**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 29 02:59:57 2009 Apr 29 03:06:44 nothing has changed Apr 29 03:54:14 Psi_: The gta01 requires some non-trivial special code to handle that situation; the gta02 should do better. If it does not wake and shutdown, that would be a bug -- please open a ticket on the SHR trac on that. Apr 29 04:05:12 wow Apr 29 04:05:16 new shr testing is pretty nice Apr 29 04:27:29 theres a new one? Apr 29 04:30:17 i have todays unstable shr Apr 29 04:37:15 suspencion failure Apr 29 04:37:47 nope it suspended Apr 29 04:39:19 looks like a full minuite + to suspend Apr 29 04:39:43 5 seconds to come out Apr 29 04:43:33 Yep Apr 29 05:43:48 slaxxer: this is from the 22nd Apr 29 05:43:53 new to me at any rate Apr 29 06:20:52 mwester: re: wake on battery low comment before)m using gta01 Apr 29 06:21:02 m=i'm Apr 29 07:03:02 My neo freerunner doesn't last more than 5 hours on a full battery, I tried it today with no GPSr and no phone calls at all. Apr 29 07:04:08 Yashy: better keep it in suspend? Apr 29 07:13:29 lindi-: I believe it is in suspend most of the time, and I upgraded it (opkg update & opkg upgrade) yesterday before my test Apr 29 07:13:36 good morning Apr 29 07:26:23 Yashy: believe? Apr 29 07:26:32 Yashy: how much does it consume in suspend? Apr 29 07:44:24 raster: a 90sec fix for illume-bar please. Move "querty" for kbd invocation from right to center Apr 29 07:45:56 oops Apr 29 07:57:14 DocScrutinizer: it's not a 90sec fix Apr 29 07:57:27 its part of the shelf design (as are tyhe next/prev arrows) Apr 29 07:57:54 thus moving it to the middle will halve the width of the gadget area that the qwerty button is in Apr 29 07:58:00 so it has big implications Apr 29 07:58:04 oh, so position isn't easy to change? Apr 29 07:58:58 no Apr 29 07:59:06 not without affecting a bunch of other things Apr 29 07:59:09 i can move Apr 29 07:59:25 but the middle means the whole "area" for gaadgets at the top gets halved Apr 29 07:59:26 hmm there's just the wrench on left side Apr 29 07:59:35 yes but you can put anyting u like that Apr 29 07:59:47 my defaults also include a pager as i enabled virtual desktops Apr 29 07:59:52 (have 4 of them) Apr 29 08:00:07 ahh I see Apr 29 08:00:19 so not hard to move Apr 29 08:00:30 but i screw other things in the process Apr 29 08:00:45 insert a spacer? Apr 29 08:00:47 but the theme can pretty much determine where it is and what it looks like Apr 29 08:00:53 right to querty Apr 29 08:00:56 well its not the spacer Apr 29 08:01:05 its that you reduce the gagdte area so much Apr 29 08:02:57 well probably assigning kbd to AUX is a good workaround Apr 29 08:04:01 raster: another fix: close dropdown menu when hitting wrench, same as it's done for "querty" Apr 29 08:08:05 good morning Apr 29 08:08:39 raster: (querty) would it be difficult to add this next to left-arrow instead of dropdown (or somewhere else in non-dropdown bar, among the other gadgets there)? Apr 29 08:12:02 DocScrutinizer: thats not easy. wrench is a generic module Apr 29 08:12:06 it knows nothing of the top shelf Apr 29 08:12:13 and the shelf knows nothing of the actions of gadgets inside of it Apr 29 08:12:25 thus there is no path to propagate some "Close" Apr 29 08:12:42 and yes - it'd be possible to move it Apr 29 08:13:02 but i moved it because i kind of made the assumption that widget sets should more often than not request the kbd properly Apr 29 08:13:09 thus oinly sometimes will u need the manual control Apr 29 08:13:54 alas that's not true (yet?) Apr 29 08:13:57 freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * rc83092c97818 10/framework/subsystems/otimed/otimed.py: otimed: handle the case where no network code is present correctly Apr 29 08:17:57 DocScrutinizer: nope. so far the keyboard isn't really requested automatically by a lot of stuff Apr 29 08:18:08 I'd wish e.g. vala-terminal would pop up the keyboard Apr 29 08:18:17 DocScrutinizer: gtk should have it - install the matchbox kbd plugin Apr 29 08:18:27 elementary requests it too when an entry is focused Apr 29 08:18:37 and qt has patches already int he qtopia x11 port... Apr 29 08:18:42 so that covers most things Apr 29 08:18:52 as i said - it is covered in most cases. Apr 29 08:19:16 some its not - and thus its still there/. if shr or om isnt shipping the mb input plugin, not using the qt patches Apr 29 08:19:17 get a ison-property to define whether (and which) kbd to rise on app start? Apr 29 08:19:36 or somehow isnt shipping elementary in a working state... thats a matter not for a manual kbd button there Apr 29 08:19:57 it already uses properties Apr 29 08:20:05 the mb proto doesnt tho Apr 29 08:20:08 so its less reliable Apr 29 08:21:44 raster: wich TZ? unusual time for Sydney ;) Apr 29 08:22:30 nah, nevermind Apr 29 08:22:42 unusual time for *me* Apr 29 09:03:56 DHL is unable to deliver packages to a person who is absend (out to work e.g.) :( pulster wrote my address correctly, DHL didn't leave a notification card for me... Apr 29 09:04:14 hmmm, I hope they can deliver it to the "Packstation"... Apr 29 09:04:37 only if you are registered Apr 29 09:04:38 ;D Apr 29 09:04:49 i know this problem... Apr 29 09:07:07 I have registered with Packstation :) Apr 29 09:07:19 aah ok Apr 29 09:07:21 and pulster does now have my customer number Apr 29 09:07:32 it is for free, currently: www.packstation.de Apr 29 10:21:12 when SHR goes in "resting mode" screen turns black and i have to use to button on the side to activate it again, am i not able to retrieve calls? Apr 29 10:23:21 frankS2: that would be quite senseless, no? ;-) Apr 29 10:26:08 frankS2: actually SHR resumes flawlessly on inbound call/sms here Apr 29 10:28:47 ok Apr 29 10:28:48 cool Apr 29 10:49:57 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * rf4a56e556bf4 10/src/obj.vala: added ListInterfacesByObject Apr 29 10:49:58 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r60771ad6004d 10/src/obj.vala: introducing objectPathListToArray Apr 29 10:49:59 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r773e7727ef54 10/src/obj.vala: Now ListObjectPaths returns DBus.ObjectPath[] Apr 29 10:50:00 freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07dbus-hlid * r633bafd4a78e 10/src/obj.vala: ListObjectsByInterface returns DBus.ObjectPath Apr 29 11:31:09 frankS2: that's with SHR-testing as of 2009-04-16 Apr 29 11:31:52 I heard more recent SHR has some regressions wrt to resume Apr 29 11:32:38 no Apr 29 11:32:40 i tested it now Apr 29 11:32:41 it works Apr 29 11:32:44 unstable Apr 29 11:48:48 http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2009/04/26#20090426-openmoko_com - i don't get it? Apr 29 11:53:16 Wonka: OM using Gmail? Apr 29 11:54:16 .com Apr 29 11:54:33 not .org *sigh* ... means the lists and so on are not affected. Apr 29 12:00:45 correct, not .org Apr 29 12:11:48 afaik, quite many .coms use google mail... Apr 29 12:12:24 so i just wondered if there's more to it than "all openmoko.com mail is handled by google mail". Apr 29 12:13:56 Wonka: for me, no. It just simply switch mail from OM's server to google mail. Apr 29 12:14:39 if this was effectively "google bought om inc.", now that would have been news :) Apr 29 12:15:04 whats the most usable browser to install on my shr-testing phone atm Apr 29 12:15:28 Wonka: this seems not the case. Apr 29 12:17:38 If I wanted to cut costs at om.com, I'd switch to Google Apps too. Apr 29 12:18:42 rwhitby: well, the truth is....most of the hardware venders of om are located in Taiwan. Apr 29 12:19:14 rwhitby: and some of them have problem of setting their mail servers. Apr 29 12:19:46 rwhitby: so, the spam filiter block their mail quite often. Apr 29 12:22:16 rwhitby: this will be the official reason. Apr 29 12:22:42 rwhitby: not because cut costs Apr 29 12:22:55 fair enough Apr 29 12:22:56 Wonka: not google bought om. Apr 29 12:26:30 .oO( and even if - OM's products are still more open than Android ) Apr 29 12:27:12 Wonka: I have no comment on this. Apr 29 12:27:19 Wonka ;) Apr 29 12:27:26 * jc look at the NDA...... Apr 29 12:28:08 jc you signed an nda? *ducks* Apr 29 12:28:22 ;) Apr 29 12:28:32 .oO( sei nicht so roh zu ihm! *duck* ) Apr 29 12:29:42 *sigh* would be nice if the pkg-fso debian repo could get some packages updated... Apr 29 12:29:52 where abouts is the new message sound on shr? i cant seem to find it Apr 29 12:30:04 cellhunter works in SHR, but something regularly breaks on debian Apr 29 12:30:19 and I tend to blame the frameworkd Apr 29 12:30:48 pffff google Apr 29 12:31:09 * DocScrutinizer mumbles swearwords about google crap Apr 29 12:34:45 someone must know where it is, its not .wav .ogg or .mp3, ive searched for them Apr 29 12:35:26 not .flac either Apr 29 12:38:21 hm.. its a sid file Apr 29 12:38:26 never heard of that before Apr 29 12:41:25 Psi_: some amiga format Apr 29 12:45:55 * DocScrutinizer thinks it's quite amazing FR has a function to playback *.sid just for this one file, while desktops seem to need third party installs to even know now to handle it Apr 29 12:46:33 missing to see the rationale behind that Apr 29 12:47:01 Someone thought it'd be cool. Apr 29 12:47:31 what? arcanoids or *.sid? Apr 29 12:47:42 sid Apr 29 12:47:56 for arcanoids it's simple to convert it to wav or whatever Apr 29 12:48:52 * DocScrutinizer shrugs Apr 29 12:49:18 arcanoids is non-free :( Apr 29 12:50:41 DocScrutinizer: i suspect mickey ;-) http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/category/professional/iphone/ Apr 29 12:50:52 sure mickey Apr 29 12:51:24 hoe does enough good stuff to be able to do something crazy once in a while ;-) Apr 29 12:51:27 *he Apr 29 12:51:39 hehe Apr 29 12:51:57 I only know that arkaniod makes people think even the speaker is broken in my Fr :) Apr 29 12:53:54 lol Apr 29 12:54:28 attracts immediate attention of all people around, yeah Apr 29 12:55:02 lots of ahh's and OOoh's and even more eeewww's ;-) Apr 29 12:59:28 anyway I love it Apr 29 13:00:52 (you probably already guessed that from my knowledge abot how hard it is to playback on desktop PC ;) Apr 29 13:03:08 still I wonder what "non-free" might implicate here Apr 29 13:05:06 mickey is mentioning a "NTSC" button - no idea what that might mean except "never twice same color" - but sounds like mickey is aware of some issues here Apr 29 13:05:18 s/is/has/ Apr 29 13:05:19 DocScrutinizer meant: mickey has mentioning a "NTSC" button - no idea what that might mean except "never twice same color" - but sounds like mickey is aware of some issues here Apr 29 13:05:28 bah Apr 29 13:53:35 C64 playback speed was coupled to the TV system Apr 29 13:53:54 In america and some parts of australia, .sids played faster Apr 29 13:54:11 when i released the first sid player for iphone, these guys complained since we played all in PAL Apr 29 13:54:26 now you can chose based on where you grew up :) Apr 29 13:56:53 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * rd361ea5729d5 10/data/dbus-hlid.conf: make it accessable on paranoid dbus configurations Apr 29 13:56:54 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r543e50b28fcd 10/ChangeLog: yank ChangeLog Apr 29 13:56:55 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * ra91af4424897 10/ (Makefile.am configure.ac): release as 1.0.0 Apr 29 13:56:56 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r65207a9f64ce 10/configure.ac: post-release version bump Apr 29 13:57:14 busy bot.... Apr 29 13:57:58 mickeyl: will anything important change now you're no longer on the OE core team? Apr 29 13:59:30 i will not commit to OE for a while, but work on a tree in git.freesmartphone.org Apr 29 13:59:51 i will probably try to get some allys for a discussion whether a true fork makes sense or not Apr 29 14:00:28 ok, I wish you the best of luck Apr 29 14:00:31 thanks Apr 29 14:00:52 have you considered making a coup? :) Apr 29 14:01:44 well, in comparison to some well known tyran in OE it's not exactly my style mobbing someone else out of the project Apr 29 14:01:58 so i would have a hard time pursuing this way Apr 29 14:03:13 there's a whole bunch of scared away contributors though, perhaps i can revitalize some of those along the way Apr 29 14:04:43 i wonder how other foss communities handle such cases Apr 29 14:04:48 need to research a bit Apr 29 14:05:15 hope it all turns out for the best Apr 29 15:09:22 ~seen balrog-kun Apr 29 15:09:25 balrog-kun was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 10d 2h 42m 15s ago, saying: 'under freebsd'. Apr 29 15:30:37 * Kronk says hi Apr 29 15:55:06 hey guys trying to get to www.opkg.org but unable to ? Apr 29 15:55:19 Just wondering if this is a "local" problem or not ? Can anyone get to it ok ? Apr 29 16:15:58 Kronk: i can acces it Apr 29 16:20:58 hello there Apr 29 16:21:05 i had a problem with dbus Apr 29 16:21:10 root@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.opimd /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages GetFolderNames Apr 29 16:21:10 /org/freesmartphone/PIM/Messages: GetFolderNames failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied Apr 29 16:21:10 root@om-gta02 ~ $ Apr 29 16:21:21 why is access denied? Apr 29 16:21:51 welcome to the wonderful world of paranoid dbus. did you update to Jaunty? Apr 29 16:22:02 yes Apr 29 16:22:05 hehe Apr 29 16:22:07 i knew Apr 29 16:22:18 oh, are you mickey, the fso-developer? Apr 29 16:22:19 :D Apr 29 16:22:26 at your service Apr 29 16:22:36 gut, dann kann ich ja deutsch schreiben ;) Apr 29 16:22:48 ich wäre der vom openmoko-stand an der openexpo Apr 29 16:22:49 :) Apr 29 16:22:55 ta Zorkman I'll have a look must be this end ? Apr 29 16:23:00 please not, i'm sure these folks here have the same problesm Apr 29 16:23:07 ah, ok Apr 29 16:23:15 edit /etc/dbus-1/system.d/frameworkd.conf Apr 29 16:23:21 for every service you need to add some lines Apr 29 16:23:32 mmh, that's strange Apr 29 16:23:45 yesterday i deleted some messanges with mdbus Apr 29 16:23:49 with jaunty Apr 29 16:24:02 and i had the access Apr 29 16:24:09 today, i hadn't Apr 29 16:24:10 ok, opimd is somewhat special Apr 29 16:24:11 :s Apr 29 16:24:25 it's the only service where multiple object paths are served by one class Apr 29 16:24:33 it's also on retrivemessage and something like Apr 29 16:24:49 does ogsmd access work? Apr 29 16:25:00 yes Apr 29 16:25:08 just in console it doesn't Apr 29 16:25:23 hmm, fun, then i need to do some more tests Apr 29 16:25:28 it's something with the config Apr 29 16:25:31 and allowing paths Apr 29 16:25:44 ok.. Apr 29 16:25:53 try widening the allowed paths Apr 29 16:25:55 such as Apr 29 16:26:06 edit frameworkd.conf work's? Apr 29 16:26:06 Apr 29 16:26:10 yes Apr 29 16:26:17 good, thx.. :) Apr 29 16:26:26 i'm not sure whether this is enough, but give it a try Apr 29 16:26:32 i can do more tests later tonite here Apr 29 16:30:58 Out of interest has anyone in here played around with some of the latest SHR images ? Apr 29 16:31:33 i'm on latest shr-testing Apr 29 16:31:56 cool Apr 29 16:32:22 I've just loaded the 27Apr Unstable image and I'm having difficulty setting my timezone correctly ? Apr 29 16:32:48 trying to symlink but it keeps dumping back to UTC think it might be a permissions issue ? Apr 29 16:32:54 Kronk: have you read http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks#Time ? Apr 29 16:33:18 don't forget to edit /etc/timezone Apr 29 16:33:22 ta :) Apr 29 16:33:24 will do Apr 29 16:33:24 it worked for me Apr 29 17:07:15 hmm,for me the TZ madness fixed itself after a few days/gps fixes/calls whatever Apr 29 17:09:36 for the first one or two gps fixes it was off by 1h DST "correcting" systime to the wrong value. now it works tho I didn't do anything for it Apr 29 17:10:23 probably the month-off-by-one issue Apr 29 17:13:09 Anyone tried Gorshplayer? Apr 29 18:44:26 freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r94097b1f553b 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: Apr 29 18:44:26 freesmartphone.org: [#417 - Part 1] Generate enumerations Apr 29 18:44:26 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes Apr 29 19:07:58 hey guys, I forget, I know I've recovered from this before, but how do you recover from a "really dead battery" on a 1973> Apr 29 19:08:06 (gta01bv4) Apr 29 19:08:43 Quinn_Storm: use some Nokia battery, plug usb cable to neo, boot, suspend, quickly replace battery (with plugged usb), resume Apr 29 19:09:54 don't have another battery Apr 29 19:11:12 also, just curious, is anyone out there looking for a gta01bv4? I'd be happy to trade up to a gta02 if possible (can't afford to just buy one myself) Apr 29 19:12:27 Quinn_Storm: don't suuppose you've got a lab PSU? Apr 29 19:12:41 unfortunately no, I'm just an average all-purpose geek Apr 29 19:12:50 I know I've recovered from this before Apr 29 19:12:55 its recovered from being down for months uncharged Apr 29 19:13:18 Quinn_Storm, i have a broken screen gta02 i might be willing to send you Apr 29 19:13:49 you could likely use the screen from your 01 for it? Apr 29 19:13:51 I coldn't do the swap unfortunately unless the gta01 is an identical subassembly but I doubt it Apr 29 19:14:00 * Quinn_Storm can't solder to save her life Apr 29 19:14:46 Quinn_Storm: on gta01: unplug usb, remove battery, wait 10 seconds, replace battery, plug in USB, wait an hour or so without pressing any buttons (I think this still works) Apr 29 19:14:56 ok, gonna do that Apr 29 19:16:22 i had to buy extra batteries to recover my "really, really dead" 1973 Apr 29 19:16:35 freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r97e4640317a7 10/src/vala-dbus-binding-tool.vala: Apr 29 19:16:35 freesmartphone.org: Index Vala names per DBus names prior to generation Apr 29 19:16:35 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes Apr 29 19:17:58 * Quinn_Storm wonders, doesn't know enough about the display setup, isn't sure it'd be possible to swap a gta01 display into a gta02 Apr 29 19:18:22 * Quinn_Storm would have to disassemble the 01 and hasn't ever done that Apr 29 19:20:10 Quinn_Storm: yes, IIRC. Apr 29 19:21:09 ah interesting Apr 29 19:21:19 well, I'd be intrigued to give it a try Apr 29 19:21:25 it looks like its double-sided tape on the gta01 Apr 29 19:21:34 I can't find a good teardown of the gta02 though Apr 29 19:21:44 oh, is it US or worldwide? (the broken gta02) Apr 29 19:23:38 aaargh. Apr 29 19:24:12 US Apr 29 19:24:20 Quinn_Storm: maybe ... january, I had a discussion I think with PaulFertser on how to upgrade screen on here. Apr 29 19:24:20 how did one convince SHR not to suspend? Apr 29 19:24:25 cool, perfect Apr 29 19:24:43 SpeedEvil: oh? interesting, if this is a no-solder project I can probably do it Apr 29 19:24:44 setting suspend timeout to -1 in settings app is not enough... Apr 29 19:24:58 * Quinn_Storm is imagining just some ribbon-edge connectors and 2s tape Apr 29 19:25:11 Quinn_Storm: IIRC yes, it was pretty much that. Apr 29 19:25:59 SpeedEvil: you mean how to dismount LCM? Everything i know about it is poorly paraphrased DocScrutinizer's words. Apr 29 19:26:38 PaulFertser: I probably meant him, yes. Apr 29 19:26:54 basically I want to swap an LCM from a gta01 into a gta02 (assuming I can get that gta02) Apr 29 19:26:55 sorry - somethimes I blank on names Apr 29 19:27:12 As I understand it, it's possible, but I'd want to check back on logs Apr 29 19:28:04 * Quinn_Storm isn't sure where to look Apr 29 19:28:57 Quinn_Storm: I think it's possible. Just ask DocScrutinizer for more detailed instructions. The important part is to heat the whole device to 50-60 so the glue won't be so hard and you'll be able to dismount LCM. Apr 29 19:29:48 interesting, so..hair-dryer or something, held at careful distance? Apr 29 19:30:57 oven maybe Apr 29 19:31:13 ok cool, I can probably do that, if I can get ahold of that gta02, daMaestro Apr 29 19:31:17 Do however check that the thermostat functions. Apr 29 19:31:18 and yeah the wiki mentions blow-dryer Apr 29 19:31:23 * SpeedEvil lost a laptop that way. Apr 29 19:31:31 lol ovens don't work down to 50-60 usually, do they? Apr 29 19:31:33 Well - the case. Apr 29 19:31:34 Quinn_Storm, i'll work on finding my hardware Apr 29 19:31:36 Quinn_Storm: yes Apr 29 19:31:41 Quinn_Storm: rising bread Apr 29 19:31:42 Quinn_Storm, it's been stuck into the abyss Apr 29 19:31:47 ok cool Apr 29 19:32:02 * Quinn_Storm waits for her gta01 to trickle-charge Apr 29 19:32:19 what's so great about the gta01 display that would motivate a swap? Apr 29 19:32:26 Quinn_Storm, you doing development or just an end-user? Apr 29 19:32:27 ndnihil: not broken Apr 29 19:32:34 that'll do it Apr 29 19:32:51 ndnihil: broken screen gta02 -> gta01 screen - > working gta02 Apr 29 19:33:00 thought I was missing out on a nifty hardware upgrade or something :) Apr 29 19:33:33 daMaestro: I'd like to do some development, haven't been into it much with my non-us gta01 that really doesn't help me much here in the us Apr 29 19:34:21 dibs on the broken carcass? Apr 29 19:34:23 :) Apr 29 19:34:44 do a finger friendly python editor exist? lol Apr 29 19:35:06 finger-friendly editors are in general a bit tough Apr 29 19:35:31 finger friendly editors come with separate keyboards Apr 29 19:35:39 lol Apr 29 19:37:08 * Quinn_Storm is excited, will have to go out and get a tmo prepaid sim for it again when she gets the gta02 up and running Apr 29 19:37:13 assuming the LCM is all that's broken Apr 29 19:37:16 and its swappable Apr 29 19:38:02 /Wi21 Apr 29 20:05:04 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * r1fc7cc860af3 10/src/opimd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Apr 29 20:05:04 freesmartphone.org: opimd: implement opimd_contact_delete Apr 29 20:05:04 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Apr 29 20:17:00 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r354ad103c589 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_contacts.py: opimd: add Delete() method in Contacts domain Apr 29 20:20:40 where's DAVE? Apr 29 20:24:55 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07framework * r9ff9e0140bee 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_contacts.py: opimd: add support for deleting contacts in SQLite backend. Worked by Heinervdm too. Apr 29 20:41:29 anyone know how to clear out the sim card from the command line? sms app keeps crashing and saying it's full Apr 29 20:44:47 toggles_w: Are you asking how to enter AT commands from teh command line, or which command to enter? Apr 29 20:47:11 toggles_w: you can use mdbus -s to find out the commands to interact with SIM. It's in the ogsmd bus. Apr 29 20:55:16 * Quinn_Storm hates her internet connection Apr 29 20:57:32 * SpeedEvil too. Apr 29 20:57:52 95% of the time it syncs at 2550kbps. Apr 29 20:58:13 So of course, it throttles the speed at 250K, as it occasionally syncs at that too. Apr 29 21:16:34 Anyone around to help me get bluetooth calls working in SHR-unstable? Apr 29 21:38:43 freesmartphone.org: 03smartphone-userland 07cornucopia * r7521e9c1df8a 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/Makefile.am: Apr 29 21:38:43 freesmartphone.org: libfsotransport: move fsotransport.h Apr 29 21:38:43 freesmartphone.org: commit b26bc573a325ddca66fcd1788047322b6611cab6 Apr 29 21:38:43 freesmartphone.org: Author: Heiko Stuebner Apr 29 21:38:43 freesmartphone.org: Date: Tue Apr 28 20:07:33 2009 +0200 Apr 29 21:38:46 freesmartphone.org: Placement of fsotransport.h according to the similiar change in Apr 29 21:38:48 freesmartphone.org: libgsm0710mux, so libgsm0710mux can find it when compiling Apr 29 21:42:10 freesmartphone.org: 03dos 07framework * r0a3b7cd7663d 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_contacts.py: opimd: SQLite_Contacts: set _backend_entry_id in add_entry too. Fixes problem with deleting new contacts. Apr 29 22:00:08 Can SOMEONE tell me what it is about the statefile that says to use bluetooth instead of the builtin speakers?? Apr 29 22:02:05 Quinn_Storm: PaulFertser is right about the quotings of my instructions Apr 29 22:04:16 Quinn_Storm: open connector, disconnect FlatPlasticConnector, warm up device by storing it at a warm place (<80°C!), **slowly** lift the LCM from PCB to make double sided sticky to come off Apr 29 22:04:54 Quinn_Storm: slowly might mean: takes 10..15minutes of applying constant but gentle force Apr 29 22:07:39 Quinn_Storm: aah, forgot: 1.: remove steel-fabric sticky from can and connector (~10mm) Apr 29 22:08:27 caaarefully! ;-) Apr 29 22:08:39 not to break FPC Apr 29 22:12:07 btw my oven here starts at 50° and has a fairly detailed dial until 100°. I'd always prefer it to hairdryer Apr 29 22:13:57 Digital_Pioneer: please can you rephrase your question?! Apr 29 22:14:27 DocScrutinizer: How do I make the stupid thing send audio to the bluetooth device instead of the builtin speakers? Apr 29 22:14:39 I'm not "SOMEONE" but maybe I can answer as soon as I understand the Q Apr 29 22:14:39 (And record audio from it, too, for that matter) Apr 29 22:15:14 send from *where*? Apr 29 22:15:27 GSM calls Apr 29 22:16:48 the oint with GSM_BT.state is you are using the wolfson mixer ADC and DAC to cnvert the analog audio from / to modem to/from digital domain, then send it via PCM interface to BT-module Apr 29 22:16:58 Point even Apr 29 22:17:51 OK, so why doesn't it work? :P Apr 29 22:18:19 you make it send/receive audio from BT-PCM to GSM-analog by `alsacontrol restore -f bt-gsm.state Apr 29 22:18:33 DocScrutinizer: which bt headset? Apr 29 22:18:36 Digital_Pioneer: ^ Apr 29 22:18:54 lindi-: Plantronics Voyager 855 Apr 29 22:19:12 Digital_Pioneer: does it work with your PC? Apr 29 22:19:18 Yes. Apr 29 22:19:37 Digital_Pioneer: good, then you have a chance. my headset does not work with my PC either :) Apr 29 22:19:52 Hmm. Apr 29 22:59:33 Digital_Pioneer: you also noticed you have to execute a small helper program in addition to aslactl. to set sampling rate and format of mixer ADC **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 30 02:59:57 2009