**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 02 02:59:57 2009 Jan 02 03:39:26 damn Jan 02 03:39:33 that angstrom repository killed my applications Jan 02 03:39:49 any idea how to revert the last "opkg install" with all it's dependencies? Jan 02 03:43:24 did u backup? Jan 02 03:50:05 of course not Jan 02 03:50:09 i just wanted to go to bed Jan 02 03:50:15 and listen to some audio Jan 02 03:50:30 i realized i need an media player Jan 02 03:50:42 installed that according to some howto and ... fun. Jan 02 03:52:50 moritz, same happened here Jan 02 03:52:54 it fucked my X Jan 02 03:53:03 then I moved to SHR, and all my problems were solved Jan 02 04:16:32 how does one get the black keyboard with white letters in 2008.12? Jan 02 04:17:23 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pidgin Jan 02 04:17:33 as seen on this page Jan 02 04:20:47 Aphasia wow thats nice Jan 02 04:30:49 brian__: Well, that's the "asu" theme vs. the "illume" theme Jan 02 04:31:22 i need the asu theme then? Jan 02 04:31:48 i have the wrench Jan 02 04:32:23 still have that crappy keyboard with no terminal Jan 02 04:39:37 fso coming up Jan 02 04:43:22 fuck Jan 02 04:43:36 no idea how to restore my freerunner into a working state Jan 02 04:43:42 (without flashing) Jan 02 04:43:51 moritz1: you know how you broke it? Jan 02 04:43:55 yes Jan 02 04:44:04 i was so dumb to enable that angstrom repository Jan 02 04:44:10 and type opkg install mplayer Jan 02 04:44:22 afterwards programs did not run anymore Jan 02 04:44:27 openmoko-terminal2 segfaulted Jan 02 04:44:35 and needless to say, X doesnt come up anymore Jan 02 04:44:48 moritz1: you root filesystem is on the internal flash or on an SD card? Jan 02 04:44:50 although i tried to reinstall every single dependency of mplayer Jan 02 04:44:54 ssh in an opkh remove mplayer Jan 02 04:44:55 from openmoko repository Jan 02 04:44:59 internal, sadly Jan 02 04:45:08 brian_: that is not the problem Jan 02 04:45:09 moritz1: can you ssh into the freerunner? Jan 02 04:45:14 yes Jan 02 04:45:34 moritz1: do you know a program which crashes consistently when trying? Jan 02 04:45:43 yes Jan 02 04:45:46 openmoko-terminal2 Jan 02 04:45:52 for instance Jan 02 04:45:56 several others too Jan 02 04:45:57 try running "strace -f openmoko-terminal2" Jan 02 04:46:44 let me use dillo as a test case Jan 02 04:46:54 dillo crashes before initializing X Jan 02 04:46:57 openmoko not Jan 02 04:47:02 -terminal, i mean Jan 02 04:47:03 how you like, shouldn't matter Jan 02 04:47:10 gettimeofday({1230957588, 487673}, NULL) = 0 Jan 02 04:47:10 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- Jan 02 04:47:10 +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ Jan 02 04:47:10 Process 692 detached Jan 02 04:47:13 those are the last lines Jan 02 04:47:27 which is the last library loaded before the crash? Jan 02 04:48:11 what is an easy to way to grep for the appropriate lines? Jan 02 04:48:13 there are so many Jan 02 04:48:18 (lines) Jan 02 04:48:40 strace -f dillo 2>&1 | grep /lib Jan 02 04:49:16 the last on is libexpat Jan 02 04:49:44 well, verify that this library is actually installed correctly Jan 02 04:50:01 i doubt that the mplayer installation touched libexpat Jan 02 04:50:09 (but this is just a guess of many guesses) Jan 02 04:50:17 but it's a good thing that you reminde my of strace Jan 02 04:50:28 i was already bitching about not having ldd on the phone Jan 02 04:50:36 I'm checking whether gdb is available Jan 02 04:52:47 actually, it is... Jan 02 04:52:52 opkg install gdb Jan 02 04:56:44 i think you saved me Jan 02 04:57:08 seems it was libfontconfig1 Jan 02 04:57:13 (rebooting now) Jan 02 04:57:22 gdb showed me Jan 02 04:57:32 :-) Jan 02 04:57:39 but this tells me furthermore that opkg wasn't rellay doing what it said it was doing Jan 02 04:57:53 damn Jan 02 04:57:57 still not booting with X Jan 02 04:58:10 well, opkg once ran me out of filesystem space and then my /lib/libc.so.6 was missing... ;-) Jan 02 04:58:33 hrrm Jan 02 04:58:36 .o(wtf?) Jan 02 04:59:13 even this was fixable... just boot from SDcard and then check what's missing by chrooting into the internal flash filesystem... Jan 02 04:59:41 having more than one boot medium is a very wise design decision Jan 02 05:00:06 by the way: does anyone know how to get GPRS working? Jan 02 05:02:08 rehi... Jan 02 05:02:14 by the way: does anyone know how to get GPRS working? Jan 02 05:02:42 i am angry at opkg Jan 02 05:02:44 for fooling me Jan 02 05:02:59 had to manually reinstall libpng12-0 and libfontconfig-1 Jan 02 05:03:02 (for the record) Jan 02 05:03:13 seems that it is back to a working state Jan 02 05:03:15 damn Jan 02 05:03:19 and it's 6:00 am by now Jan 02 05:04:03 thanks for the help, i'm off Jan 02 05:04:22 moritz1: good night :-) Jan 02 05:04:36 moritz1: have a nice sleep at 6:04 CET (same timezone for me) Jan 02 05:54:52 i got android running on my freerunner. for about 2 seconds Jan 02 05:54:57 it then goes into autoshutdown Jan 02 05:55:15 which it sometimes is successful at and sometimes loops endlessly trying to do it. Jan 02 05:56:58 sounds like me an fso m4 Jan 02 05:57:11 seems weird Jan 02 05:57:54 i want some md5sum # is what i want Jan 02 06:00:57 i think the releases are far enough apart to implement md5sums now Jan 02 06:01:08 fdom is Jan 02 06:02:52 why does the debian arm have so much bulk? Jan 02 06:03:06 where are the most recent sean mcneil images? the only ones i can find are old Jan 02 06:03:08 from early dec Jan 02 06:03:22 thats LAST YEAR now :p Jan 02 06:03:29 gosh Jan 02 06:03:52 seems like everybody is on vacation:) Jan 02 06:05:50 qtopia provides the # right on thee download page:) Jan 02 06:55:14 does anybody has a "sshfs" binary package (ipk file) available or know where I can get one? Jan 02 07:25:23 So, what games do you guys like for FR? Jan 02 07:25:39 I'd love to see some kind of Yahtzee game for it. :) Jan 02 07:29:42 Digital_Pioneer: you shake phone to shuffle & throw ? Jan 02 07:29:53 LOL, would be a nice touch. Jan 02 07:31:25 (patent pending) Jan 02 07:33:00 On what? Jan 02 07:58:23 happy new year to everynbody Jan 02 07:58:33 everybody Jan 02 08:05:31 You too! Jan 02 09:18:05 good morning Jan 02 09:18:29 Mornin Jan 02 09:58:14 ahoi Jan 02 10:27:33 hi all, my desktop starts to get overloaded with icons for my own programs :-) i there an easy way to make submenu's so one icons opens a new set of related icons? Jan 02 10:29:53 not yet Jan 02 10:30:56 there are submenus in some distro arent there? Jan 02 10:34:43 hmm. ok, i will dig some more in xmessage and see if i can get a working sollution that way. not really icons, but buttons..... oh well Jan 02 10:34:43 Hi, I'm new here :) How can I see which distro I got with my freerunner? Or where to read? I can do ssh to it ... Jan 02 10:35:53 rud_ have you ever flashed the freerunner? Jan 02 10:36:31 well, if you run uname -a it will give you the version of your kernel. that would help to find out what distro you are on right now Jan 02 10:37:01 not yet, I can dial and receive calls. dfu-util I have already in place. Jan 02 10:37:31 rud_ i think you have the 2007.x version of openmoko Jan 02 10:38:43 ok, will try to tell here. Is 2008.12 recommended? Jan 02 10:40:49 for me 2008.12 is a nice distro. i am still hunted by the buzzz bug, and i sometimes miss an sms, but other than that it is workable Jan 02 10:41:56 i prefer shr at the moment Jan 02 10:42:08 it's more usable for me Jan 02 10:42:59 thanks for your advices, will try both of them, over time. Buzzz bug is ... ? Jan 02 10:43:15 ...a very bad thing. Jan 02 10:44:02 it is a hardware problem, where RF signal is fed tot the mic input. the calling party will hear a buzzing humming noise Jan 02 10:44:56 but you might have no problem at all. i have it a certain places and not at all in other places.... it seems to depend on you location Jan 02 10:48:38 uname -a gets: Jan 02 10:48:41 Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Thu Apr 24 08:23:36 CST 2008 armv4tl unknown Jan 02 10:50:10 Thu Apr 24 08:23:36 CST 2008 so if you check the release date's you can guestimate the version Jan 02 10:50:48 thanks Jan 02 10:51:31 but it really is old, so i would recomend upgrading Jan 02 10:52:13 as i said 2007.x Jan 02 11:37:42 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r1f31126dfc03 10/src/ (consts.vala main.vala obj.vala): first introspection bits Jan 02 11:37:42 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r4f18a95bb7be 10/src/obj.vala: ListObjectPaths now works Jan 02 11:40:00 freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07fso-makefile * r21090a500b82 10/Makefile: Removed SHR targets and split gta01 and gta02 into separate targets so the autobuilder can build them separately. Jan 02 11:40:00 freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * r9fc3080d6fa6 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Moved to new OE git repository location Jan 02 11:40:02 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * r786a99f0c55b 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Updated the SHR directives (migration from SVN to GIT, plus some options). Jan 02 11:40:03 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * r856c426bca3b 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Added the topdir.conf generation. Jan 02 11:40:04 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * r9ab2385a6bb1 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Correct modification of topdir.conf Jan 02 11:40:07 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * rede541822e9d 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Damn me. Should look twice before putting dumb repositories... Jan 02 11:40:10 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * r5e05da713ceb 10fso-makefile/Makefile: TOPDIR is install directory plus subdirectory. Jan 02 11:40:13 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * rd6fa6c5d7a25 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Jan 02 11:40:16 freesmartphone.org: setup-env borks on topdir.conf because of missing export. Jan 02 11:40:18 freesmartphone.org: This thing is eventually going to work, isn't it? Jan 02 11:40:24 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * ra1dc477dc436 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Removed spaces on topdir. It'll work someday, somehow. Jan 02 11:40:27 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * r5bd2ee830083 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Inverted the inclusion of order of sane srcrev files to put shr-autorev first. Jan 02 11:40:30 freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07refs/remotes/origin/master * r9fc3080d6fa6 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Moved to new OE git repository location Jan 02 11:40:35 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/master * r786a99f0c55b 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Updated the SHR directives (migration from SVN to GIT, plus some options). Jan 02 11:40:38 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/master * r856c426bca3b 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Added the topdir.conf generation. Jan 02 11:40:41 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/master * r9ab2385a6bb1 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Correct modification of topdir.conf Jan 02 11:40:46 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/master * rede541822e9d 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Damn me. Should look twice before putting dumb repositories... Jan 02 11:40:49 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/master * r5e05da713ceb 10fso-makefile/Makefile: TOPDIR is install directory plus subdirectory. Jan 02 11:40:52 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/master * rd6fa6c5d7a25 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Jan 02 11:40:57 freesmartphone.org: setup-env borks on topdir.conf because of missing export. Jan 02 11:40:59 freesmartphone.org: This thing is eventually going to work, isn't it? Jan 02 11:41:01 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/master * ra1dc477dc436 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Removed spaces on topdir. It'll work someday, somehow. Jan 02 11:41:04 freesmartphone.org: 03ainulindale 07refs/remotes/origin/master * r5bd2ee830083 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Inverted the inclusion of order of sane srcrev files to put shr-autorev first. Jan 02 11:41:40 hmm Jan 02 11:41:44 refs/remotes/origin/master ? Jan 02 11:41:49 strange branch name Jan 02 11:42:29 dunno what happened there. I checked in a single commit and all ainulindale stuff got spewed out. Jan 02 11:43:14 mickeyl: I updated the Makefile so there are separate gta01 and gta02 targets that the autobuilder can now tickle separately. Jan 02 11:43:30 ah, cool Jan 02 11:43:34 would you mind adding some new devices? Jan 02 11:43:38 (to the autobuilder) Jan 02 11:44:06 we want to target at least the a780 with milestone5 as well Jan 02 11:44:40 ok, what's the machine name to add? Jan 02 11:47:19 how can i SSH to my phone? Jan 02 11:47:25 i have inserted USB Jan 02 11:49:18 frankS2: set the USB0 ip address : 192.168.0.200 Jan 02 11:49:28 ok Jan 02 11:49:28 frankS2: then ssh root@192.168.0.202 Jan 02 11:49:37 whats the pass? Jan 02 11:50:36 the root password is empty Jan 02 11:51:01 ok Jan 02 11:51:04 i set it to something nw Jan 02 11:51:05 mmm Jan 02 11:51:12 where is the "space" key? Jan 02 11:51:20 for ifconfig usb0 Jan 02 11:51:31 i only have letters, and # and * Jan 02 11:52:06 no space lol Jan 02 11:52:31 frankS2: what distro on the freerunner ? Jan 02 11:52:49 hmm i just opened it Jan 02 11:52:54 so im not sure Jan 02 11:53:11 usbnet is up by default Jan 02 11:53:17 u dont need to bring it up on the phone Jan 02 11:53:38 frankS2: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking Jan 02 11:54:45 thanks mate Jan 02 11:57:45 freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07fso-makefile * ref9432687797 10/Makefile: Added support for a780 Jan 02 11:57:45 freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * r21090a500b82 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Removed SHR targets and split gta01 and gta02 into separate targets so the autobuilder can build them separately. Jan 02 11:57:47 freesmartphone.org: 03rod 07refs/remotes/origin/master * r21090a500b82 10fso-makefile/Makefile: Removed SHR targets and split gta01 and gta02 into separate targets so the autobuilder can build them separately. Jan 02 11:58:03 frank@hax0r ~ $ ssh root@10.0.0.123 Jan 02 11:58:04 ssh: connect to host 10.0.0.123 port 22: No route to host Jan 02 11:58:08 i set it to .123 Jan 02 11:58:35 can you ping it? Jan 02 12:00:05 nop Jan 02 12:00:19 then make sure the interface is up on the phone... Jan 02 12:00:59 ma\be i have to define "usb0" on the desktop computer Jan 02 12:00:59 in ssh Jan 02 12:02:25 i think you need 192.168.0.202 instead of 10.0.0.123 Jan 02 12:02:38 hm you think? Jan 02 12:03:08 that is the default ip for the freerunner Jan 02 12:03:13 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 ( on your desktop pc) Jan 02 12:03:22 ping -I usb0 192.168.0.202 Jan 02 12:04:50 wuu Jan 02 12:04:51 yea Jan 02 12:04:54 edje2: it responds to ping Jan 02 12:05:09 mickeyl: nslu2-linux has just paid Jan 02 12:05:11 please read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking Jan 02 12:05:16 root@om-gta02:~# uname -ra Jan 02 12:05:16 Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Thu Apr 24 08:23:36 CST 2008 armv4tl unknown Jan 02 12:05:17 root@om-gta02:~# Jan 02 12:05:20 =) Jan 02 12:05:23 you can now also ssh 192.168.0.202 Jan 02 12:05:41 ah, allready there Jan 02 12:05:58 mickeyl: USD$600 for new disks for the autobuilder. any way we can ask freesmartphone.org users to make some small donation to the cause? Jan 02 12:06:02 now i want some apps :P there's nothing on the phone by default Jan 02 12:06:06 i would recomend flashing it to OM2008.12 first Jan 02 12:06:29 edje2: ok, you have an URL for that too? Jan 02 12:07:08 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing Jan 02 12:07:19 thanks Jan 02 12:08:58 I love the carry case for the phone, it smells like my diving gloves Jan 02 12:09:01 neoprene <3 Jan 02 12:09:32 =] Jan 02 12:10:24 rwhitby: sure, we could toss a request towards the fso-userland and oe lists Jan 02 12:10:43 rwhitby: do you have a template for that? Jan 02 12:10:58 sure, let me give you a url for the email we sent to other lists Jan 02 12:12:46 mickeyl: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.nslu2.general/7647 - just replace 'Optware' with 'downloads.freesmartphone.org' etc. and other related changes. Jan 02 12:12:55 oki Jan 02 12:13:01 (it's the same autobuilder machine) Jan 02 12:13:43 no need to make it too heavy - we're surviving fine, it would just be nice to have a buffer :-) Jan 02 12:14:23 mickeyl: should I start an a780 build now? Jan 02 12:14:55 yes, thanks. it should run through, and if not, we need to fix it sooner than later Jan 02 12:16:14 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * rfd81f5e0ee50 10/src/obj.vala: ListObjectsByInterface now works Jan 02 12:17:31 Hi Jan 02 12:17:49 I am trying to Install Openmoko on my free runner Jan 02 12:18:06 yes? Jan 02 12:18:34 When I connect the device via USB, I am unable to find any device file like /dev/mmcblk0 Jan 02 12:18:47 mickeyl: ok, testing and unstable builds enabled for a780 machine. It should attempt to build within the next couple of hours. You can monitor at http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builders/testing%40freesmartphone.org/ filtering for a780. Jan 02 12:18:58 mib_l70v9z: you want to flash new software, no? Jan 02 12:19:06 yeah Jan 02 12:19:22 you need dfu-util Jan 02 12:19:46 apt-get it if you're using ubuntu Jan 02 12:19:52 I just want to place the installation on SD card instead of NAND memory. I am following the instaructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Partioning_the_SD_card Jan 02 12:20:05 igor321: I have dfu-util with me Jan 02 12:20:20 i don't think neo works as a card reader like that Jan 02 12:20:30 But for installing it on SD card, I need to partion it in to ext3 and fat file systems .. Jan 02 12:20:32 you have to partition the card with a standalone one Jan 02 12:21:23 what you could do is flash to nand, and then ssh into your fr to partition Jan 02 12:21:36 you can also do http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_the_Neo_as_an_USB_Mass_storage_device if you do not have an external SD reader Jan 02 12:22:17 But the wiki says, when i connect the freerunner with a SD card in it, my ubuntu(Host PC) /dev/mmcblk0 Jan 02 12:22:42 i mean my host computer must detect the SD card as /dev/mmcblk0 Jan 02 12:22:52 but my ubuntu i not detecting so Jan 02 12:22:59 any clues please ? Jan 02 12:23:08 rwhitby: awesome, thanks Jan 02 12:23:39 mib_l70v9z: where does the wiki say that Jan 02 12:24:53 igor321: refer the link http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Partioning_the_SD_card Jan 02 12:25:47 mib_l70v9z: it's about the FR, not your desktop computer. Jan 02 12:26:30 yes, the commands there, you issue on the fr Jan 02 12:27:40 Can i execute those commands by connecting the SD card to my Pc ?? Jan 02 12:28:38 how can i change my ring tone? Jan 02 12:28:52 depending on the reader you either get mmcblk0 or sdX (X is a letter depending on your machine). If you type 'dmesg' in a termainal you will see which of the two it is. And yes you can extract the OS onto the card directly on your PC. Jan 02 12:28:52 mib_l70v9z: probably only similar commands. the card will be recognized as /dev/sdb or something similar. Jan 02 12:29:10 ok Jan 02 12:31:03 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r8205f5bde4a4 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): ship dbus service file and configuration to make it system-activatable Jan 02 12:34:33 Anyone know how I can change my ring tone? Jan 02 12:34:44 i found this /usr/share/openmoko/sounds Jan 02 12:43:16 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * re617a71ac3a8 10/ (ChangeLog Makefile.am README configure.ac src/main.vala): live on the system bus, release as 0.9.0 Jan 02 12:49:25 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * ra665ba6c8cec 10/Makefile.am: live in sbin Jan 02 13:11:21 anyone working with om-manager? it seems not to be able to find my FR when flashing. it always says "no device found" (similar). Jan 02 13:15:18 Does any one installed Android on Free runner ? Jan 02 13:15:46 So i wanted to rip a dvd to put on the fr since im traveling today, but the whole project got messed up. I followed this wiki entry, http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Video_Player and i did the stuff under transcoding to get the video. I also did the note about glamo chipset and downloaded the mplayer binary. But the video is way to small. Jan 02 13:16:07 mib_l70v9z: yes i did, but quickly removed it. It's not usable yet afaik Jan 02 13:17:31 i did this in console, mplayer -vo xover:glamo -vf video.avi Jan 02 13:18:29 jonkristian: Thats great. I installed in to on my SD card. The initial boot is taking so much time Jan 02 13:18:44 The AUX LED is blinking continously Jan 02 13:19:03 It is there like that from almost 20 minutes Jan 02 13:19:04 it took some time to boot, yeah. Jan 02 13:19:14 hm, then something is wrong. Jan 02 13:19:36 Aprrox, how much time does it take ? Jan 02 13:19:57 don't remember, but not 20min Jan 02 13:21:09 Which one did u try ? Jan 02 13:21:16 Koolu's or Sean's ? Jan 02 13:21:27 mib_l70v9z: seans Jan 02 13:22:03 Ok.. I tried with Koolu's image. I will try with Sean's image now .. Jan 02 13:22:44 for anyone interested: removing the dfu-util from the app/bin/ works fine for me. after removing /usr/local/sbin (doesn't exist here, so python throws an error) from PATH... Jan 02 13:23:05 jonkristian: Just a quick question. I manually copied the uImage and android.jffs2 files on vfat and ext3 partitions on My sd card. Does it sound correct ? Jan 02 13:23:38 no Jan 02 13:23:42 mib_l70v9z: flash Jan 02 13:24:05 mib_l70v9z: don't use sd, but you need those partitions for it to boot, also make sure you have a simcard without pin Jan 02 13:24:18 mib_l70v9z: jffs is a filesystem for flash devices. nothing else. Jan 02 13:24:53 But, anyone got any suggestions about the video problem? Jan 02 13:25:07 tried in pythm now, but the size is still too small. Jan 02 13:26:21 jonkristan: Does the NAND memory is sufficient for flashing android ? Jan 02 13:30:59 what is this? http://rafb.net/p/kq2zKx79.html Jan 02 13:31:15 mib_l70v9z: you flash the android just like you would flash any other image. Jan 02 13:32:20 jonkristian: Ok .. Jan 02 13:49:59 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * rb2d69aae208c 10/data/ (3 files): Jan 02 13:49:59 freesmartphone.org: rename dbus service file, needs to be the _exact_ name of the service otherwise we get the infamous Jan 02 13:49:59 freesmartphone.org: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.FailedToSetup: Failed to setup environment correctly" Jan 02 14:01:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * re82bb41c8f7b 10/src/obj.vala: fix parser to also recognize objects and interfaces with digits in the name Jan 02 14:16:55 if mokoMakefile gives me this: http://pastebin.com/m265a2435 , what am I doing wrong? Jan 02 14:32:58 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * re7344b24c9f9 10/framework/subsystems/odeviced/kernel26.py: odeviced: register real time clock also under incremental object path Jan 02 14:33:03 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r8eaaf983d3db 10/framework/subsystems/otimed/alarm.py: Jan 02 14:33:03 freesmartphone.org: otimed: alarm: use "hardcoded" path to default real time clock Jan 02 14:33:03 freesmartphone.org: also: do not introspect and follow name owner changes, so that Jan 02 14:33:03 freesmartphone.org: odeviced has not to be present at subsystem launch time Jan 02 14:33:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * ra4d9cc759461 10/framework/subsystems/otimed/ (alarm.py otimed.py): Jan 02 14:33:08 freesmartphone.org: otimed: use lazy dbus object binding, so that ogsmd has not to be present Jan 02 14:33:10 freesmartphone.org: at subsystem launch time Jan 02 14:33:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r5f9375fd5dc1 10/framework/objectquery.py: Jan 02 14:33:14 freesmartphone.org: framework: objectquery: remove ListObjects from interface, this will now be Jan 02 14:33:16 freesmartphone.org: handled by the new dbus-hlid project. Jan 02 14:41:26 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07zhone * rb222777ac3f2 10/src/zhone: do not use ListObjectsByInterface, if not necessary Jan 02 15:16:19 Uh stupid question time: Jan 02 15:16:34 Is it at all possible to install openmoko/one of the distros on a HTC Touch Diamond? Jan 02 15:16:51 Someone PM'd me on a forum and asked, i have little/no idea about non-FR phones :P Jan 02 15:38:25 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r335 10/trunk/python-elementary/ (TODO elementary/elementary.c_elementary.pyx tests/test.py): Next fix for toggle.state_set Jan 02 15:47:17 on wiki theres a compatible list :) Jan 02 15:47:29 and i think that it won't run : Jan 02 15:48:04 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_Hardware Jan 02 16:00:14 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rd9d411876307 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jan 02 16:00:14 freesmartphone.org: oeventsd: Add an OccupyResource action plus some corresponding rules. Jan 02 16:00:14 freesmartphone.org: NOTE: See rules file for one testing rule which is still outcommented. Jan 02 16:09:41 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * ra2b8903ce404 10/tools/cli-framework: cli-framework: use dbus-hlid Jan 02 16:34:23 any good reason for switching from 2008.12 to debian? Jan 02 16:56:25 it works? Jan 02 16:57:19 ima trying 2008.12 with no modifications to see if its any better Jan 02 17:17:03 in SHR, after the screen blanks, clicking on the screen to wake it up seems to be treated as a real click on whatever was displayed underneath? Jan 02 17:45:01 Slaxxer: lete me know your result :) Jan 02 17:56:35 does anyone have experience with "pythm"? I cannot choose any files Jan 02 19:12:11 why is the events/0 eating up my cpu usage when i am streaming stuff? Jan 02 19:13:04 good question Jan 02 19:13:10 this happens to me, too Jan 02 19:13:15 android has softkeyboard now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Nvy3iRffM Jan 02 19:16:37 kW: is it over wlan, bluetooth or usb? Jan 02 19:17:08 feitingen: well, it seems to be separate to the WLAN SDIO ecents/0 bug Jan 02 19:17:23 feitingen: but currently, I control the freerunner over WLAN, while the video file is local Jan 02 19:17:43 and it still eats cpu? Jan 02 19:18:16 feitingen: yes Jan 02 19:18:18 how long before theres a .jffs2 file with that keyboard Jan 02 19:18:49 kW: i may be wrong, but i think the glamo chip is on the SDIO bus Jan 02 19:19:27 you're wrong Jan 02 19:19:35 i hoped so Jan 02 19:19:38 the SDIO bus is on the glamo chip Jan 02 19:19:42 feitingen: this may be... when I just play audio using mplayer, then events/0 eats about 5.8% CPU Jan 02 19:19:44 Which is nearly as bad Jan 02 19:20:12 i see.. Jan 02 19:21:09 which is one reason why some people dislike the glamo chip strongly? Jan 02 19:21:31 feitingen: when I just play video using mplayer (no audio), then events/0 eats about 4.1% CPU Jan 02 19:22:15 kW: i will try streaming over bluetooth and see what happens Jan 02 19:23:58 interestingly, mplayer seems to take more CPU resources for decoding audio than for decoding video Jan 02 19:24:23 maybe because the glamo chip decodes the video Jan 02 19:24:54 feitingen: yes, maybe, but then it is quite disappointing that the glamo chip cannot decode video at full resolution (480*640) Jan 02 19:25:55 kW: true.. Jan 02 19:26:07 Slaxxer: i think there already is one Jan 02 19:26:24 the sources are in koolu git Jan 02 19:26:38 just nobody bothered to compile it Jan 02 19:27:27 well... watching a DVD (stored on an 8GB SDHC card) would be quite a nice application Jan 02 19:28:15 kW: eh... i think you could just forget that. Jan 02 19:28:21 Wonka: why? Jan 02 19:28:40 Naah. Jan 02 19:28:40 kW: not nearly enough cpu (or gpu) power to do the mpeg2 decoding? Jan 02 19:28:47 The backlight normally goes up to 65536. Jan 02 19:28:52 another nice thing would be android emulation and iphone emulation... then all the apps for these platforms could run on FSO... Jan 02 19:29:04 Ello Jan 02 19:29:09 You need to unlock the chip to do 32 bit, then set the brightness to max, and add a projector lens. Jan 02 19:29:12 Wonka: is mpeg2 as expensive to decode as mpeg4? Jan 02 19:29:21 kW: can be cheaper Jan 02 19:29:27 yeah, someone needs to port dalvik vm, the android browser is hottt Jan 02 19:29:29 I'm currently running on buiold 2008.8 is there a way to upgrade to 2008.12 w/o flashing? Jan 02 19:29:36 less... but it's in PAL (or NTSC) resolution Jan 02 19:29:50 SpeedEvil: maybe it is possible... or maybe it requires a pre-transcoding step Jan 02 19:31:12 ... I bet I overlooked something -.- Jan 02 19:31:23 is the S-Media company (the one which produce the glamo chipset) out of business? Jan 02 19:31:54 kW: android and iphone emulation with 199 mips? Jan 02 19:31:58 kW: transcoding is almost trivial Jan 02 19:32:14 kW: it's the right command line to mplayer, and you're done. (preferrably on the host system) Jan 02 19:32:23 \/win 5 Jan 02 19:32:26 oops Jan 02 19:32:30 /fail 5 Jan 02 19:32:36 :) Jan 02 19:33:27 feitingen: well, the iphone has a 650MHz ARM CPU, the freerunner has a 400 MHz ARM CPU Jan 02 19:33:43 kW: arm and arm has differences Jan 02 19:35:15 Tm_T: yes, that's where the emulation part has to step in... ;-) Jan 02 19:35:35 Tm_T: but I think android would be a more interesting target anyway Jan 02 19:36:03