**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 24 00:04:41 2008
Nov 24 00:04:45 <Dave> unless he means uboot?
Nov 24 00:04:50 <Dave> o_O
Nov 24 00:05:07 <Dave> uninstall uboot?
Nov 24 00:05:13 <Dave> install Qi
Nov 24 00:05:14 <Dave> :p
Nov 24 00:06:24 <Fougner> ah
Nov 24 00:06:34 <Fougner> maybe I have to reflash uboot
Nov 24 00:07:22 <mwester> Why???
Nov 24 00:07:40 <Dave> WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?
Nov 24 00:07:42 * Dave rolls his eyes
Nov 24 00:08:23 <mwester> I wouldn't recommend Qi at this point yet
Nov 24 00:08:30 <Dave> not yet, huh? 
Nov 24 00:08:36 <Dave> I've heard a couple success stories
Nov 24 00:08:42 <Dave> (and nothing else) :p
Nov 24 00:10:15 <gurugentoo> ok, so with the volume nice and low,  I think I'm finally happy with the sound quality on the other end
Nov 24 00:10:27 <Dave> :)
Nov 24 00:12:35 <kd8ikt> dave!
Nov 24 00:12:40 <Dave> Yes?
Nov 24 00:12:56 <kd8ikt> No!
Nov 24 00:13:07 * Dave rolls his eyes at kd8ikt
Nov 24 00:16:54 <Fougner> Dave!
Nov 24 00:17:20 <kd8ikt> smells
Nov 24 00:17:38 <Fougner> haha
Nov 24 00:17:59 <Tig|> I would have though Dave would be in bed by now
Nov 24 00:18:18 <CIA-51> openmoko: 03werner * r4817 10/developers/werner/myroot/werner.init: Don't wipe out /etc/fstab ...
Nov 24 00:19:18 <Dave> o_o
Nov 24 00:20:17 <sicu> 0_0
Nov 24 00:21:46 <Tig|> -_-
Nov 24 00:22:55 <kd8ikt> >_>
Nov 24 00:23:09 <kd8ikt> <_<
Nov 24 00:23:16 <kd8ikt> got any pot?
Nov 24 00:23:40 <raster> no
Nov 24 00:23:48 <Dave> raster's got e :P
Nov 24 00:23:50 <raster> but i got yo momma
Nov 24 00:24:02 <raster> e's good
Nov 24 00:24:12 <raster> i do e every day
Nov 24 00:24:15 <raster> all day
Nov 24 00:24:18 <Dave> :D
Nov 24 00:24:21 <Dave> we hope so ;P
Nov 24 00:27:00 <Tig|> I have to say SHRtesting is flirting with being a basically usable phone :0
Nov 24 00:27:32 <mwester> Kinda scarey isn't it? :D
Nov 24 00:27:38 <Tig|> yeah 
Nov 24 00:27:58 <Tig|> I stopped playing with it after a bit as it was a phone
Nov 24 00:29:24 <white_gecko> hello
Nov 24 00:29:36 <raster> gad damn no!
Nov 24 00:29:39 <raster> how dare it be a phone!
Nov 24 00:30:00 <white_gecko> is it possible to just use the debian packages for arm and install them into the toolchein directory instead compiling every lib on my own?
Nov 24 00:31:27 <Tig|> raster:  Illume looks and behaves wonderfully :)  I think the whole OM ecosystem would be stuffed without it,  thank you :) 
Nov 24 00:31:56 <raster> :)
Nov 24 00:31:59 <Tig|> white_gecko: not an expert but there are different arm versions
Nov 24 00:32:01 <raster> it5 could be much better
Nov 24 00:32:28 <Tig|> raster:  in that case,  back to work! :)
Nov 24 00:33:07 * Dave cracks his whip
Nov 24 00:34:04 * Tig| created a py-etk app the other day,  it put a big button on the screen and did fuck all,  shame really it was supposed to power on bluetooth and connect my keyboard..... back to the drawing board :) 
Nov 24 00:36:21 <Dave> hehe, cute
Nov 24 00:36:25 <Dave> nice attempt, TIG :)
Nov 24 00:36:33 <Dave> You're on the right track!
Nov 24 00:38:57 <Tig|> networks,  servers not a problem, obscure bugs and random shit no issue.  proper programming?  fuckup :) 
Nov 24 00:40:46 <Tig|> I am a lego sysadmin,  I can make things out of blocks of components and on occasions get a knife and glue and wedge bits of blocks together.  I can't make a block from scratch though :( 
Nov 24 00:41:35 * raster hands Tig| some sillyputty
Nov 24 00:42:07 <Tig|> oh don't I drove my co-workers up the wall with that as I kept boucing it off the desk  :)
Nov 24 00:42:47 <Tig|> also you can distract people on conversations by stretching it out slowly :)  
Nov 24 00:42:55 <Dave> OM ball?
Nov 24 00:44:12 <Tig|> an OM ball would be a tetrahedron but is ok as the community can make the sanding tools :P 
Nov 24 00:44:31 <Dave> :P
Nov 24 00:47:52 <Tig|> that reminds me I need to change the ringtone and SMS alert tone on my phone so I wont look like a right tit in public :)   
Nov 24 00:48:28 <Tig|> (obv. joke,  well it will remove the phone from the equation... " )
Nov 24 00:57:53 <white_gecko> there is no libbz2 in the toolchain
Nov 24 00:58:15 <white_gecko> :-(
Nov 24 00:59:40 <white_gecko> there are many libs missing, which I need
Nov 24 01:00:26 <white_gecko> i there an easier way then compiling every lib on my own and figure out, how to compile it first
Nov 24 01:03:11 <mwester> white_gecko:  if you need stuff beyond the toolchain, then you need to set up the full build environment to build the distro you target.
Nov 24 01:04:25 <white_gecko> hm i just want to build one single programm
Nov 24 01:04:52 <white_gecko> is it possible to copy libs from the phone to the toolchain?
Nov 24 01:05:01 <white_gecko> or to install opkgs into the toolchein
Nov 24 01:05:06 <white_gecko> chain
Nov 24 01:09:10 <Dave> oh yeah, and raster
Nov 24 01:09:20 <Dave> What's with the no use of the AUX key?
Nov 24 01:10:36 <sicu> AUX is for pussies
Nov 24 01:10:48 <sicu> infact all HW buttons are out !
Nov 24 01:11:23 <Dave> >:o
Nov 24 01:11:30 <raster> dont look at me
Nov 24 01:11:37 <Dave> okay raster
Nov 24 01:11:39 <raster> by default aux and power are bound
Nov 24 01:11:47 <raster> its an oe issue that x doesnt generate any key eventsa
Nov 24 01:12:00 <Dave> oh really? lame.
Nov 24 01:12:04 <Dave> that sucks!
Nov 24 01:12:07 <Tig|> raster is this a recent change?
Nov 24 01:12:42 <Tig|> is this why my BT keyboard does not work with SHRt ?  no keybindings
Nov 24 01:13:01 <Tig|> or could this be
Nov 24 01:14:20 <Tig|> another investigation for tomorrow :)
Nov 24 01:14:23 <Dave> unlikely
Nov 24 01:14:27 <white_gecko> there is opkg-cl in the toolchain, what does it do? there is no man-page
Nov 24 01:14:39 <raster> no
Nov 24 01:14:50 <raster> on openmokoe's asu (2008.x) x produces keystrokes
Nov 24 01:14:54 <raster> on oe(fso) it doesnt
Nov 24 01:15:01 <raster> i have never gotten the time to check why
Nov 24 01:15:51 <Tig|> so I should be looking at X then
Nov 24 01:15:58 <Dave> Raster :(
Nov 24 01:16:02 <Dave> that sounds pretty major to me...
Nov 24 01:16:27 * Dave bribes raster with a five dollar bill
Nov 24 01:16:29 <Tig|> Dave: yeah but is hardly Raster's department
Nov 24 01:16:40 <Dave> yeah well...
Nov 24 01:16:54 <Tig|> and Raster is doing this off his own money now not OM 
Nov 24 01:17:05 <Dave> not entirely
Nov 24 01:18:27 <Tig|> anyhoo I am connecting via hidd keypresses should be going somewhere
Nov 24 01:23:00 <Dave> Tig, and it's not going anywhere?
Nov 24 01:24:48 <slaxxin> i have put 3 microsd cards under shr now    with all three segmentation faults
Nov 24 01:26:23 <mwester> Er, programs seg fault, not cards.
Nov 24 01:26:25 <Dave> :P
Nov 24 01:26:45 <Tig|> Dave: tbh not started debugging it yet,  it connects and registers but nothing happens.  Will be looking at it during the week
Nov 24 01:27:12 <Dave> that's what I had :(
Nov 24 01:27:16 <Dave> :\
Nov 24 01:27:19 <Fougner> Dave!
Nov 24 01:27:20 <mwester> slaxxin:  what are you trying to do?
Nov 24 01:28:07 * Fougner scratches his head
Nov 24 01:28:13 <raster> mwester:  its a new kind of card! it can segv! advanced eh?
Nov 24 01:28:14 <raster> :)
Nov 24 01:28:21 <slaxxin> well 2 of them i can not read in ubuntu  an the 3rd i can read
Nov 24 01:28:30 <Fougner> oh god it's late :O
Nov 24 01:28:47 <Dave> hah
Nov 24 01:29:04 <slaxxin> tried to fdisk in shr an seg fault
Nov 24 01:29:25 <mwester> slaxxin:  fdisk in all recent images is broken -- bad version of busybox.
Nov 24 01:29:54 <slaxxin> fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
Nov 24 01:30:00 <slaxxin> ok
Nov 24 01:30:01 <slaxxin> ic
Nov 24 01:30:52 <mwester> Yep.  fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 will work, but fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 segfaults.   Same problem on FSO, same problem even on SlugOS on totally different hardware (but uses same Busybox built with OE)
Nov 24 01:34:32 <slaxxin> so what can i do to those 2 cards that wont show up?
Nov 24 01:35:43 <slaxxin> card reader showes nothing
Nov 24 01:36:45 <mwester> Are they SDHC and does your card reader support SDHC cards?
Nov 24 01:38:16 <slaxxin> it just says msd
Nov 24 01:38:24 <slaxxin> :)
Nov 24 01:40:38 <mwester> how big are the cards
Nov 24 01:41:06 <slaxxin> kingston 4 gig
Nov 24 01:41:14 <mwester> SDHC then
Nov 24 01:41:32 <mwester> SD can only do up to 2GB
Nov 24 01:41:50 <mwester> older card readers that can't do SDHC can't read any cards > 2GB
Nov 24 01:41:56 <slaxxin> ok
Nov 24 01:42:02 <slaxxin>  thats it then
Nov 24 01:42:05 <mwester> (although it is possible for there to be a 1 or 2GB SDHC, I beilieve
Nov 24 01:42:06 <mwester> )
Nov 24 01:45:16 <Fougner> mwester, you the man!!!!!
Nov 24 01:47:58 <Dave> :D
Nov 24 01:51:05 <Fougner> Dave! =D
Nov 24 01:53:08 <Dave> Excited to see me, again?
Nov 24 01:53:29 <Fougner> Yeah! really =D
Nov 24 01:58:25 <Dave> :P
Nov 24 01:58:28 <Dave> Well hi there :p
Nov 24 02:00:08 <CVirus> hai
Nov 24 02:02:06 <Dave> :p
Nov 24 02:09:18 <slaxxin> how about a good version of busybox   would that break shr?
Nov 24 02:14:05 <Fougner> Dave! )D
Nov 24 02:14:05 <Fougner> =D
Nov 24 02:14:07 <Fougner> hi dave
Nov 24 02:14:28 <Dave> GREETINGS
Nov 24 02:39:45 <Fougner> bah
Nov 24 02:39:47 <Fougner> goodnight :LD
Nov 24 02:48:37 <Dave> Ken!
Nov 24 02:54:43 <KenYoung> Hi Dave.
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