**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 14 02:59:57 2009 Jan 14 03:18:57 anybody try the latest shr? Jan 14 03:20:59 from russia with much love Jan 14 03:33:01 brian__: is it for people that don't speak Russian too? Jan 14 03:35:46 are you talking about shr-ultraunstable heh? Jan 14 03:36:15 I think I need to try that build, it sounds exceedingly daring Jan 14 04:17:24 yes it is it is great Jan 14 04:17:33 u gotta try it Jan 14 04:18:19 anybody remember my asking how to get a terminal keyboard with a black background? Jan 14 04:18:54 no this is a russian build Jan 14 04:19:41 ah now I understand your comment Jan 14 04:19:44 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Bytestore Jan 14 04:21:05 I was talking about this one http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-ultraunstable/images/om-gta02/ Jan 14 04:21:26 new build from today Jan 14 04:21:36 naa Jan 14 04:21:50 i need a phone Jan 14 04:22:11 lots of good programs on this Jan 14 04:22:25 its like a shr-fdom Jan 14 04:22:37 but russian only? Jan 14 04:22:38 STABLE Jan 14 04:22:47 english Jan 14 04:22:54 o Jan 14 04:22:59 very nice Jan 14 04:23:11 very very Jan 14 04:23:15 cool I'll have to try it Jan 14 05:42:12 rooly: Yes, and it works with the script on the Wiki, but only after reboot (not after resume) for now. Jan 14 05:55:33 :) Jan 14 06:02:00 * rooly is having trouble pairing with his bluetooth keyboard Jan 14 06:02:15 nn Jan 14 06:09:03 gwaterpas is excellent Jan 14 06:20:11 later rooly Jan 14 06:32:38 using rotate 101 an the led clock got me hung up for about 20 minuits Jan 14 06:54:48 good morning Jan 14 07:33:03 Sargun: Have you had your vi today? Jan 14 07:58:28 http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090114-nokia-qt-lgpl-switch-huge-win-for-cross-platform-development.html Jan 14 08:26:32 lpotter: That rocks in so many ways it's untrue :) Jan 14 08:26:56 :D Jan 14 08:27:06 http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/01/14/nokia-to-license-qt-under-lgpl/ Jan 14 08:27:23 :O lgpl? Jan 14 08:28:18 isn't it currently under gpl3? Jan 14 08:31:10 alot of people comment on FR vs Iphone, i find this very funny Jan 14 08:31:15 good morning Jan 14 08:31:19 god morning Hopscotch Jan 14 08:33:22 todays mision is to try out xmonad and test the memory usage of it. Jan 14 08:33:58 128ram is not enough! Jan 14 08:37:45 lpotter: Does it affect Qtextended? Is this Nokia's plan to make desktop Qt more open and acceptable because they want to be less involved in its development (by outsourcing part of work to the community)? Jan 14 08:39:21 does not effect qt extended Jan 14 08:39:48 lpotter: Is Nokia going to provide any kind of "software patents" "protection" to those using desktop Qt? Jan 14 08:39:57 PaulFertser: if you read that blog entry, he states Qt Software will add more developers Jan 14 08:40:12 No idea about patents Jan 14 08:42:06 lpotter: by "employ" one might mean "use: put into service". Doesn't necessarily mean that new developers will be paid. Jan 14 08:42:26 no, we are still hiring developers Jan 14 08:43:34 lpotter: Thanks for the great news! Jan 14 08:45:28 lpotter: What's your _personal_ opinion about "software patents" and "IP"? Jan 14 08:46:25 personally, I think they are a farce Jan 14 08:46:44 Great :) Jan 14 08:47:57 sebbs: xmonad-light? xmonad depends on ghc (because configuration is a haskell program) Jan 14 08:48:26 and ghc is huge Jan 14 08:58:03 ghc does not work proper does it? Jan 14 08:58:19 i tried compiling something the other day that depended on it but i got int trouble and had to recompile i ti think Jan 14 08:58:46 vinicius: where can i get xmonad-light? Jan 14 08:59:44 darcs get http://code.haskell.org/~shepheb/xmonad-light Jan 14 09:00:07 direct from larry page Jan 14 09:00:11 =) Jan 14 09:00:17 ah Jan 14 09:00:32 sweet :) thanks ill try it out instead of the standard one in the repos Jan 14 09:21:42 mmm for storage of data any advantage of using any system beside ext2 or fat on a sd card? Jan 14 09:21:54 *filesystem Jan 14 09:22:21 yes Jan 14 09:22:25 <|Marco|> hm, read up on ext4 ? Jan 14 09:22:28 ext2 = file permissions etc Jan 14 09:22:33 fat does not Jan 14 09:22:40 + a shitload of other stuff Jan 14 09:22:57 but for you i think file permissions is the most important factor Jan 14 09:23:28 journaling is good Jan 14 09:23:36 ex3 i think, cos my phone dies alot : Jan 14 09:23:37 :P Jan 14 09:23:40 ext3 Jan 14 09:25:49 yes, was wondering about ext3 of ufifs, but I think the SD hardware deals with leveling itself, right? Jan 14 09:26:00 *wear leveling Jan 14 09:28:22 most of them Jan 14 09:28:50 not tried ufifs either Jan 14 09:29:20 * henk hasn't even heard of ufufs Jan 14 09:29:22 ufifs Jan 14 09:29:29 *ubifs Jan 14 09:29:39 i dont like xfs, nor reiserfs fs Jan 14 09:29:39 ah ok Jan 14 09:29:51 xfs looses files Jan 14 09:29:57 from my experience Jan 14 09:30:11 vinicius: ubifs is a flash filesystem... Jan 14 09:31:32 ubifs is quite good Jan 14 09:31:42 but is it meant for 'harddisks'? Jan 14 09:31:46 its fast Jan 14 09:32:14 no meant for flash Jan 14 09:32:23 its like JFFS2 Jan 14 09:32:24 afaict it's something like jffs2, which is meant for FRs nand for example Jan 14 09:32:31 but does not have that 512 limit Jan 14 09:32:32 yes Jan 14 09:32:36 among othr things i think Jan 14 09:32:39 i dont remember Jan 14 09:32:47 but depending on the SD hardware interface it could be used Jan 14 09:32:49 would it work on a memory card nevertheless? Jan 14 09:32:52 ah ok Jan 14 09:32:55 i so seldom read about filesystem specs :P Jan 14 09:32:58 but I think it's not the case Jan 14 09:33:25 ah http://osl.sed.hu/wiki/ubifs/index.php/Main_Page Jan 14 09:33:43 theres a design document there Jan 14 09:33:52 that's what i found... Jan 14 09:33:57 :) Jan 14 09:34:17 im reading it now, looks promising Jan 14 09:34:27 "someone" should benchmark the difference Jan 14 09:37:05 time for me to go back to work, thanks vinicius for that xmonad-light ill compile it later tday and try it out :) Jan 14 09:37:38 cya Jan 14 12:49:49 hi Jan 14 12:52:25 Hello, do you have SHR where are working openmoko-messages and openmoko-dialer? Jan 14 12:52:54 I have today unstable but it worked only for first time :( Jan 14 12:53:29 * henk .oO( 'unstable' ) Jan 14 12:53:58 Nowm I have error message: Jan 14 12:53:58 Failed to handle dbus error: type: . 71 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 32 Jan 14 12:54:08 henk: yes, but where is stable...? Jan 14 12:54:14 Nowhere Jan 14 12:54:31 exactly Jan 14 12:57:04 ok...i'll try zhone Jan 14 12:58:05 5 Jan 14 13:02:42 hmm, I got a Moko, put on fso-testing and it seems stuck after "Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd compatibiltiy daemon (ok)" Jan 14 13:02:51 how long can the boot take? Jan 14 13:07:29 and also for FSO: I flashed uImage and the root.jffs2 Jan 14 13:07:49 do I need to flash the modules-* thing too that's offered in the download section? Jan 14 13:08:02 shouldn't take too long. what jffs2 did you use exactly? Jan 14 13:08:13 spaetz: there are console, lite and normal images... Jan 14 13:08:24 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Jan 14 13:08:32 this seemed appropriate Jan 14 13:08:47 I had a bit of a difficulty finding the right image Jan 14 13:09:04 should be fine... no need to flash the modules and you can't do that anyway... Jan 14 13:09:13 can you connect to ssh? Jan 14 13:09:27 eg. I have no clue what the difference to openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090103-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 is Jan 14 13:09:50 spaetz: fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 is probably just a symlink to the latest image. Jan 14 13:10:01 not tried ssh yet. Should the USB present itself as a network card? I just got the Moko today. So I am still trying Jan 14 13:10:19 register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:1d.0-1 Jan 14 13:10:31 ahh, seems like USB is a network card now. will try to ssh Jan 14 13:10:47 spaetz: as a cdc_ether device, so you probably have a network device 'usb0' which you can configure like that: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 up Jan 14 13:11:05 yep, usb0 is there. trying Jan 14 13:13:09 default ip is 192.168.0.1 probably? Jan 14 13:13:21 can't reach it Jan 14 13:14:27 ahh, connect to *.0.202 works Jan 14 13:14:50 yay, logged into the moko as root. l33t Jan 14 13:15:14 ok, now how to get X started? Jan 14 13:20:21 mmh, there seems to be no graphical stuff at all in fso-testing weird. I might try the -stable snapshot Jan 14 13:21:47 spaetz: try /etc/init.d/nodm restart or perhaps it's called xserver-nodm Jan 14 13:26:50 For my first try I revert now to a stable snapshot. I just received a python import failure: "no module strings" when I started frameworkd etc which sounds a bit scary Jan 14 13:27:11 I'll put the testing on the sdcard once I got a snapshot actually booting Jan 14 13:27:27 but thanks for the hint, henk Jan 14 13:27:28 spaetz: i have fso running in flash and debian (using the fso stack) on the sd. Jan 14 13:27:44 spaetz: perhaps an opkg update ; opkg upgrade will fix your issue? Jan 14 13:28:23 might be. I'll try a few things now before I continue bothering you guys :-). Jan 14 13:29:01 k, have fun :) Jan 14 13:35:09 Hello, is it in SHR something like sysfs in Om200x.x ? Thank you Jan 14 13:35:43 heh: Further framework milestone releases will ship in two forms: Jan 14 13:35:45 1. fso-console-image: An FSO-compliant image featuring no user interface manager. 2. fso-illume-image: An FSO-compliant image featuring the X-Window system with the Enlightenment-based Illume window manager. Jan 14 13:36:00 Cervajz: sysfs is created by the kernel, so i'd think so Jan 14 13:36:03 it seems I actually downloaded the version without graphical user interface Jan 14 13:36:08 so that would explain a lot Jan 14 13:36:12 spaetz: ack :) Jan 14 13:37:52 AntonTakk: Thank you Jan 14 14:30:48 Hi. Is there anyone with experience in bluetooth on OM2008.*? Jan 14 14:36:04 mortenlysgaard: no. Jan 14 14:41:46 henk; Well, i se there's something on the wiki, but it's not working. If i try to turn it on in the sysswitch, it does nothing Jan 14 14:41:55 mortenlysgaard: i tried it out long ago and it worked, but i just read and followed the wiki Jan 14 14:42:11 mortenlysgaard: did you do both commands? turn on AND reset? Jan 14 14:42:19 Yup Jan 14 14:42:29 have a good kernel? Jan 14 14:42:57 Yeah, the OM2008.12 one Jan 14 14:43:30 I get: "Device is not available: No such device" when i try to do something with hcitool Jan 14 14:43:33 mortenlysgaard: does hciconfig -a show you a device? Jan 14 14:43:47 Nope Jan 14 14:46:44 Does that mean that i have a bad kernel? Jan 14 14:57:45 mmh, is "mmc1 error -110 whilst initialising SD card" known when starting FSO-testing? Jan 14 14:58:00 I can't access the SD card Jan 14 15:02:05 anyone tested SHR? is it any good? Jan 14 15:04:04 frankS2: Indeed it's good. Though these days we had some trouble with stuff. We didn't release yet, it's not supposed to be stable :-) Jan 14 15:04:07 frankS2: it's ok imho... Jan 14 15:04:13 frankS2: Although I use it as a day to day distro myself Jan 14 15:04:18 (But that would be a shame if I didn't) Jan 14 15:04:43 hm am i the only one with unacceptable handset volume? i barely hear the one i'm talking to... Jan 14 15:04:47 Ainulindale: how do i install it? is it a .bin image for that too? Jan 14 15:05:07 aand, does it have a irc channel? Jan 14 15:07:33 frankS2: we mostly talk on #openmoko-cdevel Jan 14 15:07:37 images are on build.shr-project.org Jan 14 15:07:46 henk: that's an hardware caveat Jan 14 15:08:41 oh :( Jan 14 15:08:57 Ainulindale: do you live with it or what do you do? Jan 14 15:10:15 You have three choices Jan 14 15:10:30 Either you lower the volume and deal with it Jan 14 15:10:38 Or you crank it up and live with a buzz Jan 14 15:10:42 Or you fix your hardware Jan 14 15:15:52 that hardware fix doesn't seem too easy, how do I find about my hardware rev? Jan 14 15:17:07 spaetz: iirc on the bottom of the battery Jan 14 15:19:19 Ainulindale: there is a hardware fix? where? Jan 14 15:20:01 Available on the wiki I think Jan 14 15:21:00 Ainulindale: hm haven't seen that yet. any hint what to search for? Jan 14 15:21:14 henk: search buzz fix or something Jan 14 15:21:32 there's a pdf that shows where to solder in a resistor Jan 14 15:22:41 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf Jan 14 15:22:49 I think this is what was meant Jan 14 15:26:01 spaetz: thanks! i hope i can get the components and matching soldering whatever somewhere so my GF can fix it... Jan 14 15:38:46 gonna hahe to get with it to keep up with there guys Jan 14 15:39:47 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Bytestore Jan 14 15:52:32 phone works thismorning:) Jan 14 15:52:53 progress Jan 14 16:06:11 Why u-boot don't support sdhc boot on Neo1973 ? Jan 14 16:16:21 is there plans for dfu-util release? Jan 14 16:38:41 i can't seem to get locations in OM2008.12 to get a gps fix, am I missing some trick? Jan 14 16:53:27 where can I find a good new-ish kernel for GTA01Bv4 Jan 14 16:53:41 and what distro should I muck with? Jan 14 16:55:51 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions Jan 14 16:55:59 ^^ Jan 14 17:30:26 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rcd6a53f364af 10/framework/subsystems/ousaged/ (generic.py resources.py): ousaged: move errors to appropriate modules. Jan 14 17:30:26 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rf854ffd892bc 10/framework/subsystems/ousaged/resources.py: ousaged: fix resource policy 'enabled'. Had been broken since months, but apparantly no one notice :) Jan 14 17:33:35 Sargun: Have you had your vi today? Jan 14 17:37:05 [16:07] Or you crank it up and live with a buzz Jan 14 17:37:49 henk: Ainulindale: spaetz: that's not quite correct Jan 14 17:38:18 buzz is far end and not related to earpiece volume Jan 14 17:39:07 you can fix buzz with the buzzfix big-C rework. you can't fix it by volume settings Jan 14 17:39:51 low earpiece volume is a tradeoff to reduze echo at farend Jan 14 17:39:55 joerg_42: agreed, I was doing a simplification :-) Jan 14 17:40:06 joerg_42: Fact is, if volume is loud, the buzz is loud too Jan 14 17:40:18 echo should be fixed by new AT%N command Jan 14 17:40:59 Ainulindale: nonsense. that's for mic sensitivity, not for earpiece volume Jan 14 17:41:33 Well I'm too lazy and tired to explain myself properly Jan 14 17:41:34 as buzz creeps in via mic audio path, thats quite obvious Jan 14 17:41:44 But the trade is : low volume or echo/buzz Jan 14 17:42:17 aha, ok you should know it Jan 14 17:42:31 I'm so tired I can't speak properly :-) Jan 14 17:45:54 Ainulindale: what you say is correct (somehow) but *only* for farend. henk complained about low volume of local earpiece, and that is caused by a tradeof for echo *only* Jan 14 17:46:07 it's not related to buzz Jan 14 17:46:40 as you shouldn't have buzz at all locally. buzz is FE *only* Jan 14 17:47:13 (agreed) Jan 14 17:49:37 Ainulindale: so you further can agree on "echo should be fixed for good by latest mickey's AT%N patch", so you should be able to level up earpiece volume to a convenient level Jan 14 17:51:08 if you say so :-p Jan 14 17:51:39 it's a fair number of users saying this Jan 14 17:52:51 that's why I put it in quotes Jan 14 17:52:51 Yeah yeah I was just stating that my current state implies that whatever you say, I won't be able to argue and/or think, as my head is currently somewhere between my pants and my bowel Jan 14 17:53:19 get some sleep! Jan 14 17:53:29 I should do that but I'm still at work Jan 14 17:53:30 :) Jan 14 18:06:56 OK, so someone needs to write me a nice calendar app that allows me to schedule appointments, meetings, and whatnot and automatically go to silent mode during specified times, and give alerts and reminders when they are coming up. Jan 14 18:07:06 Who's up for it? Jan 14 18:13:52 * sicu awaits Dave's compulsory outcry of the viral arrival Jan 14 18:16:57 Digital_Pioneer: I second the motion...but I'd have to figure out all the e/etk stuff to write it myself Jan 14 18:17:24 I haven't done much in the way of GUIs before Jan 14 18:17:28 Well, I'd have to figure out all the GUI programming stuff... :\ Haven't taken that class yet. :( Jan 14 18:17:37 Nor I. Jan 14 18:18:08 I'm also concerned about the phone suspending... How do I make SURE it gets muted when it's suspended? Jan 14 18:18:41 well, it won't wake up from suspend from a normal calendar program Jan 14 18:18:57 Right. Jan 14 18:19:11 I imagine I'd have to set the interrupt on the hwclock. Jan 14 18:19:17 I believe only the gsm modem, internal alarm, perhaps wifi can wake Jan 14 18:19:38 I have NO idea how to do that, but I also wonder if the alarm can have multiple wake-up times. Jan 14 18:19:49 oh so you do want it to wake Jan 14 18:20:27 I assume it would have to wake, to mute itself. Jan 14 18:20:28 you can set the next alarm when the current one goes off Jan 14 18:20:43 if there is one Jan 14 18:20:47 Why does PS3 blu-ray rips even exist.. waiting for the day they actually crack it for piracy? Jan 14 18:20:49 But what if the current one goes off after the one I need now? Jan 14 18:21:01 I'd have to have some program managing a queue of alarms to go off. Jan 14 18:23:16 it would be interesting to deal with multiple programs that set the alarm, for instance the current alarm program Jan 14 18:23:28 preerably you'd have only one Jan 14 18:23:30 Yeah. Jan 14 18:23:35 See, I have an alarm clock app. Jan 14 18:23:41 I use that alarm clock. :P Jan 14 18:24:03 So I can't have everything messing with my alarm clock... Jan 14 18:25:12 ok so you have to duplicate the alarm functionality in the calendar program Jan 14 18:25:42 unless there is already a way to handle this with framework dbus call Jan 14 18:25:43 s Jan 14 18:28:34 gurugentoo: Digital_Pioneer : patch cron/at to use RTC. All other progs needing a scheduled event should use cron/at, and cron knows about correct sorting of events to set RTC to the most recent next alarmtime Jan 14 18:29:17 DocScrutinizer2: So make cron itself set the interrupt? Jan 14 18:29:26 yup Jan 14 18:29:49 easy peasy Jan 14 18:29:52 A good idea. Now, how to do it... :P Jan 14 18:30:09 start with a text version Jan 14 18:31:02 go borrow code from mozilla sunbird? Jan 14 18:31:14 I can't even compile for FR. Jan 14 18:31:18 No working toolchain. Jan 14 18:34:48 ffirst you need to unify crond and atd, and teach this deamon to handle RTC Jan 14 18:35:08 you can do this on any linux 8'd guess Jan 14 18:37:09 then extend crontab-file syntax to include a conditional alarm for "only when (not) suspended / always" Jan 14 18:38:09 don't forget to include batch(1) semantics here Jan 14 18:38:14 and a hook to turn off the alarm when a suspend is started Jan 14 18:40:38 DocScrutinizer2: ok, thanks for clearing that up :) Jan 14 18:40:40 why would you need that? Jan 14 18:41:17 Hold on, hold on.... :P I don't even know how to set the hwclock interrupt. Jan 14 18:41:37 And that's probably the easiest part of the whole endeavor. Jan 14 18:41:51 there's some /sys control (or was it /dev ?) Jan 14 18:42:26 but you should be able to use sleep(8) iirc Jan 14 18:42:58 well if the alarm is set, and a suspend is initiated and you have it set to silent on suspend then something would have to turn off the interrupt or it would wake at the specified time correct? Jan 14 18:43:02 Are these manpages? Because my FR has no man, and my laptop doesn't have those pages. Jan 14 18:43:11 Digital_Pioneer: actually setting the RTC alarm isn't that hard Jan 14 18:43:23 Didn't figure it would be. Jan 14 18:43:30 I just don't know how. :P Jan 14 18:43:53 Digital_Pioneer: duh, no batch manpage? Jan 14 18:44:11 `man 1 batch` gave no page. Jan 14 18:44:18 see "man at" then Jan 14 18:44:34 Naa Jan 14 18:44:36 *Nada Jan 14 18:44:44 works for me Jan 14 18:46:10 AT(1) Linux Programmer's Manual AT(1) Jan 14 18:46:20 NAME Jan 14 18:46:20 at, batch, atq, atrm - queue, examine or delete jobs for later execution Jan 14 18:47:58 also see "man cron" Jan 14 18:48:50 atd and crond need to be unified to one binary Jan 14 18:49:23 so they can share RTC resource Jan 14 18:55:11 also see rtcwake (8), which probably should be used by the unified atd/crond to set next alarm. Maybe also have a look into powersaved (8) Jan 14 19:01:30 how can i connect remote to my tangogps? Jan 14 19:01:32 from computer Jan 14 19:01:37 what app should i use on the computer Jan 14 19:05:08 has anyone gotten locations to actually get a fix? I tried for ten minutes out in the cold and couldn't get a fix Jan 14 19:05:28 frankS2: x11vnc + xvnc4viewer Jan 14 19:05:40 hajmola: with 2008.9 it worked for me once some time ago... Jan 14 19:06:06 henk: really? I'm on 2008.12, but even back on 2008.9 i couldn't get it to Jan 14 19:06:23 hajmola: just once. Jan 14 19:06:24 lindi-: no that was not what ive been thinkg on Jan 14 19:06:35 lindi-: i was thinking more like gpsd Jan 14 19:10:10 frankS2: ah. just tell tangogps to talk to the phone instead of localhost? Jan 14 19:10:30 lindi-: tangogps for my laptop then? Jan 14 19:10:46 frankS2: yep Jan 14 19:18:08 lindi-: thanks man this works fablous Jan 14 19:23:33 lindi-: http://franks.algorit.me/gps.png :) Jan 14 19:25:36 frankS2: not to far from me then:) Jan 14 19:25:52 jonkristian: hehe you must bee one of my "friends"? Jan 14 19:25:54 trheim? Jan 14 19:28:53 jonkristian: i think you appear on the list Jan 14 19:30:16 frankS2: yeah Jan 14 19:30:24 frankS2: probably not now Jan 14 19:31:17 jonkristian: allrite cool Jan 14 19:31:30 :) Jan 14 19:33:59 joink :D Jan 14 19:34:02 jonk Jan 14 19:53:09 cesarb :) Jan 14 19:53:44 hello Jan 14 19:54:02 can someone please tell me what is the absolutely best uboot to run on my neo1973 so i can boot debian from a 4gig SD card? Jan 14 19:54:06 i've been trying to work it out for hours. Jan 14 19:54:20 btw, hi again .. been a whie since i poked in here.. Jan 14 19:54:21 +l Jan 14 19:54:33 i wanna put my neo1973 to use with debian. :) Jan 14 20:40:07 torpor: how does it fail? Jan 14 20:46:28 HARD Jan 14 21:10:31 /exit Jan 14 21:11:31 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * r27e6e2dfe3c8 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ (factory.py gpschannel.py): ogpsd: add support for debugging via UDP Jan 14 21:20:06 udp? Jan 14 21:22:21 tcp? Jan 14 21:24:40 good evening :) I am trying to compile qwo and can't figure out how to install the needed imlib2 Jan 14 21:25:44 Does anyone know an URL which I can use with "opkg-target install ..." ? Jan 14 21:27:57 is it normal for python "import urllib" to fail in SHR? Jan 14 22:02:01 hi Jan 14 22:02:04 hai' Jan 14 22:04:09 why is this hwclock: can't open '/dev/misc/rtc': No such file or directory ? Jan 14 22:08:24 this line is a good line ? -> 1362 ? S @jokerfox: what do you mean by good? It says that your GPS daemon is connecting through ttySAC1 - look fine too me Jan 14 23:10:28 How can I turn off dictionary in om 12 Jan 14 23:11:11 in SHR is there any way to mass delete SMS messages? Jan 14 23:21:06 the gewmans dominated the maemo-openmoko survey! Jan 14 23:21:54 (after americans to be exact) Jan 14 23:22:54 Bit of a Freudian slip there balrog-kun? Jan 14 23:22:56 :) Jan 14 23:27:21 Toaster`: i just spent half of the day in the openstreetmap wiki Jan 14 23:28:17 Toaster`: and openstreetmap has more Germans than Germany Jan 14 23:30:27 good night :) Jan 14 23:34:11 Toaster`: maybe you could write a little shell script doing this via dbus Jan 14 23:45:55 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * ra5e78f816a9d 10/ (html/index.html xml/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Monitor.xml): link otapi/monitoring and regen docs Jan 14 23:47:15 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rf564afa43a04 10/html/index.html: change order Jan 15 00:02:02 is there a graphical system for configure sound in asu? Jan 15 00:02:12 cu Jan 15 00:10:12 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * reed1ef77b6aa 10/ (ChangeLog framework/subsystems/ogsmd/server.py): ogsmd: add auto-online mode for pdp connections Jan 15 00:21:59 openmoko: 03werner * r4888 10/developers/werner/bin/gg: Run a vi search on the files found with git grep. Jan 15 00:25:41 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r8209a6373963 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): otapi: document fields in org.freesmartphone.GSM.Monitor.Get{Serving|Neighbour}CellInformation Jan 15 00:30:06 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * rcfde8b5d8c09 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): otapi: remove bogus corsslink Jan 15 01:38:18 how can I set the GPRS baud rate? Jan 15 01:38:28 in SHR Jan 15 01:38:39 quatrox1: what's that? Jan 15 01:39:07 quatrox1: gprs will dynamically allocate time slots it needs Jan 15 01:39:56 lindi-: I got some problems with GPRS and would like to try a slower baud rate just to help figuring out what is wrong Jan 15 01:40:18 there is really no such thing Jan 15 01:40:50 ps aux|grep 115200 Jan 15 01:41:13 then you see that GPRS is connected with 115200 baud Jan 15 01:41:26 does not return anything Jan 15 01:41:39 gsm0710muxd supports several baud rates Jan 15 01:41:40 and it'd be the baudrate between the ARM processor and the GSM chip Jan 15 01:41:59 it does not return anything unless you are connected with GPRS Jan 15 01:42:14 ah, it tells that to pppd? Jan 15 01:42:22 yes Jan 15 01:43:04 but I don't know how to change that value unless I recompile gsm0710muxd Jan 15 01:43:20 because I am not familiar with the framework Jan 15 01:46:22 lindi-: http://om.quatrox.org/om/gprs/ps_-aux_ppp_gsm Jan 15 01:48:01 I think it should be possible to define it somewhere Jan 15 01:48:29 I found one config file with the baud rate and tried to change it, but it had no effect Jan 15 01:54:10 quatrox! Jan 15 01:54:28 Hei Dave Jan 15 01:54:37 hei :] Jan 15 01:54:46 styra me? Jan 15 01:56:09 leker med GPRS Jan 15 01:56:17 saa forsvinner straks Jan 15 02:00:26 ah :\ Jan 15 02:00:59 Dave: bruker du SHR? Jan 15 02:01:04 ja Jan 15 02:01:19 er du glad i dbus? Jan 15 02:01:59 no :( Jan 15 02:02:28 jeg synes det er forvirrende... den skjuler ting som kunne vaert spennende aa leke med Jan 15 02:06:22 ja... ~_~ Jan 15 02:06:37 mokoskit :[ Jan 15 02:07:38 Dave: do you know exactly how /usr/sbin/pppd gets launched? Jan 15 02:07:57 hmmm Jan 15 02:12:04 Dave: http://om.quatrox.org/om/gprs/ps_-aux_ppp_gsm Jan 15 02:12:25 would be nice to be able to change the baud rate Jan 15 02:12:51 :o) Jan 15 02:51:55 #openmoko-cdevel Jan 15 02:52:03 sorry **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 02:59:57 2009