**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 20 02:59:57 2009 Jan 20 06:51:08 good morning Jan 20 08:21:23 good morning Jan 20 09:04:21 openmoko: 03charlie * r4891 10/developers/charlie/Wiki/ (12 files): Update personal wiki files Jan 20 09:31:17 yo Jan 20 09:31:23 just recieved my freerunner :-) Jan 20 10:21:02 hi! I am testing 2.6.28 from fso http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.bin.... At boot there is not net on usb,i.e. usb0 interface is missing. IMHO the module is neither compiled as built in nor as external. Is there anybody out there with the same problem? Jan 20 10:21:06 tnx Jan 20 10:25:33 reenzo2: have you tried to boot a second or a third time? Jan 20 10:25:58 yes, both with usb cable plugged and unplugged Jan 20 10:27:35 Kred, I tried two times, not three... have you experienced the need for multiple boots for usb0 to appear? Jan 20 10:29:22 I am not using the same image as you, but I do have trouble on having usb network on a Linux based computers. On a Mac it works just fine. Jan 20 10:30:36 reenzo2: doesn't work first time with some images. Jan 20 10:31:23 So, 2008.* uses stripped Python ? Jan 20 10:31:43 I'll try. I hope usbnet.ko is compiled builtin in all the images... Jan 20 10:32:09 import base64 Jan 20 10:32:09 ImportError: No module named base64 Jan 20 10:34:04 does opkg have a possibility to search packet name and description faster than opkg list|grep blah? Jan 20 10:35:20 with toolchain on your pc its fast enough ;) Jan 20 10:35:55 on the phone side i guess it wont go faster unless search feature is implemented Jan 20 10:36:20 wait, it has Search Jan 20 10:36:48 ah okay.. then i'll install a virtualized openmoko.. will also fit into ramdisk just fine :) Jan 20 10:37:14 zogg_, yes, but that searches for installed filenames or something i didn't figure out Jan 20 10:38:32 looks like it. Jan 20 10:43:56 anyway, using toolchain for packet searching isnt a solution. Host based opkg would be cool. Jan 20 10:47:24 'time apt-cache search nano' takes 13 seconds Jan 20 10:47:46 which is quite slow but it's a compromise Jan 20 10:48:37 try aptitude search nano :-p Jan 20 10:51:09 that's very very slow Jan 20 13:11:17 freesmartphone.org: 03sadov 07zhone * rbf214cdf857e 10/src/zhone: localization support for zhone Jan 20 13:11:18 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * r600a7471f2af 10/src/zhone: make zhone more usable for xgettext Jan 20 13:11:19 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * r20faecc28e46 10/data/locale/ (update.sh zhone.pot): add simple script to update translation files and generate new pot file Jan 20 13:11:20 freesmartphone.org: 03sadov 07zhone * reed2edc112b3 10/data/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/zhone.po: add russian localization Jan 20 13:11:21 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * rf5963dbb87ad 10/setup.py: update setup.py to install the .mo file Jan 20 13:26:29 hey, i am using shr and i would like to know if i could use the angstrom repo? in the wiki is written that i shouldnt add a feed which is not for my distribution Jan 20 13:39:41 root_at: i think you best not mix them Jan 20 13:39:49 you can ask in #openmoko-cdevel Jan 20 13:41:14 Zorkman: what if i add the angstrom repo and del the shr before first time doing anything with opkg? Jan 20 14:49:32 argh! Jan 20 14:49:52 cant get keypad to work during a call so i cant setup my voicemail Jan 20 14:49:56 D: Jan 20 14:58:54 <[-zeno-]> giorno Jan 20 14:59:59 which kernel is most stable with shr? 14th or 24th of December? Jan 20 15:00:16 for the GTA02 Jan 20 15:01:48 badcloud: latest available on the buildhost Jan 20 15:02:09 if you try unstable, you'll have some e problems but kernel is supposedly stable Jan 20 15:02:15 though it's andy tracking so stable is a big word Jan 20 15:04:30 thanks Jan 20 15:04:50 so far, shr has been seg faulting on me Jan 20 15:05:44 so I'm trying shr-lite Jan 20 15:06:42 any ideas? Jan 20 15:07:08 it would seg while in the setup (upper left corner) Jan 20 15:08:56 use gdb? Jan 20 15:09:49 gdb? Jan 20 15:21:36 hei badcloud :] Jan 20 15:21:47 gnu debugger Jan 20 15:21:55 thanks Jan 20 15:22:00 hey there daveo Jan 20 15:22:11 what does it require? Jan 20 15:22:17 a debug board? Jan 20 15:22:29 badcloud: u asked yesterday why ur freerunner segfaults all the time, did u? Jan 20 15:23:53 yup Jan 20 15:24:10 since then I tried FSOM and qt-x Jan 20 15:24:15 did you set up any shelf gadget? Jan 20 15:24:22 and now I'm back to shr, but lite this time Jan 20 15:24:34 for example the mixer Jan 20 15:24:39 yeah Jan 20 15:24:52 dont do that, if you do that it will segfault all the time Jan 20 15:24:52 that was when it segged the first time Jan 20 15:24:57 gotcha Jan 20 15:25:07 what's the deal with that??? Jan 20 15:25:14 i have same problem(also others) but i dont know why Jan 20 15:25:17 that really needs to be posted on the wiki Jan 20 15:25:27 I was freaking out Jan 20 15:26:03 has anyone succesfully changed their ringtone in shr, btw? Jan 20 15:26:08 me2, but then i googled and found something Jan 20 15:26:11 I tried but I got no sound Jan 20 15:26:13 yes Jan 20 15:26:23 is the file in /usr/share/sounds? Jan 20 15:26:34 nope, on the microsd Jan 20 15:26:45 copy it to /usr/share/sounds Jan 20 15:27:38 I'm getting a 'cp: read error: Input/output error' Jan 20 15:27:51 and u just need to write into default.yaml "ring-tone: "xy.mp3"" Jan 20 15:28:00 gotcha Jan 20 15:28:08 fdisk -l isn't showing anything Jan 20 15:28:35 but /media/card seems to be mounted fine Jan 20 15:28:55 then dont mind, just copy ; ) Jan 20 15:29:14 it's giving me that error Jan 20 15:29:20 'cp: read error: Input/output error' Jan 20 15:29:37 umount, and mount again Jan 20 15:30:15 mount: /dev/mmcblk0p1: can't read superblock Jan 20 15:30:39 it's a brand new card Jan 20 15:30:48 nothing is showing up on fdisk -l either Jan 20 15:31:11 make new partition table Jan 20 15:31:30 fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 Jan 20 15:31:37 Unable to read /dev/mmcblk0 Jan 20 15:32:25 try it with ur pc Jan 20 15:32:52 maybe the card isnt placed right in the freerunner Jan 20 15:33:19 it 'ls'ed /media/card a minute ago Jan 20 15:33:32 but I'll power down, readjust and try again Jan 20 15:33:42 ok Jan 20 15:34:57 are you going to ask them to write this in the wiki? this thing with the shelf gadget? Jan 20 15:35:27 don't know who they are, so I can't at the moment Jan 20 15:36:17 i think there is an email somewhere...but i am not that sure if its only when you set up a shelf gadget...maybe its happens also when you do something else in the illume menu Jan 20 15:36:21 I could send an email Jan 20 15:36:34 well, I think it was just that Jan 20 15:37:03 this menu sucks anyway...if you set up that there should be no supend, he doesnt mind and suspend after 60 seconds anyway Jan 20 15:37:12 true Jan 20 15:37:30 maybe it should be posted as the channel topic Jan 20 15:37:44 and give it time until we pinpoint the real cause Jan 20 15:37:47 but u can set it up in the other settings. when you are at your "desktop" click on settings, and set suspend to off Jan 20 15:38:01 :| Jan 20 15:38:30 this settins where you also find gsm, bluetooth, brightness and profile Jan 20 15:38:33 ok, the restart did the trick Jan 20 15:38:36 setttings* Jan 20 15:38:46 it accessed and copied the file from the sd just fine Jan 20 15:38:59 ok, edited default.yaml? Jan 20 15:39:04 on it Jan 20 15:39:30 Dave: sup dave? Jan 20 15:40:39 Hallo :] Jan 20 15:40:45 done Jan 20 15:40:56 do I need to restart ophonekitd_ Jan 20 15:40:58 ? Jan 20 15:41:04 for it to work Jan 20 15:41:21 i am not sure Jan 20 15:41:37 sounds like another reboot is in order Jan 20 15:41:42 I hate rebooting Jan 20 15:41:49 try it without first Jan 20 15:41:58 don't have a phone handy Jan 20 15:42:09 Dave: german? "Hallo?" Jan 20 15:42:24 anydangway, I'm gonna go eat Jan 20 15:42:31 thanks for the help guys Jan 20 15:42:36 np, cu hf Jan 20 15:42:48 root_at, Nederlands :P Jan 20 15:43:19 me no sprechen sie Deutsches :p Jan 20 15:43:24 do you also say "hallo" didnt know that...thought it would just be a german word Jan 20 15:43:30 ja :D Jan 20 15:43:38 we too :] Jan 20 15:43:50 german and dutch very similar with words sometimes :) Jan 20 15:44:08 but the weed is better in the nederlands ; ) Jan 20 15:44:29 mmm Jan 20 15:44:33 bubble gum, orange ;d Jan 20 15:44:42 :P Jan 20 15:53:06 are there more repos for shr than shr-testing/ipk/all /shr-testing/ipk/armv4t and shr-testing/ipk/om-gta02? Jan 20 15:53:18 isnt there unstable? Jan 20 15:54:39 dont mind these 2 posts. Jan 20 16:28:03 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * r1e3ead1575d8 10/etc/dbus-1/system.d/frameworkd.conf: otimed: add otimed to dbus config Jan 20 16:28:03 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * rc88301d177ea 10/framework/subsystems/otimed/ (clock.py otimed.py): otimed: set the system time directly (closes: #318) Jan 20 17:39:06 hello guys Jan 20 17:39:14 just got my freerunner :) Jan 20 17:39:27 i flashed it with om 2008.12 Jan 20 17:39:47 but i cant get it wifi , or net from usb Jan 20 17:41:14 im reading that i have to connect usb , and then ssh and change settings , but , the ssh ip should be 138.168.0.202 right Jan 20 17:41:21 but i cant ssh Jan 20 17:41:26 any suggestions Jan 20 17:43:41 gfather: 192, not 138 Jan 20 17:43:50 yes Jan 20 17:43:57 that was typing mistake :) Jan 20 17:44:05 I have a problem Jan 20 17:44:28 :P Jan 20 17:44:44 I can ping 192.168.0.200, I've been able to SSH before, I cannot ping 192.168.0.202 and SSH is telling me no route to host Jan 20 17:44:50 I've never had this issue before Jan 20 17:46:08 malane: did your phone suspend or something? you might need to just rerun the usb0 interface configuration Jan 20 17:46:13 gfather: reboot the neo, usb network often does not work on first boot after flashing Jan 20 17:46:41 malane: OR, you might have run mofi which shuts down usb0 on the phone Jan 20 17:46:49 ifup and ifdown the interface might also do the job Jan 20 17:49:26 I did run mofi earlier Jan 20 17:50:15 I rebooted the phone, and I've done ifdown ubs0 and ifup usb0 Jan 20 17:50:23 mofi hasn't run since I've rebooted the phone Jan 20 18:02:48 can anyone give me a hint as to what i need enabled on my laptop to be able to use USB networking? Jan 20 18:03:04 sudo ifconfig usb0 up Jan 20 18:03:04 in the kernel on my laptop,i mean Jan 20 18:03:18 it seems i don't have usb networking on :-/ Jan 20 18:03:21 its a usb module i think... / gadget Jan 20 18:03:41 so should be in USB support, right? Jan 20 18:04:08 hmmmm Jan 20 18:06:05 CONFIG_USB_USBNET seems to be what i'm looking for Jan 20 18:06:10 can't find it though :-/ Jan 20 18:07:17 gadgets? Jan 20 18:07:41 it's not in gadgets Jan 20 18:08:13 oh Jan 20 18:08:23 it's in device drivers/network drivers Jan 20 18:09:18 d'oh Jan 20 18:09:23 i have it enabled Jan 20 18:09:34 so why the £%µ isn't it working :-/ Jan 20 18:12:01 ok Jan 20 18:12:50 on the wiki they say to unplug the phone before doing ifconfig usb0 up Jan 20 18:13:00 but you _need_ to connect the phone first Jan 20 18:17:13 heh Jan 20 18:17:39 the next community update is scheduled for "January 23th" :) Jan 20 18:19:08 soul9: what distro? i have fedora 9 on my desktop configured to bring usb0 up and config it when the fr gets plugged in Jan 20 18:22:49 if I was running wifi mofi and it screwed up my usb networking, how could I repair it? Jan 20 18:23:06 I've tried disabling my wifi chip and doing the USB networking instructions on the wiki but I can't connect Jan 20 18:25:41 malane: error? does the batteryicon on your freerunner show that he is charging? Jan 20 18:26:11 yes Jan 20 18:26:17 I figured it out somehow Jan 20 18:26:23 not really sure how though, wish I knew how I did it Jan 20 18:26:31 for the longest time I could ping 192.168.0.200 and return a result Jan 20 18:26:39 but pinging 192.168.0.202 would be unreachable Jan 20 18:26:52 os? Jan 20 18:27:35 try to connect with ssh...or did you already? Jan 20 18:28:09 AntonTakk: well, actually i completely misread the wiki lol Jan 20 18:28:43 still, my network is on the 192.168.0.0/24 range, and my moko doesn't get internet connection Jan 20 18:30:23 I disabled the wifi chip, did ifdown usb0 && ifup usb0 Jan 20 18:30:25 on the phone Jan 20 18:30:29 and on my debian laptop Jan 20 18:30:32 and it now works somehow Jan 20 18:30:45 soul9: try adding a ststic route for the fr? Jan 20 18:30:47 I couldn't ssh before, but I can now Jan 20 18:31:01 malane: ok good. hf Jan 20 18:33:42 yeah Jan 20 18:33:45 i did that Jan 20 18:33:50 does the freerunner charg while he is in suspend? Jan 20 18:33:51 here is thel ine i just did Jan 20 18:34:09 ip link set dev usb0 up; ip addr replace 192.168.0.136/24 dev usb0; ip route add 192.168.0.202 via 192.168.0.136 dev usb0 Jan 20 18:34:13 (if he is connected) Jan 20 18:34:33 soul9: what OS? Jan 20 18:34:38 gentoo Jan 20 18:34:47 i can connect to the freerunner Jan 20 18:35:06 but it can't see the internetz Jan 20 18:35:06 :-( Jan 20 18:35:18 have dns setup on the fr? Jan 20 18:35:33 also, have packet forarding setup on the host? Jan 20 18:35:40 soul9: you can connect to the freerunner but you can't ping an IP/domain? Jan 20 18:35:47 yeah Jan 20 18:35:48 exactly Jan 20 18:35:50 you can ssh though? Jan 20 18:36:00 maybe need to enable iptables, though routing should be enough... Jan 20 18:36:05 yeah, i can ssh in Jan 20 18:36:24 on your FR, type "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and tell me what comes up Jan 20 18:39:00 but no internet from the freerunner Jan 20 18:40:22 soul9: type "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and tell me the output Jan 20 18:41:36 nameserver 192.168.0.1 Jan 20 18:41:42 (that is my DNS) Jan 20 18:41:52 okay Jan 20 18:41:53 try Jan 20 18:42:23 echo "nameserver 208.67.222.222" > /etc/resolv.conf && echo "nameserver 208.67.220.220" >> /etc/resolv.conf Jan 20 18:42:33 those are public DNS IP's for anyone to use Jan 20 18:43:04 malane: i can't ping those addresses Jan 20 18:43:09 heh Jan 20 18:43:16 hm okay Jan 20 18:43:28 on your desktop: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward Jan 20 18:43:48 how about "cat /etc/network/interfaces" and tell me what comes right after iface usb0 inet static Jan 20 18:45:19 HAH Jan 20 18:45:46 i may have gotten it Jan 20 18:45:57 soul9: good Jan 20 18:46:23 malane: there is no /etc/network/interfaces on gentoo :-) Jan 20 18:46:45 your FR is running gentoo? Jan 20 18:46:55 whoops :) Jan 20 18:47:39 oh Jan 20 18:48:21 no Jan 20 18:48:56 malane: if you put those ips to resolv.conf then list of all sites you visit with a web browser will be sent to USA? Jan 20 18:49:05 soul9: well if you've gotten your internet to work you're fine anyway :) Jan 20 18:49:27 lindi-: all of your DNS requests will be sent to U.S. servers Jan 20 18:49:32 looks like the dns is not working Jan 20 18:49:40 malane: yeah and they contain the names of the web sites I visit Jan 20 18:49:47 lindi-: yes Jan 20 18:49:59 soul9: you can ping IP's but not domains? your issue lies in /etc/resolv.conf Jan 20 18:51:49 Speedevil, you around? Jan 20 18:52:06 malane: no it doesn't Jan 20 18:52:17 i had to forward the domain ports Jan 20 19:32:18 works nicely, now for the update... Jan 20 19:32:26 Cannot find package udev-static-devices. Jan 20 19:32:33 anyone know a solution for this one? Jan 20 19:32:39 tried to install it, didn't work Jan 20 19:33:10 maybe the upgrade doesn't work and i should just flash the phone with a newer image? Jan 20 19:34:40 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * rdbe8508e07dc 10/tools/cli-framework: cli-framework: add support for bluez 4.x Jan 20 19:34:43 in the shr mailing list someone mentioned that it would be possible that opkg update/upgrade doesnt work..you are talking about shr? Jan 20 19:46:57 Dave: Android has Net!!! Jan 20 19:47:51 and I'm posting this from irssi in screen over ssh from my G1! Jan 20 19:48:16 what's up with git.openmoko.org ? Jan 20 19:51:15 what is the kernel name in the release? Jan 20 19:51:27 here http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/ Jan 20 19:53:19 Hello? Jan 20 19:53:20 nuclear_eclipse: with proprietary wlan drivers of course? ;) Jan 20 19:53:30 Anybody having problems with the git repository Jan 20 19:53:40 Alinermedia: yep Jan 20 19:53:44 It is resufing conections Jan 20 19:54:01 yes Jan 20 19:54:05 lindi: thank you. Are they doing maintenance? Jan 20 19:54:10 no idea Jan 20 19:54:19 lindi: Thanks Jan 20 19:54:39 what is usually in the kernel's filename? Jan 20 19:54:44 lindi-: I'm definitely not arguing the "openness" (or lack thereof) in the G1... ;) Jan 20 19:54:53 here http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/ i can't find a 'kernel' Jan 20 19:56:22 :-( Jan 20 19:57:05 soul9: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/Om2008.9-gta02-20081106.uImage.bin Jan 20 19:57:20 ok Jan 20 19:57:23 that's the kernel image Jan 20 19:57:32 i was confised and didn't want to get u-boot by mistake Jan 20 19:57:34 thank you Jan 20 19:57:35 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2 is the root filesystem image Jan 20 19:57:39 yw Jan 20 19:58:17 I would posit that 'uImage' is probably the worst and most misleading filename for a kernel that I've seen Jan 20 19:58:33 nuclear_eclipse: what should it be? Jan 20 19:58:52 kernel? Jan 20 19:58:59 nuclear_eclipse: see ;-) Jan 20 19:59:00 hmm, Om2008.9-xxxx.kernel.bin would be nice, I thimk Jan 20 19:59:07 nuclear_eclipse: how would you name zImage? Jan 20 19:59:19 yeah, i *thought* it was uimage, but wasn't sure Jan 20 19:59:44 at least if they could name the images after the DFU alternate that it should get imaged to.... Jan 20 19:59:52 does my freerunner boot noticeable faster when i install qi? Jan 20 20:00:00 they could also provide md5's Jan 20 20:00:08 +1 to the md5s Jan 20 20:00:13 signatures are not that important, but md5s are Jan 20 20:01:17 also, a simple guide to flashing each release, with appropriate filenames would resolv all ambiguity ;-) Jan 20 20:01:39 but i guess that's what the siki is there for.. Jan 20 20:05:21 nuclear_eclipse: dfu-alternate? Jan 20 20:08:56 git is up Jan 20 20:09:03 Alinermedia: thanks Jan 20 20:10:05 hi Jan 20 20:10:15 anyone know if multiplexing works in 2008.12? Jan 20 20:10:47 out of the box i mean Jan 20 20:11:18 ? Jan 20 20:13:22 nuclear_eclipse! Jan 20 20:13:53 hey Dave, hows it going? Jan 20 20:14:31 Uhh, it's going Jan 20 20:14:32 Busily Jan 20 20:14:33 awww, usb is so slow :-( Jan 20 20:14:38 Sadly openmoko isn't going :P Jan 20 20:14:40 i m trying to lauch gnome-player at om 2008.12 but i m getting this message from GConf "Client failed to connect to D-BUS daemon: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-BUS session: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.". i got the ipkg from angstrom repository, is there anything that i can do to fix this problem with dbus? Jan 20 20:14:44 (very wel, that is) Jan 20 20:14:58 Anton, actually up until an hour ago I was still pouring over laptops :) Jan 20 20:15:12 ah, decide on one? Jan 20 20:15:23 haha unfortunately not yet Jan 20 20:15:27 heh Jan 20 20:15:31 though I *need* one, so I'll end up buying something! Jan 20 20:15:46 Probably HP or lenovo, though for a time asus was looking convincing (for notebooks) Jan 20 20:15:46 you know you want that tadpole viper ;) Jan 20 20:15:52 hahahaha Jan 20 20:15:56 fuck solaris Jan 20 20:16:01 +1 Jan 20 20:16:02 it's bad enough on some of our lab workstations Jan 20 20:16:10 hehe Jan 20 20:16:28 I'd take FBSD6 over Solaris10 anyday for my clusters, thank you P Jan 20 20:16:29 :P Jan 20 20:16:40 Dave: where are you? there is clevo and zepto who make allright laptops Jan 20 20:17:02 Soul9, yeah, I know. My last one was by clevo, I believe. Jan 20 20:17:08 i see Jan 20 20:17:11 It was great and held up for several years. Jan 20 20:17:15 ok Jan 20 20:17:27 dell? ☺ Jan 20 20:17:33 hahahaha Jan 20 20:17:47 Sure, if their prices were reasonable. Jan 20 20:17:57 :) understandably, i'm a rhel/centos and fedora guy my self, but i'm trying to learn some of the big iron stuff, solaris, aix, etc Jan 20 20:18:03 and you could look past all the other stuff Jan 20 20:18:11 lenovo is way more expensive than dell Jan 20 20:18:19 I disagree Jan 20 20:18:24 at least it's better quality Jan 20 20:18:24 0_o Jan 20 20:18:37 Soul, check out their latest latitude line Jan 20 20:18:46 oh, yeah, lenovo is way better quality than dell Jan 20 20:18:52 the ones with the TPMs in them? Jan 20 20:18:58 ☺ Jan 20 20:18:58 it's optional, but yes Jan 20 20:19:04 magnesium frames <3 Jan 20 20:19:07 :D Jan 20 20:19:10 not plastic :P Jan 20 20:19:32 NO Jan 20 20:19:36 it's like, ooh hey, what does this button do... *aaaaaaaaah* why did my computer just fall apart into a million pieces!? (Dell) Jan 20 20:19:38 it's not optional at all Jan 20 20:19:47 it's funny, because people who own dell laptops WISH it was that simple Jan 20 20:19:54 soul9: every tpm i have encountered to date either required a driver, and/or could be disabled in bios just like any other peripheral Jan 20 20:19:57 alas, they feature things like that on their desktop PCs Jan 20 20:20:07 Anton, yeah Jan 20 20:20:12 AntonTakk: well, they are obfuscated devices Jan 20 20:20:20 Soul9, the first thing you get on their website when you click on one of them is TPM vs NO TPM Jan 20 20:20:25 just that you turn it off doesn't mean it'll do a thing Jan 20 20:20:30 and later you see it's just an optional peripheral or so they categorize it Jan 20 20:20:52 well, the latitudes i've seen all had tpms in them Jan 20 20:21:00 and it wasn't optional Jan 20 20:21:02 but meh Jan 20 20:21:09 (.fr) Jan 20 20:21:40 someone was looking for a laptop, they even called in to ask wether the tpm was really optional or not Jan 20 20:21:57 this is a specific intel platform that has the tpm, no? Jan 20 20:22:57 probably yes Jan 20 20:23:00 But who cares? Jan 20 20:23:14 It's only valued (by dell) at $20 :P Jan 20 20:23:27 heh Jan 20 20:23:37 so save $20 if you don't have a company which requires it Jan 20 20:23:41 which is pretty much everyone Jan 20 20:24:09 don't buy a latitude ;-) Jan 20 20:24:19 This was our initial point. Jan 20 20:24:20 hah Jan 20 20:24:28 Dave: dunno, i got an older inspiron here, it's very good, i have to say Jan 20 20:24:31 though actually out of all the dells, I do stand by most of their latitude lines. Jan 20 20:24:39 Soul9, I still use a 10yr old latitude Jan 20 20:24:41 It works great! Jan 20 20:24:42 the ones which has the white borders Jan 20 20:24:45 :-) Jan 20 20:24:47 and has stood the test of time and spills Jan 20 20:24:49 hi Dave :) Jan 20 20:24:52 haha Jan 20 20:24:54 their newer stuff is still shit in comparison Jan 20 20:24:59 but the latitudes are the best of dell's crap Jan 20 20:25:02 i see Jan 20 20:25:20 has anyone ever received dfu-util error -71? Jan 20 20:25:31 the modern inspirons are primarily disposable in my opinion, or too bulky Jan 20 20:25:35 my dfu-util is also telling me it can't find any alternate settings. I've never encountered these problems before Jan 20 20:25:38 they make for good student laptops though hah Jan 20 20:25:44 malane: what's the error message to go with that number? Jan 20 20:25:44 oh and hey, nuclear eclipse :) Jan 20 20:25:55 Dave: i tell you, i'm very happy (inspiron 640m) Jan 20 20:25:58 14" Jan 20 20:25:59 * [df] likes disposable laptops Jan 20 20:26:03 just says error during download Jan 20 20:26:07 very nice machine, i have to say Jan 20 20:26:18 Starting download: [dfu_download error -71 Jan 20 20:26:19 malane: make sur you have root privileges? Jan 20 20:26:20 malane: try again? :-) Jan 20 20:26:30 hmm shr mokomakefile forkbombs my system :/ Jan 20 20:26:31 yes, I'm on as root Jan 20 20:26:37 I've tried about 7 times Jan 20 20:26:40 lol Jan 20 20:26:45 oh snap Jan 20 20:26:47 what's the full command you're running? Jan 20 20:26:50 malane, try a different usb cable? Jan 20 20:26:59 unless it fails in the exact same spot? :x Jan 20 20:27:03 dfu-util -R -a u-boot -D gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin Jan 20 20:27:06 malane: dmesg on your kernel doesn't show any problem ? Jan 20 20:27:09 Mononoke, nice Jan 20 20:27:10 I only have one usb cable :( Jan 20 20:27:23 aw Jan 20 20:27:40 uh oh Jan 20 20:27:41 I had that same problem a while back but using a new usb cable or trying it 40 times on the broken one worked :P Jan 20 20:27:54 malane: I use to have similar errors from time to time and it's broken kernel on my laptop :) Jan 20 20:28:01 eh oh Jan 20 20:28:01 [ 1305.631512] usb 4-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd dfu-util rqt 128 rq 6 len 255 ret -71 Jan 20 20:28:05 D: Jan 20 20:28:05 a ton of those Jan 20 20:28:13 change kerner Jan 20 20:28:17 kernel* Jan 20 20:28:19 k Jan 20 20:28:26 on the machine your flashing from Jan 20 20:28:26 the older kernel I have loaded doesn't have wifi Jan 20 20:28:30 and I'm in class :( Jan 20 20:28:39 :-( Jan 20 20:28:41 brb Jan 20 20:28:53 speaking of class, /me needs to head to one.... Jan 20 20:28:54 flashing u-boot "in class" Jan 20 20:29:03 Dave: lucky part is that dunno when they added it but kernel stops forking at 20k processes and I have no limits set ^,^ Jan 20 20:29:13 sweet? Jan 20 20:29:17 :-D Jan 20 20:29:19 though I still wouldn't regard that as a good thing :P Jan 20 20:29:27 hahah Jan 20 20:29:28 Malane, aw Jan 20 20:29:37 nuclear_eclipse: me too :P Jan 20 20:29:55 Dave: my biggest regret from getting a G1/Android was that I would miss Net and Inertia, but alas, the oh-puzzles pack is on the Android market too! Jan 20 20:29:57 malane, will you be around later? Jan 20 20:29:59 well try forkbombing your machine, I don't think you'll make it out without reboot Jan 20 20:30:21 nuclear_eclipse, lucky you :P Jan 20 20:30:26 * Dave kicks nuclear_eclipse Jan 20 20:30:30 lol Jan 20 20:30:33 jerk :P Jan 20 20:30:36 :D Jan 20 20:30:54 damn Jan 20 20:30:57 * nuclear_eclipse is still keeping his Neo around ;) Jan 20 20:31:22 bye Dave, later all Jan 20 20:31:48 Dave: i have been considering getting a g1 also, it is very nice hardware Jan 20 20:31:55 you really bought that thing from T-kom? Jan 20 20:32:04 T-mobil, or whatever Jan 20 20:32:10 just the 'big T' Jan 20 20:32:46 soul9: if it fits or exceeds your needs, and is within your budget, why not? Jan 20 20:33:21 because T is bad, and google is bad? Jan 20 20:33:23 ;-P Jan 20 20:33:59 whatever, i guess i'll try out android some time too Jan 20 20:35:03 i tried android on the fr and thought it was kinda nice Jan 20 20:35:34 lacking a few software bits for running on a phone with only two buttons, but not bad otherwise Jan 20 20:36:53 also, imho a smart phone should have a hardware kb Jan 20 20:37:09 well, i think a small usb kb is fine... Jan 20 20:37:22 err Jan 20 20:37:27 s/usb/bluetooth Jan 20 20:37:29 i don't want to have to cary a ton of accessories Jan 20 20:37:55 nope Jan 20 20:37:56 the fr small.. Jan 20 20:38:01 different kernel didn't work Jan 20 20:38:07 :-( Jan 20 20:38:16 it's almost finishing a dfu-util download of the u-boot, but it fails with error code -71 toward the end Jan 20 20:38:29 other usb port? Jan 20 20:38:30 perhaps it is my cable, too bad I don't have another Jan 20 20:38:30 :-) Jan 20 20:38:44 already swapped usb ports Jan 20 20:38:50 soul9: it's roughly the same size as my wing, but my wing has a hardware kb :) Jan 20 20:39:10 but doesn't have gps/accelerometer/wifi/..? Jan 20 20:39:15 Starting download: [###################################dfu_download error -71 Jan 20 20:39:18 :( Jan 20 20:40:00 soul9: it has wifi, no gps and no accelerometers, but otoh, those are just neat toys to have in the phone Jan 20 20:40:42 heh Jan 20 20:40:45 exactly Jan 20 20:41:26 soul9: my wing can reliably make and receive calls/sms/email/etc all day ;) Jan 20 20:41:40 heh Jan 20 20:42:36 Hey malane :) Jan 20 20:42:42 first try I get a dfu-util error -71 then all attempts after that until I reboot into the FR's bootloader will result in "no alternate setting" Jan 20 20:43:35 hmm Jan 20 20:43:37 strange Jan 20 20:43:41 yeah Jan 20 20:43:42 is that with a different kernel? Jan 20 20:44:01 yea Jan 20 20:44:24 I've tried 2.26 and 2.18 Jan 20 20:44:32 er Jan 20 20:44:34 o.O Jan 20 20:44:41 2.6.18 and 2.6.27 Jan 20 20:44:43 whoops :) Jan 20 20:44:46 Ah :) Jan 20 20:44:48 Okay :P Jan 20 20:44:52 damn, well that sucks Jan 20 20:45:11 Honestly, I'd say try another cable :( Jan 20 20:45:19 because I've tried it and it runs on those kernels Jan 20 20:45:25 at least 2.6.18 Jan 20 20:45:31 and 2.6.24/26 Jan 20 20:45:35 .17 fine here Jan 20 20:45:40 and .16 Jan 20 20:45:41 so there you go :P Jan 20 20:45:44 err Jan 20 20:45:46 I've used both kernels and never had an issue before this Jan 20 20:45:52 damn Jan 20 20:45:57 So it's worked up until now? Jan 20 20:46:08 cable.. Jan 20 20:46:10 yep Jan 20 20:46:23 very strange Jan 20 20:46:50 maybe theres some blanket fuzz across the terminals Jan 20 20:47:00 :) Jan 20 20:47:12 bofh way ;-) Jan 20 20:47:37 what worries me is the cable works for SSH Jan 20 20:47:50 and everything else except dfu-util Jan 20 20:48:00 maybe your dru is corrupt Jan 20 20:48:04 dfu Jan 20 20:48:14 perhaps Jan 20 20:49:53 malane, that's not surprising Jan 20 20:50:09 malane, does your usb connection ever die episodically? Jan 20 20:50:12 Have you left it on for hours? Jan 20 20:50:39 I left it on overnight the other night and it was fine Jan 20 20:50:51 hmm, yeah I don't know, weird Jan 20 20:50:58 my enlightenment is segfaulting on boot because my net dropped on an opkg upgrade Jan 20 20:51:04 overnight Jan 20 20:51:05 My initial suggestion would be to try another cable, but since you don't have one at hand, I'm not sure Jan 20 20:51:11 cable was okay but the wireless internet dropped Jan 20 20:51:13 malane, ouch :X Jan 20 20:51:19 sucky :\ Jan 20 20:51:20 I'll have to try one when I get home in about two hours Jan 20 20:51:26 Okay :) Jan 20 20:51:28 yeah im a sitting duck now Jan 20 20:51:30 I hope it works out though Jan 20 20:51:37 Malane, trust me, I've been there :p Jan 20 20:51:41 and yeah, it sucks Jan 20 20:52:03 or running off to a class, and realizing I forgot to install the keyboard, so it's all ready to go but I have no way of inputting anything :D Jan 20 20:52:04 anyone know if multiplexing works out of the box in 2008.12? Jan 20 20:52:07 aahh, good times :P Jan 20 20:52:38 or worse, putting it back together and taking it with me, but then realizing the microsd which had the OS on it, was still sitting in the cardreader on my desk :P Jan 20 20:52:41 oy -_- Jan 20 20:52:46 http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/bush_dies_peacefully_in_his Jan 20 20:53:05 LAEN Jan 20 20:53:50 DAVE Jan 20 20:54:20 \o/ Jan 20 20:58:46 now my SSH is finnicky. it has to be my cable Jan 20 21:02:53 anyone know in fdom how one exits an app? Jan 20 21:10:08 soul9: press the top bar which lists running processes, and at the bottom left corner you'll see "REMOVE" Jan 20 21:10:22 which kills your current active process Jan 20 21:11:53 hi Jan 20 21:13:36 Is there someone using OM 2008.8, ASU, and illume (raster) keybord ? Jan 20 21:13:41 *2008.12 Jan 20 21:17:11 malane: top bar "locks" for me :( Jan 20 21:17:51 soul9: that's no fun :( Jan 20 21:18:20 I found out I accidently snagged my roommates cable too, and have been using that the whole time. My actual cable was in my backpack and everything is flashing fine now. Apparently his cable sucks :( Jan 20 21:22:23 heh Jan 20 21:22:55 if only instead of usb we had ethernet :P Jan 20 21:23:43 yeah heh Jan 20 21:23:52 tftp :-) Jan 20 21:24:35 okay so who knows a bit about signals and serial communication? Jan 20 21:24:42 like, communication basics over wires Jan 20 21:27:03 hum...for my problem...someone can help ? Jan 20 21:28:03 malane, heh ... are ya planning to fix your roomate's cable? :P Jan 20 21:34:23 JRD: sorry, i stopped using 2008.x ay 2008.8 :) Jan 20 21:34:28 s/ay/at/ Jan 20 21:34:48 oh Jan 20 21:34:56 what are you using now ? Jan 20 21:35:07 I'm a bit lost between all distros Jan 20 21:35:28 i have fso ms 4.1 on my fr, but i do not use it as my daily phone Jan 20 21:35:44 AntonTakk meant: JRD: sorry, i stopped using 2008.x at 2008.8 :) Jan 20 21:35:53 wow Jan 20 21:35:56 slow bot Jan 20 21:36:51 lol Jan 20 21:36:54 hehe, any 2009.x already released? Jan 20 21:36:55 cool bot ! Jan 20 21:37:09 I don't think so Jan 20 21:37:17 or didn't find Jan 20 21:37:29 so the last one is still the 2008.12? Jan 20 21:37:34 stable i mean Jan 20 21:37:37 openmoko: 03werner * r4892 10/developers/werner/bin/wlanscan: Also display the channel number. Jan 20 21:37:40 AntonTakk : I broke my main phone, so I will use my FR as my main phone for now Jan 20 21:37:58 It seams StOrM_NW Jan 20 21:38:06 heh, buying a SIM with a phone was less expensive than buying it without lol Jan 20 21:39:16 if you don't take into account that you're bound to an operator for 1 or 2 years Jan 20 21:39:49 this is a prepay-type card Jan 20 21:39:55 no way i do that!! Jan 20 21:40:02 btw, I've already purchase the FR for 4 months Jan 20 21:40:15 the change is that now I will try to use it on a daily basis Jan 20 21:55:41 hmm, anyone knows why fso-gpsd doesn't let me in? Jan 20 21:55:42 gpspipe -r freerunner gpsd Jan 20 21:55:42 gpspipe: could not connect to gpsd freerunner:2947, Connection refused(111) Jan 20 21:56:21 don't know, sorry Jan 20 21:56:40 JRD: my best luck for a daily phone has been with FSO, zhone (the testing app/phone gui) is somewhat feature-free, but can be made much more user friendly with a few small (one line) additions to it's python code Jan 20 21:57:14 vanous123: it sounds like the daemon is not running? Jan 20 21:57:39 JRD: also, fso ms 5 is due out in like 9 days and looks like it will be a considerable improvement over it's previous versions Jan 20 21:57:49 ok Jan 20 21:58:01 on what is based FSO ? Jan 20 21:58:09 JRD: shr Jan 20 21:58:13 coldfyre__: i have no problem connecting to it localy, but if i wanna use it from desktop via usb line no luck :( Jan 20 21:58:32 FSO uses zhone? Jan 20 21:58:44 i'm a bit lost Jan 20 21:58:53 @_@ Jan 20 21:58:58 JRD: i am hoping to have my own phone gui app ready, or close to ready to hav fso dbus guts added by ms 5 Jan 20 21:59:09 coldfyre__: usb networking is no issue here, but host.allow/deny do not exists and i am not sure abut default behavior Jan 20 21:59:19 zhone is a telephony package, and I know for sure it's used by Debian on the FR. I thought it was also used by SHR/FSO Jan 20 21:59:21 malane: the fso-zhone image ships with zhone Jan 20 21:59:23 vanous123: start fso-gpsd without '-S localhost:gpsd' Jan 20 21:59:42 AntonTakk: you designed your own telephony suite? Jan 20 21:59:45 malane: zhone is the fso testing app, Jan 20 21:59:55 coldfyre__: 1421 ? Ss 0:23 /usr/sbin/fso-gpsd -S localhost gpsd -P /var/run/fso-gpsd.pid Jan 20 22:00:05 AntonTakk: yeah zhone isn't very usable imo Jan 20 22:00:08 malane: yeah, it's mostly an empty gui atm, but i am trying to whip it in to shape Jan 20 22:00:14 OM 2008.12 is based on SHR ? Jan 20 22:00:21 JRD: no Jan 20 22:00:28 AntonTakk: what did you use to write it? I'd like to write my own telephony suite and I know C, Java etc. Jan 20 22:00:39 C, and efl Jan 20 22:00:40 AntonTakk: I just don't want to use python Jan 20 22:00:42 shr is an updated 2008.12? Jan 20 22:00:50 kinda using it to learn both :) Jan 20 22:00:55 soul9: no Jan 20 22:01:03 AntonTakk: do you have a link to your source so I could check it out? I'm looking for something basic to learn off of Jan 20 22:01:03 heh Jan 20 22:01:53 AntonTakk: what are you using efl for? Jan 20 22:01:55 malane: i have a really old bit on my web server, but i can up a recent copy in about 2.5 hours, if you'll still be around Jan 20 22:02:02 malane: the gui Jan 20 22:02:59 coldfyre__: do you think fso-gpsd provides the same networking options as gpsd? Jan 20 22:03:20 malane: i like efl because to me it seems you aren't so much writing a gui app, as you are writing an app and writing a gui, and they talk to eachother Jan 20 22:03:45 I'm a bit lost with differents parts/distros for FR. I read the wiki over and over and It's not clear. Jan 20 22:03:47 AntonTakk: I'll be gone in 2.5 hrs but if you could point me to the location which you'll be placing it, that would be awesome Jan 20 22:03:47 it also makes creating your gui extreemly fast Jan 20 22:04:03 On what component, the OM2008.x distros are based ? Jan 20 22:04:14 malane: http://www.poolofdespair.net/pub/phoneui Jan 20 22:04:21 AntonTakk: I don't really know anything about efl. and thanks Jan 20 22:05:07 JRD: 2008.x is the old phone stack that was qtopia ported to X11 Jan 20 22:05:25 JRD: FSO is the future of OM's phone guts Jan 20 22:05:42 JRD: shr is a gui/apps on top of fso Jan 20 22:05:50 AntonTakk: how usable is FSO? as a daily phone? Jan 20 22:06:12 Thank you very much AntonTakk !!! Jan 20 22:06:31 malane: ime it varies, not bad, but you probably want to reboot your phone every few hours and keep a spare battery, just in case Jan 20 22:07:05 AntonTakk: not reliable enough for me. a new milestone is coming out soon, will that fix any of these issues? Jan 20 22:07:20 malane: i'm personally hoping ms5 can eliminate the having to reboot bit and maybe the sleep stuff too Jan 20 22:08:11 AntonTakk: that would be good Jan 20 22:08:47 malane: yeah, i can hack zhone togather in to a half usable ui untill i get my own app going :) Jan 20 22:09:23 but where is the shr image? Jan 20 22:09:36 they only provide kernels? Jan 20 22:09:40 soul9: somewhere on shr.bearstech.com Jan 20 22:10:04 soul9, http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ Jan 20 22:10:05 shr is usable on a daily basis ? Jan 20 22:10:20 JRD: dunno, i don't use it Jan 20 22:10:31 JRD, I use shr unstable as my daily phone Jan 20 22:10:36 gotta compile it Jan 20 22:10:43 ok Sharwin_F Jan 20 22:10:48 i don't use mobile a lot, but it works ok I think :) Jan 20 22:11:05 AntonTakk: how did you compile your source? using the openmoko toolchain stuff? Jan 20 22:11:10 I need to call, have contacts and email working Jan 20 22:11:19 s/email/SMS/ Jan 20 22:11:19 JRD meant: I need to call, have contacts and SMS working Jan 20 22:11:23 AntonTakk: one thing that makes debian extremely attractive is that it just uses gcc, and none of this toolchain crap Jan 20 22:11:31 use it to listen to music when going and coming from classes, and a few calls and sms Jan 20 22:12:01 good Jan 20 22:12:03 JRD, it should work Jan 20 22:12:13 I'll give it a try then :) Jan 20 22:12:42 but be careful, as it's unstable sometimes you get some bugs depending on the image or when updating with opkg Jan 20 22:12:49 malane: i have been doing the dev on my desktop Jan 20 22:13:00 After reading the Wiki and with the help of AntonTakk for understanding the different components, I thing FSO is the way to go for FR Jan 20 22:13:02 so i just use gcc to compile Jan 20 22:13:08 oh Jan 20 22:13:26 I'm excited to see more from the debian team, and what android can do Jan 20 22:13:37 but if all three--FSO, debian, and android--were very usable, that would be great Jan 20 22:13:39 ok Sharwin_F , but btw FR is for dev atm Jan 20 22:14:26 malane: i have a readme file in the tarball with has a few notes, including the command line needed to compile Jan 20 22:14:39 and as best i can figure the libs you'll need :) Jan 20 22:14:47 my FDOM enlightenment just SEGV'd again, and keeps doing it. I JUST reflashed it and simply opkg update && opkg upgrad'd Jan 20 22:14:48 OffTopic: Does anybody know a open source tool to capture websites as image? I want to capture a large page and I don't want to scroll and screencap every single page Jan 20 22:14:49 JRD, yes, just be carefull when updating :) Jan 20 22:14:59 AntonTakk: thanks Jan 20 22:15:47 malane: and you got the link, right? Jan 20 22:16:35 AntonTakk: yep Jan 20 22:17:13 muxe: have cups print it as a pdf? Jan 20 22:18:11 one possibility... mhh... I remember I tried this once and it had awful quality, but I'll have a look. thx Jan 20 23:06:12 So, trying the fso-testing image but zhone does not seem to be installable because of a libpython issue? Jan 20 23:06:58 opkg says it can't satisfy * libpython2.5-1.0 (>= 2.5.2) * Jan 20 23:08:45 johnsu01: isn't zhone already part of the fso-testing image? Jan 20 23:08:53 rwhitby: not the one I just grabbed.. Jan 20 23:09:14 where did you grab it from? Jan 20 23:10:06 i.e. did the fso-testing image come from the same place as the single fso-testing feed in your opkg conf? Jan 20 23:10:41 rwhitby: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/ Jan 20 23:11:14 I tried installing zhone with the default feeds in the image Jan 20 23:11:59 what opkg command did you use? Jan 20 23:12:31 opkg install zhone Jan 20 23:13:29 * rwhitby looks on the autobuilder ... Jan 20 23:13:38 is shr able to suspend only when not powered by usb? Jan 20 23:13:45 armv4t/libpython2.6-1.0_2.6.1-ml0_armv4t.ipk Jan 20 23:13:45 armv5te/libpython2.6-1.0_2.6.1-ml0_armv5te.ipk Jan 20 23:13:48 rwhitby: it doesn't make sense, because there is a newer libpython installed than the dependency requires Jan 20 23:13:56 but it's still complaining Jan 20 23:14:05 armv4t/zhone_0.0.2+gitrcf48d98b8e994d6a7698fbc6f0689126892895f9-r11_armv4t.ipk Jan 20 23:14:17 johnsu01: are those the versions opkg is seeing in the feed? Jan 20 23:14:32 that's the zhone version, yes Jan 20 23:14:33 (ignore the armv5te one, that's for a780) Jan 20 23:15:11 ah, it looks like a python 2.5 -> python 2.6 migration problem Jan 20 23:15:14 mickey|bbiab: ^^ Jan 20 23:15:17 and yes, the same with libpython Jan 20 23:17:08 johnsu01: my guess is that all packages that depend on libpython need their PR bumped so they rebuild on the autobuilder. Jan 20 23:17:46 rwhitby: okay, thanks for checking that out Jan 20 23:18:12 johnsu01: best thing would be to raise a ticket on fso.org and include this irc conversation. Jan 20 23:18:22 then mickey|bbiab can deal with it Jan 20 23:18:27 rwhitby: okay, I have to hit the train but I'll do that when I get home Jan 20 23:37:14 hello guys Jan 20 23:37:55 ifconfig usb0 192.168.4.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 Jan 20 23:38:41 gives me : siocgifflags: no such device Jan 20 23:39:03 nn Jan 20 23:53:44 * alfatangoxt is away: ................ Jan 21 00:16:20 Device Drivers -> USB support -> USB Network Adapters or Device Drivers -> Network Device Support -> USB Network Adapters. Jan 21 00:16:25 where are these ? Jan 21 00:18:42 gfather, whats up? Jan 21 00:19:01 hay m8 Jan 21 00:19:05 hi Jan 21 00:19:13 im dying with the wiki , Jan 21 00:19:23 some programer is present? Jan 21 00:19:23 the stuff are not hard to do Jan 21 00:19:25 you need usb networking? Jan 21 00:19:28 yes Jan 21 00:19:33 gfather: they are kernel configs Jan 21 00:19:37 but the wiki is too messed up Jan 21 00:19:41 which distro do you use? Jan 21 00:19:49 distro does not matter, only kernel Jan 21 00:19:58 yeah Jan 21 00:20:10 but i was wondering why he wouldnt have them already Jan 21 00:20:23 gfather: I guess you only need to modprobe Jan 21 00:20:32 i used normal om 2008.12 and fdom one Jan 21 00:21:06 I have speciific question about illume-keyboard Jan 21 00:21:08 modprobe ? Jan 21 00:22:17 lsmod | grep usbnet Jan 21 00:22:28 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking does'nt say anything about modprobe Jan 21 00:22:33 if thats there then your good Jan 21 00:22:45 should be Jan 21 00:22:47 on the om , or my linux ? Jan 21 00:22:58 linux desktop/laptop Jan 21 00:23:15 gfather: is it on the phone or your linux pc? Jan 21 00:23:28 I assume it is your linux box Jan 21 00:24:16 lsmod | grep usbnet shows nothing on my ubuntu Jan 21 00:24:35 sudo /sbin/modprobe usbnet Jan 21 00:25:19 sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 Jan 21 00:25:32 same thing , shows nothing , even if it started Jan 21 00:25:46 i do sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 Jan 21 00:25:52 i get Jan 21 00:26:01 SIOCSIFADDR: No such device Jan 21 00:26:01 usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Jan 21 00:26:01 SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device Jan 21 00:26:08 ifconfig -a|grep usb Jan 21 00:26:58 isn't there afirst boot netorking issue with om.2008.12? Jan 21 00:27:08 networking* Jan 21 00:27:14 not any damn info on terminal Jan 21 00:27:45 gfather: sudo lsmod|grep usbnet Jan 21 00:28:02 at last Jan 21 00:28:08 :) Jan 21 00:28:18 damn sudo Jan 21 00:28:29 gfather: one hint Jan 21 00:28:31 sudo -s Jan 21 00:28:40 then you enter root mode Jan 21 00:28:41 usbnet 20232 0 Jan 21 00:28:41 usbcore 146028 9 usbnet,cdc_acm,uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd Jan 21 00:28:41 mii 6400 3 usbnet,8139too,8139cp Jan 21 00:28:52 great Jan 21 00:28:53 thats a good hint :) Jan 21 00:29:28 now what ? Jan 21 00:29:44 ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 Jan 21 00:30:01 iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 Jan 21 00:30:17 iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT Jan 21 00:30:17 root@mjfahmi-desktop:~# ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 Jan 21 00:30:17 SIOCSIFADDR: No such device Jan 21 00:30:17 usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Jan 21 00:30:22 ohh Jan 21 00:30:31 gfather: I got a script Jan 21 00:30:39 I will send you a link Jan 21 00:30:42 ok Jan 21 00:30:55 wait Jan 21 00:31:15 :o Jan 21 00:31:19 i think ill do it tom , as i cant hold it any more , i must sleep Jan 21 00:31:21 oh great Jan 21 00:31:42 did you make "echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" ? Jan 21 00:31:48 quatrox if you can help me tom , it will be great Jan 21 00:31:59 not yet Jan 21 00:32:14 gfather: wget -O /usr/bin/fr_usb http://om.quatrox.org/om/fr_usb.sh Jan 21 00:33:07 chmod +x /usr/bin/fr_usb Jan 21 00:33:22 fr_usb Jan 21 00:33:51 the phone must be connected Jan 21 00:35:16 gfather: let me know how it works Jan 21 00:35:21 i have to wake up for work :( Jan 21 00:35:43 ill talk to you tom ;) Jan 21 00:35:49 thanks allot for the help Jan 21 00:35:55 good night guys Jan 21 00:35:58 no prob Jan 21 00:36:01 night Jan 21 00:36:08 nighty Jan 21 00:39:13 MOO Jan 21 00:46:16 is fso / shr able to switch power management settings depending on powered status? so i can have shr suspend only when no power supply other than the battery is present? Jan 21 00:54:10 I have my own software to menage it Jan 21 00:55:34 jonsmith1982: shr-project.org Jan 21 00:55:56 see the section about customizing Jan 21 00:56:08 it is explained there Jan 21 00:57:54 quatrox|away, thanks for that. Jan 21 00:58:29 np Jan 21 01:46:38 Mr. Dave Jan 21 01:46:43 thou hast summoned me Jan 21 01:56:43 rwhitby, mickeyl : Oops, put this is the wrong channel, but the bug we were discussing here earlier is already in the trac at http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/320 Jan 21 01:57:18 frameworkd should've been bumped for python 2.6, guess i forgot that Jan 21 01:57:20 will do it now Jan 21 01:57:34 Also an issue for zhone, that's where I hit it Jan 21 01:59:54 done Jan 21 02:01:05 mickeyl: sweet, thanks Jan 21 02:01:59 np, it will take a while until it hits the feeds, but it will Jan 21 02:55:06 holycow: cousin? Jan 21 02:56:34 lol Jan 21 02:56:36 hi Jan 21 02:57:34 * moo--- waves his tail **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 21 02:59:57 2009