**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 15 02:59:57 2009 Mar 15 03:00:13 * SeligArkin holds her head Mar 15 03:01:16 * Dave passes selig a pillow Mar 15 03:02:24 where does X send it's logs to Mar 15 03:02:34 store them, you mean? Mar 15 03:03:00 yeah, I need to see what enlightenment is saying when it trys to load the icons Mar 15 03:03:32 cause its quite useless without them Mar 15 03:03:43 oh Mar 15 03:03:49 this is a known problem Mar 15 03:04:05 it started rather recently, in a recent upgrade I believe Mar 15 03:04:09 I found this in my googling http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1682681 Mar 15 03:04:20 but making the .menu file didn't fix it forme Mar 15 03:05:09 it depends what rev was upgraded to Mar 15 03:05:11 but it works Mar 15 03:05:15 cstriking Mar 15 03:05:16 there was a short time it was broken Mar 15 03:05:28 still broken in the debian package Mar 15 03:05:30 like 1 day Mar 15 03:05:40 raster! Mar 15 03:06:05 strange Mar 15 03:06:06 doov! Mar 15 03:06:28 removing /etc/xdg/menus/enlightenment-applications.menu fixed it Mar 15 03:07:15 brb Mar 15 03:07:26 slick Mar 15 03:11:50 hmm Mar 15 03:11:59 I can't resolve addresses any more Mar 15 03:12:55 * SeligArkin slaps dns to work Mar 15 03:13:08 :( Mar 15 03:13:19 resolv.conf? arp arp arp Mar 15 03:13:40 ahha Mar 15 03:13:48 wrong route Mar 15 03:14:09 :D Mar 15 03:14:21 surprise! Mar 15 03:14:32 isn't network troubleshooting fun? ;) Mar 15 03:14:58 :P Mar 15 03:15:22 I need to add to the ifupdown to remove the usb route when the wifi route comes up Mar 15 03:15:26 whee Mar 15 03:15:32 yep! Mar 15 03:15:35 gotta remember that Mar 15 03:15:39 or else it's all screwy :p Mar 15 03:15:45 openmoko 101 Mar 15 03:17:01 ohai Mar 15 03:17:25 i iz in ur irc, testin mi mokoz Mar 15 03:17:33 hoenoez! Mar 15 03:17:49 IM IN UR FREERUNNER, RESOLVIN UR HOSTNAMEZ Mar 15 03:18:08 :P Mar 15 03:18:22 :P Mar 15 03:24:02 SeligArkin: what irc client on the moko? Mar 15 03:24:45 pidgin, irssi, etc Mar 15 03:25:06 billk: sshed to a remote server running irssi in screen Mar 15 03:25:14 * Dave high-fives selig Mar 15 03:25:23 SeligArkin: cheatin :) Mar 15 03:25:56 i love my remote irssi Mar 15 03:26:10 <3 Mar 15 03:26:16 i can read back after conecting Mar 15 03:26:22 of course :D Mar 15 03:26:29 how could you live without it ;) Mar 15 03:26:38 tried irsii on 2008.x but its not the shr archives - didnt realise pidgin could do it - will try. Mar 15 03:26:39 * Dave pets his remote irssi session Mar 15 03:26:40 cant do that with a bnc Mar 15 03:27:02 billk, haha yeah Mar 15 03:27:10 pidgin has a billion plugins Mar 15 03:27:27 ok my wrist huts from the touch screen Mar 15 03:27:31 I uninstalled it as fluff - will have to put it back and check it out :) Mar 15 03:27:40 hahhaha Mar 15 03:27:46 * SeligArkin goes back to laptop Mar 15 03:27:55 Selig, I used to IM and IRC from a freerunner back when I first got it working... Mar 15 03:28:15 after about two hours my wrists/hands were dying and I decided "okay, I had my fun, now fuck this" :P Mar 15 03:28:23 lol Mar 15 03:28:27 especilly when I was doing it no more than 10 feet from my laptop :P Mar 15 03:28:48 hey, sure, the novelty is great, and hooray you're celebrating a small personal victory... but still yeah :P Mar 15 03:29:14 Dave: I have IRCed from the shower. Mar 15 03:29:27 thats kinda how my old phone ended up bricked, the baggie leaked. >.> Mar 15 03:29:57 it had a full hw keyboard though, so that was alot less painful Mar 15 03:31:24 hahaha Mar 15 03:31:27 aww Mar 15 03:31:32 Yeah I think it's horrible Mar 15 03:31:46 I mostly did it for shits and giggles. :P Mar 15 03:31:56 I didn'tactualy think it was a smart idea Mar 15 03:31:59 one of my friends has a 'tough' phone and it's water-resistant, so she always sends me text messages from the shower Mar 15 03:32:04 and it always irks me... or weirds me out Mar 15 03:32:10 heh Mar 15 03:32:11 hahaha, don't we all :P Mar 15 03:32:19 to freak people out and enjoy the fun Mar 15 03:32:24 hey Mar 15 03:32:33 I've taken a freerunner to the bottom of a twelve foot pool! Mar 15 03:32:43 am I fucking crazy? or fantastically amazing? Mar 15 03:33:08 (I wanted to check the altimeter... among other things :P) Mar 15 03:33:33 it ended up coming upbecause I said "Damn #xkcd, distracting me from my shower", someone thought I was ircin in the shower I was like "Yeah i put my phone in a baggie" then the idea stuck in m head... so I did it Mar 15 03:33:45 Dave: and you water-proofed it...how? Mar 15 03:33:50 Guess :D Mar 15 03:33:54 I hope you did better than sandwitch bags. :P Mar 15 03:34:00 hahahaha yeah :p Mar 15 03:34:01 hm, where does the wall charger live? Mar 15 03:34:10 But I've used ziplocks for cellphones in the shower :P Mar 15 03:34:13 worked great Mar 15 03:34:19 johnsu01: in a remote corrner of the world Mar 15 03:34:41 johnsu, REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION Mar 15 03:35:02 at the back of a drawer, in a tangle with 8 or so other chargers with different voltages and/or connectors Mar 15 03:35:14 hey, stay out of my desk, mmontour! Mar 15 03:35:14 Dave: like, the equivalent of usb_curlim Mar 15 03:35:22 Ah! Mar 15 03:35:48 Dave: I would try it again... but I don't have the money to replace the phone if the baggie leaks.:P Mar 15 03:35:50 well, why didn't you say so?!! We know where the virtual charger lives -- it's the real one that we lose all the time. Mar 15 03:36:33 Don't worry, I can make better suggestions :) Mar 15 03:36:46 mwester, in your house -- check the fridge ;) Mar 15 03:36:46 look first in /sys/class -- you'll see the dirs for the bat; it might be around there (depends on your OS version) Mar 15 03:37:04 * johnsu01 digs Mar 15 03:37:10 no mokos in the fridge, just batteries. Mar 15 03:37:11 * SeligArkin snickers Mar 15 03:37:13 today I have had to dig for both the physical charger and the virtual charger Mar 15 03:37:24 Selig, vacuum-sealing storage bags ftw! Mar 15 03:37:38 Dave: haha Mar 15 03:37:39 * mwester has one of those machines. Mar 15 03:37:39 mwester, I have one in the fridge and one under a heat lamp :) Mar 15 03:37:44 * Dave high-fives mwester Mar 15 03:37:46 don't have one of those, sadly Mar 15 03:37:51 I was moving today, and so I put the wall charger in with the case of beer because I knew I wouldn't lose it then Mar 15 03:37:55 Selig, no fuss, no mess, no voided warranty! Mar 15 03:38:01 :) Mar 15 03:38:02 haha Mar 15 03:38:03 johnsu01: good thinking! Mar 15 03:38:07 only then someone moved it :( Mar 15 03:38:20 SOMEONE STOLE MAH BEER Mar 15 03:38:21 John, the developers try to make your life hard :) Mar 15 03:38:25 Muwahahahah Mar 15 03:38:32 Selig, sorry, I was makin room for mah mokoz! Mar 15 03:38:34 fortunately there was still beer there to placate me Mar 15 03:38:45 * Dave sends Johnsu01 SIGBEER Mar 15 03:39:00 tangogps on the freerunner got me to the truck rental place, too Mar 15 03:39:13 haha, I was about to say... Mar 15 03:39:25 TangoGPS got me to Taiwan... to return this freakin thing... Mar 15 03:39:26 heehee Mar 15 03:39:42 we all know the battery didn't last that long :) Mar 15 03:39:51 I think someone scaped a map pic of that actually, it was like turn left at africa and drive 21000mi Mar 15 03:39:57 john, haha true Mar 15 03:40:45 nbot weven with mintyboost + 24 pack of batterys? :P Mar 15 03:41:05 Use my battery pack! Mar 15 03:41:11 thats something I want to try,, making one of them Mar 15 03:41:32 I'm working on my SD adapter currently Mar 15 03:41:45 since I'm done with usb wifi and usb camera Mar 15 03:41:47 I should be banned from a soldering iron Mar 15 03:41:51 hahaha Mar 15 03:41:54 that's not all ;D Mar 15 03:41:59 oh? Mar 15 03:42:01 * Dave giggles Mar 15 03:42:23 well I am banned from the woman's restroom... Mar 15 03:42:47 Sounds like an entertaining backstory... though I fear you should save it for another time :P Mar 15 03:43:08 It's rather simple - I am biologicly male. :P Mar 15 03:43:30 \o/ Mar 15 03:43:45 ... hasn't stopped me before :P Mar 15 03:43:51 haha Mar 15 03:44:02 Though, honestly, I don't know why you'd bother anyhow... the mens restroom is always much nicer... Mar 15 03:44:03 I actualy look gender-nutral enough to possibly get away with it... Mar 15 03:44:13 and there's rarely a fucking line :P Mar 15 03:44:23 selig, teehee Mar 15 03:44:30 pretty sneaky! Mar 15 03:44:41 * SeligArkin likes looking female Mar 15 03:44:53 Hey, whatever you prefer baby ;) Mar 15 03:44:57 hehe Mar 15 03:45:03 * SeligArkin blushes Mar 15 03:45:15 * Dave smiles Mar 15 03:45:43 I just realised something Mar 15 03:46:02 I took a picture of my face when I was in the shower... it went to the SD card I installed debian to Mar 15 03:46:16 uh oh... Mar 15 03:46:33 I am unsure as to whether that is for better or worse... :D Mar 15 03:46:38 hahaha Mar 15 03:47:01 ;) Mar 15 03:47:31 so, it's plugged into the wall Mar 15 03:47:35 but status says not charging Mar 15 03:47:48 /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status that is Mar 15 03:48:50 johnsu01: strange Mar 15 03:48:51 johnsu, can't be trusted! Mar 15 03:48:55 I think it is only charging while idle, when I touch the screen to bring it back, the charging icon is there for a second but then disappears Mar 15 03:48:55 mine says that too Mar 15 03:49:02 so yeah,i thoink it is a lie Mar 15 03:49:49 johnsu, as joerg taught me long ago, the only valid thing to check is the CC (coulomb counter), and that's only valid if you haven't swapped batteries since boot (which is normal) Mar 15 03:50:02 look in /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/ Mar 15 03:50:42 There's a "usb_curlim" and a "chg_curlim" there Mar 15 03:51:19 johnsu01: the driver has been tweaked recently to change the way it handles "full" Mar 15 03:51:35 interesting Mar 15 03:51:42 johnsu01: in the past, it would switch to trickle charge; so you would continue to see "charging" for the status. Mar 15 03:51:48 right Mar 15 03:52:14 mmontour: ah, thanks Mar 15 03:52:17 It was determined from the bat vendor that this might damage the bat, so now the charger stops charging when full, lets it run empty just a bit, then charges it again. Mar 15 03:52:27 So you will now see it cycle when it is full. Mar 15 03:52:30 chg_curlim is currently 97 Mar 15 03:52:35 (this is not uncommon for many devices) Mar 15 03:52:36 yeah Mar 15 03:52:57 chg_curlim == 97 ? Sounds like it does not recognize your charger Mar 15 03:53:14 it's the one that came with the phone Mar 15 03:53:35 uh oh Mar 15 03:53:45 you sure you didn't take that off my desk instead, johnsu? ;) Mar 15 03:54:32 mwester: the charger hardware shuts off when the charge current falls below a threshold, and the hardware re-enables charging when the voltage falls low enough Mar 15 03:54:53 SHOULD Mar 15 03:55:09 ~_~ Mar 15 03:55:11 STOP DOING THAT! Mar 15 03:55:14 MAKEME Mar 15 03:55:20 apt: botsnack Mar 15 03:55:20 :), Dave Mar 15 03:55:23 <3 Mar 15 03:55:33 When I tested it, the battery would drain quite a bit before the charger turned back on Mar 15 03:55:48 I keep trying to go ~.~ but I end up disconnecting from my ssh session,lol Mar 15 03:55:49 same here Mar 15 03:55:50 Fail. :/ Mar 15 03:55:51 * mmontour has graphs somewhere - I think I saw it get to about 80% capacity before it re-started Mar 15 03:55:55 mmontour: interesting technique; one would think we could do better with the columb counter. Mar 15 03:55:57 haahahh Mar 15 03:56:00 oops? :P Mar 15 03:56:07 * SeligArkin nods Mar 15 03:56:08 * Dave makes funny faces at Selig Mar 15 03:56:12 ~.~ Mar 15 03:56:16 mwester, agreed. Mar 15 03:56:50 I think that the software does now give the charger a kick when it sees the CC capacity go down Mar 15 03:57:06 There's been a lot of work on that subsystem since I last looked at it closely Mar 15 03:57:15 and when was that? Mar 15 03:57:48 * SeligArkin wanders off Mar 15 03:58:12 * Dave confiscates SeligArkin's sandwich bags Mar 15 03:59:03 haha Mar 15 03:59:30 I ain't risking loosing this,I aint got the moneys to get a new. :P Mar 15 03:59:44 don't we know it :P Mar 15 04:01:17 so.. should I set chg_curlim to 500mA? Mar 15 04:01:27 why not go to 1A? Mar 15 04:01:34 baby steps Mar 15 04:01:39 agreed :P Mar 15 04:03:28 Dave: it was around August/September 2008 when I was doing PMU stuff Mar 15 04:03:59 yeah, I remember... I was there :) Mar 15 04:04:09 I was just checking if we were thinking about the same time ;) Mar 15 04:04:57 it didn't like 500mA but it took 500 Mar 15 04:05:09 :) Mar 15 04:08:42 Just checked my charger - it detected it properly and set usb_curlim to 1000, chg_curlim to 996 Mar 15 04:10:52 hm Mar 15 04:11:54 I set it to 996 then it dropped down to 992 Mar 15 04:26:05 I was going to make a shell script... now I forget what it was going to do... Mar 15 04:26:10 oh! Mar 15 04:28:21 uh oh Mar 15 04:28:27 She's turning into a zombie! Mar 15 04:28:31 Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Mar 15 04:29:10 brainz? where? Mar 15 04:30:00 apt: brains? Mar 15 04:30:01 BRAIIINZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Mar 15 04:31:35 * SeligArkin re-created her apt-find script Mar 15 04:31:50 which just is a shell scvript containing apt-cache search $* Mar 15 04:31:53 less typing. :P Mar 15 04:35:19 huhu Mar 15 04:35:25 I think we've all done that ;) Mar 15 04:35:50 except those of us with perverse fixations on typing apt-get/aptitude strings Mar 15 04:41:14 * SeligArkin looks for openttd in the debian repos Mar 15 04:41:25 * SeligArkin fails Mar 15 04:41:27 :( Mar 15 04:43:44 aww Mar 15 04:44:01 I think I still have it installed... on my gamemoko Mar 15 04:44:46 gamemoko? Mar 15 04:45:01 Affirmative. Mar 15 05:17:40 Hmm Mar 15 05:18:08 Thats what my project for tomorrow will be, getting openttd onto my openmoko Mar 15 05:18:34 Dave: do you use shr or debian or ??? Mar 15 05:18:59 Illume, and 2007 primarily Mar 15 05:19:48 ah, I am rather happy with debian Mar 15 05:20:42 After you whipped it enough Mar 15 05:20:51 indeed Mar 15 05:21:08 it just needed a good beating :p Mar 15 05:21:19 :P Mar 15 05:21:27 whip it good! It's not too late! Mar 15 05:22:06 ;D Mar 15 05:22:12 it jsut needed a good beating ;) Mar 15 05:23:08 * SeligArkin apt-gets dosbox Mar 15 05:23:17 my friend is obsessed with dos Mar 15 05:23:25 * Dave rolls his eyes Mar 15 05:23:41 he actualy runs it on a couple modern computers Mar 15 05:23:48 hot Mar 15 05:23:56 dos 7.whatever ? :P Mar 15 05:24:01 freedos Mar 15 05:25:33 ah :p Mar 15 05:26:03 I have it on an old laptop Mar 15 05:26:21 Wonderful Mar 15 05:27:36 What other kinky shit do you have down in that dungeon of yours, Selig? ;) Mar 15 05:28:31 heh Mar 15 05:29:00 I have my laptop, a windows computer for games, a linux computer I use as a lil server... and that oldlaptop Mar 15 05:29:32 oh, okay :p Mar 15 05:29:43 oh and an old dumb terminal Mar 15 05:29:54 like printer-port communications dumb terminal Mar 15 05:30:08 oh, and here I thought you were referring to your boyfriend ;p Mar 15 05:30:15 haha Mar 15 05:30:22 nope, lacking one of them Mar 15 05:30:34 :[ Mar 15 05:31:09 meh, starting to feel happyer being alone... too much insanity in the world to have to tough it out with two people Mar 15 05:33:45 heh Mar 15 05:33:49 Enter the slaxxin Mar 15 05:34:42 counterstriked out Mar 15 05:34:51 rofl Mar 15 05:35:03 messing with mythtv Mar 15 05:35:29 thats something I want to get setup one day Mar 15 05:35:32 my own stb Mar 15 05:35:40 (set top box) Mar 15 05:35:56 RAGE Mar 15 05:36:01 detect annoying commersials and KILL THEM! Mar 15 05:36:09 knoppmyth Mar 15 05:36:46 seligarkin is that a counterstrike nick? Mar 15 05:36:51 no Mar 15 05:36:55 oo Mar 15 05:38:36 * SeligArkin looks at the tinme Mar 15 05:38:46 0139 Mar 15 05:39:01 05:39 Mar 15 05:40:29 speedy, go back to bed :p Mar 15 05:43:32 * shellevil is in bed Mar 15 05:43:41 * shellevil is in pain, and can't get to sleep. Mar 15 05:43:50 Aww Mar 15 05:44:02 well stopit Mar 15 05:44:02 been lifting stuff around today Mar 15 05:44:07 * SeligArkin gets a knife Mar 15 05:44:10 what hurts? Mar 15 05:44:26 :O Mar 15 05:44:36 trepanation ftw? :p Mar 15 05:45:17 wha?I was just going to lop off what hurts... Mar 15 05:45:44 ...... Mar 15 05:46:04 "This is very bad. Enlightenment SEGV'd" Mar 15 05:49:23 :p Mar 15 05:49:34 NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER *SPANK* *SPANK* *SPANK* Mar 15 05:52:50 Dave: what time is it where you live? Mar 15 05:54:44 * SeligArkin curls up in her bed and goes to slepe Mar 15 05:54:47 nini Mar 15 05:56:18 Not so fast! Mar 15 05:58:17 * SeligArkin looks at dave Mar 15 05:58:19 yes? Mar 15 05:58:36 heh heh >:) Mar 15 05:58:56 * SeligArkin yawns and lays back down Mar 15 05:59:00 talk to ya tomorrow Mar 15 05:59:05 Goodnight dear. Mar 15 05:59:10 Sweet dreams. Mar 15 05:59:11 hehe Mar 15 05:59:17 (hopefully not of freerunners) Mar 15 07:47:44 how adjust "tar" program to open archives gzip? i have shr Mar 15 07:55:11 ahoi Mar 15 07:59:31 Linkas, Use the "z" switch. Mar 15 08:15:28 KenYoung: what? Mar 15 08:16:22 <|Marco|> tar xfz Mar 15 08:16:27 <|Marco|> xvfz Mar 15 08:16:43 Linkas, If I understood your question correctly, you want tar to operate on an archive that was gzip'd." Mar 15 08:17:29 Linkas, If you would normally do, for example, tar xf blah.tar, you now need to do tar zxf blah.tar.gz . Mar 15 08:18:06 i want install debian on microsd card and install.sh script shows that tar cannot work with gzip archives Mar 15 08:21:38 script shows:"tar does not support gzip archives" Mar 15 08:22:19 Linkas, Can you just unzip it before passing it to the script? Mar 15 08:23:18 KenYoung:no because script download archive from internet Mar 15 08:24:21 Linkas, Then it sounds like you need to either modify the script, to make it unzip after the download, or install a version of tar which can process gzip'd files. Mar 15 08:25:38 KenYoung: ok i will do that like you said. Mar 15 08:26:14 Linkas, Sorry I can't be of more help - I've never run into a tar version that could not handle zip'd files. Mar 15 08:30:51 Linkas: is gzip installed? Mar 15 08:32:17 i don't installled gzip Mar 15 08:33:17 is it or not? Mar 15 08:34:11 Defiant-_: what is name of this package Mar 15 08:34:28 Linkas: I don't know, probably gzip. Mar 15 08:34:42 gzip is easy to check if it is installed. If yes, the gzip binary is there Mar 15 08:34:52 try which gzip Mar 15 08:36:04 i have not gzip Mar 15 08:36:18 then install it Mar 15 08:36:30 good idea:) Mar 15 08:52:19 Defiant-_:i installed gzip, now should work, but i haven't got time to test it. thanks for help Mar 15 10:05:18 Advertisement: win 214e by writing a small app for FR: http://cofundos.org/project.php/?id=150#bids Mar 15 10:18:48 rhkfin, It'll be interesting to see how high the jackpot has to go before you start getting some bites. Mar 15 10:21:15 Does cofundos give any statistics about how large the typical award is for a successful project? Mar 15 10:26:56 KenYoung: AFAIK cofundos hasn't had many succesful projects, as pointed out in the comments here: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/pay-for-your-open-source-software/#comments Mar 15 10:27:37 But our approach is a little different so we'll have a successful project :) Mar 15 10:35:22 rhkfin, Perhaps your web page announcing the contest should prominently display, near the top and in bold letters, the prize that is being offered. Mar 15 10:37:26 KenYoung: I just posted a new blog post about it.. OTOH I don't want people to participate because of money.. But I could add it there anyway. Mar 15 10:42:42 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07libeflvala * r24fb0256f0f9 10/examples/vapi/Makefile.am: Add package dbus-glib-1 to make the exmaples compile Mar 15 11:42:15 freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07libeflvala * rc874ef904f28 10/eflvala-1.0.pc.in: Fix eina pkg-config dependency Mar 15 11:45:29 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rbeef8c40c13e 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: ogsmd: Fix debug commands with new parser Mar 15 12:36:24 mwester: it's still not clear what bat-manuf's statement *really* meant in the end. They told we mustn't *charge* the battery all the time. That's obvious. But the definition of "charge" still is fuzzy. For me the batery seems to have no way to detect a constant charging voltage that is identical to the internal bat voltage (means charging *current* drops to 0) Mar 15 12:42:33 mwester: well maybe LiIon needs some >4.0V to accept any charge to a "near-full" level, and as soon as axternal voltage is removed, the bat voltage drops to the nominal 3.7V. We obviously mustn't apply a voltage >3.7V for extended periods then. But it's still not completely checked AFAIK Mar 15 12:44:45 mwester: basically I think it's safe to apply constant voltage for trickle charging all the time, if we can find a voltage where a full battery doesn't take any more charging current Mar 15 13:03:25 Silly question; where can I learn about the default repositories? I have some incorrect urls in my config files and want to find out what they're about and which ones I should have by default. Mar 15 13:09:26 The wiki has a page with repositories on it, but it says nothing about default reps. Mar 15 13:11:02 nio_: default repos for? Mar 15 13:12:51 OM2008.12 Mar 15 13:13:02 nio_: you need to use the 2008.8 repositories Mar 15 13:13:12 ah, k, thanks Mar 15 13:14:12 Ran the Kustomizer script yesterday, obviously it couldn't find some stuff so now I've got to clean it up again. :) Mar 15 13:18:07 nio_: it's not about the feeds.. Mar 15 13:18:17 or yes, it's about opkg.org repository.. Mar 15 13:18:52 go to opkg.org and fidn the apps you want to install from there.. tangogps fails because the latest kustomizer doesn't know to install libexif that tango needs, devel version has this included. Mar 15 13:25:27 Ok. So it's safer to consult opkg.org for packages first than to try the opkg command right away? Mar 15 13:26:41 not safer/unsafer but opkg can't install from opkg.org repository that well, it's broken. Installing opkg install http:/... works ~better -> check opkg.org.. Mar 15 13:31:25 Ah, so it depends on the package and dependencies wether a plain opkg install, without urls, works or not? In other words, the official OM2008.8 repository and opkg.org aren't really in sync I guess. Ah well, I'll just check the opkg.org site and the wiki pages if I want to install something I don't know about. Mar 15 13:44:43 nio_: I actually now released 0.4 to fix these problems.. But it requires reflashing to run it.. Mar 15 13:45:19 the repositories have different apps. opkg.org has more 'apps' as 2008 repos have mostly system stuff (some apps, too) Mar 15 15:45:16 * SeligArkin screams Mar 15 15:45:26 Stop turning off the screen! Mar 15 15:46:56 uh oh Mar 15 15:47:08 * Dave slowly backs away... Mar 15 15:48:30 * SeligArkin pokepokepokepokepokepokepokes the phone Mar 15 15:49:37 WHY IS YOU DOINGMEAN STUFFS TO SELIOGSADLMKAEKFL Mar 15 15:49:39 LASDMFSKDLFMAS Mar 15 15:51:00 * SeligArkin stares at it Mar 15 15:51:00 Yeah, pretty much :p Mar 15 15:51:18 it.... it stoped frameworkd Mar 15 15:54:07 hot Mar 15 15:54:18 debian? Mar 15 15:54:24 :D Mar 15 15:54:45 also, is suspend borking sdcard fixed? Mar 15 15:55:09 (I would think so, or else people wouldn't be using it for that long) Mar 15 15:55:19 * SeligArkin downloads her local area's maps Mar 15 16:11:53 Where do you hail from, Selig? :P Mar 15 16:12:22 Near philly Mar 15 16:12:27 Philidelpha Mar 15 16:13:16 * SeligArkin slaps frameworkd for crashing again Mar 15 16:13:37 or it didn't like me disconnecting from SSH when I started it from there Mar 15 16:13:44 * SeligArkin restarts directing logs to /dev/null Mar 15 16:13:47 and in the bg Mar 15 16:14:11 ... Mar 15 16:14:14 It killed wifi again Mar 15 16:14:19 this is getting annoying Mar 15 16:15:41 don't give up :D Mar 15 16:15:43 :O Mar 15 16:15:48 Selig, stay away from me! Mar 15 16:15:51 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Mar 15 16:15:54 ALSO Mar 15 16:16:01 Beware of the Lazy lulus... ¬_¬ Mar 15 16:16:16 wat Mar 15 16:16:18 who is lazy lulyy? Mar 15 16:16:22 lulu* Mar 15 16:16:25 MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA Mar 15 16:16:37 FAMOUS LAST WORDS Mar 15 16:17:07 you know that got me curious now. :P Mar 15 16:18:19 Well, ask Zorkman or bumble if you dare... ¬_¬ Mar 15 16:18:57 Also, I'm glad I've likely expired from the tango friends map at this point... since I wouldn't want to take on yet another stalker :P Mar 15 16:19:30 haha Mar 15 16:19:49 Yeah, you laugh... Mar 15 16:19:55 but you don't know the half of it... ¬_¬ Mar 15 16:20:00 ~_~ Mar 15 16:20:01 STOP DOING THAT! Mar 15 16:20:05 apt: shut up Mar 15 16:20:07 yes, master dave Mar 15 16:20:11 Good girl Mar 15 16:20:13 * Dave pets apt Mar 15 16:21:02 * SeligArkin thinks she sees how to disable the screen idling Mar 15 16:21:18 I need to learn dbus better Mar 15 16:22:26 I would never enable something like that. :P Mar 15 16:22:32 * SeligArkin is too parinoid as it is. :P Mar 15 16:23:16 set STALK_MODE_ENABLE 1 Mar 15 16:23:22 ¬_¬ Mar 15 16:23:39 heh Mar 15 16:23:56 * Dave sends his bat army after selig Mar 15 16:24:16 eep Mar 15 16:25:23 only 4040 more images to download! Mar 15 16:25:43 pfft Mar 15 16:25:46