**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 16 02:59:57 2009 Sep 16 04:02:56 i guess disableing gsm during opkg upgrade is a good thing? Sep 16 05:18:12 anyone know the proper uboot command to boot from nand? Sep 16 05:20:10 i'm trying to set a menu to boot the kernel from nand with loglevel=4 Sep 16 05:22:54 UndrWater: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader_commands Sep 16 05:25:08 PaulFertser: i'm there, but I can't seem to get the kernel to boot :( Sep 16 05:26:10 setenv menu_9 Loglevel Low: setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 console=ttySAC2,115200 console=tty0 loglevel=4 regular_boot Sep 16 05:26:21 does that look right? Sep 16 05:27:19 Undrwater: aren't you supposed to use quotes or the like? Sep 16 05:27:50 Undrwater: also you change only bootargs but not bootcmd, it depends on your situation if this is good or not. Sep 16 05:29:15 the above is copied from the default boot line with some changes Sep 16 05:29:50 i don't see any instances of quotes for boot lines...only esc \ for special characters Sep 16 05:30:56 i haven't seen bootcmd used anywhere either in the wiki Sep 16 05:34:54 my understanding is that i souldn't need to change bootcmd since i'm booting the same kernel with just a lower log level Sep 16 07:17:37 Why is my ssh session from Cygwin on Windows Vista to SHR-U on my FR painfully unresponsive? :( I had to run ssh twice just to log in because the connection timed out the first time. Sep 16 07:25:11 brolin_: who knows... Sep 16 07:25:33 brolin_: experienced showed that there're not many people interested in windows interoperability for g_ether. Sep 16 07:25:43 s/ced/ce/ Sep 16 07:25:44 PaulFertser meant: brolin_: experience showed that there're not many people interested in windows interoperability for g_ether. Sep 16 07:29:12 PaulFertser: I tried sshing to my FR from my Ubuntu PC before my Vista PC, but I could not connect from Ubuntu. I forgot the details; I would have to try again to tell you what happens. Sep 16 07:30:43 I no longer have a console on k7t266 (my Ubuntu PC), so I have to ssh to k7t266 from Cygwin on Windows Vista on optiplex960. Sep 16 07:38:28 brolin_: hm, i thought you're geeky enough to be able to ssh easily from ubuntu to FR ;) Sep 16 07:41:39 brolin_: sorry, i really can't help you here with your w vista problem :-/ Sep 16 07:54:51 PaulFertser: I am evidently geeky enough to b0rk my network by trying to configure eth1 on Ubuntu the same as Vista's Neo connection. When I run ifconfig to configure eth1, my Internet connection goes down, I lose the connection from optiplex960 to k7t266, and I can no longer resolve k7t266, so I have to ssh to k7t266's IP address instead of its hostname so I can run "screen -dr" again so I can write this. :o Sep 16 07:57:04 ive not been paying attention to the convo but couldn't you just bridge everything onto the network? Sep 16 07:57:09 thats what i do Sep 16 07:57:50 much easier than trying to set up routing etc Sep 16 07:58:24 Psi: I should stop procrastinating and buy a USB cable to connect my FR to a USB hub so I can connect USB peripherals, such as a USB -> Ethernet adapter, to my FR, so I can connect my FR directly to my Ethernet LAN. Sep 16 07:59:12 I need to buy another USB hub too. Sep 16 08:08:05 SHR-U lite's GUI cannot even connect to an access point, so I have to use the wired LAN to upgrade to SHR-U full, but the ssh connection is very unresponsive when I ssh to my FR from Cygwin on Windows Vista. I cannot ssh to my FR at all from Ubuntu, so I either have to play more with Ethernet over USB, which is annoying, or buy the proper USB cable and hub so I can connect my FR directly to my Ethernet LAN. Sep 16 08:08:54 If I connect my USB -> Ethernet adapter to my FR, will SHR-U automatically use DHCP to configure the USB eth interface, or would that be asking far too much? :P Sep 16 08:10:22 Anyway, I need to go to bed so I can get up so I can spend at least 8 hours of my life at work again so I can earn some more money. :( Sep 16 08:11:46 I know the feeling ;o) Sep 16 11:02:32 what is the difference between Illume and Illume SHR profiles when I start SHR for the first time? Sep 16 11:06:27 yes, i suggest illume-shr Sep 16 11:07:16 okay thx Sep 16 12:23:01 openmoko: 03daveb * r5642 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (3 files in 2 dirs): components/ntgd1100l.lib clean up, internal function depiction, proper pin labeling. Sep 16 14:09:50 openmoko: 03daveb * r5643 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (components/gta02_power.lib modem.sch pmu.sch): clariffy that the "VBAT" is for the GSM modem - now "VBAT_GSM" Sep 16 15:32:25 Hi, just out of curiosity: I read about the Neo series and was wondering, if there are any news about GTA03/GTA04 development? Will there ever be a successor to the neo freerunner? Sep 16 15:32:49 Its looking very unlikely - from openmoko. Sep 16 15:33:01 There is a GTA02-core community lead effort Sep 16 15:33:43 Which looks very interesting - but will need some form of funding, which is unclear where it'd come from. Sep 16 15:34:23 Openmoko is in no position to tackle the development of another smart phone, even if they wanted to. Sep 16 15:34:52 so don't hold your breath Sep 16 15:34:55 I'm unsure what the actual position of the corporate body - health - ... is Sep 16 15:35:15 SpeedEvil, thx for sharing the info! although I havent used one yet, it seems like a very nice project. sad thing openmoko couldn't continue it.. Sep 16 15:36:11 The freerunner is still available, and in production. Sep 16 15:44:05 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rba51dd14ae17 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Sep 16 15:44:05 freesmartphone.org: add gio-2.0, which is necessary for the async methods Sep 16 15:44:05 freesmartphone.org: still doesn't compile though due to Vala bugs ('result_length1' and friends not declared...) Sep 16 17:26:35 freesmartphone.org: 03zimmermann 07framework * rc5ce1a2d7093 10/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sqlite_dates.py: Sep 16 17:26:35 freesmartphone.org: opimd: Dates: fix copy and paste error Sep 16 17:26:35 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak Sep 16 17:48:17 is it just me or is navit not in the shr-unstable repo? Sep 16 17:59:41 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r935c89fa7478 10/fsodeviced/src/plugins/alsa_audio/plugin.vala: fsodeviced: create scenario queue before using it Sep 16 19:02:24 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r4f5fe6c8985f 10/fsogsmd/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: play with coroutines Sep 16 19:40:34 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rf2b048919874 10/src/ (4 files): regenerate Sep 16 20:31:26 how to install ffmpeg on SHR Sep 16 20:47:29 Hi, when I try to connect my PC to my moko running SHR I get an error message, do I have to install a client app or change a setting on my phone ? Sep 16 20:47:58 Bert_2: be more specific please Sep 16 20:48:38 PaulFertser: how do I pair my openMoko running shr-unstable in a bluetooth network Sep 16 20:48:49 PaulFertser: sorry, forgot to mention bluetooth, very stupid Sep 16 20:49:02 Bert_2: what's up with "Manually using bluetooth" page on the wiki? Sep 16 20:49:24 PaulFertser: I wasn't sure whether it's still up to date Sep 16 20:49:25 Bert_2: i mean i've written instructions there which work for me without any problems. Sep 16 20:49:39 PaulFertser: you mean http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Using ? Sep 16 20:49:45 Bert_2: bluez4 stuff is up-to-date, bluez3 stuff is clearly marked as such. Sep 16 20:49:50 Bert_2: of course not Sep 16 20:50:00 Bert_2: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth Sep 16 20:50:45 PaulFertser: okey, and there's no nice GUI yet, like mokonnect for wifi and usb networks ? Sep 16 20:51:27 Bert_2: Blueman Sep 16 20:51:32 Bert_2: as specified on the wiki Sep 16 20:52:24 PaulFertser: sorry, can't read that fast Sep 16 20:52:28 Bert_2: hehe Sep 16 20:57:13 PaulFertser: blueman is not in the shr repo, this is going to get complex... Sep 16 20:57:48 Bert_2: i know, just use the manual method Sep 16 21:00:56 PaulFertser: compile it on the FR ? Sep 16 21:01:34 Bert_2: tbh i don't see much sense in it when there's simple manual method, esp. given you're at home and can use usb networking to setup it manually once. Sep 16 21:02:24 PaulFertser: ow, it's just a one time edit, I guessed I had to re-do most things as soon as I turned off the bluetooth modem/services Sep 16 21:02:56 Bert_2: trust and pairing are permanent Sep 16 21:03:51 PaulFertser: and what parts of the tutorial do I have to follow if I want to pair my phone and computer so that they can share files and so my moko can update ? Sep 16 21:04:25 It's kind of confusing with all the different sub-parts :S Sep 16 21:04:26 Bert_2: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Information_about_bluez4_networking Sep 16 21:04:30 Bert_2: obviously Sep 16 21:05:14 hi guys...is possible to force check of sd card after reboot? Sep 16 21:07:37 Majkhii: I guess so, as it's possible on a linux desktop Sep 16 21:07:52 ill try shutdown -rF Sep 16 21:08:16 Majkhii: on your pc do "grep fsck /etc/init.d/* Sep 16 21:08:18 Majkhii: perhaps http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_tune2fs.htm Sep 16 21:15:53 thx all Sep 16 21:48:16 Hi guys, how are you Sep 16 21:51:57 I've heard a lot of Paroli and I want to install it on my FR with SHR-U Sep 16 21:52:23 and I'm following these instructions:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli#Paroli_on_SHR_unstable Sep 16 21:52:40 i have a doubt here: Sep 16 21:52:40 cp /etc/old_frameworkd.conf /etc/frameworkd.conf Sep 16 21:53:18 I don't have de old_frameworkd.conf file on etc, I've suppossed to backup these file before install paroli? Sep 16 21:53:40 or is just the command cp parameters in wrong order Sep 16 22:23:20 someone out there? Sep 17 00:55:28 sleepy time? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 17 02:59:57 2009