**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 16 02:59:57 2009 Mar 16 07:41:28 hi, are there milestone for fix problems with 8gb minisd and u-boot for neo1973? Mar 16 07:41:32 thanks in advance Mar 16 07:47:45 geaaru: looks like it's left to the community. starox is working on SDHC support for gta01 in u-boot and plans to do it for Mar 16 07:47:49 Qi as well. Mar 16 07:48:22 ah wonderful, :) thank you very much Mar 16 07:48:29 geaaru: alternatively, you can just flash the kernel to NAND and supply a root=/dev/sda1 parameter to use rootfs on uSD. Mar 16 07:50:11 yes, but last kernel images are greater then kernel image partition and i can't in this moment, compile a minimal kernel that is compliant with flash kernel partition of neo Mar 16 07:50:52 geaaru: do you have any problems with cross-compiling? Mar 16 07:51:14 geaaru: also you can flash the kernel to the rootfs NAND partition. Mar 16 07:54:45 ah ok, i try then to flash kernel to rootfs nand partition, thanks Mar 16 07:55:25 geaaru: don't forget to tweak u-boot boot command to read the kernel from there (and don't forget you need an additional parameter to read kernel >2M). Mar 16 07:55:59 what is addition parameter to read kernel >2M? Mar 16 07:57:49 geaaru: i guess that's the size in bytes to read from NAND in nandread command. Should be the last one and be more than the kernel size. Search the wiki or archives for more detailed instructions. Also please report the results of using the recent kernel on gta01 on the mailing list. Mar 16 07:58:18 k, i will do asap, still thanks Mar 16 08:14:49 morning Mar 16 08:28:00 good morning Mar 16 08:29:23 Hello Mar 16 08:30:56 i'm installing debian on microsd card and i have a little problem. i can't run script Mar 16 08:31:37 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ls Mar 16 08:31:37 Desktop duke3d-openmoko install.sh Mar 16 08:31:37 configure-uboot.sh gg opendoom Mar 16 08:31:37 root@om-gta02 ~ $ chmod +x configure-uboot.sh Mar 16 08:31:37 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ./configure-uboot.sh Mar 16 08:31:38 -sh: ./configure-uboot.sh: not found Mar 16 08:31:41 Linkas: check mount option. Mar 16 08:31:41 root@om-gta02 ~ $ Mar 16 08:31:54 sdf Mar 16 08:32:07 if it has noexec, you can't run executables files. Mar 16 08:32:28 mount -o remount,exec /media/card Mar 16 08:33:19 root@om-gta02 ~ $ mount -o remount,exec /media/card Mar 16 08:33:19 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ./configure-uboot.sh Mar 16 08:33:19 -sh: ./configure-uboot.sh: not found Mar 16 08:36:30 Linkas: your interpreter is maybe not found Mar 16 08:36:47 what should i do? Mar 16 08:36:55 if you have #!/bin/bash replace it with #!/bin/sh Mar 16 08:38:35 i have sh. how can i change sh to bash? Mar 16 08:40:54 Linkas: If you have /bin/sh it's not what give you your error. It is something else. Mar 16 08:42:48 starox_: "#!/bin/bash replace it with #!/bin/sh"-now working sorry, my mistake. thanks for help Mar 16 08:49:46 now i have another problem. this scrip need "dfu-util installed, available from the regular Debian archive" where i can get this dfu-util? i put normal dfu-util to home directory and doesn't work Mar 16 08:53:12 Linkas: is your home directory included in your PATH? Mar 16 08:55:31 no Mar 16 08:58:42 now script shows "/home/root/dfu-util: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected" Mar 16 09:12:57 Linkas: show that line then, probably you somehow damaged it. Mar 16 09:23:25 /home/root/dfu-util -a u-boot_env -U env.orig Mar 16 09:25:26 Linkas: That looks ok, but i wonder where ( comes from. Mar 16 09:26:09 root@om-gta02 ~ $ ./dfu-util Mar 16 09:26:09 ./dfu-util: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected Mar 16 09:26:20 dfu-util is damaged Mar 16 09:33:48 Linkas: Finally it seems you need bash: opkg install bash Mar 16 09:34:00 and then revert the change made on the script Mar 16 09:40:04 now ./configure-uboot.sh: line 78: /home/root/dfu-util: cannot execute binary file Mar 16 09:51:57 now work but "./configure-uboot.sh: line 80: uboot-envedit: command not found" Mar 16 09:57:23 i must install on my desktop "pkg-fso-keyring" but i have fedora-on wiki is only howto install "pkg-fso-keyring" on debian Mar 16 11:26:19 lindi-, well, is everything workingL Mar 16 11:31:16 TAsn: nope :( Mar 16 11:31:31 what's not working? Mar 16 11:31:36 let's split it to pieces Mar 16 11:31:38 TAsn: kernel crashes Mar 16 11:31:41 :) Mar 16 11:31:55 did you manage to play/get sound from the headset? Mar 16 11:32:55 and from gsm? Mar 16 11:33:07 if so, this means this is only the connection you don't get right. Mar 16 11:33:20 try first to tunnel only the mic of the headset Mar 16 11:33:25 does this work alone? Mar 16 11:55:24 good morning everyone Mar 16 11:56:26 Are there any SHR users in here that are having trouble with the dependency gtk+-fastscaling? If so, I have a solution. I just tried it on my freerunner and it works great! Mar 16 11:57:17 jhass840: well on SHR the package is called gtk+ so install that and force opkg Mar 16 11:58:21 * Weiss wishes gtk+-fastscaling would just go away : Mar 16 11:58:21 :/ Mar 16 12:00:20 tig|: that didn't work for me when I tried it. I just went to edited /var/lib/opkg/shr-armv4t and added the line Replaces: gtk+-fastscaling to gtk+ Mar 16 12:02:35 fair enough :) might be worth bunging it on the wiki :) Mar 16 12:05:11 to be honest, it wasn't my idea. I saw it in a forum somewhere (some guy recommending that the SHR developers do it) and I told them about it but they ignored me so I did it myself and it worked Mar 16 12:05:44 tig|: If you want to put it up on the wiki you can. I would but I actually have to get ready for class now Mar 16 12:09:28 tig|: it's on line 33114 in the file /var/lib/opkg/shr-armv4t just add the line Replaces: gtk+-fastscaling anywhere after that Mar 16 12:33:31 Someone needs to fix timezones. Nobody ever says anything this time of day. Mar 16 12:45:43 SpeedEvil: what should we say? Mar 16 12:46:59 * toggles_w <3 beer Mar 16 12:47:31 beer: you should make shoutouts to Dave! Mar 16 12:48:54 DocScrutinizer: I hear that you're sending a C & R to Finland to fix the buzz, the letter is on it's way to Germany. Any changes of including another set in the same letter? Mar 16 12:49:21 rhkfin: np Mar 16 12:49:29 Great! Mar 16 13:00:36 TAsn: http://paste.nerv.fi/59807632.txt Mar 16 13:01:16 thought so Mar 16 13:01:22 rhkfin: wasn't aware it's to Finland though :) And I don't know how many sets I should trow in the envelope Mar 16 13:01:28 TAsn: it runs out of cpu power Mar 16 13:01:30 this means the moko is not powerful enough for all this sampling Mar 16 13:01:32 yeah. Mar 16 13:01:42 TAsn: i need to do the up-sampling in C :) Mar 16 13:01:56 you should ;] Mar 16 13:02:02 shouldn't be *that* hard Mar 16 13:02:55 what upsampling??? Mar 16 13:03:46 DocScrutinizer: well, i get kernel crash if i try to record and playback from hw:0,0 at 48000 Mar 16 13:03:52 DocScrutinizer: since 8000 works i better use it for now Mar 16 13:04:41 use plughw:0.0 Mar 16 13:05:17 DocScrutinizer: how do i tell that to record at 8000 but upsample it to 48000? Mar 16 13:05:23 there's already highly optimized resampling in ALSA Mar 16 13:06:55 ooh kernel crash Mar 16 13:06:56 awesome Mar 16 13:07:07 i guess u need some kernel devs to look into it Mar 16 13:07:07 :) Mar 16 13:07:11 plug decides on his own which rates to use on "both ends", based on capabilities queried from next layer Mar 16 13:07:26 DocScrutinizer: 'arecord -D hw:0,0 -t raw -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 - | aplay -t raw -D usb -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2' causes overruns Mar 16 13:07:48 DocScrutinizer: either way a kernel crash is a bug to be fixed :) Mar 16 13:08:10 raster: sure Mar 16 13:08:16 DocScrutinizer: and aplay consumes 78% cpu time Mar 16 13:53:48 DocScrutinizer: what was the temperature of the solder you used? Mar 16 13:54:36 DocScrutinizer: ah, found it, 375C Mar 16 13:55:00 rather high. around some 350°. but that completely depends on your soldering syle Mar 16 13:55:19 no real reason lead solder wouldn't work Mar 16 13:55:36 yep Mar 16 13:55:53 or even low-melting-point. Mar 16 13:56:08 it's all just recommendations. You even can take 1k5 and a 50uF Mar 16 13:56:36 DocScrutinizer: ok, we'll see how it goes :) Mar 16 13:56:47 * rhkfin trusts a coworker :) Mar 16 13:56:54 this rework isn't very critical. a lot of variations are possible Mar 16 13:58:27 just a accurate description how prototype has been done. Nothing more Mar 16 13:59:21 I don't claim it's the only way, nor do I think it's free of glitches Mar 16 14:00:05 e.g I should have recommended to use a high quality flux Mar 16 14:04:24 right.. My nokia starts to die -> Would like to start using OM as a primary -> would like to get rid of buzz.. Mar 16 14:04:35 But yep, we'll report to you from Finland soonish :) Mar 16 15:02:56 hi there! I have my FreeRunner connected to Mac OS X via usb and it worked fine the first time, then the connection broke and mac os x does not detect the ethernet device anymore (says "not connected"). Who is to blame here? The Openmoko or the mac side? Mar 16 15:04:45 I think macos allocates a new device identified for the freerunner whenever it changes mac, which it does on boot at least (or did when I last checked), you sure it's not just that? Mar 16 15:04:50 identifier Mar 16 15:05:26 (if it hasn't been done already, the network gadget driver really should use a static private mac derived from the bt mac for instance) Mar 16 15:05:31 no the device name has not changed nor is there a new device (both with ifconfig and the GUI) Mar 16 15:05:36 okay Mar 16 15:05:52 does mac os x have 'dmesg' or something? Mar 16 15:06:05 I may have screwed things up by bringing up the wifi device manually Mar 16 15:06:11 henk: it does Mar 16 15:06:50 henk: it says find CDC driver failed...hm... Mar 16 15:07:27 C-Keen: try another usb port until it's correctly recognized Mar 16 15:08:02 will do henk thanks Mar 16 15:08:50 henk: thanks that did it Mar 16 15:12:23 hm, I have flashed the om2008.12 release but the package sources are still pointing to .8 Is this intended? Mar 16 15:16:36 hm, also the signature files for opkg are missing :/ Mar 16 15:44:47 hm, a lot of places mention an application button on my UI but I don't seem to have one Mar 16 15:46:54 C-Keen: Aux button on top right of Freerunner and power button are the two only buttons i know Mar 16 15:47:10 Aux button on top left :-) Mar 16 15:48:38 nullix: I meant more like a menu entry on 'Home' than a physical button Mar 16 15:48:43 sorry for the confusion Mar 16 15:49:36 * johnsu01 updates to get all mickey's patches Mar 16 15:49:47 nullix: I have opkg install[ed] openmoko-panel-wifi and it does not show up Mar 16 15:51:22 well i don't know, but i have no more Wifi settings since my update into om2008.12, i had them previously with version i got when i buy it, but i don't know what version it was. Mar 16 15:53:21 meanwhile i installed android on memory card... Mar 16 15:53:48 i kept multi boot though Mar 16 15:57:44 C-Keen: i have "openmoko-panel-wifi - 0.0.0+svnr4344-r0 - Shows the wifi status in the Openmoko panel" installed, but no wifi panel either Mar 16 15:58:59 nullix: great :/ Mar 16 16:03:57 tig|: did you ever get around to putting that stuff on the wiki? Mar 16 16:44:42 C-Keen: yes, it's inteded that it points to 2008.8, and the sifnatures have never worked. Mar 16 16:44:48 This means that everything is normal :) Mar 16 16:45:09 C-Keen: check Kustomizer if you want to have it up'n running easily: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Kustomizer Mar 16 16:45:30 rhkfin: ah thanks! Mar 16 16:46:25 * SeligArkin is begining to think there isn't a window manager for her that she would like Mar 16 16:46:34 SeligArkin: kwin :) Mar 16 16:47:02 rhkfin: for theopen moko Mar 16 16:47:10 I like illume, but its been too crashy on me. x.x Mar 16 16:47:49 I am seriously considering writing my own. Mar 16 16:48:13 SeligArkin: why not use some proven-to-work wm? Mar 16 16:48:15 and thats not good,considering my habit of gettingsomething barely working then stoping all work on it Mar 16 16:48:29 SeligArkin: what's wrong with kwin? Mar 16 16:48:45 * rhkfin plans to try kde on OM - if someone has it compiled somewhere.. debian..? Mar 16 16:49:36 I want a wm spificly designed to be used on a device like the openmoko Mar 16 16:49:49 matchbox is a close fit,but the inability to switch windows kills that Mar 16 16:50:15 SeligArkin: icewm Mar 16 16:50:22 C-Keen: i will try kustomizer too, then we could exchange info about its behavior Mar 16 16:51:17 nullix: C-Keen if interested, you're also welcome to join Kustomizer ml to share ideas & discuss the behaviour Mar 16 16:52:26 thanks Mar 16 16:53:16 well, i have multiboot, then it reboots by default on android for phase2 i have to force it to reboot on internal. Mar 16 16:54:18 [ Mar 16 16:55:04 * SeligArkin hmms Mar 16 16:56:46 uhm: seems that second run was detected during stop of first phase ( i have -> second run detected, c00l :) traces in first ssh Mar 16 16:57:12 and now it started something but then screen is black buttons not responding Mar 16 16:57:23 no usb conenctivity eitehr Mar 16 17:01:34 had to disconnect battery to recover Mar 16 17:02:38 nullix: was the red aux light flashing? Mar 16 17:02:49 nope Mar 16 17:02:56 huh Mar 16 17:03:12 * SeligArkin shrugs Mar 16 17:03:16 but now it gets englightment Mar 16 17:04:45 some messages with modules errors but it works Mar 16 17:07:33 now i run second second step Mar 16 17:08:20 i have got kustomizer windows and i upgrade Mar 16 17:11:40 nullix: did the first stage finish & restart? Mar 16 17:12:05 yes first stage finiished long time ago :-) Mar 16 17:12:18 and restarted Mar 16 17:12:38 so everything's good? Mar 16 17:13:02 i am in "installing all coll apps on the net" Mar 16 17:13:09 yep Mar 16 17:13:19 pong package was not found Mar 16 17:13:28 nothing worrying yet Mar 16 17:14:55 just as i wrote previously : second stage was trying to start right before restart at end of first kustomizer stage / ssh session, but it didn't do anything. Mar 16 17:15:11 We're almost ther be patient :) Mar 16 17:16:15 An error occurred, return value: 2. Mar 16 17:16:22 uhm not so helpfull error Mar 16 17:16:50 while configuring libboost-signals1.33.1 Mar 16 17:21:24 some additional erros, 7, 2 ,5 ,2 ... Mar 16 17:22:21 there should be a required library ftp so something that stores these damn libraries so we wont have to hunt because of this unorganized cluster f--k Mar 16 17:23:45 sorted fiest by which branch they work in Mar 16 17:23:59 first* Mar 16 17:26:03 nullix: some packages from opkg.org fail.. I know.. Mar 16 17:26:55 But that's bad if it doesn't restart. In a way it's ok but it might be slow if you have a lot of stuff (=tangogps map tiles) on the memory card Mar 16 17:30:15 it restarted after first phase but it just hang after enlightment, restarting it did it. Mar 16 17:30:33 it is currently in second phase still installing new packages Mar 16 17:30:54 ( We're almost there message is quite optimistic... ) Mar 16 17:31:39 nullix: ah, ok.. so first stage was good, it restarted but when trying to start enlightenment, nothing happened? That's weird.. You're sure it wasn't screensaver/suspend that had time to hit in? Mar 16 17:31:49 nullix: agreed :) Mar 16 17:33:21 rhkn: well i am sure that screensave/suspend actualy WAS hit (when i restarted it was set to 30s, i deactivatted it ) Mar 16 17:33:32 but buttons didn't resume Mar 16 17:33:47 and usb conenctivty was lost ( due to syuspend certainly ) Mar 16 17:34:20 perhaps the script should make sure it disable suspend mode. Mar 16 17:34:50 ok.. I'd like to know the way to disable the suspend except preventing it when running something.. Mar 16 17:35:14 I have no idea how to change the default suspend time to 'off' from command line.. Mar 16 17:35:25 me neither Mar 16 17:35:46 by the way : you're script is great it saves times Mar 16 17:36:38 nullix: that's why it was written :) Mar 16 17:37:14 The downside is that some packages fail to install because they're not available etc. If you feel something's missing, surf to opkg.org.. Mar 16 17:39:48 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Kustomizer-install.png is quite different from what i saw on my screen Mar 16 17:40:21 i have really less messages even i i see in ssh all packages installing (for me it is engough ) Mar 16 17:41:10 it look like it installs many time same packages Mar 16 17:42:04 nullix: it actually doesn't install many times. The problem is with the ash functions and 'tee' that are used to write the log to a file.. For some reason it messes the output.. Mar 16 17:42:35 ok, but logged output is ok ? Mar 16 17:42:48 nullix: no, it's a mess, too.. Mar 16 17:42:48 secondstage 2>&1 | tee -a kustomizer.log Mar 16 17:43:06 that's the line.. If anyone has any ideas how to improve it, you're welcome.. Mar 16 17:47:23 (06:07:33 PM) nullix: now i run second second step Mar 16 17:47:35 so many packages... Mar 16 17:47:39 nullix: but you're right, should run & take a new screenshot.. Mar 16 17:47:54 nullix: indeed.. Mar 16 17:48:27 what app did you use to take screenshot ? Mar 16 17:48:55 RESTART in 30s Mar 16 17:49:33 nullix: qpe-scap from ssh Mar 16 17:49:52 earlier version installed that in stage one (to be able to take the screenshot :) Mar 16 17:50:27 too late :-) Mar 16 17:51:21 np :) Mar 16 17:51:34 Okay, I've been having trouble with GPS so I decided to run ps -e in the terminal to see of fso-gpsd is running. I see that it is in memory, but the amount of time it has been running always shows 00:00:00 no matter what. I have tried changing the GPS from "Auto" to "ON" in SHR settings, and also running fso-gpsd -n. However, no matter what I do it appears that fso-gpsd is never running Mar 16 17:53:40 jhass840: what distro, SHR I guess? Mar 16 17:53:45 ah, right :) Mar 16 17:54:07 rhkfin: Same problem? I guess it's broken? Mar 16 17:56:49 hello can anyone help me with u-boot ? Mar 16 17:57:10 rhkfin: reboot ok ! super i'am playing Linball :-) Mar 16 17:57:14 thnaks Mar 16 17:57:22 have to go home now Mar 16 17:57:24 bye Mar 16 17:57:28 jhass840: no, I don't run SHR, just asked - knowing the distro makes it easier for people to help Mar 16 17:57:31 nullix: greta :) Mar 16 17:57:32 great Mar 16 17:57:43 freerunnerlive1: what's your question? Mar 16 17:58:02 i have a uboot meu changes with debian instller Mar 16 17:58:16 but i can not change it back Mar 16 17:58:47 i flashed some versions but the menu don't change Mar 16 17:58:56 he want to boot from sd card debian Mar 16 17:59:12 and the second option is boot ing from flash Mar 16 17:59:42 is there a way to change it that uboot boot first from flash ? Mar 16 17:59:47 The menu entries are stored in environment variables. You can boot the Freerunner into NAND u-boot (hold down power then aux) then connect over USB-serial ("screen /dev/ttyACM0" or similar on your host pc) Mar 16 18:00:08 "printenv", "setenv", and "saveenv" u-boot commands will let you make any changes you want Mar 16 18:00:39 "bootcmd" is what u-boot executes on a normal boot, and "menu_N" specifies what each menu entry does Mar 16 18:01:55 is there a manuel because i 'm not enfglish people and only a user :-( or do you have the reight command to type into the terminal ? Mar 16 18:01:59 please ? Mar 16 18:03:24 i must have running distrobution to change it ? Mar 16 18:04:19 The closest thing to a manual is the openmoko wiki, e.g. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader_environment Mar 16 18:05:06 You don't need a running distribution. You connect over USB to the u-boot console Mar 16 18:05:46 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rd053f8390450 10/libfsoframework/ (10 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: plugin is a typemodule now Mar 16 18:05:47 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * re1bf7be5aab4 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/kernel26_leds/plugin.vala: fsodevice: catch up with fsoframework changes Mar 16 18:06:41 set to usb or serial ? Mar 16 18:06:54 usb Mar 16 18:07:04 and then ? Mar 16 18:07:11 printenv Mar 16 18:07:33 printenv with options ? Mar 16 18:07:48 into terminal ? Mar 16 18:08:18 You should take some time to read the wiki pages and understand what the commands do. I don't have time right now to figure out the exact commands that you need to enter, but if you 'pastebin' the output of the printenv command then someone else here might be able to help Mar 16 18:08:47 ok i want to work :-) Mar 16 18:08:51 thanks a lot Mar 16 18:08:59 maybe a .jff2 file after kustomizer is finished would save everybody some time Mar 16 18:09:15 S Mar 16 18:11:37 slaxxin: feel free to do it.. a) I don't want to host it, b) I'd like people also have a look at the script to learn stuff c) more work. But I'm all for it if someone else does it. Mar 16 18:11:55 I'd prefer a working repository.. Mar 16 18:13:17 well the script is quite usefull antways Mar 16 18:16:11 it gives also the possibility to comment away thing they don't want. Mar 16 18:16:44 And if you look it closely, it'd also copy some config files from /media/card and run you custom script from there, if they existed :) Mar 16 19:03:51 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r6d8465cadd9f 10/libfsoframework/configure.ac: fsodevice: lower dbus requirement to 1.2.1 Mar 16 19:06:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r90d966a94571 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/subsystem.vala: fsoframework: this was not supposed to be commited yet Mar 16 19:10:44 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8cab892af0cf 10/libfsoframework/fsoframework/subsystem.vala: fsoframework: compile it Mar 16 19:10:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9f28a1302798 10/libfsoframework/ (README fsoframework/subsystem.vala): add note about our vala mirror. Mar 16 19:25:25 * Quinn_Storm grumbles Mar 16 19:25:49 back to trying to flash the device, still not getting any luck (using -oo and such, but maybe I'm not doing the process in quite the right way somehow?) Mar 16 19:26:07 its just hanging at the 'reset target' state no matter what I issue on the second ssh session Mar 16 19:27:34 Quinn_Storm, why not using dfu-util? Mar 16 19:28:41 talking about flashing gsm firmware Mar 16 19:28:46 Quinn_Storm: are you using GTA01? Mar 16 19:28:52 yeah, its a GTA01 Mar 16 19:29:18 I got a partial flash the first try, and ever since I haven't been able to get it to do anything Mar 16 19:29:23 Quinn_Storm: ok, then try to do the following: first, power off and remove the battery. Mar 16 19:30:13 done Mar 16 19:30:40 Quinn_Storm: Now fully boot and connect via ssh. Mar 16 19:31:40 Quinn_Storm: after that pastebin the "ps ax" output. Mar 16 19:32:46 Quinn_Storm: have you already downloaded moko11 btw? Mar 16 19:32:52 yeah I have Mar 16 19:33:15 * Quinn_Storm is waiting on firefox right now, its being crashy on her little linux box (typing here from a different box) Mar 16 19:34:21 http://pastebin.ca/1362529 Mar 16 19:35:48 Ok, now /etc/init.d/fso-framework stop (or something very similiar) Mar 16 19:36:43 hmm there's no fso-framework, just fso-gpsd and fso-monitord Mar 16 19:37:07 Quinn_Storm: Then it's called framework or something like that. Mar 16 19:37:08 there's frameworkd, fso-gpsd, fso-monitord... Mar 16 19:37:09 ok Mar 16 19:37:23 frameworkd is shut down Mar 16 19:38:08 Quinn_Storm: you can also disable bluetooth, connman and everything else not needed. Please pastebin the ps ax output after that. Mar 16 19:40:05 http://pastebin.ca/1362535 Mar 16 19:41:02 Quinn_Storm: wow, cool Mar 16 19:41:47 Quinn_Storm: now "cd /usr/sbin" and "FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -b 115200 -f $HOME/path_to_moko11.m0" Mar 16 19:41:57 ok, no resetting first? Mar 16 19:42:46 Quinn_Storm: no, why reset :) Mar 16 19:42:54 Quinn_Storm: so, no resetting first, it's not needed. Mar 16 19:44:48 ok, that's running Mar 16 19:45:22 its hung at bootloader: (reset target) as expected Mar 16 19:45:39 Quinn_Storm: on the other console do "s3c24xx-gpio b7=0", wait 1 sec, "s3c24xx-gpio b7=1", wait 1 sec, "s3c24xx-gpio b7=0" Mar 16 19:46:37 hmm, nothing from that Mar 16 19:47:01 Quinn_Storm: try to repeat the last step with s3c24xx-gpio Mar 16 19:47:35 hey! Mar 16 19:47:36 Quinn_Storm: ah, it might be necessary to do "echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on" and if it doesn't help, repeat gpio dance after that. Mar 16 19:47:50 hey PaulFert` Mar 16 19:48:00 you're good with Linux in general? Mar 16 19:48:26 * Quinn_Storm is trying these bits Mar 16 19:48:37 Fougner: to some degree, yes. That's the only OS i use. Mar 16 19:49:07 damn, no luck so far Mar 16 19:49:41 Quinn_Storm: repeat the gpio dance Mar 16 19:49:53 already did Mar 16 19:49:57 do it again? Mar 16 19:50:11 Quinn_Storm: yes (have you "powered" the modem via sysfs already?) Mar 16 19:50:31 yeah Mar 16 19:50:37 then I redid the gpio dance Mar 16 19:50:42 since nothing happened Mar 16 19:51:07 Quinn_Storm: repeat again, it won't hurt :) Mar 16 19:51:25 nothing Mar 16 19:51:48 Quinn_Storm: ok, what's the output of s3c24xx-gpio B6 Mar 16 19:52:02 ">0" Mar 16 19:52:31 Quinn_Storm: try to set it to 1, then to 0 again. Mar 16 19:52:54 ok, did that Mar 16 19:53:48 Quinn_Storm: If fluid is still waiting, repeat the "main" gpio dance. Mar 16 19:54:17 did so, fluid's still waiting Mar 16 19:54:22 PaulFert`, okay, I'm trying to setup samba, and I guess I'm just blind, because I try to connect to it, and it just tells me: "(Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED" Mar 16 19:54:38 I guess it's not directly related to samba Mar 16 19:54:45 Quinn_Storm: If it doesn't help, kill fluid, and do "FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -od13,13 -vvv -f $HOME/path_to_moko11.m0" Mar 16 19:54:52 I'd say it's about the general networking or something.. firewall? Mar 16 19:55:06 Fougner: query me in private Mar 16 19:55:44 ok, now its spewing R's Mar 16 19:56:10 Quinn_Storm: now repeat the gpio dance. Mar 16 19:56:47 no effect on its output Mar 16 19:58:36 Quinn_Storm: try the instructions in "Powercycle the modem" block to turn it on and then "s3c24xx-gpio b7=1" to turn it on again Mar 16 19:58:55 ok, just follow them as written? Mar 16 19:59:32 Quinn_Storm: yes, just the block with powercycling. Mar 16 19:59:57 ok Mar 16 20:00:20 ok, did that, followed by b7=1, no effect Mar 16 20:02:00 just staring at a screenful of 'R' Mar 16 20:02:28 Quinn_Storm: try again the same (the block and then turn on). Mar 16 20:03:21 still nothing Mar 16 20:05:07 Quinn_Storm: hm, let me think... Mar 16 20:05:49 Quinn_Storm: wow, one more idea :) Mar 16 20:06:24 Quinn_Storm: what is the output of gpio H0, H1, H2 and H3? Mar 16 20:06:41 all report 'F1' Mar 16 20:08:42 Quinn_Storm: hm, that can be a clue Mar 16 20:09:58 Quinn_Storm: do stty -crtscts -F /dev/ttySAC0 Mar 16 20:10:10 Quinn_Storm: then check the gpio outputs of H0-H3 again. Mar 16 20:11:35 no change Mar 16 20:11:41 Quinn_Storm: after that you need to do H1=0 (to force flow control off) Mar 16 20:11:43 (should I kill fluid?) Mar 16 20:11:47 ok Mar 16 20:11:55 Quinn_Storm: not needed, i guess. Mar 16 20:12:06 ok, set h1 to 0 Mar 16 20:12:10 no change on fluid Mar 16 20:12:29 Quinn_Storm: now try to do b7=0, wait, b7=1 again Mar 16 20:12:50 nothing Mar 16 20:13:23 Quinn_Storm: and again? Mar 16 20:14:29 no change Mar 16 20:14:33 re Mar 16 20:14:41 Quinn_Storm: try to restart the fluid Mar 16 20:15:36 ok, have fluid restarted, still R Mar 16 20:15:51 anyone intereested in a freerunner with a damaged screen? Mar 16 20:15:57 h0-h3 read: F1 <0 F1 F1 Mar 16 20:15:58 Quinn_Storm: after fluid starts to set R, you're supposed to power-cycle the modem. b7=0, b7=1 should do that. Mar 16 20:16:19 powercycling doesn't seem to be doing anything Mar 16 20:16:24 still just showing 'R' Mar 16 20:16:40 Actually, it's not powercycling, but should be equivalent to. Mar 16 20:17:02 well, either way, fluid doesn't seem to be liking it Mar 16 20:17:10 I'm not remebering detail but there was some nasty mux of debug console and gsm-tty Mar 16 20:17:51 Yes, but the debug console is supposed to be turned off on "echo 1 > power_on" Mar 16 20:18:12 also I'm not sure about ttySACx for gta01 Mar 16 20:18:26 we should summon mwester ;-) Mar 16 20:19:17 No, that is definetly correct. Port #0 Mar 16 20:19:48 DocScrutinizer: can testrst be of any help? Mar 16 20:19:54 PaulFert`: can gta01 and gta02 screens be swapped? Mar 16 20:20:24 ok, werner's posting at ML definitely was based on GTA01 sop Mar 16 20:20:30 shellevil: ask Doc, he's the hardware expert :) I guess yes :) Mar 16 20:20:53 shellevil: yup Mar 16 20:21:00 err - DocScrutinizer I meant. I assume it's a soldered down ribbon? Mar 16 20:21:11 nope Mar 16 20:21:25 pcba is a connector Mar 16 20:21:41 Interesting, thanks. Mar 16 20:21:48 np Mar 16 20:21:50 Quinn_Storm: my advice would be to give the GSM a real power-cycle (shut down the phone, remove USB power and battery for a few seconds) Mar 16 20:21:50 Quinn_Storm: try to repeat from the battery removal following the wiki instruction closely, but use my last fluid command instead of the one given. Mar 16 20:22:02 yup Mar 16 20:22:09 ok, trying that again to see if its any better this time Mar 16 20:22:17 Also remove the /etc/rc.d symlink so that frameworkd (or anything else that will touch the modem) is not started on reboot Mar 16 20:22:35 though werner told it's not needed Mar 16 20:22:38 oh crap, lol, was too early in pulling battery, will do that, then reboot again Mar 16 20:23:03 Sorry, should've mentioned the symlink one first Mar 16 20:23:32 mwester: ping!!! Mar 16 20:24:34 nah, mmontour you also did the 01-gsmflash, right? Mar 16 20:25:15 Yeah, I followed the wiki instructions and it worked for me. I think it was "moko10" Mar 16 20:25:27 anyway, me need some meal Mar 16 20:25:36 mmontour: on gta01? Mar 16 20:27:06