**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 25 02:59:56 2009
Aug 25 04:21:56 <Undrwater> what program is called when one hits Dial [SHR]?
Aug 25 04:31:05 <ndnihil> grep -i exec /usr/share/applications/0000-shr-dialer.desktop
Aug 25 04:33:02 <Undrwater> ndnihil: that brings up the dialer itself...when i hit the "call" button, what does it call?
Aug 25 04:37:05 <ndnihil> it sends some commands to the GSM modem, probably by way of dbus
Aug 25 04:39:58 <Undrwater> hrm...i'm trying to insert the command to bring up bluetooth somewhere in the middle of that process :P
Aug 25 07:11:49 <methril|work> morning
Aug 25 07:14:16 <tomcatek> morning
Aug 25 10:34:38 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r25a5d2bc070b 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py: opimd: Don't create comp_value when not needed
Aug 25 10:34:39 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r088bfce7ea11 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py: opimd: move making comp_value into function
Aug 25 10:34:40 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * rc9955fe84800 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_generic.py: opimd: handle comp_value correctly
Aug 25 10:34:41 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * rbebd0575c799 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO pimd_generic.py): opimd: handle correctly blank fields
Aug 25 10:34:43 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * ra14065414079 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/backend_manager.py: 
Aug 25 10:34:46 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: opimd: backend manager: add GetInitialized method
Aug 25 10:34:48 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: ATM it always returns False, but it'll change when backends learns how to use it.
Aug 25 10:34:50 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * rf0c2195243e6 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO docs/TODO docs/api_overview.txt): opimd: little updates in docs directory
Aug 25 10:34:53 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r1b36e740965c 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (TODO docs/TODO docs/api_overview.txt): Merge branch 'master' into dos/opimd-tracking
Aug 25 12:01:00 <CIA-52> openmoko: 03werner * r5538 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/ecn/ecn0016.txt: 
Aug 25 12:01:00 <CIA-52> openmoko: - ecn0016: We don't need nACCEL_CS (suggested by Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
Aug 25 12:01:00 <CIA-52> openmoko:  <ccc94453@vip.cybercity.dk>)
Aug 25 13:03:06 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libgsm0710mux * rdf01e9e81775 10/gsm0710mux/ (consts.vala manager.vala multiplexer.vala): change errors to Vala standard format
Aug 25 13:03:45 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * r636c7dd86819 10/src/server.vala: catch up with new error names in libgsm0710mux
Aug 25 13:06:37 <Tschaka> How would i add the given properties from http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.html;hb=HEAD#SendMessage to this line: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.SendMessage 'u"NUMBER"' 'u"MESSAGE"' '{}' ? i am playing around with concetanated messages. but either what i am trying, i'm always getting ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set argumen
Aug 25 13:06:37 <Tschaka> ts (u'NUMBER', u'test', '{status-report-request=1}') according to signature u'ssa{sv}': <type 'exceptions.TypeError'>: string indices must be integers, not str
Aug 25 13:06:53 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-abyss * ra4f65077c3fa 10/src/server.vala: catch session errors from libgsm0710mux
Aug 25 13:07:33 <Tschaka> i was trying to set statusreports enabled, just for testing here.
Aug 25 13:54:09 <naeg> heyho, i installed latest shr testing. how can i lock the screen? aux does nothing
Aug 25 13:54:49 <Etu> naeg: Try SHR-Unstable
Aug 25 13:58:05 <naeg> Etu: i installed knowingly testing, because i just use it temporary
Aug 25 13:58:37 <Etu> naeg: I used testing for a while, unstable is better...
Aug 25 13:59:37 <naeg> Etu: i haven't installed shr for a while, do i have to configure/modify a lot of things until i can use it as a phone?
Aug 25 14:00:13 <Etu> naeg: Not if you installing Unstable, I have been using it for a while now...
Aug 25 14:00:30 <naeg> ok, then i will try that, thanks Etu 
Aug 25 14:02:15 <Ainulindale> naeg: one thing you have to do if you want good contacts to number matching is to modify /etc/libphone-utils.conf 
Aug 25 14:02:23 <Ainulindale> (IIRC the name)
Aug 25 14:02:29 <Ainulindale> that's about it
Aug 25 14:05:13 <naeg> Ainulindale: what exactly do i have to do?
Aug 25 14:05:36 <naeg> btw Ainulindale what about the shr phone apps? didn't you plan to write own?
Aug 25 14:19:23 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: (/etc/phone-utils.conf) you'll probably understand easily
Aug 25 14:19:35 <DocScrutinizer> where are you living?
Aug 25 14:20:47 <naeg> DocScrutinizer: do you mean me?
Aug 25 14:20:55 <DocScrutinizer> yup
Aug 25 14:21:00 <naeg> austria, why?
Aug 25 14:21:26 <DocScrutinizer> because the settings in phone-utils.conf depend on that
Aug 25 14:22:17 <naeg> rly? is my country supported?
Aug 25 14:23:02 <DocScrutinizer> well, Austria has 00 for international prefix, and afaik 0 for national prefix
Aug 25 14:23:06 <naeg> this is because of the internation number, isn't it? but i can save all numbers without the international
Aug 25 14:23:16 <DocScrutinizer> countrycode is err... 44?
Aug 25 14:23:18 <naeg> its 0043
Aug 25 14:23:32 <DocScrutinizer> noooo, 00 is prefix
Aug 25 14:23:41 <DocScrutinizer> 43 is countycode
Aug 25 14:23:46 <naeg> ok
Aug 25 14:23:47 <Ainulindale> naeg: we did
Aug 25 14:23:54 <Ainulindale> (write our own apps)
Aug 25 14:24:23 <naeg> and? are they already in unstable(atm flashing) in testing they arent
Aug 25 14:24:33 <naeg> DocScrutinizer: so will it work for me?
Aug 25 14:24:48 <DocScrutinizer> it works for everybody ;-)
Aug 25 14:25:23 <naeg> oh , i had mistaken you. i thought it would depend on where you live if it works
Aug 25 14:26:34 <naeg> btw does it work also if i have numbers in non-international format
Aug 25 14:27:01 <DocScrutinizer> that's exactly what it's for
Aug 25 14:32:02 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: btw, depending on how that's handled by your carrier you might want to set areacode to the carrier-prefix rather than your hometown's
Aug 25 14:32:45 <naeg> well...i don't know what you are talking about :/
Aug 25 14:33:01 <DocScrutinizer> for a mobile phone a geographical areacode usually doesn't make much sense
Aug 25 14:33:34 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: I'm talking about correct setup of phone-utils.conf
Aug 25 14:34:21 <naeg> i reboot now, insert sim and i will see if it works as i expected
Aug 25 14:34:52 <naeg> if so, SHR made great steps during the last half year
Aug 25 14:35:27 <DocScrutinizer> you'll need quite a few minutes until you'll see ;-) first boot is slooow. And it's recommended to reboot another time after first boot finished
Aug 25 14:36:19 <DocScrutinizer> select illume-shr theme! not plain illume
Aug 25 14:36:34 <naeg> did already
Aug 25 14:38:12 <naeg> the settings app is also alot better, faster and the design is cool
Aug 25 14:41:26 <Slaxxer> yea
Aug 25 14:42:59 <Majkhii> hi guys
Aug 25 14:43:08 <naeg> hey
Aug 25 14:43:09 <DocScrutinizer> you might want to "opkg install fsoraw" as it's not yet in default image afaik, and you will want to use it for apps that shouldn't be suspended (like mokomaze)
Aug 25 14:43:36 <Majkhii> is here anyone who use successfully elock?
Aug 25 14:44:18 <Majkhii> i am on shr-unstable but when i press aux and elock shows, enlightenment shows error (recovery, exit)
Aug 25 14:46:15 <Slaxxer> may want to use 080809 shr-unstable    lite image
Aug 25 14:47:36 <DocScrutinizer> Slaxxer: ??
Aug 25 14:48:09 <DocScrutinizer> why lite?
Aug 25 14:49:39 <Tschaka> DocScrutinizer, are you a bit into mdbus calls?
Aug 25 14:49:51 <DocScrutinizer> not really
Aug 25 14:50:27 <Tschaka> i would like to know how to suffix certain properites when sending a SMS via mdbus. (look http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.html;hb=HEAD#SendMessage )
Aug 25 14:50:44 <Tschaka> especially the ones for CSM
Aug 25 14:50:50 <DocScrutinizer> all I know is "mdbus -s" (even without "-s" for session bus aiui)
Aug 25 14:51:07 <Tschaka> oh ok :)
Aug 25 14:51:20 <Tschaka> thx though!
Aug 25 14:51:20 <DocScrutinizer> Tschaka: as mickey|bbl 
Aug 25 14:51:24 <DocScrutinizer> asK
Aug 25 14:51:54 <DocScrutinizer> he should know ;-D
Aug 25 14:52:06 <Tschaka> okay, i will, thx. btw, he is proposing the lite image, b/c there is no full image available atm :)
Aug 25 14:52:18 <naeg> how can i get rid of this rush during calls again?
Aug 25 14:52:38 <DocScrutinizer> huh? 88full is what I use here since 3 weeks
Aug 25 14:52:52 <DocScrutinizer> ruwh?
Aug 25 14:52:55 <Majkhii> Tschaka: i have a little script to send messages from cli-framework
Aug 25 14:53:23 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: talking about audio?
Aug 25 14:53:38 <Tschaka> Majkhii, could you copy it into private message? :)
Aug 25 14:53:42 <fredrin> gah, dead GSM after a opkg upgrade :( 
Aug 25 14:53:48 <naeg> DocScrutinizer: when someone is phoning with me he hears a noise all the time
Aug 25 14:53:56 <fredrin> FSO seams to fail 
Aug 25 14:54:05 <fredrin> how to debug that? 
Aug 25 14:54:20 <Majkhii> Tschaka: ok but you must rewrite it, because it is with ssh login to phone :)
Aug 25 14:54:47 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: either that's buzz, then get buzzfix. Or it's noise then reduce mic output level (control 5 iirc)
Aug 25 14:55:09 <Majkhii> Tschaka: i will paste it to pastebin
Aug 25 14:55:21 <naeg> i think its the mic output
Aug 25 14:55:35 <Tschaka> right. Majkhii is it able to send multipart messages? since thats what i actually wanna test :)
Aug 25 14:55:45 <der-lehmann> (?) are the "Ring Volume" changer in shr-setting working
Aug 25 14:55:53 <Majkhii> Tschaka: yes
Aug 25 14:56:10 <Tschaka> Majkhii, then give me AS FAST AS YOU CAN :D
Aug 25 14:56:23 <Majkhii> Tschaka: it split the messages to more
Aug 25 14:56:25 <Majkhii> Tschaka: http://pastebin.com/m73b8c671
Aug 25 14:56:33 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: Control 5: "Mono Playback Volume"   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Alsamixer_channel_controls, edit /usr/share/shr/scenarii/gsmhandset.state
Aug 25 14:56:41 <Majkhii> Tschaka: its little shitty but working :)
Aug 25 14:57:14 <der-lehmann> same discuss i see
Aug 25 14:57:30 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: suggested values are ~110 for some devices. You need to adjust to your unique device sensitivity anyway
Aug 25 14:57:42 <Tschaka> Majkhii, do the messages receive as one sms, or as multiple parts? anyway, i'll just try. got some free sms left this month :)
Aug 25 14:58:11 <naeg> DocScrutinizer: any value you suggest?
Aug 25 14:58:12 <Majkhii> Tschaka: multiple...
Aug 25 14:58:23 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: suggested values are ~110 for some devices. You need to adjust to your unique device sensitivity anyway
Aug 25 14:58:52 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: simply try to reduce whatever value you find there, by ~10
Aug 25 14:59:01 <DocScrutinizer> ten test,... repeat
Aug 25 14:59:07 <DocScrutinizer> then
Aug 25 14:59:42 <Tschaka> Majkhii, well, thats what i actually want to test with mdbus, since apparently it is possible to send those "normally", but shr messages fails gracefully. maybe it's uneeded anyway, as dos mentioned somewhere, that opimd willsupport it anyway - which should be around the corner. thanks though :)
Aug 25 14:59:59 <Majkhii> Tschaka: no problem ;)
Aug 25 15:00:12 <naeg> thanks DocScrutinizer for everything
Aug 25 15:00:31 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: we had to find a compromise between some of the users have noise issue, or others have too low volume of their voice at far end. We decided noise is minor problem
Aug 25 15:00:44 <DocScrutinizer> naeg: yw, np
Aug 25 15:00:47 <DocScrutinizer> bbl
Aug 25 15:01:37 <naeg> oh god these bastards show in tv how to make a kepap at home -.-
Aug 25 15:08:34 <naeg> ok i really have to say that SHR is great. may i will create an archlinux-based shr copy :D
Aug 25 15:09:27 <Slaxxer> that would nearly be slackware?
Aug 25 15:09:51 <naeg> Slaxxer: http://www.archlinux.org but its better :D
Aug 25 15:10:06 <naeg> and our port: http://www.archmobile.org ;)
Aug 25 16:02:20 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3ad526b36809 10/fsousaged/src/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
Aug 25 16:02:20 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: fsousaged: use enum internally to derive resume reason
Aug 25 16:02:20 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: fix swapped idle vs. busy states when notifying idlenotifier after resume
Aug 25 16:47:12 <PBeck> hi
Aug 25 16:51:47 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r3e1b090ad620 10/fsonetworkd/src/plugins/sharing/plugin.vala: fsonetworkd: catch up with vala 0.7.x
Aug 25 17:15:11 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r3b02e7fc7b74 10/ (.gitignore xml/org.freesmartphone.xml): add gitignore
Aug 25 17:17:08 <elopio> hello. I can't connect to wifi using shr.
Aug 25 17:17:16 <elopio> with mokonect I get a time out while the dhcp is being configured.
Aug 25 17:17:24 <elopio> is there a guide with all the configuration steps? I don't know what might be wrong
Aug 25 17:17:54 <Undrwater> elopio: open AP?
Aug 25 17:17:55 <PaulFertser> elopio: can you use the method described in FSO_Resources?
Aug 25 17:18:56 <PaulFertser> elopio: worked reliably for me.
Aug 25 17:19:19 <PaulFertser> elopio: also for some APs you'll need to "wmiconfip -i eth0 --power=maxperf" right after association.
Aug 25 17:19:28 <PaulFertser> s/confip/config/
Aug 25 17:19:29 <apt> PaulFertser meant: elopio: also for some APs you'll need to "wmiconfig -i eth0 --power=maxperf" right after association.
Aug 25 17:21:28 <Undrwater> PaulFertser: does that last only while the device is up?
Aug 25 17:21:34 <Undrwater> or associated
Aug 25 17:22:07 * elopio reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources
Aug 25 17:22:18 <elopio> I'll let you know in some minutes. Thanks
Aug 25 17:23:45 <PaulFertser> Undrwater: will work whenever the driver is loaded and binded.
Aug 25 17:24:54 <Undrwater> so when unbound, the device does not maintain that state or regain that state the next time it is loaded? ( awkward question)
Aug 25 17:25:30 <PaulFertser> Undrwater: when unbound the device should loose its state.
Aug 25 17:26:00 <PaulFertser> Undrwater: same when the whole device is suspended or ar6000 is not loaded.
Aug 25 17:26:17 <Undrwater> OK...for some reason, i was thinking when invoking that command it was a one-shot deal
Aug 25 17:26:30 <Undrwater> maybe the way it's written in one of the wikis
Aug 25 17:26:47 <wjbaird> PaulFertser:  btw - wifi is still not working for me in the latest shr-unstable, with the method in FSO_Resources...  I finally installed fsoraw yesterday, and I can associate and get an address with udhcpd, but pings still get nothing back.   It was working fine in the shr-u build from July 3rd.   :-(
Aug 25 17:27:14 <wjbaird> s/udhcpd/udhcpc
Aug 25 17:28:32 <tomcatek> wjbaird: check if all routes (well.. one) all set correctly
Aug 25 17:29:51 <wjbaird> tomcatek:  it looks fine to me- I got a route that looks like : 0.0.0.0    10.151.64.1 0.0.0.0 GW 0 0 0 eth0'
Aug 25 17:31:06 <wjbaird> tomcatek:   same as I was getting before upgrade shr...   but now if I ping 10.151.64.1 or one of the dns servers I get nothing back.    I also noticed that the Tx and Rx counts from ifconfig continue to go up slowly...   but I'm not sure what that means...
Aug 25 17:31:12 <dos1> ~seen spaetz
Aug 25 17:31:12 <tomcatek> have You pinged gateway or some other address
Aug 25 17:31:16 <apt> spaetz <n=spaetz@v30439.1blu.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 56d 5h 6m 3s ago, saying: 'all preferred versions at least'.
Aug 25 17:31:43 <tomcatek> dos1: be patient! maybye he'll be back ;)
Aug 25 17:32:05 <wjbaird> tomcatek:  so yeah, I did try pinging the gw - but nothing came back.
Aug 25 17:32:28 <dos1> ~seen Hire
Aug 25 17:32:29 <apt> hire <n=hire@host13-82-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #gsoc, 129d 19h 13m 22s ago, saying: 'http://hire.mybrute.com/'.
Aug 25 17:32:34 <dos1> ~seen Dave
Aug 25 17:32:35 <apt> dave <n=Daveweis@189-219.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 75d 22h 31m 58s ago, saying: '<dpkg> are you using Windows?, Dave'.
Aug 25 17:32:59 <dos1> ;/
Aug 25 17:34:30 <tomcatek> wjbaird: try pinging some address. like 212.77.100.101
Aug 25 17:34:37 <PaulFertser> wjbaird: looks like some networking misconfiguration...
Aug 25 17:35:10 <PaulFertser> wjbaird: if you were able to get IP with DHCP but cannot ping anything sane despite you did the maxperf trick it looks like some routing problem.
Aug 25 17:35:20 <PaulFertser> wjbaird: try ifdown usb0...
Aug 25 17:35:57 <tomcatek> PaulFertser: it is possible, that gateway is not replaying on ICMP
Aug 25 17:36:16 <wjbaird> PaulFertser:  I've already done an "ifdown usb0"
Aug 25 17:37:00 <tomcatek> wjbaird: tried to ping Fr from PC?
Aug 25 17:37:16 <PaulFertser> wjbaird: there're cases where pings got lost etc because of that power saving setting. But other than that i fail to see any reasons.
Aug 25 17:37:51 <wjbaird> tomcatek:  I've tried pinging a few other addresses from the FR.   no luck.   Unfortunately this is my work's open network, so I don't have anything that can route to it...
Aug 25 17:38:59 <tomcatek> wjbaird: it is possible, that Your work network is routing unknown device into nowwhere
Aug 25 17:40:21 <wjbaird> tomcatek: I don't think so..   1.5 weeks ago I was able to repeatably successfully connect to this network from a July 3rd shr build 
Aug 25 17:40:33 <wjbaird> then I decided to upgrade...  :-/
Aug 25 17:40:49 <PaulFertser> wjbaird: i don't think there were any significant changes in the kernel...
Aug 25 17:42:28 <tomcatek> wjbaird: if Your FR obtain IP address there is a comunication between FR and network
Aug 25 17:43:37 <wjbaird> tomcatek:  I know - that is what confuses me.   I get the IP, and I get what looks like a sensible DNS setting, but dns lookups fail, and I can't ping any external addresses I try.   :-(  :,(
Aug 25 17:44:10 <tomcatek> can You ping any internal?
Aug 25 17:45:36 <wjbaird> tomcatek:  it's an externally facing 'guest' network - I don't know any internal addresses to use...
Aug 25 17:45:52 <ChristW> [SHR-U] To opkg upgrade or not opkg upgrade, that's the question...
Aug 25 17:46:14 <tomcatek> wjbaird: what nameserver do You have?
Aug 25 17:46:16 <wjbaird> tomcatek:  on my home network I can't get even this far - I don't get an address back from udhcp..
Aug 25 17:47:04 <wjbaird> tomcatek: 148.87.1.21
Aug 25 17:47:24 <tomcatek> wjbaird: it's external one
Aug 25 17:48:06 <tomcatek> wjbaird: when You ping something does the name is translated into IP?
Aug 25 17:48:38 <wjbaird> tomcatek:  nope.   I can't ping 148.87.1.21and if I ping www.google.ca for instance, it just sits there for a long time.
Aug 25 17:52:42 <tomcatek> wjbaird: for me it looks like network limitations... can You go outside and check some open network?
Aug 25 17:54:24 <wjbaird> tomcatek: I can give it a try tonight, perhaps...   although as I said, I was able to connect to this network not long ago...     Thanks for your help...
Aug 25 17:56:06 <tomcatek> wjbaird: You can always have network admins very sensitive on security issues ;)
Aug 25 18:01:57 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-terminal * rcd943f669cd0 10/src/ (mainwindow.vala terminal.vala): change meaning of geometry parameter to be more in line with other terminal emulators
Aug 25 18:03:15 <The-Butch> hi
Aug 25 18:03:21 <tomcatek> ho
Aug 25 18:17:45 <Undrwater> PaulFertser: the rmmod ar6000 && modprobe ar6000 goes before fsoraw -r WiFi ... in an exec line?
Aug 25 20:56:53 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03spam 07framework * r8402f6c2d758 10/framework/subsystems/odeviced/pyglet/linux.py: 
Aug 25 20:56:53 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: patterns: chose the first libc you find, this makes is works with uclibc.
Aug 25 20:56:53 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: Fixes FSO #338
Aug 25 21:04:39 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03eolson 07framework * rb8f65c09c2aa 10/framework/config.py: config: improve finding installpath when symlinked (ipkg-link etc.) to other locations
Aug 25 21:31:08 * Weiss added "-retro" to his X initialisation options on his FR, instantly increasing his geek credit by about 10 points
Aug 25 21:31:20 <Weiss> (not that I needed much help on geek cred..)
Aug 25 22:14:22 <Mortak> hi
Aug 25 22:15:32 <ShellEvil> hi
Aug 25 22:54:10 <CIA-52> freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-terminal * r68dab4012f8e 10/.gitignore: gitignore++
Aug 25 23:08:32 <Kero> OK, that's a beginning of a convenient Ruby API for dbus.
Aug 25 23:10:44 <Kero> now I need to figure out how mdbus provides all these possibilities when you say mdbus -s service without path and interface
Aug 25 23:11:11 <Kero> or maybe I don't, as mdbus does that for me ;)
Aug 25 23:13:07 <max_posedon> Kero, you interested in ruby dbus API? or smth more?
Aug 25 23:17:02 <Kero> max_posedon: convenient dev env. I want to play with opimd to start with, and surpass frameworkd rules later on :)
Aug 25 23:17:45 <Kero> besides that, building a series of ruby recipes for OE/SHR
Aug 25 23:18:20 <max_posedon> very nice... I prefer ruby than python... but... neo
Aug 25 23:21:09 <Kero> ruby is running, and so are the gtk bindings :)
Aug 25 23:21:32 <Kero> gems turns out to be harder than expected
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