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Mar 26 03:31:41 <CIA-54> openmoko: 03werner * r4960 10/developers/werner/bin/ (apply-kernel noise.pl test-build-kernel): 
Mar 26 03:31:41 <CIA-54> openmoko: Tools for processing kernel patch submissions:
Mar 26 03:31:41 <CIA-54> openmoko: - apply-kernel takes a patch from a mail, tentatively applies it, and tests it
Mar 26 03:31:41 <CIA-54> openmoko: - test-build-kernel test builds the kernel for a number of configurations
Mar 26 03:31:41 <CIA-54> openmoko: - noise.pl filters build output so that only new stuff (e.g., warnings) shows
Mar 26 03:31:44 <CIA-54> openmoko:  up
Mar 26 03:32:54 <CIA-54> openmoko: 03werner * r4961 10/developers/werner/bin/mdflt: 
Mar 26 03:32:54 <CIA-54> openmoko: Yahoo are right about RFC822 and I was wrong: no whitespace is required
Mar 26 03:32:54 <CIA-54> openmoko: after the colon.
Mar 26 03:33:50 <CIA-54> openmoko: 03werner * r4962 10/developers/werner/bin/makek: 
Mar 26 03:33:50 <CIA-54> openmoko: Make my kernel make script silent. That way, it doesn't clutter the output
Mar 26 03:33:50 <CIA-54> openmoko: when used with noise.pl
Mar 26 03:35:48 <CIA-54> openmoko: 03werner * r4963 10/developers/werner/bin/comm4: The times are a-changing: I now use xchat instead of good old plain ircII.
Mar 26 03:37:53 <KenYoung> Is there anyone only who might be able to answer a question about doing the moko11 upgrade using Joerg's uSD methos?
Mar 26 03:38:08 <KenYoung> Ooops I meant online, not "only"
Mar 26 03:38:09 <Chocky> don't ask to ask, just ask
Mar 26 03:41:12 <KenYoung> OK, I copied his image flash-moko11-2.image onto my gta02, and unmounted /media/card, and did dd if=/home/root/flash-moko11-2.image of=/dev/mmcblk0p1 .   I then tried the NOR uboot from uSD, but it would not boot.   Do you know what I've done wrong?
Mar 26 03:41:42 <Chocky> yes
Mar 26 03:41:52 <Chocky> don't copy it to a partition.  The instructions are clear on this.
Mar 26 03:42:26 <KenYoung> So what should I copy it to?
Mar 26 03:42:34 <Chocky> the sd card!
Mar 26 03:42:47 <KenYoung> Which is called?
Mar 26 03:43:03 <Chocky> I could tell you, but I think you can figure it out easily.
Mar 26 03:43:15 <KenYoung> Obviously I can't.
Mar 26 03:43:32 <Chocky> what is "p1"?
Mar 26 03:43:41 <KenYoung> Partition 1?
Mar 26 03:43:54 <KenYoung> So I want mmcblk0 ?
Mar 26 03:54:50 <KenYoung> Thanks, Chocky.   That seems to have done the trick.
Mar 26 03:55:00 <Chocky> :o
Mar 26 03:58:32 <Dave> ;)
Mar 26 03:58:54 <Chocky> http://www.iphoneappratings.org/wolfenstein-3d-classic
Mar 26 03:58:59 <Chocky> that's ok, we have duke3d
Mar 26 03:59:35 <Chocky> and you have to pay for it.  fnar.
Mar 26 04:25:39 <astrocub> "Verizon Wireless recently announced their ‘Any Apps, Any Device’ option for their customers in 2008. With this announcement, a CDMA2K-EVDO-based Openmoko has become a distinct possibility."
Mar 26 04:25:45 <Chocky> hah
Mar 26 04:26:01 <astrocub> CDMA2K-EVDO-based Openmoko, is that what openmoko is or is that a future phone?
Mar 26 04:26:09 <Chocky> it's a fantasy
Mar 26 04:26:15 <astrocub> :\
Mar 26 04:26:23 <Chocky> as is the Verizon silliness
Mar 26 04:27:05 <astrocub> ah yes, cdma. i remember now, it is silly compared to gsm
Mar 26 04:27:14 <Chocky> foolish!
Mar 26 04:27:27 <Chocky> just think.  EDGE
Mar 26 04:27:30 <astrocub> on the bright side, my family's plan ends soon! :)
Mar 26 04:28:01 <Chocky> sweet. sign up for another 2 years :p
Mar 26 04:29:03 <astrocub> not sure what i'll go with, but whatever it is, it's something that will accept an openmoko
Mar 26 04:29:22 <Chocky> T-Mobile or AT&T it is.
Mar 26 04:29:28 * Chocky has PAYG with TM
Mar 26 04:33:23 <astrocub> oh, wow it uses qtopia as well :)
Mar 26 04:34:22 <astrocub> and CAD files! :')
Mar 26 04:34:39 <astrocub> this is going to be fun :)
Mar 26 04:34:45 <Chocky> :o
Mar 26 06:21:20 <CIA-54> openmoko: 03werner * r4964 10/developers/werner/bin/test-build-kernel: 
Mar 26 06:21:20 <CIA-54> openmoko: Run checkpatch to catch editing glitches. (Also nice to have when using
Mar 26 06:21:20 <CIA-54> openmoko: test-build-kernel for original changes.)
Mar 26 07:23:16 <methril|work> morning
Mar 26 08:23:36 * PaulFertser has just cut his nails to the real minimum and still couldn't reproduce any problems SomeT had with opening the battery compartment.
Mar 26 08:25:05 * Rakshasa has weak fingernails and bends his thumbnail everytime opening the bock cover.
Mar 26 08:25:13 <Rakshasa> back
Mar 26 08:25:43 <PaulFertser> Rakshasa: you know the mechanics, right? Cut it more so the lever will be shorter.
Mar 26 08:26:19 <Rakshasa> Yeah, But they're always cut to the bare minimum and they still bend.
Mar 26 08:26:40 <PaulFertser> Rakshasa: and push in perpependicular to the back cover, should work without issues ;)
Mar 26 08:27:22 <Rakshasa> Yeah. =P
Mar 26 08:27:27 <PaulFertser> Rakshasa: do you have a cron job to cut your nails regularly? ;)
Mar 26 08:28:14 <Rakshasa> Sure. My brain runs anacron.
Mar 26 08:38:23 <Psi> hm.. are there any up to date images for gta01 atm?
Mar 26 08:39:17 <PaulFertser> Psi: what distro are you talking about? SHR unstable?
Mar 26 08:39:46 <Psi> doesnt matter
Mar 26 08:39:55 <Psi> i just want to have a play see if i can use it yet
Mar 26 08:40:38 <Psi> id like grps to work in the gui and it to have a decent webbrowser
Mar 26 08:45:40 <PaulFertser> Psi: install SHR?
Mar 26 08:46:20 <PaulFertser> Psi: and you can try to install Paroli on SHR or (if it's available) unstable image (paroli included) from downloads.openmoko.org .
Mar 26 08:46:59 <Psi> thanks, ill give it a go
Mar 26 08:51:53 <Wonka> .oO( i'd like the OM to have all the functions and usability of e.g. the iPhone... )
Mar 26 09:09:31 <panicking> hi all
Mar 26 09:12:43 <PaulFertser> panicking: Hey :)
Mar 26 09:15:00 <panicking> panicking, hey
Mar 26 09:15:01 <panicking> :)
Mar 26 09:20:15 <serdar1> panicking: where do you live?
Mar 26 09:20:22 <panicking> spain
Mar 26 09:27:09 <panicking> and you serdar1 ?
Mar 26 09:29:14 <panicking> PaulFertser, good morning from spain
Mar 26 09:29:37 <PaulFertser> panicking: Heh, good afternoon from Russia :)
Mar 26 09:29:46 <serdar1> panicking: Germany. I thought you were somwhere our times are different :)
Mar 26 09:30:02 <serdar1> usa or australia :)
Mar 26 09:30:42 <panicking> serdar1, 10:28
Mar 26 09:37:57 <serdar1> [10:30:38]    panicking | serdar1, 10:28   
Mar 26 09:44:32 <dent> 10:30:43 here :)
Mar 26 09:50:16 <Psi> any idea which tzdata package has new zealand in it?
Mar 26 09:52:33 <joejoe> hi, tried some to install etk web browser? there is some unmet dependency:
Mar 26 09:52:34 <joejoe> /usr/e17/bin/ewww: symbol lookup error: /usr/e17/bin/ewww: undefined symbol: ecore_getopt_parse
Mar 26 10:32:50 <saracen_> hmm, nintendo ds stylus seems to be a decent size to use with the freerunner.. if only I could attach it to the phone somehow.
Mar 26 10:33:45 <husku> saracen_: duct tape?
Mar 26 10:34:12 <saracen_> haha :), wouldnt really be able to take it off and use it again very easily.
Mar 26 10:37:39 <SpeedEvil> hot-melt-glue
Mar 26 10:37:46 <SpeedEvil> run md5sum /dev/zero to remove
Mar 26 10:46:30 <saracen_> lol, pretty imaginative
Mar 26 10:46:48 <saracen_> sounds like you've thought about this to solve previous "problems" ;x
Mar 26 10:56:34 <CIA-54> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r6a3f0fb6456c 10/ (tests/testelementary.vala vapi/evas.vapi): vapi: add init and shutdown to evas.vapi
Mar 26 10:58:07 <panicking> serdar1, can you create a mirror of the image
Mar 26 10:58:26 <panicking> serdar1, can you create a mirror of my images?
Mar 26 11:00:33 <panicking> serdar1, I have truble with the bandwidth I can't work
Mar 26 11:11:54 <Psi> whats the best web browser atm?
Mar 26 11:12:07 <Psi> for gta01 / shr
Mar 26 11:17:58 <husku> Psi: dillo is nice, but does not support everything. yet, i find the lack of support to be suitable for moko since gprs is really slow and screen is small.
Mar 26 11:18:43 <Psi> do pages render properly?
Mar 26 11:19:04 <husku> Psi: in a way.
Mar 26 11:19:30 <Psi> ok, ill give it a go sometime thx
Mar 26 11:20:56 <husku> Psi: slashdot does not render how you expect, but it is more usable the way dillo does it.
Mar 26 11:21:33 <Psi> got to get shr running from sdcard first, no free space to install anything when running from flash
Mar 26 11:21:55 <SpeedEvil> I personally found firefox (running remotely, displayed on GTA01) quite adequate on the small screen with stylus.
Mar 26 11:22:31 <Psi> are there any high level broswer that run on gta01/02?
Mar 26 11:22:53 <SpeedEvil> I personally don't see why FF wouldn't - in pinciple, I couldn't get it to compile.
Mar 26 11:23:07 <Psi> heh
Mar 26 11:23:13 <SpeedEvil> I have run FF1.5 on a somewhat similar platform - PII/300 with 64M of RAM
Mar 26 11:23:21 <SpeedEvil> And swap of comparable speed.
Mar 26 11:23:33 <SpeedEvil> Once you had over 10 pages open for a while, it could get slow.
Mar 26 11:24:31 <SpeedEvil> But, even noting that the PII is probably twice as fast as GTA01 - at least - it's not going to be very slow for one or two tabs open.
Mar 26 11:24:40 <SpeedEvil> Ok - massive javascript will make it slug.
Mar 26 11:46:27 <serdar1> panicking: query
Mar 26 11:46:50 <panicking> Anyone know the application to import contact
Mar 26 11:46:53 <panicking> and put in android
Mar 26 11:46:53 <panicking> ?
Mar 26 12:52:07 <serdar1> so back from break :)
Mar 26 12:52:12 <serdar1> panicking: query?
Mar 26 12:52:36 <panicking> serdar1, 
Mar 26 12:52:48 <panicking> go ahead
Mar 26 13:18:15 <morphis> heyho
Mar 26 13:46:26 <CIA-54> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r527a16a240cc 10/etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/schema/phone.yaml: opreferencesd: add schema entries for ring-vibration and message-vibration
Mar 26 14:10:46 <dwb1> hi... I got the openmoko phone, and haven't been able to put it down... apart from taking the time to recommend it to people
Mar 26 14:11:10 <dwb1> Anyways, I created a package for the 'hotspot' access controller coova-chilli : http://www.opkg.org/package_176.html
Mar 26 14:14:32 <serdar1> hmm
Mar 26 14:15:11 <serdar1> in tmp/deploy/glibc/images/ is no jffs2 file only bins
Mar 26 14:15:31 <SeligArkin> interesting text message
Mar 26 14:15:35 <SeligArkin> from: _2
Mar 26 14:15:36 <SeligArkin> erm
Mar 26 14:15:37 <SeligArkin> _@
Mar 26 14:15:47 <SeligArkin> its empty
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