**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 22 02:59:57 2009 Apr 22 03:23:13 i'm trying to make the wifi work with shr Apr 22 03:23:16 but Apr 22 03:23:31 root@om-gta02 /usr/share/applications $ ifconfig eth0 Apr 22 03:23:31 ifconfig: eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found Apr 22 03:23:31 root@om-gta02 /usr/share/applications $ iwlist eth0 scan Apr 22 03:23:31 eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. Apr 22 03:23:37 hu ? Apr 22 03:26:35 did u reboot om 1 time? Apr 22 04:09:12 i'll kill a baby seal. i don't even care Apr 22 05:21:11 anyone got any ideas as to why i can't get my openmoko to wget something? Apr 22 05:21:16 new install Apr 22 05:21:24 obviously missed a step in networking Apr 22 05:21:24 can it ping? Apr 22 05:21:31 probably not Apr 22 05:21:35 try Apr 22 05:21:40 if it can ping, it can wget Apr 22 05:21:41 give me a minute Apr 22 05:21:44 no Apr 22 05:21:45 do it now Apr 22 05:21:47 damnit Apr 22 05:21:59 okay, so if it won't ping Apr 22 05:22:14 i did exactly what the wiki said Apr 22 05:22:25 can you log into it Apr 22 05:22:27 did it work before? and what distro? Apr 22 05:22:29 yea Apr 22 05:22:38 windows or linux Apr 22 05:22:42 linux Apr 22 05:22:47 phone distro Apr 22 05:22:56 2008.12 Apr 22 05:23:06 soon to be debian if it will actually wget stuff Apr 22 05:23:21 hrm... Apr 22 05:23:34 the problem is with the openmoko's networking. probably resolv.conf changed to a really strange cable company Apr 22 05:23:42 i mean...you can pretty much get networking working with 3 commands in linux... Apr 22 05:24:01 echo nameserver yada yada yada Apr 22 05:24:16 * rooly prefers to rely on the OpenDNS Apr 22 05:24:25 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 Apr 22 05:25:30 rooly: seem to remember seeing this in actual resolv.conf ? Apr 22 05:25:42 is it in there by default? Apr 22 05:25:44 thats new Apr 22 05:26:03 eh, my resolv.conf was naked Apr 22 05:26:13 * DocScrutinizer hooks up FR... Apr 22 05:26:18 echo "namesever 208.67.222.222" > /etc/resolv.conf Apr 22 05:26:21 so i put my resolv.conf from ubuntu Apr 22 05:26:35 now i can't log into it Apr 22 05:26:35 great Apr 22 05:27:20 muhahaha Apr 22 05:27:32 cat /etc/resolv.conf Apr 22 05:28:38 nameserver 127.0.0.1 \n nameserver 208.67.222.222 \n nameserver 208.67.222.220 \n nameserver 208.67.222.222 \n nameserver 208.67.222.220 \n nameserver 208.67.222.222 \n nameserver 208.67.222.220 \n Apr 22 05:29:31 DocScrutinizer: 208.67.222.220 is not right Apr 22 05:29:58 oh yes. Typo here Apr 22 05:30:21 anyway the multiple entries look quite odd Apr 22 05:30:26 definitely Apr 22 05:30:39 i solved it by simply having it as a init.d script Apr 22 05:30:45 also 127.0.0.1 is questionable Apr 22 05:31:03 no idea what SHR does Apr 22 05:31:22 just echoing opendns into resolv.conf at boot-time Apr 22 05:31:48 that'S about it. probably booted device 3 or 4 times now Apr 22 05:32:05 echo foo >>resolv.conf XD Apr 22 05:32:27 that's the default on shr by the way =P (or was 2 months ago) Apr 22 05:32:47 * DocScrutinizer booting Apr 22 05:34:18 I should too, and hope that it'll fix my usb connectivity. (not usb0 -> eth1 thing) Apr 22 05:34:24 takes.... Apr 22 05:34:42 forever to boot? Apr 22 05:34:51 * rooly finished DocScrutinizer sentence Apr 22 05:34:55 well at least some minutes Apr 22 05:35:09 lol Apr 22 05:35:21 here we are Apr 22 05:36:01 yup, another pair of lines ;D Apr 22 05:36:14 lol Apr 22 05:39:01 <3 network-manager *kill -9* Apr 22 05:43:26 rooly: forever booting....... Apr 22 05:59:15 yay, i had a bad coax earlier Apr 22 05:59:29 now all i have to do is figure out wtf is going on Apr 22 05:59:30 ? Apr 22 05:59:43 retard that hooked up the cable Apr 22 06:16:47 gah, something funky is happening with my usb networking Apr 22 06:57:52 godo morning Apr 22 07:37:18 freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * rb1cc8dd46693 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: Apr 22 07:37:18 freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Use proper base class when calling responseFromChannel Apr 22 07:37:18 freesmartphone.org: This fixes bug #390 and also fixes a potential problem in ListCalls. Apr 22 07:49:10 i can't ssh this thing Apr 22 07:52:12 i can't ping my openmoko Apr 22 07:52:31 i followed the instructions for usb networking Apr 22 07:52:33 to no avail Apr 22 07:52:44 i tried two different operating systems to no avail Apr 22 07:52:55 2008.12 and fso Apr 22 07:53:08 it's really getting on the nerves Apr 22 07:53:26 andrew2325, Is this your first time trying USB networking, or did you just flash new code and lose the ability to network to it? Apr 22 07:53:37 eh, kind of both Apr 22 07:53:51 i had it set up just fine. got a new microsd and now it's fucked Apr 22 07:54:13 andrew2325, What distribution are you running? Apr 22 07:54:20 fso right now Apr 22 07:54:28 tried 2008.12 too Apr 22 07:54:44 followed the USB networking guide Apr 22 07:54:49 no luck Apr 22 07:55:29 the computer has ubuntu on it Apr 22 07:55:57 andrew2325, I use Ubuntu too - but your problem doesn't ring a bell for me, I'm afraid. Apr 22 07:56:35 well, tell me how to bring up the usb networking interface Apr 22 07:56:40 maybe that will help Apr 22 07:57:09 morgen Apr 22 07:58:11 the networking box says unmanaged Apr 22 07:58:18 by the freerunner Apr 22 07:58:33 no wauy to edit the auto usb0 Apr 22 08:00:14 andrew2325, I'm happy to check anything on my working Ubuntu/Freerunner combo that might be helpful to your debug process, but I'm afraid I'm not enough of an expert to suggest what you should try next. Apr 22 08:05:37 a bit OT, but maybe someone knows... what is the correct way of scanning a SD card for bad blocks? Had it been a disk, I'd have used badblocks, but as the SD (probably) does wear-levelling, I'm not sure badblocks is helpful. Is there any other/better way? Apr 22 08:27:49 freesmartphone.org: 03Sebastian 07libeflvala * r228ec242bf44 10/vapi/evas.vapi: Apr 22 08:27:49 freesmartphone.org: [evas.vapi] add Image.size_get() binding Apr 22 08:27:49 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Spaeth Apr 22 10:07:35 my device will not start says "no space left on device" anybody knows what to do Apr 22 10:08:18 make some space? Apr 22 10:09:42 how do i do that Apr 22 10:11:03 rm. or just flash a new image ;) Apr 22 10:13:32 i have just flashed a new image thats what i think is so strange Apr 22 10:13:55 odd Apr 22 10:14:27 which image? Apr 22 10:14:50 2008.12 Apr 22 10:19:56 does anyone know the name of the package containing make Apr 22 10:19:58 on shr? Apr 22 10:30:21 heh so noone has ever used make on shr? Apr 22 10:30:57 most people seem to thiink building on the phone is silly Apr 22 10:31:32 well, i know quite a few people who have built their whole distro on the FR Apr 22 10:31:43 and they seem to have a great time :) Apr 22 10:32:01 anyways, i need to build because there is no package for the thing i need Apr 22 10:32:11 i wouldn't thing that's rare either Apr 22 10:35:08 pazante: qi or u-boot ? Apr 22 10:36:22 pazante: Try this, boot from NOR and select Boot. Does that work ? Apr 22 10:36:27 shellevil: having a non-x86 architecture forces to use on-phone building Apr 22 10:39:18 yeah, i agree Apr 22 10:39:30 except the people who have all the fancy shr build stuff setup Apr 22 10:40:35 yeah Apr 22 10:41:00 * Q-Master has a powerpc comp, so there's no build sdk for ppc Apr 22 10:41:02 just loading stuff on the phone, and hitting ./configure;make;make install is a lot easier in some ways Apr 22 10:41:23 and not ctually that slow undless you're builing whole distribuitons Apr 22 10:41:36 alephnull: boot from nor works Apr 22 10:41:38 so in what package is gmake on shr? :) Apr 22 10:42:08 pazante: You should fix your qi (or u-boot) then. Use the recommended version. Apr 22 10:42:20 Recommended for 2008.12, I mean. Apr 22 10:42:41 alephnull: ok thanks Apr 22 10:43:25 pazante: I'll wager you tried a Koolu automated install image ... Apr 22 10:44:23 alephnull: yes i did Apr 22 10:46:38 koolu qi is somehow "fixed" Apr 22 10:46:49 flash a normal qi Apr 22 10:47:41 hay guise?! Apr 22 10:51:36 hai guise, noone here uses shr? or noone here actually uses shr? ;) Apr 22 10:51:40 where is make? Apr 22 10:53:13 * Q-Master is not using shr coz there's no normal addressbook Apr 22 10:53:22 yes there is Apr 22 10:53:24 I am not using the SIM contacts Apr 22 10:53:54 so what distro are you using? Apr 22 10:54:14 I am now using android. Apr 22 10:55:08 ah Apr 22 10:55:18 * soul9 is really frostrated from not finding make on shr Apr 22 10:55:20 w T F Apr 22 10:55:59 i have two kind of odd things with my graphics on the openmoko using shr Apr 22 10:56:31 i have some sort of distortion in the right part of the screen (vanished after suspend) or reboot Apr 22 10:56:46 and the second would be flickering in vertical direction from time to time Apr 22 10:56:52 i never notices both at the same time yet Apr 22 10:57:17 and both problems seem to be not occuring often Apr 22 10:57:44 huh weird, never had that Apr 22 10:57:54 nobody else with that issues? Apr 22 10:58:29 i thought it was a broken circuit but as a software suspend seems to fix it, it seems more like a driver issue Apr 22 10:58:34 or power issue of some sort Apr 22 10:59:21 * Q-Master is not yet using shr Apr 22 10:59:40 Q-Master, what version of android are you using? Apr 22 10:59:56 panicking 14.6 Apr 22 11:00:00 cupcake Apr 22 11:00:20 oh, panicking is still working on android? Apr 22 11:00:25 hum Apr 22 11:02:37 anyway it is better than koolu one Apr 22 11:03:11 I don't want to flash it to NAND so I need a tarball with all the data to put on ext3 Apr 22 11:03:30 but koolu makes one partition in yaffs2 Apr 22 11:12:27 Q-Master: Can't hear worth a damn though. Apr 22 11:20:32 if i use the shr midori browser my OM often crashes Apr 22 11:23:10 does the openmoko have virtual memory? Apr 22 11:25:23 yes Apr 22 11:25:35 If you mean swap, it's not enabled Apr 22 11:25:40 you can do that if you want Apr 22 11:26:06 At the risk of sending your flash to an early grave. Apr 22 11:26:48 yeah - well - swap to Sd. Apr 22 11:26:50 Who cares. Apr 22 11:29:16 Indeed, sd is cheap and easily replaceable. And not _that_ quickly burned through in practice even, since you're not likely to do stuff that requires constant swapping - it'd be too much of a pain ;] Apr 22 11:30:15 oh then i usually exceed my memory which leads to a crash Apr 22 11:30:16 thanks Apr 22 12:09:43 hey Apr 22 12:34:34 hello Apr 22 12:34:49 i'm trying to change default keyboard in illume Apr 22 12:34:58 they say "Then switch keyboard from "None" to "Default" in Illume's preferences. " Apr 22 12:35:13 but where to find Illume's preferences ? Apr 22 12:42:40 freesmartphone.org: 03wessel 07framework * re2f734c4901b 10/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/gpsdevice.py: Apr 22 12:42:40 freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: Fix race in ogpsd/ousaged when using Gypsy Start() method Apr 22 12:42:40 freesmartphone.org: This addresses some of the issues listed in (FSO #251). Apr 22 12:48:12 PierreN: in the upper left corner, there is a nipper Apr 22 12:49:02 in the drop down menu Apr 22 13:00:45 a nipper ? Apr 22 13:03:34 PierreN: if you touch the uper part of the screen, the drop down menu comes down. Right? Apr 22 13:03:47 ah ok got it thanks Apr 22 13:25:31 any chance to get the headset working? Apr 22 13:25:50 hm... just plug in? Apr 22 13:26:01 but the mic? Apr 22 13:26:18 hm.. don't know Apr 22 13:26:24 should work Apr 22 15:20:11 so now if somebody would fix tangogps an guitar tuner we would have some impressive apps that would sell thie thing Apr 22 15:22:34 opkg.org needs to manage these apps in a different manner Apr 22 15:23:37 if theres 3 different os's, they need to be seperated, because not all things work with all os's Apr 22 15:55:33 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r540f58f64045 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py: ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] send +CLVL=255 after the antenna has been powered on, otherwise it gets reset. closes FSO Apr 22 15:58:18 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * re9eb7d50a12e 10/docs/ogsmd/ti_calypso/modem: docs: document +CFUN resetting +CLVL Apr 22 16:05:23 Hi, I'm on shr and the standard image comes with the mofi wifimanager, but it's not really working well for me, does anyone know a wifi manager that works better and that enables and disables the wifi when required ? Apr 22 16:31:15 anybody else get a random "stripe of death" when suspending? Apr 22 16:31:18 shr testing Apr 22 17:38:04 ahoi Apr 22 17:52:14 ndnihil 3 times before testing came out Apr 22 17:52:41 on unstable Apr 22 17:52:56 but now with testing im good Apr 22 17:53:05 very weird Apr 22 17:53:26 pandomness is ugly Apr 22 17:53:36 randomness Apr 22 17:54:41 I didn't have it at all until the other day Apr 22 17:54:49 and hadn't done anything to it recently Apr 22 17:54:53 just kinda popped up Apr 22 17:55:20 opkg? Apr 22 17:55:36 ? Apr 22 17:55:49 i havent used nand erase or anything though Apr 22 18:22:29 does someone has a MokoMakefile with qemu support? I would like to re-add it and try to fix it. this was a very nice and simple way of pre-seeing your new smartphone before you hold it in your hands. :) Apr 22 18:23:08 there is something in the next days in Essen right? Apr 22 18:23:55 I dunno, if you ask me Apr 22 18:24:30 and my ticket (Ticket 1000) doesn't go far enough. Apr 22 18:24:35 hm Apr 22 18:38:39 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r3abe69d44e17 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/channel.py: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] revert last change causing an endless loop in sending +EMGL=4 Apr 22 18:40:24 MokoMakefile is still broken: http://rafb.net/p/XX51kp93.html Apr 22 18:47:42 <|Marco|> who managed to muck up E again this time ? Apr 22 18:59:57 DocScrutinizer: thanks for the C&R you sent to lindi-, he had his GTA02 buzz fixed earlier and I got it fixed today, cool :) We still have 4R:s and 8 C:s if someone (in Finland) want's to try.. Apr 22 19:00:40 anyone in here has gotten a2dp working on latest shr-testing? Apr 22 19:00:56 i'm gettin an error Apr 22 19:01:03 [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_bluetooth.c:1570:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5) Apr 22 19:01:03 [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Input/output error Apr 22 19:01:27 any info on GTA02 on QEMU Emulator Apr 22 19:01:49 WhiteTiger: why do you want that? Apr 22 19:02:10 coz i dont have any Freerunner Apr 22 19:03:21 WhiteTiger: but what are you trying to do? Apr 22 19:03:57 i am trying to run GTA02 emulator on my Laptop Apr 22 19:04:06 WhiteTiger: but why? Apr 22 19:04:42 coz i dont have the physical GTA02 machine ..and i want to have a look and feel of GTA02 Apr 22 19:05:18 WhiteTiger: you want to test a distro that only works on gta02? Apr 22 19:05:40 WhiteTiger: since GTA02 does not have much look and feel, it's just 480x640 display Apr 22 19:06:14 i am able to run GTA01 on Qemu Emulator on my laptop Apr 22 19:06:26 but failed with GTA02 Apr 22 19:07:11 so just run gta01 Apr 22 19:07:19 Nobody ever wrote the gta02-specific emulator code. Apr 22 19:07:30 qemu is little bit broken for latest kernel Apr 22 19:07:52 and looks like qemu-neo1973 project is dead Apr 22 19:07:58 i am getting error while flashing the NANS Apr 22 19:08:01 NAND Apr 22 19:08:49 this is because may be gta02 and gta01 have different nand structure Apr 22 19:09:00 but if gta01 work, you should use it Apr 22 19:09:56 but i dont know how to ssh into tht GTA01 emulator..so i can only click on the current utilities Apr 22 19:10:34 hm... check the docs on openmoko.org Apr 22 19:33:50 hi, i get an error on upgrade: http://cxg.de/?id=gORPcJKWNSTqCuQ Apr 22 19:36:52 looks like "opkg remove openmoko-messages3 -force-depends" is working Apr 22 19:41:38 upgrade will usually not work Apr 22 19:41:43 you should generally reflash Apr 22 20:10:27 lord-carlos, actually just removing the shr-task-* or what ever it's name is which depends on openmoko-messages3, removing the openmoko-*3 apps and the installing the shr-task* package again is the correct thing to do. Apr 22 20:26:06 is it possible to partition cards in freerunner while in usb mass storage mode? Apr 22 20:34:33 got trouble using network over BT (XP laptop). Pairing is ok Apr 22 20:37:15 hcitool scan on phone says 11:(*6) Apr 22 20:37:32 on laptop it says it's 10:11:(*5) Apr 22 20:49:55 I don't seem to get any arp reply back to my request over BT... Apr 22 20:52:39 hey all Apr 22 20:53:14 pairing OK, Status connected Apr 22 20:56:40 Running wireshark on BT if. Now see arp requests from OM in wireshark. & arp replies back from laptop to OM Apr 22 21:06:12 badcloud:hey Apr 22 21:09:56 what's up nqe? Apr 22 21:18:54 just installed debian on my tiny MicroSD 512MB card, and i'm wondering how to use the 256MB of NAND flash offered by my fr ? ( Apr 22 21:20:41 hrmf. where do I find myself some "swt-gtk-3448"? Apr 22 21:21:58 i just want to run gvSIGmobile on debian on FR Apr 22 21:22:51 and i get an "UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3448 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, ..." Apr 22 22:11:28 anyone here who could help me how to use xfce4 please ? Apr 22 22:11:40 how to have a keyboard on the phone ? Apr 22 22:11:51 i tried to install matchbox Apr 22 22:12:03 add line to .xsession Apr 22 22:12:10 and then what should i do ? Apr 22 22:12:39 and also can i send call/text message with xfce ? Apr 22 22:12:56 i tried to install sephora also Apr 22 22:12:57 but Apr 22 22:13:25 i can't launch it since i don't have a keyboard :-( Apr 22 22:20:33 any help with xfce please ? Apr 22 22:20:35 man, I wish the flashing process for the neo wasn't so damn complicated Apr 22 22:21:03 KungFuJesus: where is the problem ? Apr 22 22:21:45 you gotta do everything from setting up usb networking, to setting up ssh autologins, to routing/nating so you can install mkfs.jffs2 Apr 22 22:22:01 I mean it's nothing I can't handle, but jeez Apr 22 22:22:33 err - no Apr 22 22:22:44 you run dfu-util -whatever imagename Apr 22 22:22:54 plus, the subnet is the same as my wired network. Of course my wireless lan is 192.168.1.0/24 Apr 22 22:23:02 shellevil: not to back up Apr 22 22:23:12 after pressing the right button when switching on the phone. Apr 22 22:23:30 what do you mean to back up Apr 22 22:23:33 meh, the flashing isn't too awful once you're in the NOR/NAND menu Apr 22 22:23:38 backing up the current firmware Apr 22 22:23:48 dfu-util can do that too Apr 22 22:24:03 ahh, then why the hell does the wiki take me through all that trouble? Apr 22 22:24:10 Or I think it can Apr 22 22:24:33 is it normal for wifi to not work at all with what comes from the factory? Apr 22 22:24:40 I just assumed so since it's about a year old Apr 22 22:40:55 ok this is interesting. How come "Wifi" disappeared from my settings menu after I flashed to OM.2008.12? Apr 22 22:45:15 anybody? Apr 22 22:47:50 no idea sorry Apr 22 22:48:32 don't use 2008.12, but this may help Apr 22 22:48:32 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2368844 Apr 22 22:52:06 so wait I have to run kustomizer against it. Does that remove my suspend functionality? Apr 22 23:22:56 hmm, I wonder why "wifi" option went away. When I ssh to it I can connect to my WEP network without a problem Apr 22 23:27:34 did u try shr testing lately? Apr 22 23:27:49 hey does anyone here have experience with kustomizer? Apr 22 23:27:58 a little Apr 22 23:28:59 is it normal for it to sit here: -> Adding opkg.org community repository & updating the databases -> Updating package databases Apr 22 23:29:19 no Apr 22 23:29:23 hmm Apr 22 23:29:31 how long Apr 22 23:30:04 wait 30 minuits Apr 22 23:31:55 it was about 15 minutes Apr 22 23:32:07 I manually just run opkg update and it gave me a lot of bad signatures Apr 22 23:34:57 is that normal? Apr 22 23:36:12 gah, I'll just walk through the bash script and look for stuff that I want to do Apr 22 23:36:37 I don't really mind the keyboard and interface for the om2008. Is the one that kustomizer tries to install that much better? Apr 22 23:46:52 hmmm Apr 22 23:47:46 KungFuJesus: concerning the signatures, i have the same problem Apr 22 23:48:31 concerning speed of your connection, Kustomizer script was sloooow when tried to launch it through wifi. you should try to use usb Apr 22 23:49:59 gah, then I have to build bind :-p Apr 22 23:51:15 does kustomizer make a gui work for wifi? Apr 22 23:52:54 the laptop it's connected to via USB is connected to the network wireless anyway Apr 22 23:57:06 KungFuJesus: which distro are you using ? Apr 22 23:57:52 2008.12 Apr 22 23:58:05 oh wow, a lot of config files it tries to fetch don't exist on their mirrors anymore Apr 22 23:58:46 oh I'm using gentoo PPC for the laptop if that's what you meant Apr 22 23:59:29 kurppa.fi doesn't seem to work, I get timeouts Apr 23 00:00:00 or the full urls don't seem to resolve, anyway Apr 23 00:17:09 yep, enlightenment segfaulted Apr 23 00:17:10 awesome Apr 23 00:18:02 I'm done with kustomizer, what a piece of garbage Apr 23 00:26:42 gah, I'm about to install SHR, anything I should know. The instructions are kinda crappy in the wiki Apr 23 00:27:21 do I need to grab the "modules" tarball? Or will everything already be in the kernel image? Apr 23 00:27:43 you don't need the modules tarball Apr 23 00:32:58 I'll have to mess with this later. *sigh* I wish these "super cool fixing scripts" that kustomizer provided actually worked Apr 23 00:38:21 mmontour: in your opinion, how is SHR testing? Apr 23 00:39:08 Dunno, I haven't looked at it recently. Apr 23 01:25:09 shr testing has far fewer bugs Apr 23 01:25:17 too bad Apr 23 01:25:30 i like fso-unstable Apr 23 01:25:57 Qte-improved works foe u rooly? Apr 23 01:26:02 nope Apr 23 01:26:12 what is it now Apr 23 01:26:25 haven't touched my FR in 2 weeks Apr 23 01:26:32 been rather otherwise occupied Apr 23 01:26:39 killer Apr 23 01:26:51 no, i am not homocidal Apr 23 01:27:08 im gardening Apr 23 01:34:43 9~why is it none of the packages I seem to find abundantly on the wiki ever actually install or even exist when I want them to? Apr 23 01:36:37 * Failed to download http://www.opkg.org/packages/minimo_0.02+cvs20070626-r1_armv4t.ipk, error 0 * Failed to download minimo. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? Apr 23 01:54:03 i found more of them to install on fso than anything else **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 23 02:59:57 2009