**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 01 02:59:57 2009 Sep 01 03:16:05 rools Sep 01 03:16:43 one rooly to ring them all Sep 01 04:20:54 f Sep 01 04:57:13 openmoko: 03werner * r5598 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Sep 01 04:57:13 openmoko: - use rsync also for top-level Makefile and expanded/Makefile Sep 01 04:57:13 openmoko: - web/: http://people.openmoko.org/werner/gta02-core.html Sep 01 04:57:13 openmoko: - modules/Makefile: use gzip -f to avoid silly questions Sep 01 04:58:57 openmoko: 03werner * r5599 10/trunk/gta02-core/docs/GETTING-STARTED: - GETTING-STARTED: we now have "lazy" PDF for footprints as well Sep 01 05:36:20 root@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg Sep 01 05:36:20 -sh: opkg: not found Sep 01 05:36:25 lol Sep 01 05:37:27 ... what did you do? Sep 01 05:38:01 unless the answer is "install another OS" you just fuxord things bad. Sep 01 05:39:44 vininim: opkg-cl Sep 01 05:39:57 vininim: use it to update and upgrade, the symlink will return back Sep 01 05:40:29 that should be on the wiki Sep 01 05:40:38 I did an upgrade the other night with just 'opkg' Sep 01 05:40:46 seems to be ok though Sep 01 05:44:16 ndnihil: he just installed some odd image, there was only one like that Sep 01 05:45:11 ah Sep 01 05:49:09 SeligArkin: heh, awake at this time? :-) Sep 01 05:49:39 DocScrutinizer Apparently so! Sep 01 05:51:10 hmm, time for a snooze here Sep 01 05:51:20 lightweight, it's only midnight Sep 01 05:51:29 er, 01:00 rather Sep 01 05:51:41 was midnight just a few minutes ago I swear Sep 01 05:51:56 somewhere it's always midnight Sep 01 05:52:29 Its 0152. >.> Sep 01 05:52:43 or 0652 according to the server I IRC from Sep 01 05:53:02 753 Sep 01 05:53:04 Tue Sep 1 00:53:03 CDT 2009 Sep 01 05:53:48 you may guess whether am or pm ;-P Sep 01 05:54:13 I'll put a tenner on am Sep 01 05:54:46 pb Sep 01 05:54:55 past brinner Sep 01 05:55:41 brinner? Sep 01 05:55:42 brinner is the dinner I take at my bakery when they just open Sep 01 05:55:45 ah Sep 01 05:56:22 watching other people calling it a breakfast Sep 01 05:56:38 n8 Sep 01 06:04:06 wow Sep 01 06:04:26 shr-unstable as of the other night seems to have fixed something Sep 01 06:04:34 doing another upgrade, and it didn't choke on navit Sep 01 06:05:07 previously every time I tried to install navit by name from repo (opkg install navit) it ended with the "Killed" Sep 01 06:05:17 this time it went right through Sep 01 06:05:29 always had to wget the package and install it from fs Sep 01 06:05:49 ndnihil: do You have navit repository included? Sep 01 06:05:59 and I didn't even kill X or turn on swap (figured it would be small but was wrong) Sep 01 06:06:03 yes Sep 01 06:06:25 for svn Sep 01 06:07:30 heh Sep 01 06:07:51 so I'm happy for You, that everything works well :) Sep 01 06:08:00 I didn't say that Sep 01 06:08:26 it just didn't die/choke/crash when I expected it to Sep 01 06:08:28 :) Sep 01 06:10:10 can't get routing in navit to work for shit, can't get wifi to associate with WPA(2) APs, it's still unbearably slow due to the workstation class window manager, and I still need to do the buzz-fix Sep 01 06:11:01 ndnihil: with OSM maps routing works for distance ~600km Sep 01 06:11:10 at least for me Sep 01 06:11:20 I pulled down the majority of north america Sep 01 06:11:24 1.4G worth Sep 01 06:12:02 but it's the input that is broken Sep 01 06:12:08 inputting an address to navigate to Sep 01 06:12:19 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r35152439e505 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (backend_manager.py docs/TODO pimb_csv_contacts.py): opimd: backend manager: add Synchronize method Sep 01 06:12:21 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r832fdfd68458 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): opimd: implement disabling handlers Sep 01 06:12:22 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r5d627830c695 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_calls.py: opimd: Calls: implement GetMewMissedCalls method Sep 01 06:12:23 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r158a9ce6666c 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py: opimd: Messages: implement GetUnreadMessages method Sep 01 06:12:25 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r40275bb2b815 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_notes.py: opimd: Notes: implement NewTag and TagRemoved signals Sep 01 06:12:57 but the n900 is just around the corner :) Sep 01 06:13:03 :) Sep 01 06:14:12 dos1|away: nie wstydz sie ;) Sep 01 06:14:42 tomcatek: cos mi sie ustawic nie chce inny nich przy away ;P zreszta - chyba kanal pomyliles :D Sep 01 06:14:50 s/nich/nick/ Sep 01 06:14:52 dos1|away meant: tomcatek: cos mi sie ustawic nie chce inny nick przy away ;P zreszta - chyba kanal pomyliles :D Sep 01 06:15:04 gah! no mowimmy polsku Sep 01 06:15:15 ;D Sep 01 06:15:23 ok Sep 01 06:15:41 so starting to clone PackageKit repo and going out :P Sep 01 06:16:32 sorry, wndow 5 instead of 4... Sep 01 06:19:00 though, if that was in fact polish, do either of you by chance have a good recipe for perogis? Sep 01 06:19:53 a good polish friend of mine used to bring them over all the time and they were magnificent, but after I moved I tried lots of store-bought perogis and they all suck Sep 01 06:20:07 I loved the real ones though Sep 01 06:20:43 whatisit? Sep 01 06:20:50 it;s called "pierogi" Sep 01 06:20:51 :) Sep 01 06:21:04 yea but whatisit Sep 01 06:21:12 doh, s/perogi/pierogi/g Sep 01 06:21:20 Slaxxer: food :) Sep 01 06:21:26 Slaxxer: is a dumpling stuffed with goodness Sep 01 06:21:31 ndnihil: what do You want to have inside? Sep 01 06:21:31 it's Sep 01 06:21:42 meet or other stuff. Sep 01 06:21:44 ? Sep 01 06:21:49 apples Sep 01 06:22:02 she used to bring over meat, potato, potato and cheese, and one other kind I was never too sure what it was Sep 01 06:22:07 but it was good Sep 01 06:22:51 I think it might have had bacon in it Sep 01 06:22:56 bacon and other stuff Sep 01 06:23:59 http://tinyurl.com/mspn2n Sep 01 06:24:23 * ndnihil waits for goatse.cx to pop up Sep 01 06:24:26 :) Sep 01 06:24:39 hehe Sep 01 06:24:58 that's my first response every time I see a tinyurl link Sep 01 06:25:09 "what atrocity is this going to bring to my screen" Sep 01 06:25:39 ooh, these look good Sep 01 06:25:40 thanks! Sep 01 06:26:08 I always ate them boiled and drenched in butter Sep 01 06:26:09 no problem Sep 01 06:26:14 but I hear they can be fried too? Sep 01 06:26:26 You can explore that page. there are more recepies Sep 01 06:27:11 first You cook them and then you can have them fried Sep 01 06:28:14 er, I wonder how well google translated this: "grated cheese cake" Sep 01 06:28:27 for the spinach Sep 01 06:28:36 just grated cheese I assume? Sep 01 06:28:48 cake being a descriptive term that didn't translate? Sep 01 06:29:20 here "cheesecake" is a sweet pie type thing Sep 01 06:32:31 the egg and bacon one looks awesome Sep 01 06:36:57 :) Sep 01 06:37:24 have fun while preparing :) Sep 01 09:19:04 good morning! Sep 01 09:21:47 <[Rui]> good morning! Sep 01 09:36:58 good morning! Sep 01 09:42:33 well, it's almost 12 Sep 01 09:42:36 :) Sep 01 09:45:27 yeah, but i just stood up Sep 01 09:45:34 also almost 12 here Sep 01 09:46:15 almost 11 here. Sep 01 09:46:21 I need to get out of bed. Sep 01 10:23:12 Anyone get Dictator to replay the recordings nice? I get just a horrible sound when replaying from this otherwise excellent application. Sep 01 10:24:30 Daramarak: do they play fine on your pc? Sep 01 10:24:49 I haven't tried yet. Sep 01 10:25:08 Ill try now. Sep 01 10:39:32 lindi-:Nah, not right there either. Seems to play at half speed. Have read about the problem, but not a solution. Sep 01 10:40:29 Daramarak: you must have recorded it wrong then Sep 01 10:42:26 lindi-: I pressed the big red button in the wrong way? I haven't done any configurations on the application. Sep 01 10:45:39 hi there :) Sep 01 10:45:51 Hi Graf_Ithaka Sep 01 10:45:56 hello Sep 01 11:12:52 I would like to startup a spesific application in landscape mode from the shr-launcher. Is there mechanism for that in the launcher system, or must I create a sh file that launches it with the correct xrandr settings? Sep 01 11:26:23 Daramarak: I just did it with sh-magic in the .desktop file.. Exec = xrandr -o 1; program; sleep 1; xrandr -o 0 Sep 01 11:27:00 Daramarak: I need the sleep 1 cause otherwise my screen's messed up .. dunno why, but it worked for me that way Sep 01 11:28:12 hey all Sep 01 11:28:22 i ran an upgrade last night (on SHR) Sep 01 11:28:32 and now "contacts" crashes Sep 01 11:28:49 and if i try to dial someone on the list the dialer also doesnt dial... Sep 01 11:28:53 anyone? :\ Sep 01 11:29:04 maybe i shouldn't update Sep 01 11:29:10 hehe Sep 01 11:29:15 possibly Sep 01 11:29:27 you can probably downgrade until it's fixed Sep 01 11:29:45 how do i downgrade ? just get the old package? Sep 01 11:29:54 (of whatever fails) Sep 01 11:30:19 yeah you can probably specify a version number in opkg Sep 01 11:30:28 or rebuild the package itself Sep 01 11:30:29 spdr: opkg -force-downgrade Sep 01 11:30:36 oh, cool Sep 01 11:30:41 thanks Sep 01 11:38:22 Graf_Ithaka: Ok, ill try that too. Thanks. Sep 01 11:44:15 oh nevermind Sep 01 11:44:22 it seems it was fixed while i was sleeping Sep 01 11:44:32 another update && upgrade did the job Sep 01 11:54:05 Daramarak: np Sep 01 11:54:57 Does anybody know how to change the speaker volume in paroli? There's a speaker symbol und the left top of the program and it somehow went from 100 to 40. I dont know how to change it and its impossible to talk to someone with the volume at 40 Sep 01 11:55:38 alsamixer? Sep 01 11:56:41 spdr: no these values didnt change.. its some kind of software-sound-regulating by paroli Sep 01 11:58:21 oh, sorry no idea about that one Sep 01 13:30:57 ends up I can't even boot anymore Sep 01 13:31:06 didn't opkg upgrade was that dangerous u_u Sep 01 13:31:43 *know Sep 01 13:35:07 what distro ? Sep 01 13:47:42 vininim: I ended up there once, I flashed an tarred image :-o Sep 01 13:48:14 vininim: But I still was able to boot in NAND and reflash it. Sep 01 14:59:02 Hi, I'm getting getrlimit@GLIBC_2.0 stray error in glibc-2.9, any hints why ? Sep 01 16:06:31 the Planet ;) Sep 01 16:09:43 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * rca2de52e3272 10/vapi/elm.vapi: elm.vapi: bind new scroller API as per E SVN rev 42147 Sep 01 16:11:34 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libeflvala * r46131f0d85f4 10/vapi/elm.vapi: elm.vapi: bind additional scroller API as per E SVN rev 42148 Sep 01 16:58:48 hi Sep 01 17:02:37 whoaa.. lots of ppl here :) Sep 01 17:03:59 i have a question : does anyone here have any experience with QRcode readers on openmoko? is there some application for this? Sep 01 17:04:29 (qrcode is that weird barcode type thingy) Sep 01 17:17:24 how could FR read such code? no camera Sep 01 17:18:39 max_posedon: i am sorry if i bother you, but could you help me with creating a jffs2 image? i can't get it working... Sep 01 17:22:17 Graf_Ithaka: paroli operates on modem AT+CLVL (or the like) "speaker" vol attenuation. Strongly deprecated, but obviously nobody told paroli devels. No idea however how to change that. Maybe use mickeyterm and issue the command by yourself, as a last resort. Paroli might just use the level there which it reads out via AT+CLVL? Sep 01 17:23:17 Graf_Ithaka: also framework has a means to fiddle with this setting. somewhere in config Sep 01 17:23:39 all this "AFAIK"! Sep 01 17:24:59 DocScrutinizer: pressing the AUX button also did the trick, you can switch in 20% steps from 40 to 100 using it while calling someone.. I asked in #paroli, anways thanks for answering :) Sep 01 17:27:19 still what fso/paroli(?) is doing there basically is wrong and deprecated Sep 01 17:30:54 Does A7 is reeally a GSM buzz proof devic Sep 01 17:33:07 rategain: well, it's much better than a non-buzzfixed device. You may occasionally recognize a little bit of buzz still, but that's not any worse than with Sagem/cheap Nokia/whatever Sep 01 17:35:34 that buzz is a common problem of all GSM-mobile devices, and you encounter rather frequently. The question is if it's really annoying or simply a faint noise in the background you never notice if you don't listen for it Sep 01 17:36:29 Actually i am going to buy a new GTA02A6 ..with Buzz fixed .. Sep 01 18:00:04 get an A7 if you want the buzz fix Sep 01 18:07:52 hi Sep 01 18:08:28 how can I upgrade tar on shr ? default do not support the -z option Sep 01 18:08:44 install the actual tar Sep 01 18:08:53 by default it's a symlink to busybox Sep 01 18:08:55 opkg install tar Sep 01 18:09:07 ok thanks :) Sep 01 18:28:08 can't find tar packet with opkg nor browsing the repository :/ Sep 01 18:28:19 opkg update Sep 01 18:28:23 (for GTA01) Sep 01 18:28:28 already done Sep 01 18:28:28 heh, ok Sep 01 18:28:53 GTA01 is starting to be poorly supported Sep 01 18:28:59 yeah :/ Sep 01 18:29:11 Chocky: no Sep 01 18:29:13 even though many of the packages would be intentical Sep 01 18:29:16 almost all of them. Sep 01 18:29:21 Chocky: yes Sep 01 18:29:29 paulproteus: yes. as per this example. Sep 01 18:29:31 Chocky: and also i hope that soon the kernel support will improve too Sep 01 18:29:35 * Chocky slaps bitchx Sep 01 18:29:36 good. Sep 01 18:29:45 tag8tag: what version do you use? Sep 01 18:29:54 unstable Sep 01 18:30:23 its pretty hard to find informations about gta01 Sep 01 18:30:49 tag8tag: gta01 is pretty much the same Sep 01 18:31:03 tag8tag: so, what particular problem are you having? Dare to pastebin some output? ;) Sep 01 18:31:15 yes, but i lose a lot of time because of little differnces Sep 01 18:31:30 i'm trying to install debian Sep 01 18:31:43 but tar -z isnt supported by default Sep 01 18:32:02 tag8tag: the same with gta02 Sep 01 18:32:05 hehe Sep 01 18:32:10 tag8tag: either install real tar or Sep 01 18:32:21 tag8tag: do gzip -d | tar -x Sep 01 18:33:44 ok Sep 01 18:34:05 i must build my own tar package I suppose ? Sep 01 18:34:34 tag8tag: no Sep 01 18:34:39 just wget the package and install it from fs Sep 01 18:34:42 tag8tag: better use gzip -d | tar -x Sep 01 18:34:55 tar is called by debootstrap Sep 01 18:35:54 thanks btw ;) Sep 01 18:36:02 tag8tag: hm, i remember i installed debian using om2007 and cdebootstrap, no good tar was needed. Sep 01 18:36:27 mmm Sep 01 18:36:53 the output is pretty clear about that Sep 01 18:37:13 tag8tag: also there's currently one nasty problem with debian and cdebootstrap. Sep 01 18:37:13 tag8tag: you can install real tar manually from shr repos. Sep 01 18:37:38 im looking for it Sep 01 18:38:22 tag8tag: just build.shr-project.org/ blabla experimental blabla Sep 01 18:39:41 ok thanks Sep 01 18:40:30 tag8tag: and there're ready-to-use-on-SD gta01 debian images available from josch (from pyneo project). Sep 01 18:41:54 images are not very nice answer though Sep 01 18:43:59 lindi-: well, i'm not sure. Debootstrap is mad good for using debian in chroot, but initial installation is ok with image, i guess. At least i don't see anything wrong. Quite the opposite, you get a predictable starting point (unlike our busybox-infected systems). Sep 01 18:45:02 I haven't found any suitable kernel image for my gta01 ;) and i tried several... the only way i found was to compile a kernel myself Sep 01 18:47:19 tag8tag: andy-tracking HEAD with defconfig is supposed to work "ok". Sep 01 18:47:57 i compiled this branch but the default image weren't working Sep 01 18:48:42 tag8tag: do you want to say the kernel from SHR unstable repos didn't boot? Sep 01 18:48:43 i've spend a night looking for GTA01 kernels can't find a working one Sep 01 18:48:50 tag8tag: should have asked me Sep 01 18:48:54 yes Sep 01 18:49:00 PaulFertser: well installer image would be ok Sep 01 18:49:09 PaulFertser: but image of initial system is not very nice Sep 01 18:49:30 shr, OM2009. OM2007 android... Sep 01 18:49:52 and some other images found anywhere on the internet Sep 01 18:50:19 PaulFertser: the quote ' I reflash this thing too much to invest any significant time customising it' describes some aspects of how this can be problematic Sep 01 18:50:23 since i played with uboot to try to fix that, maybe its my bad, or the previous user's Sep 01 18:50:53 tag8tag: quite possibly so. If you really have any problems you can describe with the lastest kernel from SHR please clarify. Sep 01 18:51:19 ok, since i kept my compiled kernel i can flash shr default image Sep 01 18:51:51 tag8tag: i'm not talking about the image Sep 01 18:51:58 tag8tag: i'm talking about the kernel. Sep 01 18:52:17 (havent found tar package on repo btw, tried unstable/gta01 and testing/gta01 ;) Sep 01 18:52:21 yes Sep 01 18:52:32 i mean kernel image Sep 01 18:55:09 tag8tag: this looks like tar of rootfs http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta01/shr-lite-glibc-ipk--20090807-om-gta01.rootfs.tar.gz Sep 01 18:57:25 mmm Sep 01 18:57:41 im looking for the tar command package Sep 01 18:57:45 :) Sep 01 19:05:51 tag8tag: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/tar_1.18-r0_armv4t.ipk Sep 01 19:07:22 nice thanks ! Sep 01 19:07:58 im dling the shr default kernel image, i'll tell u how it works Sep 01 19:08:18 since my uboot is functionnal now :> Sep 01 19:08:46 ;) Sep 01 19:09:08 one rooly to ring them all! Sep 01 19:09:29 ;] Sep 01 19:09:56 tag8tag: btw, if you flashed shr-unstable you could have installed that package simply by "opkg install tar" Sep 01 19:10:32 opkg keep saying that this package don't exists Sep 01 19:10:40 even after opkg update Sep 01 19:11:08 tag8tag: that's just fucked up :-o Sep 01 19:11:18 ;] Sep 01 19:11:29 its shr jffs default image Sep 01 19:11:49 lol Chocky Sep 01 19:11:49 tag8tag: unstable? and what opkg upgrade was ok? Sep 01 19:12:30 don't remember :s Sep 01 19:12:44 ;) Sep 01 19:13:03 ho wait my bad Sep 01 19:13:11 testing version Sep 01 19:13:24 I have to get uSD card for gta01... Sep 01 19:14:43 tag8tag: testing instead of unstable? That'd be wrong Sep 01 19:15:34 testing is outdated. Sep 01 19:15:46 use unstable;) Sep 01 19:17:56 no new unstable images must be fun in the sun time:) Sep 01 19:42:13 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r46d18c4b19a3 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_calls.py: opimd: Calls: fix syntax Sep 01 20:01:00 hi Sep 01 20:01:08 ho Sep 01 20:01:58 any one using debian here? Sep 01 20:02:28 installer is so buggy please help me installing Sep 01 20:03:41 dpkg: error processing dropbear (--configure): Sep 01 20:04:01 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Sep 01 20:05:15 how should i debug this? Sep 01 20:05:24 i'm no expert in linux please help :) Sep 01 20:05:49 you'll need to poke at the scripts /var/lib/dpkg/ Sep 01 20:06:00 you don't say what package is breaking Sep 01 20:08:23 dpkg: error processing dropbear (--configure): Sep 01 20:08:29 The package name is dropbear. it's ssh client or server (?) i guess Sep 01 20:08:31 dropbear package i guess :) Sep 01 20:09:04 ILL ssh now in to the box and make chroot Sep 01 20:09:06 manually Sep 01 20:09:14 then edit script? Sep 01 20:09:27 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * rb11cf37b9f5d 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/ (docs/TODO pimd_tasks.py): opimd: Tasks: implement UnfinishedTasks signal and GetUnfinishedTasks method Sep 01 20:10:03 I don't want ssh now Sep 01 20:10:12 :) Sep 01 20:10:51 thanks for helping me Sep 01 20:11:11 why are you ill? Sep 01 20:11:30 dropbear will be conflicting with host version, if it's a chroot Sep 01 20:14:35 Chocky: asshole it's chroot how it's going to be conflicting with anything on host? Sep 01 20:15:04 btw there's no /var/lib/dpkg Sep 01 20:15:30 I wanted to manually install dropbear from chroot Sep 01 20:15:58 But i still get this same shit error Sep 01 20:16:04 :( Sep 01 20:17:26 well thanks anyway Sep 01 20:17:28 bb Sep 01 20:28:42 PaulFertser: its ok with shr kernel image now Sep 01 20:29:42 tag8tag: so the kernel is not an issue obviously Sep 01 20:31:22 ^^ Sep 01 20:57:43 what dev node is NAND? Sep 01 20:58:05 naeg: mtdblock6 Sep 01 20:58:16 naeg: if you mean rootfs with unmodified bootloader Sep 01 20:58:28 PaulFertser: will /dev/root work also? Sep 01 20:59:16 naeg: if you booted from it i guess yes Sep 01 20:59:43 naeg: btw, nand partitioning is different for gta01 iirc. Sep 01 20:59:52 using gta02 Sep 01 21:01:43 PaulFertser: do you want to join archmobile? :D Sep 01 21:02:31 btw what are the reasons for usb 1.1? Sep 01 21:02:41 naeg: SoC limitation Sep 01 21:20:44 heh, love insults like that Sep 01 21:21:08 np Sep 01 21:21:12 :) Sep 01 21:21:31 back for more insults about stuff you don't understand? Sep 01 21:25:55 no I'm back to tell you thank you. I installed Debian. As someone suggested (maybe you?) I addited script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/dropbear.postinstall.sh and it went throuh Sep 01 21:26:03 :o Sep 01 21:26:04 ps. sorry for insults. Sep 01 21:26:33 so anyway, a chroot doesn't magically give you a new machine. It just makes an isolated filesystem. So, daemons using certain ports will definitely conflict Sep 01 21:26:44 but I just got another blockers Sep 01 21:28:25 I know I know, I just did get enough sleep Sep 01 21:29:22 so I guess you are right abt port conflicts Sep 01 21:29:52 Anyways thanks, I got problem solved and life is good Sep 01 21:30:04 bb Sep 01 22:20:55 does wifi work for anybody? (SHR) Sep 01 22:21:18 its not been working for a long while now, im starting to think ive broken it or something Sep 01 22:57:39 cu@all Sep 02 00:23:21 test Sep 02 00:23:56 ACK Sep 02 00:23:57 :-p Sep 02 00:24:03 ty Sep 02 00:24:13 :) Sep 02 00:55:15 openmoko: 03daveb * r5600 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (cpu.sch modem.sch): modem updates. Sep 02 01:50:17 Digital_Pioneer: sold your phone? Sep 02 01:51:15 fredrin: Not yet. Sep 02 01:52:41 dont sell it, it increases in value and the display would be cheaper over time :) Sep 02 01:53:21 like in one year, you could get back too it Sep 02 01:54:02 The phone increases in value? It's an A5 without a buzzfix, I think it's pretty undesirable even among Freerunners. Sep 02 01:54:03 just get a cheap ass nokia phone, that has flashlight, sms and call + very good batterytime :) Sep 02 01:54:36 never say never, it would have higher value in one year Sep 02 01:55:16 even you help with that, lol with your posts on the ML Sep 02 01:59:03 Meh, aside from the fact that I sort of look forward to a stable phone, my family hates my FR (seems to be GSM buzz? Not sure) and would hate to see me ever use it again. Heheh Sep 02 02:00:07 i hear you, lol. trust me, just get a cheap ass Nokia phone. Lots of buddies use them, they just work and you can use any simcard Sep 02 02:02:37 i think it's called Nokia 1208 Sep 02 02:02:43 http://www.nokia.no/finn-produkter/produkter/nokia-1208 good phone Sep 02 02:03:19 perfect for calling girls and family Sep 02 02:03:25 and it got a flash light, hehe Sep 02 02:04:01 and you can use the battery on the FR Sep 02 02:04:04 :) Sep 02 02:04:42 and maybe use it as a future charger for the FR Sep 02 02:08:11 get a Nokia 1100 :-p Sep 02 02:08:33 the one with the broken firmware? Sep 02 02:09:47 (most sold consumer electronics device in the world) Sep 02 02:10:59 but not all got the famous flaw, if it's true even Sep 02 02:11:23 i don't know how you can use them so send and receive sms of other sim-cards Sep 02 02:12:26 * SpeedEvil wants ebay to add time travel. Sep 02 02:12:36 I want to buy a n900 from 2012. Sep 02 02:13:16 buy it now and get it in 2012 Sep 02 02:14:05 * SpeedEvil is unlikely to be getting a n900 alas. Sep 02 02:14:47 it's just marketing anyway Sep 02 02:18:11 Yeah. Sep 02 02:26:19 fredrin: Yeah... But I really wanted an Android phone... ;P Sep 02 02:27:44 meh Sep 02 02:28:25 android would work better on the FR one year from now :P Sep 02 02:29:12 the freerunner will work better period a year from now Sep 02 02:29:49 :D Sep 02 02:30:23 apprehensiveness is now missing Sep 02 02:30:39 eh? Sep 02 02:31:25 = more developers Sep 02 02:32:50 then one have to use time with same developers Sep 02 02:33:50 but more developers is good too :) I like to have the cake and eat it too Sep 02 02:35:48 anyway, need sleep Sep 02 02:36:23 the FR kills my ssh conection, **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 02 02:59:58 2009