**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 25 02:59:57 2008 Dec 25 03:13:00 lindi-: So how usable is your dialer? Is it functional yet? Dec 25 03:57:26 So has anyone built an expect package for the FR yet? Dec 25 04:27:21 merry xmas Dec 25 04:35:26 Well, I have no experience in GUI programming to speak of... What's the absolute simplest way I can make a GUI with a few buttons that run terminal commands that I can use on the FR? :P Dec 25 04:39:12 I try to use the actual terminal as little as possible, since the FR doesn't have the world's largest keyboards... Dec 25 05:11:39 no way to change the kb in 2008.12? Dec 25 07:35:49 hohoho Dec 25 07:36:13 my cousin bought two gta02's Dec 25 07:39:30 hi Dec 25 09:21:50 Merry Christmas!!!! Dec 25 09:49:39 merry christmas Dec 25 09:50:33 merry christmas! Dec 25 10:40:02 ahoi Dec 25 11:09:39 Merry xmas from the Netherlands dudes and dudettes! May the source be with you. Dec 25 11:13:01 :-D Dec 25 11:13:27 and merry winter solstice holiday to you as well :-D Dec 25 11:48:43 When I do a opkg update && upgrade on my brand new 2008.12 image, It goes for om 2008.8 repository? Dec 25 11:51:17 Does the dfu-util wipe all data from parition before it copy the image to the phone ? Dec 25 11:51:31 yes Dec 25 11:51:40 as long as you u-boot is newer than 2 years ago Dec 25 11:52:41 does the 2008.12 have sound/echo issues ? Dec 25 11:54:59 should be much reduced in 2008.12 Dec 25 11:55:25 ok, thanks :) Dec 25 12:26:02 Has anyone been able to build 2008.12 or 2008.testing using mokomakefile? Wgat args do you use in the Makefile? Dec 25 13:02:52 why the heck does enlightenment in ilumine take about 15-20% cpu Dec 25 13:08:21 do we have a changelog for the new uboot image ? (gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin) Dec 25 13:26:00 ho ho ho! Dec 25 13:26:04 hi all Dec 25 13:32:33 Anybody have paroli running yet? Dec 25 14:08:37 re-hi Dec 25 14:09:39 jonkristian: i think i promised too much yesterday, my system is b0rked Dec 25 14:30:06 Digital_Pioneer: yeah it works Dec 25 14:32:52 hi all and merry christmas Dec 25 14:33:17 just wanted to say that my openmoko custom search engine now can search also opkg.org Dec 25 14:33:38 Mortak: no worries;) Dec 25 14:33:49 bbl Dec 25 14:34:17 you can find it at http://aiurlano.netsons.org/OpenMoko/ or at http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=018430699993342716089:szsaurhronw Dec 25 14:36:38 nice Dec 25 14:38:36 admiral0, thanks :) suggestions and critics are appreciated Dec 25 14:40:03 hmm... howcome I can't seem to install package e-wm ? Dec 25 14:40:38 root@om-gta02:~# opkg install e-wm Dec 25 14:40:38 Installing e-wm (0.16.999.050+svnr37988-r0.1) to root... Dec 25 14:40:38 Collected errors: Dec 25 14:40:38 * ERROR: Package e-wm (parent e-wm) is not available from any configured src. Dec 25 14:40:38 * Failed to download e-wm. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? Dec 25 14:40:47 Ghiottone: Italian? Dec 25 14:45:23 admiral0, yes Dec 25 14:45:39 Ghiottone join #telefoninux Dec 25 15:05:43 lindi-: Do you have an ipk handy by any chance? :P Dec 25 15:11:17 Digital_Pioneer: darcs get http://iki.fi/lindi/darcs/kapula Dec 25 15:14:27 lindi-: Is darcs some kind of svn or git type program that I don't know? :\ Dec 25 15:15:05 Digital_Pioneer: yeah Dec 25 15:15:28 Not in FR or host system's repos... :( Dec 25 15:15:28 Digital_Pioneer: i am still learning git so I use darcs for simple stuff Dec 25 15:15:40 Digital_Pioneer: i'd imagine any modern distro to have darcs Dec 25 15:16:17 lindi-: Mine's not a big distro. Dec 25 15:17:39 lindi-: Also, I don't have anything resembling the OM toolchain on here, it won't work. aclocal version mismatch or some such nonsense. Dec 25 15:18:10 Digital_Pioneer: it's just python, no need to compile anything Dec 25 15:18:46 Surprisingly enough, half the python projects I get for my FR want to be compiled anymore... It's just bytecode, though, I suppose. Dec 25 15:18:54 Not arch-specific. Dec 25 15:21:34 Well, when I just downloaded the kapula python file, it runs, creates a GUI, but something's gotta be off... Just Initiate, Activate, and Release buttons, huge text saying 'network status' and 'call status' and the File menu. I can't figure out how to do anything. :P Dec 25 15:22:17 Digital_Pioneer: you did not read the source Dec 25 15:22:35 Digital_Pioneer: it's not exactly newbie friendly yet :) Dec 25 15:22:40 Hahah Dec 25 15:22:45 Digital_Pioneer: did it print anything to stdout? Dec 25 15:22:50 Yeah, quite a bit. Dec 25 15:22:59 can you paste somewhere? Dec 25 15:23:23 The request GSM definitely worked. Dec 25 15:23:41 It said I'm using AT&T which is accurate. Dec 25 15:24:01 Digital_Pioneer: yeah but did you configure your PIN code? Dec 25 15:24:27 Which one? :P Dec 25 15:24:34 Digital_Pioneer: you don't have pin code? Dec 25 15:24:38 that would explain Dec 25 15:24:41 I had to use a couple to activate the phone, but I did that online. Not on the phone. Dec 25 15:24:49 ok Dec 25 15:25:05 Digital_Pioneer: --register-gsm-on-startup option will make it register to network by default if you don't want to choose it manually from menu Dec 25 15:25:18 lindi-: http://pastebin.ca/1293469 <-- I did a bunch of button-pushing, there. Dec 25 15:25:42 Digital_Pioneer: that's normal Dec 25 15:25:56 maybe those buttons should be renamed to "Call", "Answer" and "Hangup" Dec 25 15:25:59 And I have to Ctrl-C it, closing it from GUI doesn't stop the process. Dec 25 15:26:05 Digital_Pioneer: aha Dec 25 15:26:15 lindi-: That would make more sense. ;) Dec 25 15:26:27 Digital_Pioneer: but in the FSO api they are named like that Dec 25 15:26:40 Digital_Pioneer: file->exit works here Dec 25 15:26:45 Digital_Pioneer: does it print anything for you? Dec 25 15:26:46 Oh, didn't use that. Dec 25 15:26:53 ah you clicked the X? Dec 25 15:27:02 I pulled down Illume's board and hit X. :) Dec 25 15:27:12 That's how I close everything, pretty much. Dec 25 15:27:53 `python kapula --register-gsm-on-startup` has no apparent effect. :\ Dec 25 15:28:02 Digital_Pioneer: thanks for your bug report Dec 25 15:28:09 i'm away to eat now, i'll look at those after it Dec 25 15:28:28 OK. Looks promising, though. Good work. Dec 25 15:41:57 whathesamhell Dec 25 16:02:08 hi all Dec 25 16:05:12 i try to pair the bluetooth device with my laptop. I get neo's adresse with hcitool scan. then I do "hidd --connect ": Then I get "Can't get device information: Success". (btw I'm using ubuntu). any ideas how to get the device paired? or get some debug info or so? Dec 25 16:08:28 is there no wireless in om-2008.12 Dec 25 16:12:47 jones_: I installed mofi and connected to wireless on Om2008.12 Dec 25 16:12:56 but I also noticed there was no "wireless" in settings Dec 25 16:13:39 installing softwar is a challenge when you cant connect to the phone Dec 25 16:14:04 cant get usb working in mint Dec 25 16:17:48 hi all, i managed to stop enlightment to work by removing modules in "the wrench" . any idea on how to get it working again ? Dec 25 16:22:07 reboot? Dec 25 16:22:57 i tried it already and that didn;t work. i have a blank/grey screen and no acces to the wrench to repair what i have done Dec 25 16:24:21 ssh in? Dec 25 16:25:25 yup i can ssh in. i just have no usable screen Dec 25 16:26:00 cant you fix that from the smell? Dec 25 16:26:06 shell** Dec 25 16:26:29 ROFL Dec 25 16:27:06 ii hope so, but i have no idea how ! Dec 25 16:27:21 what did you delete? Dec 25 16:27:48 rm -rf /*? Dec 25 16:27:52 in the wrench i removed a few modules. ( bat, mixxer, etc) Dec 25 16:27:55 get a copy of the rootfs, and unpack it locally on your machine, copy across what you deleted Dec 25 16:28:15 i did not delete files, i changed the config Dec 25 16:28:53 can you grab the original configs from svn or vs or whatever? Dec 25 16:28:56 cvsa* Dec 25 16:29:09 grrr, i just cant type Dec 25 16:29:25 if i only knew what to grab! Dec 25 16:29:47 get the whole wrench config dir, and repalce it all Dec 25 16:29:54 does anyone know which config file holds the settings for the illume modules Dec 25 16:35:08 it is in ~/.e ! Dec 25 16:35:21 thanks for the help guys. Dec 25 16:50:32 haha Amaraok looks like ass Dec 25 16:52:19 Goatroak. Dec 25 16:54:35 does anyone know where in the kernel does the data for /proc/pid/fd comes from ? Dec 25 16:54:49 It's the processes file descroiptos Dec 25 16:54:52 descriptors Dec 25 16:54:57 the list of open fds (socks, pipes etc) Dec 25 16:55:06 yeah, but i cant seem to find the functions Dec 25 16:55:12 that actually print this stuff Dec 25 16:55:18 The kenrel has lots of tables internally for each process. Dec 25 16:55:32 it's in /drivers/proc or something Dec 25 16:55:39 i can see the structure of open fd's in task_struct, but it seems tricky to open them, so i want to know how to do it properly Dec 25 16:55:40 some of them are exported by procfs Dec 25 16:55:50 why? Dec 25 16:55:57 yea /fs/proc/* Dec 25 16:56:07 You usually can't open files in the kernel if that's what you mean. Dec 25 16:56:18 i just want the list of sockets opened by particular process Dec 25 16:56:41 i dont want to open any files, just need the list of open sockets .. Dec 25 16:56:52 actually the inodes of the sockets Dec 25 16:58:06 /usr/src/linux/fs/proc Dec 25 16:58:09 sockfd_lookup can return the struct sock , if the fd is given to it Dec 25 16:58:12 /base.c Dec 25 16:58:13 ? Dec 25 16:58:25 let me check this out Dec 25 16:58:25 what're you trying to do? Dec 25 16:58:31 mnaybe Dec 25 17:04:32 edje: did you solve your problem? Dec 25 17:05:24 proc_readfd_common looks interesting, im trying it out now .. Dec 25 17:10:23 awesome ! i think this is just what i needed ! thanks speedevil Dec 25 17:10:31 :) Dec 25 17:10:44 * SpeedEvil knows almost nothing about everything. Dec 25 17:45:43 anybody here, plz help :( Dec 25 17:47:09 gps in shr, what's up? Dec 25 17:49:03 Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibility daemon: start-stop-daemon: invalid option -- P Dec 25 17:58:30 Package libframeworkd-glib0 md5sum mismatch. Dec 25 17:58:45 Tried with some force commands but it doesn't work. Dec 25 18:00:22 hmmm cant connect to home wireless in FDOM Dec 25 18:00:26 i've seen amarok on scap.linuxtogo.org Dec 25 18:00:29 wtf? Dec 25 18:01:26 it gets stuck at connecting to... Dec 25 18:11:25 Im an advanced enduser, is android something for me ? Dec 25 18:14:32 admiral0: Hmmmmmmm, where do I get those Illume themes? :P Dec 25 18:14:39 Amarok on FR would be sweet too. Dec 25 18:14:51 which themes? Dec 25 18:17:55 admiral0: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/efdd39c5a0f32c1a76fcbfe549f74f9f.png For instance Dec 25 18:18:41 emsyr: yes, removing the ~/.e directory did the trick. thanks for asking Dec 25 18:20:18 Digital_Pioneer.. BluesLee has done it. Ask him. he's on openmoko-cdevel Dec 25 18:20:42 admiral0: Those his shots? Dec 25 18:20:52 yes Dec 25 18:23:19 BluesLee: Welcome. :) Dec 25 18:23:39 hi Dec 25 18:23:40 Where can I get this theme? http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/efdd39c5a0f32c1a76fcbfe549f74f9f.png Dec 25 18:24:21 Digital_Pioneer: there is no finalized theme yet Dec 25 18:24:49 Digital_Pioneer: i am just playing around ... Dec 25 18:25:09 Well it looks sweet. Dec 25 18:25:25 Digital_Pioneer: an there will not be a theme with those images included as they are proprietary Dec 25 18:25:42 Digital_Pioneer: icons are gpl Dec 25 18:25:59 Awww. Proprietary crap. :P Dec 25 18:26:45 Digital_Pioneer: hehe ... no big problem... http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/6678b0280b5a03d164803c72fccf3fde.png Dec 25 18:27:24 So you got Amarok working on FR too... Is it usable on there? Dec 25 18:27:40 Digital_Pioneer: this one isnt proprietary ... and i will find a gpl one for the top ... Dec 25 18:27:54 Yeah, it's pretty slick too. Dec 25 18:27:55 BluesLee: sweet Dec 25 18:28:02 Digital_Pioneer: no, dos1 was experimenting with amarok Dec 25 18:28:16 Is that theme available anywhere? Dec 25 18:28:21 that's shr? Dec 25 18:28:26 Looks like SHR. Dec 25 18:28:28 thats shr Dec 25 18:28:28 how do I tell opkg NOT to use latest version of a package? I have downloaded an opk file to disk that I want to install, but opkg can find a newer version in it's database, so automatically trying to install the newer version instead. Dec 25 18:28:42 pooze: -force-downgradwe Dec 25 18:28:46 *downgrade Dec 25 18:28:53 jonkristian: not yet, it will take some time, just playing around Dec 25 18:28:55 root@om-gta02:~# opkg install ./e-wm_0.16.999.043\+svnr36882-r14.01_armv4t.opk -force-reinstall -force-downgrade Dec 25 18:28:55 Multiple packages (e-wm and e-wm) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Dec 25 18:28:55 Multiple packages (e-wm and e-wm) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Dec 25 18:28:55 Installing e-wm (0.16.999.050+svnr37988-r0.1) to root... Dec 25 18:28:55 Collected errors: Dec 25 18:28:57 * ERROR: Package e-wm (parent e-wm) is not available from any configured src. Dec 25 18:28:59 * Failed to download e-wm. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? Dec 25 18:29:01 Digital_Pioneer: i run amarok with DISPLAY=freerunner's ip, so it's cheeting ;] Dec 25 18:29:04 cheating* Dec 25 18:29:16 dos1: Ahhh, LOL Dec 25 18:29:19 dos1: cheating? hmmm Dec 25 18:29:20 ^- Digital_Pioneer Dec 25 18:29:23 You can do that?? Dec 25 18:30:08 "xhost +" on freerunner and i can "run" what i want ;D Dec 25 18:30:24 pooze: Put forces before package. Dec 25 18:31:00 Does anybody know how to fix this? Package libframeworkd-glib0 md5sum mismatch. Dec 25 18:31:11 Im getting that on shr, trying opkg update && opkg upgrade Dec 25 18:31:22 Digital_Pioneer: same result, unfortunately. Dec 25 18:31:32 dos1: Hmmm, I tried it, it didn't work... :( Dec 25 18:32:03 dos1: i had a heart attack when i saw amarok Dec 25 18:32:28 Doesn't work with amarok, I guess. Works with others. Dec 25 18:32:28 jonkristian: rm /var/lib/opkg/* Dec 25 18:33:02 Digital_Pioneer: i only did xhost +, and DISPLAY=192.168.2.202:0 Dec 25 18:33:08 nothing else Dec 25 18:33:19 ouch, amarok? isn't that waay too rescource hungry? Dec 25 18:33:29 dos1: thanks ill try tahat Dec 25 18:33:30 Yeah. Amarok didn't work with it, kdesu true did. :P Dec 25 18:33:31 that* Dec 25 18:34:05 jonkristian: Unless they make a mobile version, I would think so. However, using the DISPLAY trick, you're using the other computers resources and FR's screen. :) Dec 25 18:34:23 yeah Dec 25 18:34:35 Digital_Pioneer: aren't you an archlinux user? Dec 25 18:34:54 archlinux rocks Dec 25 18:34:56 dos1: still got the same md5sum mismatch thingy, maybe something wrong with shr repo Dec 25 18:35:00 jonkristian: Indeed, I am an Arch fan. Dec 25 18:35:11 Digital_Pioneer: I knew i've seen that nick before;) Dec 25 18:35:35 I've mostly disowned my Arch-running desktop since I got my laptop though. :\ Dec 25 18:35:57 I've only found one distro that runs on this laptop, and that's Pardus. A little-known turkish distro. Good thing I like it. :P Dec 25 18:36:27 Digital_pioneer: what would you say if i told you i am making a distro archlinux-based Dec 25 18:36:28 ? Dec 25 18:36:32 The occasional turkish program is annoying, but it's a remarkably useful little distro. Dec 25 18:36:33 jonkristian: so ask quickdev Dec 25 18:36:40 admiral0: I would say can I get an ISO? Dec 25 18:37:03 no, you can't it's for the freerunner XD Dec 25 18:37:24 I've been working on an LFS system. It's LFS-based, and has no package manager. A pet project. :) Dec 25 18:37:41 That's all I can brag as far as distro-making goes. Dec 25 18:37:51 admiral0: Can I get a jffs2? :P Dec 25 18:38:06 ihave only kernel and busybox yet Dec 25 18:38:35 quickdev: ping. Package libframeworkd-glib0 md5sum mismatch. Dec 25 18:38:48 Ahh, OK. Dec 25 18:39:01 I don't like busybox. :P Dec 25 18:39:51 me neither, but it's fast and little Dec 25 18:40:00 jonkristian, #openmoko-cdevel Dec 25 18:40:02 i'll provide bash anyway Dec 25 18:40:28 Gooood. Dec 25 18:40:40 I'm drowning in this fake shell on the FR. Hahah Dec 25 18:40:55 XD Dec 25 18:42:48 Ugh, and I hate the excuse it has for less. You can't even /search. Dec 25 18:43:31 less? Dec 25 18:43:37 i use more Dec 25 18:43:42 Heheheh Dec 25 18:43:54 More doesn't let you go up and down does it? Dec 25 18:44:00 Just down, page-by-page, isn't it? Dec 25 18:44:27 yes Dec 25 18:44:45 Yeah, what good is that? I can't go back. :P Dec 25 18:45:00 busybox. Dec 25 18:45:11 You can install replacement utils pack Dec 25 18:46:44 you convinced me Dec 25 18:46:54 i need a virtual machine Dec 25 18:47:29 SpeedEvil: Ehh? Dec 25 18:47:39 * rooly is ecstatic Dec 25 18:47:56 the default utils are mostly supplied by look-alikes that are provided by busybox. Dec 25 18:48:08 you can install the proper official ones. Dec 25 18:48:42 You can? Dec 25 19:10:00 no way to change the kb in 2008.12? Dec 25 19:14:01 i hope so Dec 25 19:14:14 but dont know! Dec 25 19:50:27 soon I will have some time on a 3D plotter to experiment with new casings, but for Linux I don't know which 3D modelling software to use, BRL-CAD is the only one that can import the iges files. any other open source 3D modelling apps that are out there? Dec 25 19:52:50 Pander, you mean like blender? Dec 25 19:53:05 Does the FR collect its time from the GSM network? Dec 25 19:53:17 (Time of day) Dec 25 19:53:33 im not sure Dec 25 19:53:38 Digital_Pioneer: afaik very few operators send it Dec 25 19:54:03 lindi-: Most every cell phone in the USA gets time from the network. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 25 20:01:16 2008 Dec 25 20:01:20 Yay for the Xft.dpi property! Dec 25 20:47:41 !seen morphis Dec 25 20:47:42 I found 3 matches to your query (sorted): morphis_ morphis morphis|feiern. morphis_ (n=morphis@p54898097.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) was last seen quitting from #openmoko 5 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes ago stating (Client Quit). Dec 25 21:49:37 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r42bda5dbf045 10/framework/ (netlink.py services.py): add netlink constants Dec 25 22:49:02 hi, is anyone around? Dec 25 22:51:51 no. Dec 25 23:03:01 hi, is anyone stuffed? Dec 25 23:03:28 I know I am:D Dec 25 23:04:08 Club of stuffed animals? ;) Dec 25 23:33:04 Shouldnt be any problem making a partition on mmcblk0p2 and mount /home to it? Dec 25 23:34:43 in theory nope Dec 25 23:35:06 i mean, sounds reasonable Dec 25 23:37:30 Hmm. Think Ill try out that. Thanks for reply! :-) Dec 25 23:47:17 jokerfox: chown it once after you mount it Dec 25 23:47:48 jokerfox: ah wait.. there are no users.. Dec 26 00:39:20 <[Rui]> wow so many around, hi all! Dec 26 00:42:10 Where are SMSs stored? :\ Dec 26 00:46:23 if had to guess i would say sim card Dec 26 00:46:56 Then how do I get at them? The SMS reader in SHR is broken. Dec 26 00:47:19 worked for me do you have antenna bars? Dec 26 00:47:31 It would appear that all the text after an & in the message is lost. Given the first text in many of my SMSs is AT&T, that's a problem. :P Dec 26 00:48:01 I do. Dec 26 00:51:15 Digital_Pioneer: For 2007.2 it's /home/root/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics Dec 26 00:52:13 If that's what SHR still uses... Dec 26 00:52:29 Quadduc: I don't have Evolution. Dec 26 00:52:56 The SMS app uses that location still. Dec 26 00:53:15 Weird. I don't have that dir. Dec 26 00:59:21 anybody here?, plz help me :( Dec 26 01:00:01 GSM no signal Dec 26 01:00:37 i using distro 2008.12 Dec 26 01:01:01 RJ812: Is there a signal where you are? ;) Dec 26 01:01:06 VietNam Dec 26 01:01:58 have signal on there Dec 26 01:02:18 hey, does anyone know how to make the the freerunner connect to a wireless network? Dec 26 01:02:42 there is good signal on Nokia phone Dec 26 01:10:53 who can help me, plz Dec 26 01:11:13 I wish I could, but I don't even have a SIM card yet Dec 26 01:16:04 :( Dec 26 01:16:53 look at the bright side, after sitting here for about 12 hours now, my phone now magically connected to my home wireless network. Dec 26 01:20:31 there is good GSM signal on NOkia and Iphone, but on FR there isnt Dec 26 01:21:36 I wish I knew what to tell you other than freerunner is still a work in progress, but I suppose you know that Dec 26 01:25:42 how long does flashing a root image normally take? Dec 26 01:26:55 <[Rui]> for me it takes about 20min total Dec 26 01:27:27 okey dokey, thanks Dec 26 01:59:20 jhass840: in a terminal run logread. Look for CSQ lines - the first value is 0-31 for signal strength, if 99 its unknown (not registered?) Dec 26 02:01:10 jhass840: sorry, that should have been to RJ812 Dec 26 02:01:25 billk: ok okay Dec 26 02:01:57 RJ812: are you using the illume theme? - I find the GSM icon is flakey in that theme Dec 26 02:21:35 Hello, does anybody know how to build Om2008.12 from scratch? Dec 26 02:23:12 make someoneelse Dec 26 02:23:33 I'd check the wiki for MokoMakefile Dec 26 02:23:54 I have no idea if it's appropriate, but with luck, if it's not, there will be a link Dec 26 02:25:01 SpeedEvil: the problem is that there are too many howtos out there to build an openmoko image, none being a "definite" source, and all sources I tried failed at some point Dec 26 02:25:24 the last failure I got is: "| opkg_cmd.c:154: error: call to function 'free_error_list' without a real prototype" Dec 26 02:25:54 :/ Dec 26 02:26:08 how long into the process? Dec 26 02:26:09 This error is documented in http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2155 , but the last message on the ticket is 3 weeks old, presumably because the bug is fixed Dec 26 02:26:40 taks 561 Dec 26 02:26:52 so apparently, I have the wrong (old) tree Dec 26 02:27:10 but I do not know how to switch to a new|development|Om2008.12 tree Dec 26 02:30:07 and http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile also seems to be down, so I cannot reinitate a clean build process **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 26 02:59:57 2008