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Jun 02 03:40:30 <linuxxr> that new piano program can make some great ringtones i bet
Jun 02 03:46:47 <SpeedEvil> You mean the piano-forte? Never catch on.
Jun 02 03:47:50 <linuxxr> no Boxan
Jun 02 03:48:09 <linuxxr> Boxar
Jun 02 03:48:25 <linuxxr> very nice program
Jun 02 04:07:18 <linuxxr> its at opkg.org
Jun 02 05:03:20 <Psi> hm.. anyone know what digkey do when you inform them they have shipped the wrong item?
Jun 02 05:03:32 <Psi> ops, sorry, wrong channel :)
Jun 02 05:10:27 <Blu3> psi, just send them an email about the part and include your order number for reference
Jun 02 05:11:20 <Psi> yeah, ill have to
Jun 02 05:11:29 <Psi> i just to want to have to pay shipping to send wrong item back
Jun 02 05:11:42 <Psi> ive found other errors also that are more serious
Jun 02 05:11:55 <Psi> do=dont
Jun 02 05:12:02 <Psi> err to=dont
Jun 02 07:21:05 <methril> morning
Jun 02 07:22:27 <Blu3> when a user clicks into a textview buffer, and the cursor gets positioned, what event fires -after- the cursor position is calculated internally?
Jun 02 07:22:34 <Blu3> g'mornign methril
Jun 02 07:22:47 <methril> hi Blu3 still up?
Jun 02 07:23:04 <Blu3> yes.  trying to solve this problem
Jun 02 07:23:10 <Blu3> (pygtk)
Jun 02 08:15:29 <CIA-53> openmoko: 03alvieboy * r5081 10/trunk/gta02-core/components/STATUS: Update review list
Jun 02 11:07:34 <ClausReheis> hi all
Jun 02 11:12:11 <ClausReheis> I have a problem with updating my om 2008.12!After flashing my freerunner I connect it to the internet, ssh in it and try to update it via "opkg update && opkg upgrade", but there are no updates available!The Image is from Dez 08!There must be some updates and buxfixes... Can someone tell me someting about this?
Jun 02 11:13:37 <max_posedon> You should use Om2009
Jun 02 11:13:40 <max_posedon> or SHR
Jun 02 11:13:48 <max_posedon> Om2008 not supported any more
Jun 02 11:15:22 <ClausReheis> max_posedon: really?I saw on the wiki that from 2009 are just beta images available... Do I have to install Qi then if I would like to try out 2009???
Jun 02 11:15:59 <max_posedon> no, qi just suggested I think
Jun 02 11:16:14 <max_posedon> as for me - I use SHR, and don't know about Om2009 much
Jun 02 11:18:24 <ClausReheis> max_posedon:thx ! I use shr too as it is the only thing what made a working phone of my freerunner;)
Jun 02 12:21:41 <Marcello9001> huston we have a problem :-)
Jun 02 14:11:20 <ClausReheis> max_posedon: Om2009 is intended to be the new distro; it is not a simple follow-on from Om 2008.12 Update. It is still very much in development and by no means ready for production use
Jun 02 14:11:26 <ClausReheis> says the wiki
Jun 02 14:11:38 <max_posedon> so?
Jun 02 14:11:41 <vegyraupe|tbd> ClausReheis: that is a bit outdated
Jun 02 14:11:42 <ClausReheis> and 2008.12 should still be supported
Jun 02 14:11:53 <max_posedon> shoudl)
Jun 02 14:11:59 <max_posedon> but isn't
Jun 02 14:12:01 <ClausReheis> hmmm
Jun 02 14:12:07 <ClausReheis> what to do now?
Jun 02 14:12:18 <max_posedon> I said it twice may be
Jun 02 14:12:27 <max_posedon> 1. install Om2009, 2. install SHR
Jun 02 14:12:54 <ClausReheis> is the phone useable with 2009?
Jun 02 14:13:24 <max_posedon> as I know yes - but I remind you, that I'm shr-user.
Jun 02 14:13:33 <max_posedon> I have kinda dejavu...
Jun 02 14:14:16 <ClausReheis> max_posedon: thx again
Jun 02 14:14:25 <max_posedon> np
Jun 02 14:19:28 <bumbl> ClausReheis: last time i checked (before i sent my neo in for buzz fixin) om2009 had all the important core functionality
Jun 02 14:19:57 <bumbl> and worked even better than shr because the monolithic application allows it to launch the core components faster
Jun 02 14:21:21 <ClausReheis> ok!
Jun 02 14:21:40 <ClausReheis> bumbl: buzz fixing?
Jun 02 14:22:04 <max_posedon> yep, all neo freerunners had hardware bug
Jun 02 14:22:10 <max_posedon> which should be fixed
Jun 02 14:22:37 <max_posedon> Didn't you know about this problem?
Jun 02 14:22:43 <ClausReheis> max_posedon
Jun 02 14:23:00 <ClausReheis> max_posedon: hmm, I had an echo Problem but that was fixed by shr
Jun 02 14:23:46 <bumbl> ClausReheis: yes - when you turn up the volume there is a buzz under certain circumstances
Jun 02 14:24:00 <bumbl> (bad signal quality,...)
Jun 02 14:24:11 <ClausReheis> bumbl; where are you from? 
Jun 02 14:24:16 <bumbl> Austria
Jun 02 14:24:30 <ClausReheis> cool! I am from Tirol
Jun 02 14:24:45 <bumbl> as you could see from my IP
Jun 02 14:24:53 <ClausReheis> did you buy it at the german reseller?
Jun 02 14:24:58 * bumbl waves from Upper Austria
Jun 02 14:24:59 <bumbl> yes
Jun 02 14:25:09 <ClausReheis> and did they fix it for free?
Jun 02 14:28:02 <bumbl> no [i bought it at pulster.de; handheld-linux (golden delicious) provides a europe wide rework; costs: 3€ for the rework (which is sponsored by openmoko to get the price down) + shipping costs from and to munich
Jun 02 14:28:38 <bumbl>  -> for your effort openmoko gives you a free battery]
Jun 02 14:28:43 <bumbl> not the fairest deal
Jun 02 14:28:52 <bumbl> but the easiest available
Jun 02 14:28:54 <bumbl> atm
Jun 02 14:30:09 <bumbl> (+ pulster offered me a 10€ discount on future orders for my effort)
Jun 02 14:31:07 <bumbl> ClausReheis: conclusion: if you don't experience a buzz and can live with low volume there is no need to fix anything
Jun 02 14:31:48 <bumbl> if you want it to get fixed - join a buzz fix party/find someone with good solderskills/send it in
Jun 02 16:34:05 <thrashold> Which ophonekitd should I use? The one from shr.git or the one from ophonekitd.git?
Jun 02 17:16:46 <StOrM_NW> i m trying to set the channel of the wifi device, but i can only get it with channel 10
Jun 02 17:16:59 <StOrM_NW> i m using it in ad-hoc mode
Jun 02 17:17:57 <StOrM_NW> i saw in the dmesg the message channel hint set to 2417 that i guess its the frequency of the  channel 2, but the channel is still 10 or 2.457 Ghz
Jun 02 17:18:32 <StOrM_NW> i am using release 2008.12
Jun 02 17:18:50 <StOrM_NW> at device om-gta02
Jun 02 19:30:45 <takeiteasy> hi folks, do you guys have an idea to fix a GSM request error when starting zhone on debian ?
Jun 02 19:31:14 <takeiteasy> any help welcome
Jun 02 19:31:40 <thrashold> How do I make frameworkd to issue `AT%SLEEP=2' for me?
Jun 02 20:03:43 <DocScrutinizer> set mode to "never" in /etc/frameworkfoo.cfg
Jun 02 20:05:30 <DocScrutinizer> see my recent mail reply to "#1024 A  possible fix"
Jun 02 20:08:01 <DocScrutinizer> "" Re: Bug #1024 (oscillating re-camping), a possible solution. "" [hardware] ->-> ti_calypso_deep_sleep = adaptive; values are: never, adaptive (default), always;   /etc/frameworkd.conf 
Jun 02 20:09:48 <DocScrutinizer> then change to
Jun 02 20:09:50 <DocScrutinizer>   ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never
Jun 02 20:09:51 <DocScrutinizer> which sets calypso to AT%SEEP=2
Jun 02 20:47:43 <DocScrutinizer> .
Jun 02 20:47:55 <Blu3> +
Jun 02 20:49:01 <DocScrutinizer> !
Jun 02 20:49:10 <badcloud_> ?
Jun 02 20:50:30 <DocScrutinizer> hehe, needed some wakeup triggers for FR irc, to test time to suspend
Jun 02 20:50:46 <Blu3> heh
Jun 02 20:51:23 <badcloud> :P
Jun 02 20:51:26 <badcloud> sneaky
Jun 02 20:51:44 <DocScrutinizer> for now I'm at 40% charge eaten for 5h of online
Jun 02 20:51:56 <Blu3> =]
Jun 02 20:52:19 <DocScrutinizer> just tuned shutdown time down to 2sec for dim
Jun 02 20:53:53 <DocScrutinizer> but I'm curious about high cpu usage for entering/leaving suspend might eat more power than 1psec of standby with low backlight
Jun 02 20:54:12 <DocScrutinizer> 10sec even
Jun 02 20:54:16 <Blu3> indeed
Jun 02 21:02:41 <DocScrutinizer> at least a few hundered suspend/resume cycles for last 5h worked flawlessly (same as they did the last 5 weeks, with SHR testing). So this at least is considered stable for now :->
Jun 02 21:03:56 <DocScrutinizer> (last 5 weeks) well there wasn't autosuspend after resume, which now works as well
Jun 02 22:05:07 <Sargun> That was a fun ride.
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