Oct 03 10:26:09 Zephurr, making a ramdisk to host a swap partition kinda defeats the purpose Oct 03 10:26:49 a swap partition is used to store part of RAM that the system doesn't think will be used much, or anytime soon... thus allowing more RAM to be available for other apps Oct 03 10:26:53 * Zephurr snickers Oct 03 10:26:58 hehe, ok Oct 03 10:27:03 :P Oct 03 10:27:13 hard to tell sarcasm online sometimes ;) Oct 03 10:27:26 True. My apologies. Oct 03 10:27:58 nah, had i need been into a couple beers, i might've simply realised, hehe Oct 03 10:28:52 on some (ancient) hardware that actually makes sense, though - eg. if part of the memory isn't cached, stick a ramdisk in there, swap on it Oct 03 10:29:53 Eitherhow, I am still having a spot of trouble finding out how I should start development. Would anyone care to talk me through the basics? Oct 03 10:30:21 mjr: I told mickey, I think he will take care of it. Oct 03 10:46:53 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * re2ea88b39a2d 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ubx.py: ogpsd.ubx: add simple debug interface Oct 03 10:56:58 ieatlint, yes i know that lifetime of SD will be greatly reduced if i use swap. Oct 03 10:57:54 just i am unable to use one program - it takes too long even to start. Oct 03 10:58:16 so i thoght maybe swap wouldd help here. Oct 03 11:02:41 Raigedas: aren't micro-sdhc's wear leveling by default? Oct 03 11:02:49 ieatlint, and also.. though gains are limited because of throughput of SD card, but keep in mind also that swap on SD has one advantage - it does not add aditional delay for head seek time as on hdds Oct 03 11:02:53 all you need to do, is set swappiness so it won't swap for fun and sport Oct 03 11:03:33 I have 256 megabyte swap in mine, and the swappiness set to such extremes, that it'll only swap when there's absolutely no other option available Oct 03 11:04:19 i never heard about swappiness. where should i set that? Oct 03 11:04:47 it's vm.swappiness sysctl value Oct 03 11:05:18 Kensan__: maybe people have already mirrored that file... Oct 03 11:05:57 APz, thanks i will try Oct 03 11:07:26 Wonka: well I hope this issue gets resolved smoothly because that could cause some serious trouble I believe... Oct 03 11:08:06 Wonka: Well let them deal with it and let's not make a big rukkus about it. Oct 03 11:18:12 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * re727b4a7144b 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ubx.py: ogpsd.ubx: use the correct dbus signature Oct 03 11:23:03 Kensan_: looks like that revision has already been removed Oct 03 11:27:20 ah, they just rolled the repo back to 4691 - smart. Oct 03 11:43:07 i see that it is bad idea to run java software on FR/debian... Oct 03 11:47:49 * Zephurr finds mokomakefile Oct 03 11:49:46 mokomakefile: ZOMG! its retardproof! Oct 03 11:50:13 Or I make a bad retard... Oct 03 11:53:14 Zephurr: if you don't fail at first, try again for epic fail. Oct 03 11:56:18 hi! are there any debian guys here? Oct 03 11:56:58 hello folks Oct 03 11:57:07 <[df]> I am a guy who is running debian, if that helps Oct 03 11:57:40 ditto here Oct 03 11:58:20 cool Oct 03 11:58:42 just got myself a 8GB and i'm going to install debian Oct 03 11:58:48 Xecuter, yes Oct 03 11:58:53 i did that Oct 03 11:59:09 exactly on 8GB Oct 03 11:59:16 if tried it before, but there wasn't enough space for me to really use it so i ordered a 8 GB Oct 03 11:59:29 mine's on 4 gigabyte card Oct 03 11:59:30 yes:) Oct 03 11:59:31 Zephurr: don't worry, there are people who still can't get mokomakefile to work for them ... Oct 03 11:59:32 but is there phone and SMS capabillity? Oct 03 12:00:11 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions says that additional software needs to be installed? Oct 03 12:00:11 Xecuter, yes it is, unfortunatelly it is very unstable, at least for me Oct 03 12:00:15 rwhitby, Just a though: Add a simple echo at the bottom: "It worked" Oct 03 12:00:52 rwhitby, Or if you want to make people nervous: "Kernel modules installed, have a nice day." Oct 03 12:02:00 Raigedas, but is it allready installed? Oct 03 12:02:29 Xecuter, it is, if i remeber Oct 03 12:02:56 the software is just called zhone. Oct 03 12:03:10 yes that i've understood... Oct 03 12:03:11 it is launched by default Oct 03 12:03:25 but i could never figure out how to write sms Oct 03 12:03:49 mm.. never tried to write sms ;)))) Oct 03 12:04:16 hehe Oct 03 12:04:21 i almost never write sms Oct 03 12:04:25 on any phone Oct 03 12:04:45 so, i even did not noticed that Oct 03 12:04:48 hehe i do... Oct 03 12:05:17 what i need to be able to use this phone as my everyday phone is sms and telephony Oct 03 12:06:17 yes, i definitely need stable telephony support Oct 03 12:06:25 debian and xfce look brilliant though! Oct 03 12:07:47 now when someone calls me, one may hear "subscriber out of radio coverage or unreacheble" Oct 03 12:07:49 :( Oct 03 12:09:05 Maybe the subscriber is out of radio coverage or unreacheble Oct 03 12:09:16 * Zephurr shuts up Oct 03 12:09:23 echo alias dir="rm -rf" >>/etc/profile Oct 03 12:10:02 LionKMP, And increase the fear of linux for MS users Oct 03 12:10:12 :-D Oct 03 12:13:23 rwhitby: mickey took care of it. Oct 03 12:14:20 isn't zhone written in python? Oct 03 12:14:33 Xecuter: yes it is. Oct 03 12:14:59 nice! :D that means i can help ^^, even tho my programming skills suck Oct 03 12:16:25 Xecuter: please do: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=zhone.git;a=summary Oct 03 12:16:26 ;) Oct 03 12:17:58 hehe, but like i said, i suck at it ^^, Oct 03 12:18:21 Xecuter: well there's an opportunity to learn ;) Oct 03 12:18:30 * Zephurr sure will try Oct 03 12:18:55 * Zephurr depends on others to make a valid syntax of the above words. Oct 03 12:19:08 hehe true Oct 03 12:19:12 g2g Oct 03 12:22:07 FDOM doesn't start X server when it boots, it hangs on "Starting Xserver", any idea ? Oct 03 12:30:22 hi, is it somehow possible to change the bluetooth adress of the freerunner ? Oct 03 12:30:43 uhh Oct 03 12:32:15 Good question! Oct 03 12:33:33 RedDog, iirc no bt dongel currently support changing the mac Oct 03 12:34:01 though you can probably change the firmware to support it ;] Oct 03 12:34:06 :P Oct 03 12:34:18 yeah that just sounds terrible. Oct 03 12:34:33 * rwhitby has wanted to change BT dongle MACs to create two overlapping BT AP zones in his office for the Treo650 Oct 03 12:34:56 I wonder if the BT protocol would support pairing with itself... Oct 03 12:36:25 Bumble! Oct 03 12:52:34 if u mean change the bluetooth broadcast name i think u can in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf Oct 03 12:57:13 zedstar: no, I mean change the bluetooth MACs Oct 03 12:59:07 _ /proc/bus/bluetooth/mac Oct 03 12:59:45 I believe it best for me to leave this place at this time, as no worthy contributions will come from me at this time. Oct 03 12:59:58 Gentlemen, I bid you a good day. Oct 03 13:02:07 http://www.polylog.tv/videothek/videocast/15824/ :-) First product-placement Oct 03 13:03:00 freesmartphone.org: 03charlie 07framework * r5dbb2358e42b 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): oeventsd: Added the 'while' rule (rule that can be undo) Oct 03 13:03:00 rwhitby, bccmd is the command, if it'll work Oct 03 13:03:06 http://blog.tremend.ro/2007/08/10/change-your-bluetooth-address-of-your-linux-machine/ Oct 03 13:04:58 ieatlint: thx - unfortunately my dongles are broadcom, not csr Oct 03 13:05:37 might give it a try... never know Oct 03 13:05:46 the driver in the kernel could be changed to support it Oct 03 13:06:03 that article is a year old, and the commnds are not at all specific to csr in principle Oct 03 13:11:21 rwhitby yeh i was replying to redflash as i thought he might have meant that Oct 03 13:13:26 would someone mind looking at this http://pastebin.com/d3457a918 - why does my "bitbake nano" fail? Oct 03 13:15:38 exco: looks like the user running bitbake doesn't have permssions in /media/media/OE/... Oct 03 13:15:47 exco: it seems bitbake (the user that is running bitbake) does not have permission to do "os.chmod(runfile, 0775)" Oct 03 13:16:05 exco: what type of filesystem is /media/media? Oct 03 13:16:09 ntfs Oct 03 13:16:24 I doubt that you can build OE on ntfs. Oct 03 13:17:04 well - I think I'll change it to ext3 and try again then (I just didn't have enough space on my linux partition) Oct 03 13:17:35 thanks for your fast help - and if I fail again - I'll ask again :-) Oct 03 13:54:58 hello.. is the QEMU flash.base used for freerunner different from neo1973? Oct 03 13:55:04 if so, how is it generated? Oct 03 14:03:32 mi az? Oct 03 15:09:18 wurp2|working: thanks mate, i will try that Oct 03 16:38:58 lint Oct 03 16:39:26 crumbs Oct 03 16:39:36 fuzz Oct 03 16:41:08 gookenshlaapen Oct 03 16:41:45 Fxchip, so... how about that apple, huh? Oct 03 16:42:04 mwester, so... how about that battery code, huh? Oct 03 16:42:04 not in any mood Oct 03 16:42:09 heh Oct 03 16:42:11 Fixed Oct 03 16:42:20 mwester, how about those design specs? Oct 03 16:42:29 how about that open modem code? Oct 03 16:42:38 I just wear specs, don't do designs. Oct 03 16:42:56 motherfucking gsm modem Oct 03 16:43:23 dde Oct 03 16:43:25 dude* Oct 03 16:43:26 it's too early for anger Oct 03 16:43:29 haha Oct 03 16:43:31 haha Oct 03 16:43:32 :) Oct 03 16:43:38 * Dave beers fxchip Oct 03 16:43:47 I don't think it's a proper gsm modem. After tracking down Yet Another instance where it violates the standards, I am not at all certain that it was ever used in any real devices. Oct 03 16:44:32 So now it looks like we have to hack up something deep in Qtopia to handle a response where it happily says "OK" but sends back an empty list. Oct 03 16:44:57 :( Oct 03 16:45:03 Is that when it deregisters? Oct 03 16:45:09 (Was that what you were referring to?) Oct 03 16:46:50 Mmm... seven pound cheeseburger. Oct 03 16:51:06 No, this is just to make it display correct signal strength. Oct 03 16:52:01 which is totally fucked up Oct 03 16:52:20 while you're on that subject, someone write a new one or fix the wifi driver? Oct 03 16:53:00 Damn, sometimes I really which scap would list the poster... so I could go after them... Oct 03 16:54:29 like this person spamming the shit out of the rx-44, whatever that is, and whatever pretty os it's running Oct 03 16:57:45 oh no Oct 03 16:57:51 mwester, is this the FR GSM modem? Oct 03 16:58:06 ¬_¬ Oct 03 16:58:53 Dave: you have a link? Oct 03 16:59:55 FxChiP: Yes, the horrible calypso Oct 03 17:00:08 Oh, fuck. Oct 03 17:00:17 They're changing it right? Oct 03 17:00:36 Yes, it's gone in the 03 Oct 03 17:01:22 <[df]> what sort of stage is the 03 at? Oct 03 17:01:38 Dave: didn't you get my replies yesterday about the rx-44 and os ? Oct 03 17:01:39 Dave: nevermind, haha - I see all the rx-44 posts... as if you could miss them - the OS looks like maemo Oct 03 17:05:46 [2008-10-02 16:45:58] Dave: it's probably just running one of the OS2k* ... looks like OS2008 Oct 03 17:05:46 [2008-10-02 16:45:58] Dave: http://europe.nokia.com/A4579470 Oct 03 17:05:46 [2008-10-02 16:45:58] Dave: http://www.internettablettalk.com/software/ Oct 03 17:05:46 Dave: http://maemo.org/ Oct 03 17:08:09 :O Oct 03 17:08:23 ezekiel, Ah! Oct 03 17:08:36 ezekiel, I was more curious as to the actual device that they were taken from Oct 03 17:08:43 but I guess that is more of a mystery Oct 03 17:08:48 thanks sicu :p Oct 03 17:10:52 tsk tsk Oct 03 17:10:57 :P Oct 03 17:11:17 kuskit Oct 03 17:11:33 ~_~ Oct 03 17:11:34