**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 17 02:59:57 2009
May 17 03:37:09 <mccoyn> Does anyone know why Multiverse isn't working?
May 17 03:37:36 <mccoyn> I keep trying to install software, and the packages can't find dependancies.
May 17 03:50:34 <mccoyn> Whenever I try to run opkg update I get an error that http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/Packages.gz failed to download, error 404.  Has this be moved somewhere else?
May 17 04:08:17 <slaxxer> WHICH OS U HAVE?
May 17 04:08:27 <slaxxer> sorry
May 17 04:09:57 * mwester yanks out slaxxer's keyboard's caps-lock key. :p
May 17 04:10:11 <slaxxer> yea
May 17 04:29:15 <slaxxer> libelementary0     this lib is neded for intone?'
May 17 04:29:28 <slaxxer> shr unstable
May 17 04:34:01 <fale> I was analyzing the situation, and it seems that all three main distro (SHR, Om, QtEI) are based on FSO and that the differences are: SHR: X11 + GTK, Om: X11 + Qt, QtEI: no X11 + Qt
May 17 04:34:05 <fale> is this true?
May 17 04:58:10 <dvarnes> fale: it was true earlier last year.  Now SHR & OM.2009 are both FSO based with X11 + e (mostly, some GTK in SHR)
May 17 04:58:53 <fale> dvarnes: you mean that Om does not rely any more on Qt?
May 17 04:59:24 <dvarnes> fale: not for the current (OM.2009) release, no 
May 17 04:59:30 <fale> :o
May 17 05:00:27 <fale> dvarnes: than what's the difference between SHR and Om? I mean, why they don't merge/share big chunks of code?
May 17 05:00:51 <dvarnes> fale: they do 
May 17 05:01:07 <dvarnes> fale: but they also have quite different objectives
May 17 05:01:37 <fale> oh, ok... than, tecnically speaking, there are mainly two distro: QtEI and SHR+Om... that's interesting
May 17 05:01:56 <slaxxer> http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/
May 17 05:02:38 <dvarnes> fale: SHR = {community driven, full smartphone distro}; Om.2009 = {phone that just works} 
May 17 05:03:11 <dvarnes> fale: there are others .. debian, hackable1 .. more
May 17 05:03:13 * fale tryed SHR ~2 days ago and had enormous trouble with SMS and Calls
May 17 05:03:17 <slaxxer> i had a lud bzz with paroli latest
May 17 05:03:35 <slaxxer> neovento is next
May 17 05:09:22 <slaxxer> latest shr-unstable makes calls
May 17 05:09:36 <slaxxer> with the letest.bin
May 17 05:09:59 <slaxxer> installed a few apps     an they worked
May 17 05:10:24 <slaxxer> an phone log worked this time
May 17 05:11:17 <slaxxer> neovento is a little big
May 17 05:11:41 <slaxxer> a lot big
May 17 08:14:41 <badcloud> just saw Sean Moss-Pultz: Open for Opportunities on youtube
May 17 08:14:51 <badcloud> what an amazing mind
May 17 09:35:04 <PBeck> ahoi
May 17 11:23:59 <Marcello9001> hi
May 17 11:28:04 <Marcello9001> hi
May 17 11:28:28 <Marcello9001> I have a problem to transfer files from FR to PC
May 17 11:29:05 <Marcello9001> if transfer files fron PC --> FR all works ok but not the reverse
May 17 11:29:44 <lindi-> Marcello9001: what command did you run?
May 17 11:29:45 <Marcello9001> the FR sai conection refused when I try to send a file to the PC
May 17 11:30:01 <Marcello9001> mkfs.jffs2 -d /var/volatile/tmp/rootfs -e 128 --pad --no-cleanmarkers -x lzo | ssh root@192.168.0.200 'cat > rootfs.jffs2'
May 17 11:30:14 <jonkristian> Marcello9001: yeah, you need to run sshd
May 17 11:30:20 <jonkristian> on your puter
May 17 11:30:27 <Marcello9001> the same with    ssh root@192.168.0.200
May 17 11:30:41 <Marcello9001> from FR ---> PC
May 17 11:31:16 <Marcello9001> I need make a backup of files from FR ---> PC
May 17 11:31:40 <dns53> tar and ssh
May 17 11:31:45 <Marcello9001> oh!        sshd ?
May 17 11:31:55 <lindi-> Marcello9001: you can't "ssh foo" unless "foo" runs sshd
May 17 11:32:10 <dns53> no you pipe tar -zcf - |ssh something let me check
May 17 11:32:46 <Marcello9001> the ping from fr to pc works well
May 17 11:32:57 <dns53> i think it was something like:     tar -zcvf|ssh user@host "cat > filename.tar.gz"
May 17 11:34:14 <dns53> so basically get tar to pipe your whole file system to the input of ssh, then get a cat command on the remote server to pump that into a file
May 17 11:34:15 <SpeedEvil> ssh freerunner tar -czpf - / |tar -xzvf -
May 17 11:34:23 <SpeedEvil> from host
May 17 11:34:52 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: I find rsync the easiest way
May 17 11:35:08 <Marcello9001> so .. I need transfer .... rootfs.jffs2
May 17 11:35:22 <SpeedEvil> rsync is good too
May 17 11:35:36 <dns53> look at what neotool does
May 17 11:35:49 <lindi-> dns53: i think it requires downtime
May 17 11:35:54 <lindi-> dns53: right?
May 17 11:36:11 <dns53> no neotool uses ssh to pipe to a file on your computer
May 17 11:36:41 <dns53> backing up your kernel requrires downtime but you can probably just download that yourself
May 17 11:36:50 <lindi-> dns53: why does it require downtime?
May 17 11:37:35 <dns53> not for createing a jffs or tar backup of your root, only backing up your kernel i believe
May 17 11:38:19 <lindi-> dns53: any idea why it uses mkfs.jffs2?
May 17 11:38:28 <lindi-> dns53: why not just cat /dev/mtdblock6?
May 17 11:38:39 <dns53> because it can
May 17 11:38:42 <dns53> i have no idea
May 17 11:40:23 <dns53> oh yeah, you can't image a running file system unless you do something like lvm snapshots
May 17 11:41:10 <dns53> you will be reading stuff from the middle while stuff is being modified at the start and end so you may only get part of a file
May 17 11:41:41 * SpeedEvil passes dns53 a sticker bearing the words 'Massive filesystem corruption'.
May 17 11:41:57 <dns53> basically
May 17 13:59:20 <Bish> is there any image with working wlan/wpasupport?
May 17 13:59:40 <PaulFertser> Bish: yes, both OM2009 and SHR.
May 17 13:59:57 <Bish> with wpa? great
May 17 14:00:02 <Bish> what is 2009 exactly?
May 17 14:00:17 <PaulFertser> Bish: FSO + Paroli
May 17 14:00:22 <Bish> sounds great
May 17 14:00:24 <Bish> what is paroli?
May 17 14:00:30 <PaulFertser> Bish: read the wiki ;)
May 17 14:00:47 <Bish> i stopped when openmoko inc stopped existing
May 17 14:00:57 <PaulFertser> Bish: it didn't
May 17 14:01:15 <Bish> well but .. ?
May 17 14:01:21 <Bish> Openmoko puts further phone models on ice,
May 17 14:02:30 <Bish> i was so freaking sad about that -_-
May 17 14:10:25 <Bish> PaulFertser: which one would u suggest?
May 17 14:13:45 <PaulFertser> Bish: well, it looks like you're "end-user" so OM2009.
May 17 14:16:38 <Bish> nope im not a end user
May 17 14:17:00 <Bish> i will see 4 myself
May 17 14:17:12 <PaulFertser> Bish: arne anka?
May 17 14:18:57 <Bish> no 
May 17 14:19:08 <Bish> this name is not nazi enough
May 17 14:30:00 <vininim> wurp2: updated and upgraded shr-unstable here, no visible problems so far
May 17 14:37:44 <jpwdsm> when booting Om2009, I'm getting messages that say "in: /var/{log,tmp,run,cache,lock}: no space left on device" then errors about failing to set owner or mode on those directories or subdirectories
May 17 14:37:57 <jpwdsm> then it just sits at a log in prompt
May 17 14:40:54 <jpwdsm> any clues what this is about and/or how to get past it?
May 17 14:57:33 <DocScrutinizer> jpwdsm: clean up and free some space on your "disk"?
May 17 14:58:16 <DocScrutinizer> jpwdsm: 'df -h'; 'du -h /'
May 17 14:58:55 <jpwdsm> DocScrutinizer: I can't SSH to it;  when I plug in USB, nothing happens on the phone and dmesg shows nothing about connecting a USB device
May 17 14:59:05 <jpwdsm> let me try booting without my SD card though
May 17 15:00:17 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * rc76734979b32 10/po/Makefile.in.in: 
May 17 15:00:17 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: Fix intl files
May 17 15:00:17 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr>
May 17 15:00:35 * DocScrutinizer sighs and curses this "we don't need users, as we're root" idiot policy 
May 17 15:00:43 <badcloud> jpwdsm, what did you do with your device beforehand?
May 17 15:01:06 <jpwdsm> badcloud: I was using Android, which had some bugs, so I was flashing it back to Om2009
May 17 15:01:30 <badcloud> so you just finished flashing the image?
May 17 15:01:36 <jpwdsm> the newest betas gave me these errors, so I flashed with some old betas I had that I knew worked
May 17 15:01:40 <DocScrutinizer> reserving 5% of disk blocks for root doesn't help much, when it's root who's spamming on the device :-(((
May 17 15:01:43 <jpwdsm> which still threw these
May 17 15:01:58 <vininim> jpwdsm: try reflasing qi
May 17 15:02:06 <jpwdsm> vininim: ok
May 17 15:02:08 <vininim> worked for me
May 17 15:05:27 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03ptitjes 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r1125aa2ee5e5 10/COPYING: 
May 17 15:05:27 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: Fix licence
May 17 15:05:27 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Didier 'Ptitjes <ptitjes@free.fr>
May 17 15:10:02 <jpwdsm> huzzah, it booted
May 17 15:10:19 <jpwdsm> thanks for the help vininim DocScrutinizer and badcloud
May 17 15:10:33 <badcloud> great
May 17 15:10:42 <badcloud> I also thought qi would help
May 17 15:10:50 <DocScrutinizer> jpwdsm: welcome. though I only ranted
May 17 15:11:05 <badcloud> that's true, Doc did most of the yappin
May 17 15:11:15 <badcloud> ;)
May 17 15:11:19 <DocScrutinizer> what's the  nature of this issue then?
May 17 15:11:44 <DocScrutinizer> uBoot mounting readonly?
May 17 15:11:59 <DocScrutinizer> or old Qi doing this?
May 17 15:12:52 <DocScrutinizer> seems strange to me. New Qi flashing might rarely create more space on disk
May 17 15:15:48 <badcloud> I broke my u-boot a while back without realizing what did it
May 17 15:17:37 <DocScrutinizer> fine, but all this "missing space on disk" errors are from kernel using his own fs-driver. I simply don't get it how bootloader might create this class of errors
May 17 15:18:13 <johnsu01> hm, what am I doing wrong, flashing kernel with dfu-util -a kernel, but trying to boot it keeps saying it can't find the kernel image
May 17 15:18:29 <johnsu01> trying the kernels from http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/
May 17 15:19:09 <DocScrutinizer> hehe, kicks-ass then ;-)
May 17 15:19:21 <johnsu01> :)
May 17 15:19:31 <johnsu01> the file shows ups as a uImage-v14.bin: u-boot/PPCBoot image
May 17 15:19:49 <dns53> is the kernel 2mb or bigger?
May 17 15:19:59 <johnsu01> it's 2MB
May 17 15:20:14 <johnsu01> 2.1 actually, yeah
May 17 15:20:26 <DocScrutinizer> PPCBoot ? o.O
May 17 15:20:41 <dns53> you may need to install qi or modify your uboot to allow for bigger images
May 17 15:20:48 <johnsu01> I've updated u-boot with -a u-boot
May 17 15:21:28 <DocScrutinizer> johnsu01: seems for uBoot U need to fix env
May 17 15:21:40 <DocScrutinizer> update isn't enough
May 17 15:21:41 <dns53> updated the config, the default only allows for smaller kernels
May 17 15:22:05 <vininim> koolu's qi possible do something related to yaml and badblocks
May 17 15:22:27 <DocScrutinizer> what??
May 17 15:22:40 <vininim> yafs
May 17 15:23:13 <vininim> uh.. yaffs. 
May 17 15:27:10 <johnsu01> well, qi finds the kernel I guess but is just stuck in a boot loop
May 17 15:27:18 <johnsu01> keeps rebooting
May 17 15:28:00 <badcloud> how do I change color depth in illume?
May 17 15:28:09 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03dos 07framework * r8af8ff0b212b 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_contacts.py: opimd: Contacts: remove unnecesary variable
May 17 15:28:09 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03dos 07framework * r52deccf9bcbf 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py: opimd: Messages: implement merging Messages from different backends and duplicates
May 17 15:28:26 <vininim> johnsu01: depending on the android image your only hope is using a sdcard method
May 17 15:28:42 <vininim> *for instalation
May 17 15:30:57 <DocScrutinizer> duh,#@android%§¥
May 17 15:32:59 * DocScrutinizer shrugs. "android - wtf is android?!"
May 17 15:34:12 <DocScrutinizer> maybe tamiflu might cure android. We should start a research project
May 17 15:36:24 <badcloud> tamiflu?
May 17 15:36:58 <badcloud> who's Tami and why does she have the flu?
May 17 15:38:12 <Bish> Trying to associate with 00:30:f1:d1:93:a0 (SSID='WLAN' freq=2462 MHz)
May 17 15:38:13 <Bish> Authentication with 00:30:f1:d1:93:a0 timed out.
May 17 15:38:17 <Bish> does wpa still not work 4 shr image?
May 17 15:40:03 <Bish> PaulFertser: 
May 17 15:41:25 <DocScrutinizer> hehe, probably PaulFertser should earn a title of "OM-ex-employee h.c."
May 17 15:41:58 <Bish> i asked if some image support wpa -_- but still there's none
May 17 15:42:03 <Bish> Trying to associate with 00:30:f1:d1:93:a0 (SSID='WLAN' freq=2462 MHz)
May 17 15:42:04 <Bish> Authentication with 00:30:f1:d1:93:a0 timed out.
May 17 15:42:06 <Bish> i hate thsi
May 17 15:42:52 <DocScrutinizer> Bish: in a bitching mood? ;-)
May 17 15:43:28 <DocScrutinizer> btw you seem to repeat yourself
May 17 15:43:41 <Bish> .. yeah im sick of this
May 17 15:43:53 <badcloud> breathe, man
May 17 15:43:54 <Bish> im waiting for a image that supports wpa, i mean it already worked
May 17 15:44:30 <badcloud> you'll reach a point where your device will do what you want it to do
May 17 15:44:37 <badcloud> or at least most of what you want
May 17 15:44:51 <badcloud> we've all been through numerous images, bugs, etc
May 17 15:44:54 <DocScrutinizer> not by bitchin
May 17 15:45:02 <badcloud> also true
May 17 15:45:14 <Bish> but this did work in the first place
May 17 15:45:16 <badcloud> research, post bugs
May 17 15:45:23 <Bish> and since ~1000 updates wpa stoped working
May 17 15:45:28 <Bish> and none seems to use wpa @ home
May 17 15:45:29 <badcloud> then research, find out what made the change
May 17 15:45:56 <badcloud> don't you have a fallback image/kernel?
May 17 15:45:57 <DocScrutinizer> and gain merits by publishing the fix
May 17 15:46:17 <badcloud> if you have the knowledge and ability, Doc
May 17 15:46:23 <badcloud> :)
May 17 15:46:31 <Bish> no i dont, but all these images does not support wpa_supplicant
May 17 15:46:37 <Bish> aren't u guys using wpa
May 17 15:46:43 <badcloud> I'm using wep
May 17 15:46:54 <DocScrutinizer> no wifi here
May 17 15:46:55 <Bish> then u could even stop using any encryption
May 17 15:46:57 <badcloud> but then again, I don't use much wifi on mine
May 17 15:46:59 <DocScrutinizer> got gprs
May 17 15:47:07 <badcloud> I know it's not that secure
May 17 15:47:21 <badcloud> but I'm in a pretty innocent corner of town
May 17 15:47:37 <badcloud> why not just use masquerading via usb?
May 17 15:47:39 <Bish> "not-secure" is a bit to soft :P
May 17 15:47:48 <badcloud> true
May 17 15:47:48 <Bish> badcloud: because i hate iptables
May 17 15:48:18 <Bish> and why the f*** does it have wifi without wpa support i mean it worked already -_- yeah im repeating
May 17 15:48:19 <badcloud> oh well, sometimes you gotta make sacrifices
May 17 15:48:34 <badcloud> have you flashed a clean image?
May 17 15:48:54 <badcloud> check google, maybe someone ran into something similar
May 17 15:49:01 <DocScrutinizer> nah, wtf... my wlan is open to everybody. my network traffic is secure for wifi as it is for internet
May 17 15:49:15 <Bish> yes i flashed the "testing-shr-image"
May 17 15:49:37 <badcloud> same kernel too?
May 17 15:50:48 <badcloud> (as before)
May 17 15:51:00 <Bish> no , its the testing-shr-image
May 17 15:53:05 <DocScrutinizer> also I don't cover my postcards in an envelope on my way to put it into the public mailbox
May 17 15:54:50 <DocScrutinizer> and I can ssh from ne of my wlan-connected machines to any other quite same way I can do from arbitrary IP-addresses out in real internet
May 17 16:01:03 <Bert_2> Hi, is it possible to backup all my SIM contact using a simple command on shr-unstable ?
May 17 16:09:42 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03dos 07framework * r08d9e12fc0d3 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py: opimd: SIM_Messages_FSO: combine spliten messages
May 17 16:10:01 <Bert_2> ??
May 17 16:10:30 <Bert_2> CIA-53: are you a bot ?
May 17 16:14:42 <Bish> no .. he just likes prentending to be one
May 17 16:14:53 <Bish> and making colored msges about what happens in python scripts
May 17 16:15:54 <Bert_2> Bish: is he posting every change in certain python scripts ?
May 17 16:17:29 <Bish> Bert_2: i think hes posting even evry change
May 17 16:17:49 <Bert_2> k
May 17 16:34:38 <DocScrutinizer> Bert_2: CIA is commit notification bot
May 17 16:36:49 <Defiant-> DocScrutinizer: really? We would've never guessed that :P
May 17 16:37:15 <DocScrutinizer> Defiant-: :-(
May 17 16:38:45 <DocScrutinizer> Defiant-: you're for sure no first-level helpdesk guy, we never had guessed without your comment
May 17 16:39:39 * DocScrutinizer just trying hard to be polite to everybody. Sometimes fail :-/
May 17 16:40:29 * DocScrutinizer away now finally. nuff
May 17 16:40:44 <Defiant-> DocScrutinizer: right I'm not and thaats better for everyone ;)
May 17 16:40:46 <PaulFertser> Bish: i can tell you, wpa works with most APs. And yes, some AP has problems with newer kernels. Even more had that with .24 old ones.
May 17 16:42:00 <Bish> yeah but mine worked then xD
May 17 16:42:50 <DocScrutinizer> Bish: so use kismet and find the diffs!
May 17 16:43:03 <Bish> dont have any wifi adapter :D
May 17 16:43:12 <Bish> and fr oes not have monitor mode
May 17 16:43:32 <DocScrutinizer> yup, correct. a pitty
May 17 16:43:44 <PaulFertser> Bish: FR has problems connecting to some APs, so it's a known bug basically. You say that it worked with .24 kernels, well, it's quite possible. But the way wifi was implemented in .24 had even more problems and incompatibilities...
May 17 16:44:11 <Bish> that sux, and that there will be no gta03 and following sux ,too
May 17 16:44:25 <DocScrutinizer> anyway a kismet or even wireshark dump is the only way for you to push on your issue getting fixed
May 17 16:44:33 <Bish> so i will have to use android .. as a enduser
May 17 16:44:41 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: (honorary degree) lol :)
May 17 16:45:08 <PaulFertser> Bish: which kernel version does android use (that works with your AP)?
May 17 16:45:27 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: hehe
May 17 16:45:35 <SpeedEvil> there is no 03 design going on now officially
May 17 16:45:37 <Bish> .. that not want i wanted to say.. i didnt use android
May 17 16:45:45 <SpeedEvil> this doesn't quite mean there will be no gta03
May 17 16:45:47 <Bish> i mean i will have to use android in future.. no gta, no openmoko
May 17 16:46:18 <PaulFertser> Bish: why not buy a device that is hackable enough to get rid of wm or android?
May 17 16:47:14 <Bish> meaning, buying a .. dont know samsung, to put openmoko on it :P?
May 17 16:47:28 <Bish> (there will be an android samsung)
May 17 16:47:40 <PaulFertser> Bish: something like that, yes
May 17 16:47:46 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: seems Bish is in a bitching mood anyway, and mixing different domains like android-the-OS with gta-the-hw
May 17 16:48:24 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: i see but i've just woken up so i don't have an energy to emotionally react to that, so that's ok :)
May 17 16:48:45 <Bish> DocScrutinizer: no i dont, its just .. there will be no official phone that supports openmoko without hacks
May 17 16:49:07 <Bish> so there will be no performant graphicchip or something
May 17 16:50:13 * SpeedEvil rofls.
May 17 16:50:30 <DocScrutinizer> PaulFertser: me feeling kinda starting feel kinda pissed. So no comment on "FR *is* an official phone supporting OM without hacks" and simply off # now
May 17 16:50:32 <Bish> SpeedEvil: tell me why youre rofling?
May 17 16:50:54 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: see you later than :)
May 17 16:50:55 <Bish> DocScrutinizer: from my perspective this is not "supporting" the "hw"
May 17 16:51:03 <PaulFertser> Bish: from ours it is
May 17 16:51:06 <SpeedEvil> Bish: performant GPU
May 17 16:51:31 <Bish> .. does it matter?
May 17 17:10:09 <wurp2> vininim: Thanks... I think I'm going to hold out for shr-testing
May 17 17:16:39 <Martix> hello
May 17 17:17:23 <siksika> ciao a tutti
May 17 17:17:46 <Zorkman> ciao
May 17 17:17:50 <Martix> i have problem with MokoMakeFile, in do_fetch
May 17 17:18:59 <Martix> raise MalformedUrl(url), but URL should be right
May 17 17:33:05 <badcloud1> anyone know if there's a gsm fix for OM 2008.9? for the no gsm after x hours bug 
May 17 17:34:09 <rhkfin> badcloud1: have you updgraded your GSM firmware? That fixes something but not that problem, I guess.. I think there's not a final solution forthat yet.
May 17 17:41:44 <DocScrutinizer> badcloud1: CND on SHR. No gsm-fw issue probably then
May 17 17:42:04 <badcloud1> cnd, doc?
May 17 17:42:08 <badcloud1> yes, rhkfin
May 17 17:42:11 <DocScrutinizer> btw: OM2008.9?? wtf?!
May 17 17:42:26 <DocScrutinizer> CanNotDuplicate
May 17 17:43:29 <DocScrutinizer> om2008.9 is considered FUBAR and deprecated afaik
May 17 17:43:39 <badcloud1> FUBAR?
May 17 17:43:43 <PaulFertser> badcloud1: yep,
May 17 17:43:51 <PaulFertser> badcloud1: fucked up beyond all repair.
May 17 17:43:52 <badcloud1> forgive me lack of acronym knowledge
May 17 17:43:53 <PaulFertser> badcloud1: FUCKED
May 17 17:43:54 <badcloud1> ah
May 17 17:43:55 <DocScrutinizer> ~wtf fubar
May 17 17:43:56 <badcloud1> got it
May 17 17:43:57 <apt> FUBAR: fucked up beyond all recognition 
May 17 17:44:00 <badcloud1> *my
May 17 17:44:11 <PaulFertser> badcloud1: many consider it was dead-born even
May 17 17:44:25 <badcloud1> I just feel like putting two extra primary part on my sd
May 17 17:44:31 <badcloud1> one for gentoo, the other for ?
May 17 17:44:35 <badcloud1> just for the hell of it
May 17 17:44:38 <DocScrutinizer>  s/recognition/repair/
May 17 17:44:55 <badcloud1> thanks for the warning
May 17 17:45:28 <badcloud1> so far shr is cutting it
May 17 17:45:38 <badcloud1> even though there isn't much softw
May 17 17:46:07 <badcloud1> and hackable is annoying me with the invisible '+#' contacts
May 17 17:46:48 <badcloud1> debian's install script is running into broken zhone dep
May 17 17:46:51 <badcloud1> *deps
May 17 17:47:05 <badcloud1> and I'm not going near android for ethical reasons
May 17 17:47:20 <badcloud1> stop me if this is boring anybody
May 17 17:48:01 <badcloud> well, I have to go anyhoo
May 17 17:48:20 <badcloud> has anybody seen the movie Face/Off?
May 17 17:50:34 <badcloud> well anyway, how much does Sean remind you of the character Pollux Troy (badguy's brother)?
May 17 19:30:06 <cyberalex> hi, there is a way to change the default profile at boot on shr?
May 17 19:30:39 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rd188328e6a58 10/framework/ (patterns/dbuscache.py subsystems/oeventsd/leds_actions.py): 
May 17 19:30:39 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: dbuscachepy: use lazy lookup by default. NOTE: This means you can never assume that a dbus object is actually
May 17 19:30:39 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: present by the time you want to call it. You need to be prepared for errors.
May 17 19:30:40 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r8eee6529de1e 10/framework/subsystems/ (ophoned/gsm.py ophoned/ophoned.py otimed/otimed.py): ophoned|otimed: use dbuscache
May 17 19:30:43 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r471e7a6ab6ee 10/framework/subsystems/ousaged/generic.py: ousaged: trigger idlenotifier's busy state after waking up. Closes FSO #410
May 17 19:38:26 <CIA-53> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r706b56ccfc95 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py: ogsmd: channel.py: relaunch processing the queue after handling a timeout. Closes FSO #414.
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