**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 09 03:00:02 2009 Sep 09 03:33:55 johnsu01: how did you format your card, and are you using qi or uboot? Sep 09 03:34:50 Undrwater: it's ext3, and booting from uboot Sep 09 03:35:30 johnsu01: have you tried using a com program to change your uboot environment? Sep 09 03:35:43 or are you trying to boot from NOR? Sep 09 03:36:30 I'm booting by holding down AUX and then selecting Boot Sep 09 03:36:38 Qi is actually installed as the bootloader otherwise Sep 09 04:34:07 johnsu01: sorry...got distracted Sep 09 04:35:30 that's NOR you're booting from...and if you simply select the "boot" option, it boots from the NAND by default Sep 09 04:37:22 i just re-read your question....and yes, e2fsprogs will allow you to format ext* Sep 09 05:43:27 openmoko: 03rehar * r5623 10/trunk/gta02-core/modules/dfbm-cs320.fpd: started BT module footprint Sep 09 05:45:31 johnsu01: booting from NOR is deprecated and can have unexpected side-effects. Just FYI. Sep 09 05:59:54 PaulFertser: booting from Qi spews the same mmcblk0 errors Sep 09 06:01:13 johnsu01: i don't say it's related. Just that NOR u-boot is so old that i wouldn't trust it to boot. Sep 09 06:06:31 also still getting the errors with glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=10000000 glamo_mci.sd_drive=2 Sep 09 06:06:37 sorry, drive=1 Sep 09 06:08:06 johnsu01: that's unfortunate. Have you tried another SD card? Sep 09 06:34:04 hm actually /proc/cmdline doesn't show the options from append-GTA02 Sep 09 06:35:31 johnsu01: append-GTA02 is read only by Qi and only when you boot from SD. Sep 09 06:35:42 johnsu01: Qi can't read any files from jffs2 Sep 09 06:36:08 PaulFertser: so how does one set the kernel arguments booting from jffs2? Sep 09 06:36:13 with Qi Sep 09 06:37:05 johnsu01: either by modifying Qi source or by compiling a kernel with initramfs integrated that does kexec. Sep 09 06:37:29 johnsu01: you can change maximum clock and drive strength runtime Sep 09 06:37:45 johnsu01: through /sys/modules/glamo_mci/parameters Sep 09 06:42:34 PaulFertser: moinmoin :-) Sep 09 06:43:21 johnsu01: or by using a decent bootloader like uBoot ;-P Sep 09 06:43:32 :) Sep 09 06:44:16 DocScrutinizer: morning :) Sep 09 06:44:20 PaulFertser: wasn't there some /boot/append.txt means to set cmdline params? Sep 09 06:44:39 DocScrutinizer: on ext2 it can be read, on jffs2 -- no chance. Sep 09 06:44:48 aah i c Sep 09 06:44:55 Qi is SD-centric by design. Sep 09 06:45:02 yeah Sep 09 06:45:21 never was meant for gta02 Sep 09 06:54:17 openmoko: 03ccc94453 07stable * r4ed6f14590c4 10/board/neo1973/gta02/ (gta02.c pcf50633.c): U-Boot GTA02: Always enable charger on startup Sep 09 06:58:15 hooray, working Sep 09 06:58:30 DocScrutinizer: thank you, you reminded me of Rask's patch that was left there on ML because nobody considers himself an OM u-boot maintainer. Sep 09 06:58:35 DocScrutinizer: now pushed Sep 09 06:58:45 booting from sd with qi, with the clock parameter Sep 09 06:58:46 (though i don't consider myself to be a maintainer of anything) Sep 09 06:58:54 johnsu01: yay :D Sep 09 06:59:01 either that or blowing in the sd slot fixed it ;) Sep 09 06:59:24 PaulFertser: welcome. Though I still miss to ask him to fix the other uBoot nasties I found Sep 09 06:59:38 as well as the ones others found ;-P Sep 09 06:59:42 johnsu01: you can get max clk up to 16Mhz runtime and see if it breaks anything. Sep 09 07:00:47 PaulFertser: you're maintainer of almost everything. You just didn't realize yet ;-P Sep 09 07:01:14 people nag you with hw-issues even ;-) Sep 09 07:02:06 I wonder when first request for buzzfix parts hits your mailbox Sep 09 07:02:44 DocScrutinizer: all was needed to get that (hw-issues questions) was me mentioning "TP DMM PSU" and some other cryptic words. :) Sep 09 07:03:11 If I still hoped for a job at OM and afiliates I really was angry on you ;-P Sep 09 07:03:16 DocScrutinizer: i received requests from local guys to do buzzfix and/or #1024 fix but i said i lack good soldering equipmen. Sep 09 07:03:47 DocScrutinizer: lol Sep 09 07:43:08 ~seen roh Sep 09 07:43:10 roh is currently on #openmoko (1d 11h 14m 3s), last said: 'dhcp.. i mean the v6-address-autoconfiguration'. Sep 09 07:55:53 how I lost connection to the freerunner while upgrading, how to resume the upgrade? Will it resume the packages "configure" too? Sep 09 08:11:39 chiui: I think so. postinstall scripts are stored in filesystem and executed after *every* install/upgrade, until they succeed and auto-delete Sep 09 08:12:16 thank you for the info :) Sep 09 08:12:22 yw Sep 09 08:12:45 it was even running on screen, but dropbear never started again :) Sep 09 08:23:31 Docscrutinizer-8: opkg auto-deletes them? Sep 09 08:24:22 lindi-: err, I only do wild guesses from what I experienced and concluded Sep 09 08:24:42 ok, dpkg does not delete postinst scripts Sep 09 08:26:03 I had to delete findutils(? iirc) postinstall script by hand as it failed and thus was triggered on each install of any pkg thereafter Sep 09 08:27:04 so my guess is those scripts are deleted/deactivated after successful run Sep 09 08:27:42 dunno if opkg does that or the script kills itself Sep 09 09:20:53 man, someone has to get on translating neovento's todo's Sep 09 09:21:10 *howto's Sep 09 09:35:00 who cares about neovento? Sep 09 09:53:57 Docscrutinizer-8, that's pretty harsh Sep 09 10:07:39 Docscrutinizer-8, that was pretty harsh. it's not that bad Sep 09 10:14:05 badcloud: hmm, no insult intended Sep 09 10:33:48 <[Rui]> hi, obm seems broken in yesterday's shr-u Sep 09 11:44:42 has anybody here built om-touch or worked with the toolkit? i can't build qt, always running into errors, which seem easy, but i can't find any real documentation on building that shit properly. http://pastebin.com/d535fb828 Sep 09 11:44:43 so, what i did was unpacking the toolkit, installing gcc and (to do more of what the toolkit doc said) libedje-dev, libmokoui2-dev, gconf-dbus-env. i also had to make symlinks for the gcc binaries, since qt-embedded's configure had another filenames for them Sep 09 12:17:04 might be a question for *cdevel Sep 09 12:51:01 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r0156eb4ebc32 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/ (accelerometer/plugin.vala accelerometer_lis302/plugin.vala): fsodevice: accelerometer: use threshhold + timeout instead of low pass filter to detect start/stop movements Sep 09 13:57:07 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1b17791b7046 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer_lis302/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: accelerometer_lis302: sample_rate, threshhold, full_scale configurable to customize movement detection Sep 09 13:57:08 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rbb3a09495420 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: accelerometer: first sketch at identifiying actual device orientation Sep 09 14:13:13 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rcda4d3c4dd12 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: accelerometer: fix logic in intInRegion() and use ternary values for atoms Sep 09 14:30:29 PaulFertser: ping Sep 09 14:37:56 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r1a74440bda25 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/ (accelerometer/plugin.vala accelerometer_lis302/plugin.vala): fsodeviced: accelerometer[_lis302]: fix more bugs, add more debugging Sep 09 14:48:17 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r271ab2481c93 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/ (accelerometer/plugin.vala accelerometer_lis302/plugin.vala): fsodeviced: accelerometer: finally fix intWithinRegion()... *sigh* Sep 09 14:53:32 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8b189e5017f4 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer/plugin.vala: Sep 09 14:53:32 freesmartphone.org: fsodeviced: accelerometer: remove debug output, first version seems to work fine Sep 09 14:53:32 freesmartphone.org: Now let's check CPU usage ;) Sep 09 15:21:41 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r5cad20bc5a6d 10/fsodeviced/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fsodeviced: accelerometer: hook into FSO resource system; available as Resource 'Accelerometer' Sep 09 15:57:16 do i have this right, that there will no further dev on openmoko phones be done? Sep 09 15:57:47 no, you don't Sep 09 15:58:01 there is plenty of dev going on. see the wiki. Sep 09 15:58:07 okay :) that's very nice Sep 09 15:59:33 cs info Sep 09 15:59:35 on the software okay but is there a ongoing dev redarding the hardware? i have seen articles that mention that the dev on gta03 is discontinued Sep 09 15:59:42 see the wiki Sep 09 15:59:45 regarding Sep 09 16:07:04 haeger: gta03 won't happen (anytime (soon)) Sep 09 16:08:06 docscrutinizer: that's what i have heard too Sep 09 16:14:19 gta02-core is being worked on Sep 09 16:14:36 but I'm unsure what funding the team doing that is planning on. Sep 09 16:17:02 freesmartphone.org: 03seba.dos1 07dos/opimd-tracking * r61cbc49eae24 10framework/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimd_messages.py: opimd: Messages: fix AddIncoming Sep 09 16:19:50 ShellEvil: I'm unsure my grammar processor is able to feed my semantics analysis stage correctly on your former post Sep 09 16:20:51 ShellEvil: made sense to me. In fact, a comma or too would spoil the meaning. Sep 09 16:22:26 gta02-core (the project) is being worked on Sep 09 16:22:51 I'm just not sure where the funding for the production of hardware gta02-cores'd come from. Sep 09 16:37:54 * Weiss runs BFS on his FR Sep 09 16:38:23 ShellEvil: for now that's a sad topic actually Sep 09 16:39:08 I'm not saying it's a bad idea - or an idea I don't want to see succeed - but funding is a problem. Sep 09 16:39:32 now that I know what's the meaning, the sentence looks pretty normal ;-P Sep 09 16:39:51 It might be less of one if you can convince the OM factory - whatever the arrangements are - to make your gta02-cores - using hte same supply sources. Sep 09 16:41:03 setting up fab is a nightmare. Never will happen for core (at FIC) Sep 09 16:42:10 sourcing was planned to see support from OM, but recently rumor has it that's quite uncertain Sep 09 16:45:04 :/ Sep 09 16:50:27 They can find other company that can support the gta02-core project Sep 09 16:51:23 I'm working on a omap micro and the gta02 is far away from the omap performance Sep 09 16:51:31 panicking: Sure. Sep 09 16:51:37 so move to the new samsung is an option Sep 09 16:51:53 panicking: Finding someone wiling to drop >100K isn't perhaps the easiest thing int he world. Sep 09 16:51:59 Even if it might end up profitable. Sep 09 16:52:09 Dr zummo Sep 09 16:52:10 ? Sep 09 16:52:12 option Sep 09 16:52:19 And 100K is quite conservative Sep 09 16:52:22 Brazilian University Sep 09 16:52:23 :) Sep 09 16:52:34 I read somenthing about this oppurtunites Sep 09 16:52:39 is it right? Sep 09 16:53:13 panicking: hey :) Sep 09 16:53:24 Sorry for the delay Sep 09 16:53:27 but I'm working Sep 09 16:53:30 on a camera sensor Sep 09 16:53:38 + android bug request Sep 09 16:53:49 I don't have a big community Sep 09 16:53:50 :D Sep 09 16:53:56 panicking: were you able to reproduce wlan problems with only standard tools? In fact i'd prefer you don't ;) Sep 09 16:54:18 If the kernel go in panic is not a problem of a tool Sep 09 16:54:25 s/don't/were not/ Sep 09 16:54:25 PaulFertser meant: panicking: were you able to reproduce wlan problems with only standard tools? In fact i'd prefer you were not ;) Sep 09 16:54:39 panicking: i suspect that you touch rfkill Sep 09 16:55:12 Hi everyone Sep 09 16:55:17 panicking: also please keep in mind that our goal is not to make wifi driver work proper but to make it somehow work with standard tools without too much problems. Sep 09 16:55:44 whey there isn't one perfect distro for openmoko? Sep 09 16:56:06 I use android as my daily phone now Sep 09 16:56:17 om2008.12 is pretty good, but it drinks the battery Sep 09 16:56:33 android is pretty good Sep 09 16:56:42 but we had a fight and he won Sep 09 16:56:45 I change Sep 09 16:56:51 the acceleratation Sep 09 16:56:55 code in android version Sep 09 16:56:58 i need a virtual keyboard Sep 09 16:57:08 because there isn't any mode to deactivate them Sep 09 16:57:11 a hebrew virtual keyboard Sep 09 16:57:17 without close allthe file descriptor Sep 09 16:57:46 and i think there is a problem with a large sim list in android Sep 09 16:57:52 if i remember right Sep 09 16:57:53 PaulFertser, do you know what is the flowcontrolled Sep 09 16:57:58 sysfs file Sep 09 16:58:04 What is the behavior Sep 09 16:58:04 ? Sep 09 16:58:24 plus, android didn't got any updates for a long time Sep 09 16:58:34 it's looks like there is no development Sep 09 16:59:01 panicking: i remember i was in your site :) Sep 09 16:59:15 Well, I'm alone Sep 09 16:59:23 what type of update do you nedd Sep 09 16:59:28 I fix a lot of things Sep 09 16:59:31 now Sep 09 16:59:50 The problem that openmoko Sep 09 16:59:54 has more hardware revision Sep 09 17:00:01 then android user Sep 09 17:00:12 i had a big problem last time i installed android Sep 09 17:00:21 but i don't seem to remember what it was Sep 09 17:00:28 I don't have video Sep 09 17:00:34 i can install it again :) Sep 09 17:00:37 but I think that android is the more usable version Sep 09 17:00:40 on the openmoko Sep 09 17:00:48 mms (not included) Sep 09 17:00:55 and the user has online support :D Sep 09 17:01:07 panicking: what version should i download and install Sep 09 17:01:09 ? Sep 09 17:01:19 uImage-v24 Sep 09 17:01:27 and the snapshot-v15 Sep 09 17:01:34 ok Sep 09 17:01:39 and take from the mailing list the last freerunner-ril.so Sep 09 17:01:40 downloading it right now... Sep 09 17:01:47 if you have trouble with the audio Sep 09 17:01:52 I can send other ril version Sep 09 17:01:54 without Sep 09 17:01:58 panicking: please elaborate on problems caused by GTA02-hw-revisions. I don't know of many Sep 09 17:02:01 the calypso audio adjustment Sep 09 17:02:07 you should upload it to your site Sep 09 17:02:24 DocScrutinizer-8, for now audio problem Sep 09 17:02:29 freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v15.jffs2 ? Sep 09 17:02:32 yes Sep 09 17:02:36 :) Sep 09 17:02:38 ok Sep 09 17:02:43 You must use two partition Sep 09 17:02:57 i will flash it Sep 09 17:03:12 audio problem is a mere question of adjusting mic sensitivity and earpiece level Sep 09 17:04:05 i want to do it like this: Sep 09 17:04:24 dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D free...jffs2 Sep 09 17:04:33 panicking: yes, i do Sep 09 17:04:36 dfu-util -a kernel uImage... Sep 09 17:04:48 * dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.... Sep 09 17:05:12 panicking: also i do know about audio problem. The same As DocScrutinizer-8 says. Sep 09 17:05:23 panicking: you shouldn't touch calypso volume control for that. Sep 09 17:05:39 PaulFertser, Sep 09 17:05:48 I have user that does't heard Sep 09 17:05:51 anything Sep 09 17:05:56 increase alsa audio Sep 09 17:06:06 so I increase the audio Sep 09 17:06:09 from calypso Sep 09 17:06:18 There is a patch in the fso too Sep 09 17:06:21 ? Sep 09 17:06:22 panicking: (flowcontrolled sysfs node) used to do proper logic on suspend/resume. Sep 09 17:06:34 Can you exaplain a little bit Sep 09 17:06:40 It's import for me Sep 09 17:06:41 ? Sep 09 17:06:41 panicking: +CLVL=255 this should be used always for all gta02 hardware revisions. Sep 09 17:06:44 panicking: sure Sep 09 17:07:08 There is a boy with this settings but has trouble with it Sep 09 17:07:15 panicking: the logic is following: your ril should deactivate all unnecessary (==not valid resume reason) unsolicited "replies" first. Sep 09 17:07:16 A5 revision Sep 09 17:07:26 ok Sep 09 17:07:29 panicking: then "echo 1 > flowcontrolled" Sep 09 17:07:34 panicking: then suspend the device. Sep 09 17:07:36 moose Sep 09 17:07:55 panicking: upon resuming you "echo 0 > flowcontrolled" and get all the messages calypso has for you. Sep 09 17:07:56 thanks Sep 09 17:08:05 perfect Sep 09 17:08:17 so the spike Sep 09 17:08:18 panicking: only this way you can ensure you don't loose important bytes from it. I can find more elaborate description if you want. Sep 09 17:08:20 that I have sometime Sep 09 17:08:23 is calypso Sep 09 17:08:36 spike Sep 09 17:08:44 I observed Sep 09 17:08:54 that sometime I have resume of the device Sep 09 17:08:57 without Sep 09 17:09:01 reason Sep 09 17:09:12 Can be flowcontrolled problem Sep 09 17:09:13 ? Sep 09 17:09:22 panicking: (audio) we never received any decent report from any user that +CLVL=255 doesn't work properly for him after adjusting alsa levels. Sep 09 17:09:24 unsol msg Sep 09 17:09:36 ok Sep 09 17:09:52 Can give again the pointer to the unsoli message Sep 09 17:09:56 in the fso Sep 09 17:10:15 panicking: for all the details and discussion about "flowcontrolled" node refer to http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/31 Sep 09 17:10:22 panicking: yes, wait Sep 09 17:11:30 panicking: the download from your server is slow, shouldn't you put your files on openmoko servers? Sep 09 17:12:06 http://git.moko.serdar-dere.net/~michael/ Sep 09 17:12:17 can you download the big file from here Sep 09 17:12:22 its okey :) Sep 09 17:12:26 already downloaded Sep 09 17:12:38 i asked not for me Sep 09 17:13:15 ok, now flashing :) Sep 09 17:13:21 hi, fyi: we designed some posters for promoting op in dzschermony: http://data.brueckenschlaeger.de/openmoko/ - your feedback is appreciated :) Sep 09 17:13:55 what do you use to create the svg's? Sep 09 17:14:27 inkscape Sep 09 17:14:48 inkscape rulez :) Sep 09 17:15:02 of course, its FOSS :) Sep 09 17:15:29 panicking: (unsol disable) for the list look at http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py;h=c86ceee43685acefcbed1e0bec5e1b382f7a51d3;hb=61cbc49eae24c245e07971f8511a4c2fd2208329 search for c = self._commands["suspend"] Sep 09 17:18:24 openmoko: 03rehar * r5624 10/trunk/gta02-core/modules/ (INFO STATUS dfbm-cs320.fpd mkloe): BT module footprint update Sep 09 17:18:42 it's wired for me to hear the word "Free", in hebrew you have diffrent word for free as "free software" and another word for free like "free ride" Sep 09 17:19:19 perfect Sep 09 17:19:31 CooL_SPoT: same in norwegian :) Sep 09 17:21:20 anroid boot is so slowwwwwww Sep 09 17:21:32 The first time Sep 09 17:21:36 is slow the Sep 09 17:21:39 second time too Sep 09 17:21:43 but it's better Sep 09 17:21:52 PaulFertser, koolu drop the android project Sep 09 17:21:57 ok, its not important Sep 09 17:22:13 yeah, the project at koolu didn't update for ages Sep 09 17:22:29 openmoko wiki should remove it from that page Sep 09 17:23:16 still loading :| Sep 09 17:23:25 wiki will remove nothing. Users have to do that :-P Sep 09 17:23:33 :) Sep 09 17:25:19 panicking: i think i got an error Sep 09 17:26:36 -- kobject_add_internal fail for pysmap-flash.0 -EEXIST, don't try to register things with the same name in the same directory. Count not initialize FIQ for GTA02 Sep 09 17:31:41 oops Sep 09 17:31:47 the message is before the boot Sep 09 17:32:04 i'm trying to boot again, didn't boot last time Sep 09 17:34:02 doesn't boot :( Sep 09 17:34:23 i flashed freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v15.jffs2 AND uImage-v15-ex1.bin Sep 09 17:34:37 that's a bit old, isn't it? Sep 09 17:34:49 thats what panicking told me i should flash Sep 09 17:35:24 it is he's images, i think he knows what he tell me Sep 09 17:35:29 :o Sep 09 17:35:49 well, I don't doubt his opinion, but I'm wondering why he's suggesting that one Sep 09 17:35:57 uImage-v24 Sep 09 17:36:10 that one is not ok Sep 09 17:36:11 :) Sep 09 17:36:13 sorry Sep 09 17:36:48 hence my question :p Sep 09 17:37:21 panicking: why do i use old cupcake snapshot? Sep 09 17:37:33 ah sorry Sep 09 17:37:36 its not old Sep 09 17:37:38 :) Sep 09 17:37:40 yes Sep 09 17:37:43 it's new Sep 09 17:37:56 panicking: (koolu) well, they were not really good members of the community anyway so to me it's irrelevant ;) Sep 09 17:38:22 paulproteus: that doesn't surprise me, but why do you say that? Sep 09 17:38:24 gah Sep 09 17:38:28 PaulFerster Sep 09 17:38:35 now lets wait again for android to load Sep 09 17:38:37 PaulFertser, too Sep 09 17:39:20 Chocky: what did koolu guys do for others? Only usb networking with windows and it wasn't their fix even, they probably just hired some dev. Sep 09 17:39:39 i should see anything on screen while it boots Sep 09 17:39:47 ? Sep 09 17:40:21 put a shiny wrapper around it - which personally makes me a bit dubios. but I don't know enough details; haven't followd Android dev for some months Sep 09 17:40:24 Chocky: and they forked Qi making it incompatible with other versions without any warning, this too doesn't get them points. Sep 09 17:40:49 panicking: it does not work :'-( Sep 09 17:40:53 I WANT ANDORID Sep 09 17:40:58 *ANDROID Sep 09 17:41:05 I can has koolu android? Sep 09 17:41:26 panicking sayed that koolu's android is outdated Sep 09 17:41:35 I'm sure it is Sep 09 17:41:39 Do you follow the instruction Sep 09 17:41:39 ? Sep 09 17:41:44 Koolu's instructions are pretty damn poor, when I tried them. Sep 09 17:41:45 from the openmoko website Sep 09 17:41:50 amm Sep 09 17:41:52 nope Sep 09 17:41:56 i will check it out Sep 09 17:41:56 I give the link Sep 09 17:41:57 wait Sep 09 17:42:20 I have bake you cookie, but I eated it Sep 09 17:42:21 my main problem with Android is that unless you modify a bunch of stuff, it needs to use internal flash _and_ SD card. Sep 09 17:42:30 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner Sep 09 17:42:32 method 2 Sep 09 17:42:34 other images Sep 09 17:42:35 :) Sep 09 17:42:47 There is a script Sep 09 17:42:52 that move all on the flash Sep 09 17:43:05 I'm sure. but it's all a bit tedious. But again, I'm not 100% up to date on this. Sep 09 17:45:52 what script? Sep 09 17:46:21 i installed it on the internal flash Sep 09 17:46:29 http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/script/ Sep 09 17:50:44 http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/26/26405/26405_2.jpg Sep 09 17:50:57 damn...he left Sep 09 17:51:06 arggggg Sep 09 17:51:25 DocScrutinizer: cute Sep 09 17:51:40 has anyone here successfully got android running solely on an SD cadr? Sep 09 17:51:43 *card Sep 09 17:53:11 http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/26/26405/26405_3.jpg Sep 09 17:55:09 He maded the skiez and da earths, but he did not eated it Sep 09 17:56:17 Android requires an sd card on both the htc hero and magick, so i guess it's best to rund it w. a sd card :-S Sep 09 17:57:07 hrm. Sep 09 17:57:20 yes, it just makes it harder to have other distros on your FR Sep 09 17:59:17 oh no. The Apple fanboi event today. Sep 09 17:59:49 ringtones for $1.29! Sep 09 18:00:16 android does not work :\ Sep 09 18:00:17 arg Sep 09 18:00:35 "cannot find /system/mountd' Sep 09 18:09:36 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r5185320016ce 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): org.freesmartphone.Device: document implemented orientation strings for org.freesmartphone.Device.Orientation.GetOrientation() Sep 09 18:40:13 is there any feedback on the posters I sent above? we would like to setup a crabgrass community site to promote the om project a bit more Sep 09 18:40:45 preferable at community.openmoko.org Sep 09 18:40:58 or sth like that :) Sep 09 18:41:33 those posters are (a) In German, and (b) a mess in Firefox 3.5, so who knows. Sep 09 18:41:42 besides, OM already has a site. why another/ Sep 09 18:45:27 Chocky: those posters a just a first draft, dont take them as finished. the reason I am here, is to get a first feedbacks if the idea kicks or not Sep 09 18:45:53 OM has a wiki and a commercial frontpage, but no community portal I think Sep 09 18:46:16 do you know crabgrass? maybe its worth a try on we.riseup.net Sep 09 18:47:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc129c5da51ba 10/fsodeviced/src/lib/resource.vala: fsodeviced: resource: enable unconditionally, if we can't communicate with fsousaged Sep 09 18:48:17 if we make it, to develop an installer to easily setup oms to endusers as fully functional mobiles and navigation devices (and more!) there is a good chance to rock the show on the mobile market the next half year Sep 09 18:48:27 uh huh Sep 09 18:48:45 * Chocky invokes SpeedEvil Sep 09 18:48:59 * ShellEvil stabs Chocky. Sep 09 18:49:13 * SpeedEvil stabs Chocky. Sep 09 18:49:17 * Chocky enjoys. more! Sep 09 18:50:14 I have no idea who's manageing the openmoko.com website Sep 09 18:50:23 haha Sep 09 18:51:06 "Blowout Sale". great. Sep 09 18:54:21 its sean@openmoko.com sitting in taiwan Sep 09 18:55:45 that's probably correct to the last letter Sep 09 18:56:15 for openmoko.org as well Sep 09 18:59:56 wtf. Something just crashed the partition table of my SD card Sep 09 19:00:47 because the partition table is a program that might segfault Sep 09 19:00:53 :o Sep 09 19:03:57 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * raaa0b4ab7681 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/accelerometer/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: accelerometer: only send signal when orientation has actually changed Sep 09 19:11:47 hmm, I guess my SD is totaly fucked Sep 09 19:12:13 I can't install android Sep 09 19:12:16 it does not work Sep 09 19:12:21 :\ Sep 09 20:08:54 defiant put it in a camera an format that card Sep 09 20:18:10 slaxxer: you think it will work after this again? Sep 09 20:46:54 interesting: my mail client managed to send two versions of my latest message to OM-Community.. Sep 09 20:49:39 maybe you must be your stuck keyboard - you typed two '.'s also Sep 09 20:50:12 :) Sep 09 23:45:13 Hi, just a quick question about the SHR User Manual. The manual says that the 20090808-om-gta02 image doesn't has opkg-cl instead of opkg and says that performing opkg update and opkg upgrade will fix it. Won't upgrading break SHR? Sep 09 23:45:41 darn, it has opkg-cl instead of opkg. Sorry for the typos Sep 09 23:46:25 shr-U: nobody never knows, will upgrade broke smth or not Sep 09 23:46:39 usually it doesn't, but sometimes... Sep 09 23:48:32 Well actually, I know for a fact that it does because I just did it. I was trying to imply that perhaps the manual should say that it has opkg-cl and just leave it at that Sep 10 00:04:13 where are the sources of odeviced? Sep 10 00:42:51 hm what happened to midori Sep 10 01:03:49 and intone... Sep 10 01:20:34 booh Sep 10 01:20:48 Hello. Sep 10 01:21:23 http://www.mauve.plus.com/fascia.jpg Sep 10 01:21:24 oops Sep 10 01:23:46 lol Sep 10 01:24:00 is this waldo down there ? Sep 10 01:24:38 That was the result of a ten minute job - according to the manual. Sep 10 01:24:51 I went to replace a heater control knob. Sep 10 01:25:03 I swore very loudly when I went to the next step, and the book said to open the second section of the dashboard - only to find that the clever nissan people had managed in the slightly newer release to mould it all in one huge lump. Sep 10 01:25:39 Fortunately the manual was also wrong - and it was possible to remove the dashboard without first removing the steering column and airbag. Sep 10 01:25:56 SpeedEvil: what car is that ? Sep 10 01:26:03 Nissan Micra Sep 10 01:26:23