**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 04 11:44:39 2009 Mar 04 11:45:36 cool Mar 04 11:45:36 do you know how to fix GPS on the neo smartrunner with android? Mar 04 11:45:37 i tried installing andnav2 and doing the 'opkg install gpsd' thing but andnav crashes and my phone says it can't find the command opkg Mar 04 11:45:44 anyone knows why I can't charge the battery under shr using andytracking? Mar 04 11:45:44 what's up, Gras? Mar 04 11:47:52 sorry, not really Mar 04 11:48:15 ok Mar 04 11:48:39 i dunno either Mar 04 12:21:32 openmoko: 03werner * r4948 10/developers/werner/gta03/cam/patches/ (17 files): Prepare patch stack for submission into OM repository. Mar 04 12:32:35 hi, i am trying to compile some gtkmm application for Om2008 and there are not available a some libraries (gtkmm, glibmm, libsigc++) for opkg-target. Is gtkmm supported? How can i install the libraries (trying to compile by my self, but it is difficult)? Mar 04 12:39:05 joejoe: I'd like to learn it myself as well.. let me know if you figure it out.. Some instructions here: http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/cross_compiling/READ.txt Mar 04 12:39:42 Or maybe you need to first compile the required libraries yourself? Sounds like.. pain.. Mar 04 12:43:15 i tried to compile, libsigc++ (one of dependencies) and there is some problem, that STL headers are not in includes Mar 04 12:44:19 i am not able to compile hello world in c++ (because iostream file was not found) Mar 04 12:44:31 what is the best way to fix this problem? Mar 04 12:45:44 i can add the path /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux/gnueabi/usr/include/c++/4.1.2 to configure command, but i am sure, that is bad solution Mar 04 12:48:58 I forgot what I need to do see ssh root@192.168.0.202 Mar 04 12:48:58 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Mar 04 12:48:58 @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ Mar 04 12:48:58 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Mar 04 12:48:58 IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! Mar 04 12:48:59 Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! Mar 04 12:49:01 It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed. Mar 04 12:49:03 The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is Mar 04 12:49:05 0c:2d:5b:78:dc:48:96:21:ae:98:f8:c4:2c:4a:19:14. Mar 04 12:49:07 Please contact your system administrator. Mar 04 12:49:37 ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null root@192.168.0.202 Mar 04 12:49:38 $EDITOR ~/.ssh/known_host Mar 04 12:50:39 what's a problem with opkg update Mar 04 12:50:53 I cann't download reposityroy Mar 04 12:50:55 a) no web connection or b) no signatures Mar 04 12:51:02 if b) - never mind. Mar 04 12:51:02 yeah no signatures Mar 04 12:51:07 It doesn't matter Mar 04 12:51:11 it still works Mar 04 12:51:34 I need install terminal what I need to paste Mar 04 12:51:40 opkg install fso? Mar 04 12:52:28 echo "src/gz opkgorg http://www.opkg.org/packages" > /etc/opkg/opkg-feed.conf Mar 04 12:52:29 opkg update Mar 04 12:52:32 opkg install vala-terminal Mar 04 12:52:43 (first install opkg.org repository for some nice apps) Mar 04 12:53:00 lenin_: do you have a clean 2008.12? Mar 04 12:53:08 yes Mar 04 12:53:22 Check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer Mar 04 12:53:30 It might do a lot of the stuff you need Mar 04 12:55:44 Running it once installs you xterm and some of the most important fixes. Second run bloats your freerunner with opkg.org software :) Mar 04 12:57:31 thnks a lot I got terminal Mar 04 12:57:58 now I want install some stuff for wifi in my school and browser Mar 04 12:58:40 if you installed that opkg.org repository then type opkg install minimo wlan Mar 04 12:59:10 at the moment minomo works ~the best (and it's really bad/slow..) Mar 04 12:59:23 you also can try midori Mar 04 12:59:32 so Mar 04 12:59:38 see http://www.opkg.org/ Mar 04 12:59:39 midori or imnimo wlan? Mar 04 12:59:58 You can install both (midori and minimo are web browsers, wlan is a wlan config tool) Mar 04 13:00:16 mofi is another wlan tool Mar 04 13:00:58 shit Mar 04 13:01:02 how to remove lock Mar 04 13:01:02 ? Mar 04 13:01:10 lock? Mar 04 13:01:10 Could not obtain administrative lock Mar 04 13:01:16 yeah I stopped opkg Mar 04 13:01:25 and it is locked where is lock Mar 04 13:02:45 don't know.. Mar 04 13:09:18 I got it Mar 04 13:09:21 rm /usr/lib/opkg/lock Mar 04 13:09:53 good Mar 04 13:10:19 so what I need to install for wifi connecton Mar 04 13:10:25 mofi? Mar 04 13:10:46 does mofi search connection and then connect? Mar 04 13:10:48 mofi or wlan Mar 04 13:10:50 see opkg.org Mar 04 13:11:41 momtools Mar 04 13:11:54 wicd Mar 04 13:11:54 xd Mar 04 13:12:58 Welcome to the Linux world :) Mar 04 13:13:38 humm Mar 04 13:13:43 Installing wlan (0.3) to root... Mar 04 13:13:43 Segmentation fault yeah Mar 04 13:13:52 Except momtools isn't available yet? Mar 04 13:14:11 opkg install http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk http://www.opkg.org/packages/wlan_0.3_arm.ipk Mar 04 13:14:39 that might help - there's something wrong in the wlan package descriptions in opkg.org repository Mar 04 13:14:55 did you check opkg.org? Mar 04 13:15:32 thnks Mar 04 13:15:34 no Mar 04 13:15:49 yeah Mar 04 13:15:54 I got it wlan start Mar 04 13:15:59 is it for wifi network? Mar 04 13:16:11 check opkg.org... Mar 04 13:16:35 that's where you're installing those packages from.. Mar 04 13:16:44 it has more packages you want & instructions Mar 04 13:19:17 so Mar 04 13:19:25 I need some advise Mar 04 13:19:28 first of all Mar 04 13:19:46 I want to install Debian distro is it good? Mar 04 13:20:05 Depends. Some like it. Mar 04 13:20:20 I had debian on pc Mar 04 13:20:25 Distros compared here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions Mar 04 13:22:03 Generally I'd recommend SHR (though I've never tried it :( Mar 04 13:22:58 but can I have openmoko and Debian or it is better to have only 1 distro and what about free space Mar 04 13:23:38 lenin_, if you ask is Debian(or Gentoo) good on neo, you don't want it on neo Mar 04 13:24:08 :D Mar 04 13:24:10 ok ok Mar 04 13:24:12 I want it Mar 04 13:24:29 but I do not know how much space did it take Mar 04 13:24:43 You'll install them on the memory card, not the flash. Mar 04 13:25:00 fyp can be installed on the card (and I'd guess it takes most of it, it's based on debian) Mar 04 13:25:34 so I will have some distro on memory and openmoko as a main but i do not know if speed of distro will be good Mar 04 13:25:52 right. Mar 04 13:26:03 15:22 < rhkfin> Generally I'd recommend SHR (though I've never tried it :( Mar 04 13:26:18 but I love Debian Mar 04 13:26:39 Debian uber alles Debian makes my phone free Mar 04 13:26:49 ok, fine, install debian then :) Mar 04 13:26:55 So what's your question? Mar 04 13:27:26 do I need to have debian and openmoko together Mar 04 13:27:27 ? Mar 04 13:27:42 and is debian support firmware Mar 04 13:27:44 no, you don't need to have any OS on the flash if you've installed Debian on the memory card Mar 04 13:28:06 you can try hackable:1 which is basically debian Mar 04 13:32:34 open moko had a little shit keyboard i prefer this form 2007 Mar 04 13:32:44 and how to off dictonary Mar 04 13:34:09 Craaaaapp, that freaking alarm app has bricked my entire distro! Mar 04 13:36:04 The thing won't boot anymore, it just infinitely spawns aplays playing the alarm wav. Mar 04 13:38:14 Digital_Pioneer: ouch! Mar 04 13:38:20 What distro / what alarm app? Mar 04 13:38:32 SHR-unstable, enlightenment alarm. Mar 04 13:38:54 It worked in SHR testing, but now it's absolute crap and it's trying to brick my phone. Mar 04 13:40:02 I'm trying to recover it, seeing as it never stops spawning aplays, I ssh'ed in and ran `while (true) ; do killall aplay` and I'm trying to remove the stupid thing. Mar 04 13:40:50 Stopped X, that fixed its little red wagon.... :P Mar 04 13:40:59 Pardon me, elementary-alarm Mar 04 13:42:54 Ahh, YES, I got it to quit. Mar 04 13:42:55 has anyone installed debian on their FR? Mar 04 13:43:03 Now, I need a working alarm clock. :P Mar 04 13:43:10 I'm having trouble with the installer script Mar 04 13:43:12 Hey! It even regged GSM. Mar 04 13:43:15 Impressive. Mar 04 13:43:21 it gets stuck on fdisk because of the cylinder reate Mar 04 13:43:22 rate Mar 04 13:44:26 OK! Death to elementary-alarm! Mar 04 14:02:05 hello Mar 04 14:02:47 i had pigin on phon:-D Mar 04 14:06:23 can you configure it to actually use some IM? Mar 04 14:44:18 lol, I got this problem Mar 04 14:44:19 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2259316 Mar 04 14:44:33 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host Mar 04 14:45:27 try http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/fr_bind Mar 04 14:45:41 lenin_: put the output of '/sbin/ifconfig usb0' and '/sbin/route -n' on paste.debian.net please Mar 04 14:45:52 which os u have now linin? Mar 04 14:45:58 lenin? Mar 04 14:46:01 openmoko Mar 04 14:46:14 it happend Mar 04 14:46:19 well the one that came with the phone? Mar 04 14:46:35 after I installed wifi and browser Mar 04 14:46:40 flashed Mar 04 14:47:03 fyp is pretty good debian based os Mar 04 14:47:27 except u need reading glasses to see Mar 04 14:48:53 openmoko: 03werner * r4949 10/developers/werner/gta03/cam/patches/ (14 files): Final revision for submission. Mar 04 14:49:02 yea Mar 04 14:49:06 werner Mar 04 14:50:14 ok Mar 04 14:50:41 maybe its a reboot Mar 04 14:51:02 maybe it is problem cuz when I installed new keyboard Mar 04 14:51:09 I got critical error Mar 04 14:51:17 which os is it Mar 04 14:51:32 openmoko Mar 04 14:51:38 2008.12? Mar 04 14:51:41 y Mar 04 14:51:43 2008.09 Mar 04 14:51:49 yep Mar 04 14:52:25 i used an image from bytestore that seemed very good Mar 04 14:53:06 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Bytestore Mar 04 14:59:23 so what I need to do Mar 04 14:59:43 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host Mar 04 15:00:40 lenin_: read what other people tell you Mar 04 15:01:07 well if u havent reebooted since your install i would reboot Mar 04 15:01:27 so u can ssh ibn Mar 04 15:09:23 omg what a stupid problem Mar 04 15:11:04 lenin_: do we want to know? Mar 04 15:12:30 192.168.0.202 Mar 04 15:12:43 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host Mar 04 15:12:48 I think it is bug Mar 04 15:13:53 i think it's a layer8 problem Mar 04 15:14:01 humm Mar 04 15:14:18 I will be for 4hours going study physic Mar 04 15:14:21 see you Mar 04 15:14:28 can hardly wait... Mar 04 15:14:49 what a ... Mar 04 15:27:42 henk: think it was a problem with his routing ;-) may his local network also is in 192.168.0.0 Mar 04 15:29:41 nezza-_-: very probably. that's why i wanted to see ifconfig and route output... but layer8 definitely has big problems too. Mar 04 15:30:15 henk: absolutly ;) Mar 04 15:40:25 can anyone help me install debian manually on the uSD? Mar 04 15:40:43 what else do I need apart from the extracted fs image and the uImage? Mar 04 15:41:04 on an ext2 filesystem Mar 04 15:41:48 [o] win. 04.03.09 15:34 Jupp :-) bin ich stolz drauf 8-) . Mar 04 15:41:48 .. .. [o]>AK-. 04.03.09 15:34 ;) . Mar 04 15:41:51 .. .. [o] fr3. 04.03.09 15:37 im mom hab ich soo keine lust auf diese doofe . Mar 04 15:41:56 aeh.. sorry. Mar 04 15:41:58 middle mousebutton Mar 04 15:42:29 hrrr Mar 04 15:42:30 badcloud: there are instructions about installing debian in the wiki... Mar 04 15:42:38 badcloud: what do you mean by Mar 04 15:42:44 manually installing ? Mar 04 15:43:04 badcloud: w/o using the script? Mar 04 15:43:19 'extracting the tarball with tar' vs 'clicking on it in nautilus' :-p Mar 04 15:45:12 yup Mar 04 15:45:24 the script complained about to many cylinders Mar 04 15:50:09 badcloud: I installed debian successfully using the install.sh script and the wikipage doesn't mention any alternatives Mar 04 15:50:45 badcloud: could you be more specific on the problem you encountered? Mar 04 15:51:49 sure, fdisk reported that the cylinder count was too high Mar 04 15:51:54 that it was above 1024 Mar 04 15:52:02 then the script quitted Mar 04 15:52:08 so I'm trying manually Mar 04 15:52:19 I downloaded the fs.tar.gz Mar 04 15:52:23 how big is your usd? Mar 04 15:52:28 16GB Mar 04 15:52:41 I made a primary 3GB linux partition Mar 04 15:52:50 :) Mar 04 15:52:54 I did the partition step manually and still used the install script Mar 04 15:52:55 hey there Dave Mar 04 15:53:03 I see Mar 04 15:53:04 teythoon: ack me too Mar 04 15:53:08 maybe I try that Mar 04 15:53:14 I thought the script partitions Mar 04 15:53:17 you can select wich stages to run on the command line Mar 04 15:53:55 well, now that I have a working ext2 fs Mar 04 15:53:57 just partition, format and mount your target partition Mar 04 15:54:02 maybe it will work Mar 04 15:55:01 INST_MIRROR=your mirror here INST_DIR=/where/ever ./install.sh debian apt fso configuration kernel Mar 04 15:55:11 QI=true Mar 04 15:55:12 :-p Mar 04 15:55:15 right Mar 04 15:55:17 will do Mar 04 15:55:27 good luck :) Mar 04 15:55:50 badcloud: it takes some time though... like 2 hours... Mar 04 15:56:56 "the number of cylinders for this disk is set to 486192" Mar 04 15:57:04 doesn't matter. Mar 04 15:57:08 got EOF thrice - exiting Mar 04 15:57:19 apparently the script didn't like that Mar 04 15:57:34 flash memory doesn't have such things and so they are set to insane values... Mar 04 15:57:43 do that step manually then Mar 04 15:57:44 workaround? Mar 04 15:57:57 badcloud: make sure to report your success or any problems wrt the sdcard at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards Mar 04 15:58:39 badcloud: well, first give _all_ available information on your problem, _then_ ask for help. read the smart questions howto if you need more information on the topic 'how to ask for help properly' Mar 04 15:59:08 yes on u-boot 1.3.2-moko12 Mar 04 15:59:22 yes on linux 2.6.24+git75969 (2008.8 kernel as of Sept. 4, 2008) Mar 04 15:59:49 SanDisk SDSDQ-016G-E11M 16GB (SDHC) Mar 04 16:00:23 I'm running shr unstable Feb9 on qi Mar 04 16:02:37 and the script is failing at which stage? Mar 04 16:02:54 Hello, world. Mar 04 16:03:44 Who can saw few words about xf86-video-glamo status? is it a works? at least sometimes?) Mar 04 16:04:21 ok Mar 04 16:04:23 max_posedon: I think there is a post on the planet about it from yesterday Mar 04 16:04:26 today free Mar 04 16:04:42 tig|, Could you give me a link? Mar 04 16:05:06 teythoon, after trying or building a new DOS disklabel Mar 04 16:05:14 max_posedon: http://www.turran.org/2009/03/glamo-xrender-benchmark-with-expedite.html Mar 04 16:05:18 thanks Mar 04 16:05:19 so what do with that Mar 04 16:05:22 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host? Mar 04 16:05:42 lenini_, via usb or wifi? Mar 04 16:05:47 usb Mar 04 16:06:18 'sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0' first Mar 04 16:06:44 badcloud: but you did this manually and formatted the partition, right? Mar 04 16:06:50 yup Mar 04 16:07:06 I didn't fiddle with the DOS disklabel though Mar 04 16:07:27 only made a primary 3GB linux at the beginning of the uSD Mar 04 16:08:42 and you told the installer just to run the stages from debian to kernel as I suggested? Mar 04 16:10:07 I can't believe I have to pay almost 150 euro if I want a beagle board in Norway Mar 04 16:10:22 how did you suggest, teythoon? Mar 04 16:10:34 I couldn't translate what you said to the right syntax Mar 04 16:10:37 INST_MIRROR=your mirror here INST_DIR=/where/ever ./install.sh debian apt fso configuration kernel Mar 04 16:10:38 or understand it Mar 04 16:12:00 it started downloading cdebootstrap.deb Mar 04 16:12:03 finished rather Mar 04 16:12:10 *whee* Mar 04 16:12:17 is that it? Mar 04 16:12:20 yay Mar 04 16:12:26 think so Mar 04 16:12:35 will it boot after the installer finishes? Mar 04 16:12:40 see this Mar 04 16:12:45 TX packets:1 errors:52 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Mar 04 16:12:45 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 Mar 04 16:12:45 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:90 (90.0 B) Mar 04 16:12:50 52 errors Mar 04 16:13:22 I will better install something else Mar 04 16:13:32 lenin_: i told you what to do? why do you still keep asking? Mar 04 16:13:48 cuz it doesn't wor Mar 04 16:13:59 here's hoping it works Mar 04 16:14:05 thanks so much, teythoon Mar 04 16:14:14 lenin_: if you don't understand what people tell you, you should say so. don't just ask the same question all over. that's just stupid. Mar 04 16:14:41 lenin_: could you run on your host system the following and paste the output: ip route Mar 04 16:15:08 but I haven't that problem before Mar 04 16:15:08 badcloud: you're welcome :) Mar 04 16:15:24 it happend after wifi install Mar 04 16:15:33 the stage where it takes the most is retrieving packages? Mar 04 16:15:35 lenin_: doesn't matter. Mar 04 16:15:46 I just want to feel safe leaving it alone now Mar 04 16:16:00 lenin_: we can't help without the information we need to understand your network. Mar 04 16:16:16 lenin_: please go and read the smart questions howto. Mar 04 16:17:26 badcloud: the package installing and configuration magic takes much more time Mar 04 16:17:54 badcloud: plug it in and do something else for like two hours ;) Mar 04 16:19:01 I'm off for a swim :) Mar 04 16:19:05 yayyyyy Mar 04 16:24:58 uh, I am having trouble with the backlight management on debian Mar 04 16:26:53 it goes dim even though I am actively using the phone and creating pointer events... Mar 04 16:27:13 teythoon: always or only after a suspend? Mar 04 16:28:59 always Mar 04 16:30:07 it happens frequently after enabling the wifi device, but that could be just a coincidence... Mar 04 16:32:05 hm ok, i sometimes have that, i think after suspending, but i'm not sure yet. Mar 04 16:33:41 who manages the backlight? the frameworkd? Mar 04 16:34:21 i believe there is a dbus resource to control the backlight... Mar 04 16:34:38 it can, i remember reading that in a faq somewhere... Mar 04 16:34:55 how to change the time to dim with fso or debian... Mar 04 16:34:55 is openmoko represented at the CeBIT 09? Mar 04 16:37:36 ScarEye: i don't think so. Mar 04 16:37:42 ScarEye: sorry, was to serdar Mar 04 16:37:53 Serdar: i don't think so Mar 04 16:38:36 hmm that's bad :/ Mar 04 16:39:46 good news everyone, i have packaged tangogps 0.96 and posted it on opkg.org Mar 04 16:51:55 henk: turns out that commenting out the blocks in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml concerning the idle state handling (last two) works around this problem... Mar 04 16:53:41 teythoon: ah thanks Mar 04 16:54:56 henk: just remember to reenable these things and restart the frameworkd... this should be quite a battery killer :D Mar 04 17:39:53 does anyone have a funktional icq messager in android ? Mar 04 17:40:07 ups Mar 04 17:56:30 Hi Mar 04 17:56:49 What is the GPS chip set used in Freerunner ? Mar 04 17:57:10 Basically I am looking for the Data Sheet of Freerunner's AGPS Mar 04 18:02:56 mib_c95py0: it's on the wiki Mar 04 18:03:34 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS Mar 04 18:03:43 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-blox_ANTARIS_4_ATR0635 Mar 04 18:05:57 Zorkman: Great & Thanks .. :) Mar 04 18:06:27 Stupid question, perhaps, but if my opkg is still pointing at shr-unstable then am I getting the "latest and greatest"? Mar 04 18:06:48 ... or is the testing version actually more recent at the moment? Mar 04 18:10:44 Is it possible to find the GPS accuracy in meters based on DOP Values ?? Mar 04 18:11:00 No Mar 04 18:11:30 Is there any other means to find that ?? Mar 04 18:11:46 I mean the accuracy the GPS calculation in meters Mar 04 18:11:51 DOP is a crude multiplier of how much less accurate an ideal GPS neglecting some errors might be than with an optimal arrangement of satellites. Mar 04 18:13:36 SpeedEvil: So is it not possible to find the current GPS accuracy in meters ?? Mar 04 18:13:46 Not as I understand it. Mar 04 18:13:50 the GPS doesn't really know. Mar 04 18:13:55 It can make educated guesses. Mar 04 18:14:39 Any OM kernel hackers about? Mar 04 18:15:35 SpeedEvil: Educated Guesses ? Mar 04 18:15:57 yes. Mar 04 18:16:49 SpeedEvil: What kind of Educated Guesses ? Mar 04 18:18:25 If for example, the calculated range to one satellite is 20m out compared to 4 other satellites that are +-3m accurate compared to a hypothesised postion, the error may be as much as 23m or so Mar 04 18:18:52 Alternatively, the error may be only 3m, and the other satellite be having multipath problems Mar 04 18:19:31 SpeedEvil: Is it possible to retrieve this info ?? Mar 04 18:20:15 no Mar 04 18:20:45 SpeedEvil: Okk Mar 04 18:20:51 or rather, not in standard mode Mar 04 18:21:35 SpeedEvil: My requirement is that I want to display the accuracy of GPS in meters instead of displaying raw DOP values Mar 04 18:21:53 you can't. Mar 04 18:22:00 mib_c95py0, just open wiki Mar 04 18:22:12 Even GPS recievers that do are fundamentally lying, for obvious reasons. Mar 04 18:22:18 thereis a map HDOP <-> accuracy Mar 04 18:22:36 hdop <-> meters Mar 04 18:22:48 The best you can achieve is a guess. Mar 04 18:23:53 A first cut would be a HDOP lookup table. Mar 04 18:24:09 A better solution would also look at reported sat strengths - GPGSV results Mar 04 18:24:58 but to do that right is complex Mar 04 18:26:04 SpeedEvil: Sounds good ... But I guess this involves a few computations to be done from my side Mar 04 18:26:20 Is this just showing the user? Mar 04 18:26:29 Or do you actually need it to be accurate? Mar 04 18:26:30 max_posedon: Could n't find the link @ wiki ... Mar 04 18:26:42 SpeedEvil: That is just for the user Mar 04 18:27:11 mib_c95py0, can't find it now too.. sorry was somewhere http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDOP Mar 04 18:27:46 description was smth like hdop 1 about 1mm, hdop 10 - abuot football field(100m) Mar 04 18:28:28 max_posedon: Ok .. I will try googling .. Mar 04 18:29:33 The HDOP calculation above looks sane. Mar 04 18:30:01 It might be worth not using unit vectors, but vectors that reflect the recieved signal strength too. Mar 04 18:30:33 But that's quite complex to get right, and involves lots of reverse enigneering observed performance to get to actual behaviour Mar 04 18:41:57 badcloud: how is your install going? Mar 04 18:48:08 Is there a 2.6.26 commit/branch that I can use that is relatively stable? Mar 04 18:56:26 guys how to flash SHR Mar 04 18:58:42 lenin_: you can use dfu-util to flash your phone from your workstation Mar 04 18:58:50 lenin_: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing for details Mar 04 18:58:51 yes I go it Mar 04 18:59:01 but I do not know wich image to flash Mar 04 18:59:12 shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2? Mar 04 18:59:37 uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin? Mar 04 19:01:03 lenin_: well, you need both. the first one is the root filesystem, the second one is the kernel iirc... Mar 04 19:01:11 ah ok Mar 04 19:01:14 I know Mar 04 19:01:30 so lets try Mar 04 19:02:03 lenin_: http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Install has some more information Mar 04 19:04:49 interesting what does this flags mean Mar 04 19:04:53 dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Mar 04 19:05:00 -a -R -D? Mar 04 19:20:42 lenin_: they are explained in man dfu-util Mar 04 19:29:06 lenin_: -R is reset -D download -a is the place in memory Mar 04 19:29:15 more or less Mar 04 19:42:20 humm what does it mean dfuERROR, clearing status Mar 04 19:42:20 not at least 2 device changes found ?!? Mar 04 19:42:20 Opening USB Device... Mar 04 19:42:20 No such Alternate Setting: "kernel" Mar 04 19:48:09 lol Mar 04 19:48:15 I run again and it work Mar 04 19:48:22 what was that Mar 04 19:48:35