**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 21 02:59:57 2009 Apr 21 03:18:45 where did dave go Apr 21 03:20:49 The Mokos got him. Apr 21 03:22:55 oooo nos Apr 21 03:37:16 any idea of why i would get a debugfs creation failed error after installing the december version of the openmoko os? Apr 21 03:41:04 any ideas? Apr 21 03:43:35 is anyone home? Apr 21 03:43:51 no idea Apr 21 03:44:17 what distro do you use on it duffle? Apr 21 03:44:48 The one with zhone. Apr 21 03:45:03 I'll be switching to the qtextended distro though. Apr 21 03:45:53 ah, i had debian on this thing, but i got a new microsd card and wanted to try out the newest build of the om distro Apr 21 03:46:07 I had the most luck with it. Apr 21 03:46:23 yea, me too Apr 21 03:46:36 i was hoping 2008.12 would be better. i just found out about it. Apr 21 03:46:42 obviously, it doesn't work Apr 21 03:46:43 lol Apr 21 03:47:02 You might want to make sure that you updated the kernel Apr 21 03:47:42 2008.12 worked for me and was fairly stable... add in opkg.org and it was pretty good. Apr 21 03:48:17 ah well, i'm having no luck Apr 21 03:48:41 flashing it again to be sure Apr 21 03:48:48 i know it's a filesystem error Apr 21 03:48:52 i have no idea why though Apr 21 03:50:44 it's a paper weight right now Apr 21 03:52:05 I've never really bothered to put the os on an sd card. Apr 21 03:53:12 it's bad business Apr 21 03:53:25 alas, it's the only way to install debian Apr 21 03:53:35 the opensmartphone.org stack is out now Apr 21 03:53:50 i might try it if this doesn't work Apr 21 03:54:14 oh, it appears to be dead Apr 21 03:54:33 it's been a while since i went researching stuff about the openmoko. i had it the way i liked it, now there's troubles Apr 21 03:55:53 I'd suggest you give qtextended a try if you've never tried it. It's even still being worked on. Apr 21 03:56:34 cool Apr 21 04:36:29 fso-unstable looks good Apr 21 04:36:35 daily Apr 21 04:58:31 man Apr 21 05:54:27 ü Apr 21 05:54:35 , Apr 21 05:54:53 ,,,,,,,,,,, Apr 21 07:17:27 good morning Apr 21 07:45:57 good morning Apr 21 08:26:21 has anyone tried 0m2009 testing? Apr 21 08:26:53 - Apr 21 08:27:09 is that usable/stable yet? Apr 21 08:27:20 i mean for daily use Apr 21 08:27:38 I just flashed it on my FreeRunner Apr 21 08:27:49 and how do you like it? Apr 21 08:27:55 I don't know whether it is stable for daily use Apr 21 08:28:10 It is very black and white.... Apr 21 08:28:26 I'm not sure whether it shoul look like I have it... Apr 21 08:28:27 hm, i'll try it when i'll have some time.. Apr 21 08:29:49 It would be nice if some screenshots were posted on the wiki Apr 21 08:29:51 I could check then whether the GUI is like it has to be Apr 21 08:31:35 jan___: there're some screenshots at the official project site (Paroli). Apr 21 08:32:29 jan___: as well as the description of what the project goals are. Apr 21 08:33:41 I going to have a look Apr 21 08:41:09 thanks paulfertser this clarified things Apr 21 09:06:00 jan___: you're welcome Apr 21 09:13:08 hi Apr 21 09:13:23 has anyone made it to compile the openmoko-qemu images? Apr 21 09:14:15 it looks like qemu compiles fine, but then the url of the images is broken, and if i change it to the current one, i get a wewird nandwrite error Apr 21 09:15:58 soul9: are you sure you really want it? Apr 21 09:16:21 PaulFertser, what do you mean? Apr 21 09:16:27 soul9: i mean, almost nobody uses qemu for development, except debian folks using qemu-builder (but that's a different story). Apr 21 09:16:52 yes, i am, i have a friend who wants to develop for the moko and doesn't yet have one to play with Apr 21 09:17:16 soul9: he doesn't need any emulator for that. Apr 21 09:17:34 why? Apr 21 09:17:51 soul9: start a nested X-server with 480x640 resolution and develop on the host natively. Apr 21 09:21:05 soul9: If he wants frameworkd, that's another story, but nobody's written a gsm modem emulator anyway, and frameworkd can be perfectly run on host. Apr 21 09:22:32 ok Apr 21 09:22:33 thanks Apr 21 09:22:38 you're probably right Apr 21 10:19:42 hello there Apr 21 10:20:04 does someone know, how i could show and delete sms with the console? Apr 21 10:20:21 because shr-messaging doesn't working Apr 21 10:24:29 skamster_: yep, use mdbus to access freesmartphone API directly. Apr 21 10:25:19 ok, but do you know the exactly commands? :$ Apr 21 10:25:29 i doesn't programm with it yet Apr 21 10:25:33 *code Apr 21 10:26:26 skamster_: just use mdbus -s to see available buses, then mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd to see available interfaces, etc. There's a good api documentation at freesmartphone.org Apr 21 10:26:49 ok, thanks :D Apr 21 10:29:04 lost small question.. when i got a method, how could i start this with mdbus? Apr 21 10:29:30 ah, nothing Apr 21 10:29:32 i see Apr 21 10:29:34 :) Apr 21 10:32:22 skamster_: btw, you might also want to try cli-framework, it provides an interactive python prompt to frameworkd's functions. Apr 21 10:34:39 no, it's ok.. mdbus works well.. i don't know, which messages i deleted, but i could delete it Apr 21 10:34:41 :p Apr 21 10:34:52 (i see just the id's Apr 21 10:34:53 ) Apr 21 10:46:58 does someone know, where the tree-init in openmoko-messenges3 would be created? Apr 21 10:47:36 (it is python, i hope and think?) Apr 21 10:54:48 skamster_: most shr apps are C ;) Apr 21 10:55:06 skamster_: see http://git.shr-project.org Apr 21 11:01:04 damn Apr 21 11:01:08 :( Apr 21 11:02:07 yeah, i saw the git, but there i didn't find the classes.. Apr 21 11:03:04 mh, then i make a checkout.. i just want try to make a fix for the messege-app (if i could is another question.. ;) ) Apr 21 12:49:35 hi ! Apr 21 12:54:24 i'm trying to connect my fr to my computer for the first time. i can ping it (ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0;ping 192.168.0.200), but can't ssh through it : ssh root@192.168.0.200 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused Apr 21 12:59:21 pierreN; you've got it wrong Apr 21 12:59:32 your FR's ip is 192.168.0.202 Apr 21 12:59:38 ow Apr 21 12:59:42 your pc's ip adres is 192.168.0.200 Apr 21 12:59:52 ahhh ok Apr 21 13:00:06 yeah it works better this way, thanks Apr 21 13:00:12 np Apr 21 13:00:16 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking is a pretty good page Apr 21 13:02:09 ok Apr 21 13:23:36 so i'm trying to update my open moko to OM2008.12. please correct me if i'm wrong : download .bin and .jffs2 from here : http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.12/ , then boot on NOR, then through ssh : "dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D file.jffs2 && dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D file.bin". and that's fine ? Apr 21 13:24:06 and the kernel Apr 21 13:24:14 oh ok Apr 21 13:25:14 use neotool, it is a gui wrapper around dfu-util if you are concerned Apr 21 13:30:07 dns53: why have another wrapper? For another source of confusion? Apr 21 13:31:11 well you batch the flashing, it just does the dfu-util like manual but it makes it easier Apr 21 13:33:37 pierreN: no "ssh" involved - you run dfu-util on the host PC. And it's "-a kernel", not "-a u-boot". Apr 21 13:35:24 ok Apr 21 13:35:47 on the wiki page they say u-boot : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner Apr 21 13:36:09 ah ok Apr 21 13:36:21 the .bin in the dir is a kernel not a boot loader Apr 21 13:37:37 it's usually named uImage*.bin Apr 21 13:40:27 ok Apr 21 13:41:28 and i don't find where to get the last version of u-boot. i've got the U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12, is that ok ? Apr 21 13:43:34 i've moved to qi, i'd just use the release version of u-boot as they can sometimes have problems, if everything is working don't bother flashing it Apr 21 14:06:00 ok dns53 Apr 21 14:07:48 now i have successfully updated to a new OM and a new kernel, thanks Apr 21 14:25:22 someone needs to update the latest news Apr 21 14:25:31 on the main page Apr 21 14:25:41 what news? Apr 21 14:26:47 what's new? Apr 21 14:31:03 do we know what plan b is? Apr 21 14:32:55 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/documentation/2009-April/001105.html Apr 21 14:33:56 slaxxer: what's wrong with that? Apr 21 14:34:09 im lazy Apr 21 14:35:27 i guess its just an interview Apr 21 14:36:05 slaxxer: looks like an interview. Apr 21 14:36:08 slaxxer: you are right. Apr 21 14:40:17 dns53: 9)More on Plan B and when it is expected? I thought it's an open hair straightener? Apr 21 14:44:01 plan b is "cover our own assas Apr 21 14:44:06 " Apr 21 14:47:27 slaxxer: cover the ares, save the earth~ Apr 21 14:48:50 wheres Dave--Cancun? Apr 21 15:14:43 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3fb3368f0561 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: allow overriding log_level, log_to, log_destination via environment Apr 21 15:14:49 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra502b35735e2 10/libfsotransport/ (19 files in 4 dirs): Apr 21 15:14:49 freesmartphone.org: fsotransport: new library; needed to be separated from libfsoframework since needed for other Apr 21 15:14:49 freesmartphone.org: projects such as libgsm0710mux, fso-abyss, fso-term, etc. as well, which might not need Apr 21 15:14:51 freesmartphone.org: the rest of libfsotransport. Apr 21 15:14:53 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rfbaa741d9637 10/libfsotransport/ (fsotransport-2.0.pc.in fsotransport/Makefile.am): fsotransport: link to -lutil for ptsname_r Apr 21 15:14:56 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r67041bb4aa5d 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/transport.vala: fsotransport: add setPriorities() Apr 21 15:14:59 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r48fe1f80f786 10/libfsoframework/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fsoframework: remove transport functions; they're now in libfsotransport Apr 21 15:15:04 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * ra57f1513482a 10/fsogsmd/ (8 files in 7 dirs): fsogsmd: Libgsm0710muxTransport now lives in its library Apr 21 15:36:23 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * r6b45453a9ffe 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): remove custom transport classes and use libfsotransport instead Apr 21 16:14:03 which is the most stable android image? Apr 21 16:14:17 Hi does the openmoko play OGG files with pythm? Apr 21 16:14:21 (SHR) Apr 21 16:15:51 spydon: panicking's cupcake is the most functional. Apr 21 16:16:21 frankS2, think yes. If not, try intone or mokoko ;) Apr 21 16:16:24 alephnull, do you have a link? :) Apr 21 16:16:36 ops, that was for frankS2 ^ Apr 21 16:16:52 aaarg, it was good, what a mess xD Apr 21 16:20:54 Sharwin_F: where can i get intone? and mokoko for SHR? Apr 21 16:21:18 opkg install mokoko Apr 21 16:21:20 frankS2, mokoko is in the repos Apr 21 16:21:28 intone is in opkg.org Apr 21 16:21:38 I personally use intone Apr 21 16:40:37 alephnull: you are aware the koolu beta 6 is out? Apr 21 16:47:40 hmmmmm i am following this how-to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking - but the openmoko still gets no internet thorugh USB0 :( Apr 21 16:47:42 any tips? Apr 21 16:50:34 frankS2: try eth1 Apr 21 16:50:40 too slow :( Apr 21 16:51:13 <|Marco|> okay, I've seen this on 2 different MicroSD cards now and in both ext2 and 3 now. I keep getting "No space left on device" error's while there is a LOT more space available: Apr 21 16:51:23 <|Marco|> /dev/mmcblk0p3 1922444 571852 1252936 31% /home/root Apr 21 16:51:31 <|Marco|> root@erika ~ $ touch test Apr 21 16:51:31 <|Marco|> touch: test: No space left on device Apr 21 16:52:04 <|Marco|> this is on SHR Testing Apr 21 16:52:44 |Marco|: What does df -i say? Apr 21 16:53:07 <|Marco|> thrashold: -i invalid option ? Apr 21 16:53:29 <|Marco|> 18:51 < |Marco|> /dev/mmcblk0p3 1922444 571852 1252936 31% /home/root Apr 21 16:54:00 <|Marco|> total size: 1922444 used: 571852 avalible: 1252936 Apr 21 16:54:33 Hm, SHR is using that replacement tool I forgot the name of. Apr 21 16:54:47 <|Marco|> thrashold: for what ? Apr 21 16:55:08 For everything, so df can't print the number of free inodes. Apr 21 16:55:22 <|Marco|> d'oh Apr 21 16:55:32 <|Marco|> ah, sandbox ? Apr 21 16:55:41 <|Marco|> busybox!! Apr 21 16:55:49 busybox, right Apr 21 16:55:59 Anyway, that's an unlikely cause anyway Apr 21 16:56:28 <|Marco|> What I don't understand is why it hit's always arround 512MB Apr 21 16:56:39 But I can't think of any other reason that a filesystem would pretend to be full Apr 21 16:57:17 The other candidate is the space reserved for root Apr 21 16:58:48 <|Marco|> thrashold: hold on Apr 21 16:59:39 <|Marco|> thrashold: http://pastebin.com/m334a05e3 Apr 21 17:03:38 There is space reserved for the superuser, by default it is 5%, is there any chance that your filesystem is formatted with a different value? (Couldn't find any way to read the value) Apr 21 17:04:40 dumpe2fs /dev/filesystem|grep eserved Apr 21 17:05:06 <|Marco|> thrashold: well, I didn't use any other way of formating the card's partitions than mkfs.extX /dev/partnr Apr 21 17:05:23 <|Marco|> shellevil: ? Apr 21 17:06:02 that'll tell you the number of reserved blocks in the filesystem Apr 21 17:06:19 <|Marco|> okay, hold on Apr 21 17:07:41 I really, really doubt that's te reason Apr 21 17:09:01 <|Marco|> haha, nice: Apr 21 17:09:02 <|Marco|> root@erika ~ $ dumpe2fs /dev/mmcblk0p3 |grep eserved Apr 21 17:09:02 <|Marco|> dumpe2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) Apr 21 17:09:02 <|Marco|> Segmentation fault Apr 21 17:09:48 err Apr 21 17:09:53 this is an ext2 partition? Apr 21 17:09:58 <|Marco|> mhm Apr 21 17:10:03 if not, please pretend I diddn't say anything Apr 21 17:10:07 <|Marco|> /dev/mmcblk0p3 on /home/root type ext2 (rw,errors=continue) Apr 21 17:10:18 ah Apr 21 17:11:03 <|Marco|> I had ext3 on all of them earlyer, but got the same problem, so I switched to ext2 in hopes that it'd help... Apr 21 17:12:10 |Marco|: What does dmesg say? Any errors on your card reported? Apr 21 17:13:19 Though, in case of errors, it should be giving you I/O error... Apr 21 17:13:52 <|Marco|> noop, no error Apr 21 17:14:06 <|Marco|> same problem I got on the previous card Apr 21 17:14:20 <|Marco|> this is a 4gb card the previous one was a 2gb Apr 21 17:14:43 Erm, can you create a file in a subdirectory? Apr 21 17:15:09 <|Marco|> err.. I just freed some space... Apr 21 17:15:12 <|Marco|> not much Apr 21 17:16:30 can you append to files when there is "no space left"? Apr 21 17:17:01 <|Marco|> thrashold: hold on, doing a upgrade Apr 21 17:17:31 <|Marco|> root: / and /home/root are on seperate partitions Apr 21 17:19:57 <|Marco|> oh god.. looks like the desktop icons are gone AGAIN Apr 21 17:21:35 "enlightenment was unable to run the app intone . the app failed to start" Apr 21 17:21:40 any tips? Apr 21 17:21:54 <|Marco|> frankS2: I'd also like to know Apr 21 17:23:23 frankS2, run it on terminal to see more info Apr 21 17:24:20 ah Apr 21 17:24:36 <|Marco|> wow, it's been a LONG time since I've seen an upgrade pulling that many packages in SHR Testing Apr 21 17:24:43 Sharwin_F: |Marco|: error loading shared lib: libecore_input.so.0: no such file or dir Apr 21 17:25:25 <|Marco|> frankS2: think I got the same error, but it's some time since I tested it. I'll give it a kick as soon as the upgrade is done Apr 21 17:27:09 is there a nice app for synk a freerunner (SHR or qt improved) with Kontact (kde Pim)? Apr 21 17:28:50 s/k/c/ Apr 21 17:29:40 frankS2, it says on the comments that only works for shr-unstable's E version Apr 21 17:29:58 Sharwin_F: how can i upgrade to unstable E? Apr 21 17:30:17 frankS2, flashing unstable? :P Apr 21 17:30:27 damn Apr 21 17:30:29 needs flash Apr 21 17:30:31 :< Apr 21 17:30:34 but don't know if it's broken right now, I've asked some minutes ago, wiating for an answer Apr 21 17:31:10 if it's ok, you can flash and then change feeds to testing in order to not break things when upgrading Apr 21 17:36:01 No, you can't flash unstable and change the feeds to testing -- crossing feeds is like crossing the streams in ghostbusters. Apr 21 17:40:48 oh Apr 21 17:40:50 fuck me Apr 21 17:40:54 updated packagages Apr 21 17:40:59 and the icons dissepeared Apr 21 17:41:01 haha Apr 21 17:41:02 i hate this Apr 21 17:41:07 <|Marco|> frankS2: me to Apr 21 17:41:13 <|Marco|> just did the same thing :( Apr 21 17:41:26 i guess i could do a flash now then Apr 21 17:41:27 lol Apr 21 17:41:30 xD Apr 21 17:43:13 Sharwin_F: where can ifind the unstable images? Apr 21 17:43:52 frankS2, http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ Apr 21 17:44:21 uhm Apr 21 17:44:24 which ones shall i pick Apr 21 17:56:06 which u-boot should I use for panickings android images? Apr 21 17:56:12 or should I use qi? Apr 21 17:59:44 my understanding was that qi is the way to go for android, if you have a gtao2, anyways Apr 21 18:05:41 hmmmm Apr 21 18:05:44 android work on openmoko? Apr 21 18:05:46 :O:O Apr 21 18:07:07 gps work+S Apr 21 18:07:10 ? Apr 21 18:27:23 freesmartphone.org: 03Sebastian 07libeflvala * rd40b29e1bdaa 10/vapi/evas.vapi: [evas.vapi] extend with basic Evas.Image functions. I can display an Evas.Image in an Elementary.Box with these bindings so they can't be totally wrong. Apr 21 18:40:55 freesmartphone.org: 03Sebastian 07libeflvala * r4bb6186ded37 10/vapi/evas.vapi: [evas.vapi] some more (untested) data_get/set functions for Evas.Image Apr 21 19:46:59 hey therez Apr 21 20:30:06 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-term * r378646a510b1 10/ (Makefile.am configure.ac src/terminal.vala): no need to use libfsoframework, libfsotransport is enough Apr 21 20:30:27 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * r78bd2beb2a19 10/gsm0710mux/manager.vala: bail out, if someone wants to use SOCKET Apr 21 20:30:31 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * r5a3753837fe9 10/.gitignore: add gitignore Apr 21 20:31:07 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r259b8c86e476 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/calling.py: ogsmd: add note where to handle data calls in calling.py Apr 21 21:37:12 hi Apr 21 21:37:30 i'm trying to connect to internet with my fr through my debian computer Apr 21 21:38:10 i have connected my fr to my computer, can ssh to it Apr 21 21:38:19 but can't ping google.com Apr 21 21:38:24 on my fr Apr 21 21:38:32 what do i need to set up please ? Apr 21 21:39:02 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking Apr 21 21:39:25 i don't get it with the wifi Apr 21 21:39:30 the wiki* Apr 21 21:40:02 my iptables configuration is null (i allow everything) Apr 21 21:42:13 then i echoed nameserver on /etc/resolv.conf Apr 21 21:42:40 but ping still doesn't work Apr 21 21:43:37 but this wiki says that iptables shouldn't be null Apr 21 21:43:55 you shoul setup ip forwarding Apr 21 21:44:04 *should* Apr 21 21:51:08 just don't get it... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#The_more_advanced_way done all the commands here, but with no success Apr 21 21:57:26 hmmmmmmmmmmm Apr 21 21:57:32 is it safe to update unstable SHR? Apr 21 21:57:36 or is it broking Apr 21 21:59:08 frankS2, safe Apr 21 21:59:08 no, you should flash testing Apr 21 21:59:19 just a little bug on dialer Apr 21 21:59:28 not showing numbers correctly or something Apr 21 21:59:36 but usable thought Apr 21 22:00:58 max_posedon: i have just flashed it....... Apr 21 22:02:28 testing is quite recent and quite good Apr 21 22:02:47 Collected errors: Apr 21 22:02:49 * Failed to download http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4/Packages.gz, error 404 Apr 21 22:02:54 anyone else get this one? Apr 21 22:03:03 yep, I get that Apr 21 22:03:11 everyone gets that Apr 21 22:03:17 lol Apr 21 22:03:17 So far it hasn't stopped me from installing anything I wanted Apr 21 22:03:24 why isnt it fixed yet? Apr 21 22:03:41 insufficient bitching, probably Apr 21 22:04:12 or 'cause you/me haven't fixed it Apr 21 22:15:47 i use shr Apr 21 22:15:56 i want to automodprobe loop, how to do that? Apr 21 22:17:22 is there any good way to download maps for tangogps? instead of making them autodownload Apr 21 22:17:48 yes Apr 21 22:17:56 use the right click on the current view Apr 21 22:18:06 it shows a download menu in the context menu Apr 21 22:18:20 very easy to use right from the view you have Apr 21 22:18:54 right click? Apr 21 22:18:57 i dont have a mouse Apr 21 22:20:03 frankS2: sorry i meant single click (finger down fast) Apr 21 22:20:07 and don't drag! Apr 21 22:20:14 or use your right finger ;-) Apr 21 22:21:44 download 6x zoom Apr 21 22:21:46 =) Apr 21 22:34:44 the way OSM saves maps kindoff sucks Apr 21 22:34:47 i mean .png files Apr 21 22:34:57 why not use a *image* Apr 21 22:35:54 qknight: add a file inside /etc/modutils, then update-modules Apr 21 22:36:07 frankS2: hmm? Apr 21 22:36:20 the maps in tangogps Apr 21 22:36:53 .png is an image? Apr 21 22:38:58 yes Apr 21 22:39:02 i mean like an image Apr 21 22:39:04 like .iso Apr 21 22:39:07 that way Apr 21 22:39:42 may be it is better to use navit Apr 21 22:40:12 at least his maps isn't so big, if you want full your country/europe/world Apr 21 22:47:44 Weiss: i try that Apr 21 22:47:45 thanks Apr 21 22:48:44 oh fuck Apr 21 22:48:56 now the screen is just white Apr 21 22:48:59 and nothing is happening Apr 21 22:49:00 GREAT Apr 21 22:51:15 frankS2: inside the TangoGPS border? that just means it's failing to download a tile Apr 21 22:51:20 no Apr 21 22:51:23 the entire phone lol Apr 21 22:51:33 that sounds like a WSoD :( Apr 21 22:53:00 now i SSHed in Apr 21 22:53:06 rm -rf all the files in /root Apr 21 22:53:09 and now its black Apr 21 22:53:10 lol Apr 21 23:14:16 mwester: mike westernize??? :D Apr 21 23:14:53 mwester: a kernel patch alias? Apr 21 23:16:29 frankS2: join #trolls Apr 21 23:16:59 DocScrutinizer: nobody there :( Apr 21 23:17:07 i can't figure out how to connect my freerunner to my computer... http://pastie.org/454022 dmesg shows that my fr is connected, but then lsusb shows nothing... any idea please ? Apr 21 23:18:39 [ 1407.860461] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 21 Apr 21 23:21:19 PierreN: here->> Apr 21 23:21:21 Apr 22 01:20:23 halley kernel: usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:03.0-2, CDC Ethernet Devic Apr 21 23:21:22 e, be:78:e8:54:6e:d5 Apr 21 23:21:41 seems your system is loading wrong driver Apr 21 23:22:23 hm..... PierreN you want connect to u-boot, or ssh? Apr 21 23:24:30 usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices Apr 21 23:24:32 usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:03.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, be:78:e8:54:6e:d5 Apr 21 23:24:34 usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1457, idProduct=5122 Apr 21 23:25:15 amd from dmesg it just look like neo powered off Apr 21 23:25:28 max_posedon: no difference, if not even device showing up Apr 21 23:25:50 1400.291257] cdc_acm 4-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device Apr 21 23:26:02 ttyACM0 not counting? Apr 21 23:26:08 cdc_acm!!! Apr 21 23:26:17 not cdc_ether Apr 21 23:26:44 doesn't cdc_ether enabled *only* after booting linux kernel + g_ether? Apr 21 23:27:01 yup, you're probably right Apr 21 23:28:14 (for me it looks like) http://pastebin.ca/1399009 Apr 21 23:28:31 I just think that PierreN's neo just poweroff-ed in 10sec Apr 21 23:28:59 and my neo do the same (poweroff in ~8sec, if nobody touch u-boot) Apr 21 23:30:30 yup for uboot it looks like that Apr 21 23:30:43 see my first comment: Apr 21 23:30:52 [ 1407.860461] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 21 Apr 21 23:32:39 PierreN, and don't look at lsusb, you won't find neo there, even after booted linux where you conntected via ssh. Apr 21 23:34:54 duh? Bus 002 Device 044: ID 1457:5122 First International Computer, Inc. OpenMoko Neo1973 kernel cdc_ether USB network Apr 21 23:35:52 * DocScrutinizer wonders how to and when finally kick out the FIC(C) here Apr 21 23:35:56 hm.... I don't see anything in lsusb, and have usb0 wake up Apr 21 23:36:23 quite strange Apr 21 23:36:42 where should it have gone? Apr 21 23:36:54 you asks me?!) Apr 21 23:36:59 yup Apr 21 23:37:13 you know, since usb network works, I don't care) Apr 21 23:37:19 as it's your lsusb that's ignoring the FR Apr 21 23:37:32 http://pastebin.ca/1399017 Apr 21 23:37:34 ok Apr 21 23:38:05 well i'm trying to come to a proper installation of OM2008.12 and u boot and kernel Apr 21 23:38:20 to see were does the problem come from Apr 21 23:38:36 PierreN: go for SHR instead, I'd recommend Apr 21 23:38:58 yeah Apr 21 23:39:10 well i got this error while installing shr Apr 21 23:39:36 which one? Apr 21 23:39:37 it's a uboot issue not related to rootfs Apr 21 23:39:49 shr is for the moment the best distro i tried... except this error Apr 21 23:39:57 you need to keep uboot alive Apr 21 23:40:18 by pressing AUX every now and then Apr 21 23:40:26 ow Apr 21 23:40:30 what error??? Apr 21 23:40:48 this error [ 1407.860461] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 21 Apr 21 23:40:57 isn't related to rootfs!"! Apr 21 23:40:59 you mean i can't connect to ssh when openmoko is up ? (have to stay at boot menu ?) Apr 21 23:41:07 ok Apr 21 23:42:01 what did you do to produce this error? did you connect to uboot or did you plug in the cable after booting to om2008.12? Apr 21 23:42:16 just : where to find a /recent/ and /good/ Kernel and u boot image then please ? Apr 21 23:42:27 SHR Apr 21 23:42:44 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/ Apr 21 23:43:03 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin ? Apr 21 23:43:14 yup Apr 21 23:43:25 403 forbidden access ? Apr 21 23:43:35 and [ ] shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 for rootfs Apr 21 23:43:44 nah, not possible Apr 21 23:44:11 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin >> 403 forbidden access Apr 21 23:44:23 tsss Apr 21 23:44:25 mompl Apr 21 23:44:46 ok :-) Apr 21 23:45:02 no any kernel Apr 21 23:45:04 ) Apr 21 23:45:21 no kernel once again :-[ Apr 21 23:45:31 AINULINDALE!!!!! Apr 21 23:45:46 WHERE'S THE KERNEL??? Apr 21 23:45:47 wrong channel) Apr 21 23:46:02 pff Apr 21 23:46:39 ow seems i pointed out a recurrent problem Apr 21 23:46:47 yup Apr 21 23:47:18 actually uImage can be taken from rootfs Apr 21 23:47:33 it live there in /boot Apr 21 23:47:38 eew, clumsy Apr 21 23:47:59 wait a minute Apr 21 23:48:15 well yeah with a proper kernel and jffs it works Apr 21 23:48:33 but does shr need a modified kernel ? Apr 21 23:58:02 PierreN: look people.openmoko.org/home/joerg/public_html/shr-testing Apr 21 23:58:28 wait another 60sec, it's still uploading Apr 21 23:58:53 ok, now Apr 22 00:00:14 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/shr-testing/ you meant ? Apr 22 00:00:23 people.openmoko.org/home/joerg/public_html/shr-testing not found ^^ Apr 22 00:00:45 ahh, sorry. yes of course Apr 22 00:01:12 ok so Apr 22 00:01:54 kernel http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/shr-testing/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin ; jffs2 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 ; u-boot : normal one (no qi) Apr 22 00:02:30 huh? Apr 22 00:02:59 that's been a question? Apr 22 00:03:17 well just an affirmation Apr 22 00:03:32 hmmmmmmmm im reading about the app "cellhunter" but i dont understand what it does.... Apr 22 00:03:37 anyone here care to explain for me? Apr 22 00:04:12 well I dunno if http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 is the one I downloaded a few days ago. preferrably use the one from my people drawer. uploading ATM Apr 22 00:04:45 frankS2: locating gsm-basestations Apr 22 00:05:00 and uploading to a central database Apr 22 00:05:03 ok Apr 22 00:05:55 DocScrutinizer: you're uploading a good one ? Apr 22 00:05:59 PierreN: ETA for shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 upload +1h Apr 22 00:06:09 ok thanks :-) Apr 22 00:06:23 will try the other one while waiting Apr 22 00:06:36 this is the kernel/rootfs combo that "works for me" here Apr 22 00:08:36 PierreN: version of Apr 17 Apr 22 00:08:41 ok Apr 22 00:31:20 FAQ: I upgraded/reflashed (or changed bootloaders) and now my network interface on usb0 is gone! Apr 22 00:31:45 Answer: See if your network interface is now eth1 or eth2 or eth3... Apr 22 00:33:37 DocScrutinizer: i tried your kernel and the jffs2 from the other website and now can ssh through it thanks Apr 22 00:33:52 although still can't connect to internet on the fr :s Apr 22 00:35:36 if you can ssh in, you also can ping out, as soon as you set up your desktop box correctly Apr 22 00:36:54 yeah but i don't get how to set up my desktop correctly :s Apr 22 00:37:41 also in shr if i decided to not to show apps in "desktop" at first startup how to then add them to desktop please ? Apr 22 01:01:41 good question Apr 22 01:02:28 /usr/share/applications as fas as i got it Apr 22 01:02:33 far as* Apr 22 01:02:37 ? Apr 22 01:30:12 which carriers support the openmoko? Apr 22 01:31:03 none Apr 22 01:31:08 lol Apr 22 01:31:11 any GSM carrier will work Apr 22 01:31:16 is it possible? Apr 22 01:31:24 is Verizon Gsm? Apr 22 01:31:40 there is a carriers page on the wiki - search on t-mobile on the wiki maybe Apr 22 01:31:44 dunno Apr 22 01:31:50 No Apr 22 01:31:55 do you use one? Apr 22 01:31:57 ok Apr 22 01:32:02 * shellevil is in UK Apr 22 01:32:19 are there any Linux phones for Verizon? Apr 22 01:32:36 None of which I'm aware. Apr 22 01:37:11 the G1 might have a one-up on openmoko Apr 22 01:44:52 just playing with shr and so... and wondering : is it possible to run a bash script when a gsm event occur (i mean launch ring.sh instead of ringing when i receive a call) please ? Apr 22 01:46:54 it's a question for mickey|zzZZzz. I already asked for it some time ago Apr 22 01:47:23 ok Apr 22 01:48:22 please open a ticket at trac.fso.org Apr 22 01:50:00 fso ? it's not up to shr developer ? Apr 22 01:51:38 (i'm just trying to get an idea about who is doing what in the -not so obvious- world of open moko and others...) Apr 22 02:14:33 nah, kicking off a ringtone *should* be managed by fso framework, not by any shr-app directly **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 22 02:59:57 2009