**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 17 02:59:57 2009 Sep 17 05:51:56 what do you have to do on the latest shr to get mp3's to play Sep 17 05:55:56 Psi: what's the error message? Sep 17 05:56:47 not sure yet, i just noticed that adding mp3s for ringtone/message didnt work Sep 17 05:56:53 play button does nothing Sep 17 05:57:21 tried intone and mp3 files were gray, like there was no codec Sep 17 05:58:16 then try to install gst-plugin-mad Sep 17 05:59:06 installing Sep 17 06:01:38 mplayer is playing them fine Sep 17 06:02:28 mplayer doesn't use gstreamer Sep 17 06:11:20 gst-plugin-mad installed fine Sep 17 06:11:28 but didnt solve the problem Sep 17 06:13:09 * Psi does upgrade Sep 17 06:13:11 then install gst-plugin-audioconvert, gst-plugin-autodetect and gst-plugin-alsa Sep 17 06:20:08 nope Sep 17 07:33:38 opkg upgrade fixed the mp3 issue Sep 17 07:33:45 * Psi goes to have dinner Sep 17 08:55:25 How do i change the illume theme on SHR on the command line? Sep 17 09:06:50 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * ra8df283d7bcc 10/configure.ac: bump version and vala requirement Sep 17 09:06:51 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r72dd8e944b54 10/src/Makefile.am: fix make dist Sep 17 09:06:52 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07vala-dbus-binding-tool * r0f8d067fc68c 10/ (Makefile.am configure.ac vala-dbus-binding-tool-1.0.pc.in): create and install .pc file, so we can easily track the version Sep 17 09:06:57 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rd64caf1c03b1 10/configure.ac: add checks for minimum vala and vala-dbus-binding-tool versions Sep 17 09:07:02 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rc839568664a2 10/misc-vapi/vapi/ (9 files): misc-vapi: rmeove vapi files that are now in Vala upstream (scheduled for release in 0.7.6) Sep 17 09:07:04 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9b4ae766410e 10/libfsobasics/ (configure.ac fsobasics/Makefile.am fsobasics/utilities.vala): Sep 17 09:07:05 freesmartphone.org: libfsobasics: catch up with inclusion of linux.vapi upstream vala Sep 17 09:07:07 freesmartphone.org: This is version 0.8.3 Sep 17 09:07:09 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r237f691ecdec 10/libfsotransport/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Sep 17 09:07:12 freesmartphone.org: libfsotransport: catch up with inclusion of linux.vapi Vala upstream Sep 17 09:07:14 freesmartphone.org: This is version 0.9.5 Sep 17 09:07:16 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r7a5e0de104e8 10/libfsobasics/ (configure.ac fsobasics/fsobasics-2.0.deps): libfsobasics: post-release version bump Sep 17 09:07:19 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * rd973fc325c3d 10/libfsotransport/ (configure.ac fsotransport/fsotransport-2.0.deps): libfsotransport: post-release version bump Sep 17 09:07:22 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r994a23e3a9b2 10/libfsoframework/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Sep 17 09:07:31 freesmartphone.org: libfsoframework: catch up with inclusion of linux.vapi and alsa.vapi Vala upstream Sep 17 09:07:33 freesmartphone.org: This is version 0.2.3 Sep 17 09:07:35 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r26ecdd62d145 10/ (6 files in 6 dirs): all: bump version requirements Sep 17 09:29:38 hello all.. i've got just a small question.. what's better, jffs2 or ubifs? Sep 17 09:31:08 jffs2 is used more widely i believe Sep 17 09:31:24 yeah, i think that also Sep 17 09:31:51 but if it's more used, it's not must be better i think.. Sep 17 09:32:08 (windows is also the most often used system :) ) Sep 17 09:32:28 yes i know Sep 17 09:32:55 i don't know much about filesystems, i'm just putting in my two cents Sep 17 09:33:03 i have not managed to get the shr ubifs image to work but that could be something i did Sep 17 09:34:12 i have never tried Sep 17 09:37:28 http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubifs.html Sep 17 09:37:40 look like it's faster.. Sep 17 09:39:23 skamster, yes it is Sep 17 09:39:24 but i also don't know exactly.. Sep 17 09:39:32 so it's recommended? Sep 17 09:39:37 or is it unstable? Sep 17 09:40:15 its not stable on 2.6.29 as I know Sep 17 09:41:34 ah, oke.. Sep 17 09:41:40 and on 2.6.31? Sep 17 09:41:59 i think, a little bit more speed would be nice for the moko Sep 17 09:42:00 :) Sep 17 09:42:17 but I think you can try it, just co,pile your own kernel Sep 17 09:42:17 30,31,etc is fine Sep 17 09:43:32 mmh, is this necessary? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-full-glibc-ipk--20090906-om-gta02.ubifs.img Sep 17 09:43:52 there is already an shr which is in ubifs.. Sep 17 09:44:06 may this is flashable with dfu-util ? Sep 17 09:44:14 oh, if they started generate images, I should switch to ubifs! Sep 17 09:45:14 mmh, yeah, i also think to this.. but does qi support ubifs? and is dfu-util depending on the fs or is this not important for it? Sep 17 09:45:22 yes Sep 17 09:45:33 yes on which question? :) Sep 17 09:45:48 heh Sep 17 09:46:00 about dfu-util Sep 17 09:46:41 but don't forget change rootfstype on uboot if you use it Sep 17 09:47:01 about qi - ask PaulFertser Sep 17 09:47:22 dfu-util don't care Sep 17 09:48:17 where could i change the rootfstype in uboot? Sep 17 09:48:40 must i compile my own uboot-version? Sep 17 09:54:48 norro, just param Sep 17 09:55:04 rootfstype=jffs2 current Sep 17 09:55:23 should be rootfstype=ubifs Sep 17 09:55:48 in which file? sorry, i never configured uboot.. in the append-file? Sep 17 10:03:05 appendfile won't help with boot from nand I think Sep 17 10:03:13 check the docs Sep 17 10:32:26 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07libfso-glib * rfd8c1b03f0bf 10/configure.ac: removed too much Sep 17 11:18:09 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r98b4f092994c 10/libfsobasics/fsobasics-2.0.pc.in: libfsobasics: remove unnecessary dependencies from pkgconfig file Sep 17 11:18:10 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2aaffef24d2a 10/fsogsmd/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: remove debug output, async coroutines seem to work now with Vala master Sep 17 11:40:53 ciao Sep 17 11:40:59 !list Sep 17 11:46:23 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r9b4a6f6c7fe9 10/fsogsmd/src/ (lib/commandqueue.vala plugins/gsm_device/plugin.vala): fsogsmd: use libfso-glib, since it compiles again Sep 17 11:51:52 ? Sep 17 11:54:10 hmm beer, the ultimate irc nick Sep 17 12:00:06 :) Sep 17 12:36:26 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07phonesim * raba58bc72503 10/ (Makefile lib/lib.pro): remove bogus Makefile and bogus entries in lib.pro Sep 17 12:49:45 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r73ceb647eda0 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/ (7 files): libfsotransport: split transport.vala into multiple files Sep 17 13:15:43 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r31ff6e1e97d7 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/ (fsotransport-2.0.vapi socket.vala transport.vala): libfsotransport: start with socket transportation Sep 17 13:47:20 wtf ? The lists are now dating channels ? Sep 17 13:53:04 really? I should join them Sep 17 14:41:28 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r8ac495b1b5e2 10/libfsotransport/fsotransport/socket.vala: libfsotransport: socket communication now basically works Sep 17 14:41:38 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07fso-term * rffc42a568b5d 10/src/terminal.vala: add preliminary support for unix|tcp|udp sockets Sep 17 15:26:26 skamster: afaik PaulFertser pointed out ubifs doesn't work at all atm Sep 17 15:27:01 ah, ok... but there's a new chance with the new kernels? Sep 17 15:27:04 PaulFertser: he recommended to remove the *.ubifs files from SHR download site Sep 17 15:27:46 PaulFertser: setting rootfs type is a matter of changing uboot env Sep 17 15:29:28 err, Sep 17 15:29:32 skamster: ^^ Sep 17 15:30:30 skamster: I don't know any more details Sep 17 15:30:39 oke.. :) Sep 17 15:31:11 i think, it's strange, if ubifs should be stable in the 30/31-versions, but also be faster.. Sep 17 15:46:11 skamster: i know whom to ask Sep 17 15:46:24 skamster: naeg from Archlinux finally managed to build a proper image. Sep 17 15:46:35 skamster: i'm afraid he didn't repart the results yet. Sep 17 15:46:46 skamster: so ubifs works but we build it wrong Sep 17 15:50:48 BTW, guys, i was at ARM developers conference today. Talked a little with guys from ARM, Marvel, ST and others. Was interesting enough. Sep 17 15:51:09 lindi-: i got two http://www.stm32circle.com/ (stm32 primer2) there for free for my students :D Sep 17 15:51:47 stm32 is fun. Sep 17 15:51:53 * SpeedEvil has one Sep 17 15:52:02 The guys from ARM told about some very cool stuff about advanced debugging facilities in Cortex-M3 and they told me that all the specs are open and can be implemented in free software. Sep 17 15:52:03 the circle Sep 17 15:52:20 I like the rs232 bootloader :) Sep 17 15:52:44 Also they told me that the new video core they promote has a standard OpenGL ES interface. Sep 17 15:52:53 Intersting Sep 17 15:53:02 PaulFertser: but the peobles from shr does it build the right way? Sep 17 15:53:17 (or is "we" now also shr?) Sep 17 15:53:29 skamster: people from shr do not build ubifs image the right way. Sep 17 15:53:36 ah, ok Sep 17 15:54:05 bummer Sep 17 15:54:27 SpeedEvil: and in fact i enjoyed the conversations, those folks didn't make me feel uncomfortable (despite the fact i look almost as some loosy but probably smart hippy). Sep 17 15:55:48 PaulFertser: this was what - ARM - the company - or one of the implementors of ARM? Sep 17 15:57:49 SpeedEvil: i talked with two folks from ARM the company and with one cool guy from STMicroeletronics. Also with one from Marvel. I asked him why they do not push drivers for their wifi solutions upstream. He said that it takes too long comparing to 9 months development lifecycle and that his e.g. wife doesn't necessarily want to update the kernel all the time :) Sep 17 15:58:14 PaulFertser: indeed.. ARM is quite a relaxed place to work (i did a summer project there in 2004) Sep 17 15:59:29 all the people are quite friendly Sep 17 16:02:40 Weiss: that is a bit surprising to me given they basically sell what we used to call Imaginary Property. Sep 17 16:13:29 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * r6bf821c00cb5 10/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Sep 17 16:13:29 freesmartphone.org: ousaged: add signal handler for ResourceChanged Sep 17 16:13:29 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Sep 17 16:28:04 openmoko: 03rehar * r5644 10/trunk/gta02-core/modules/ (lis302dl.fpd wm8753fl.fpd): added solder mask layer to LIS302DL and WM8753FL footprint Sep 17 17:09:51 hey, is gprs working well with shr-u on neo? (with "well" i mean "without too many problems") Sep 17 18:09:51 agg1n: it works very well for me. Sep 17 18:10:18 agg1n: without any problems. just one button and it's on Sep 17 18:28:12 SpeedEvil: looks like i'm somehow was too optimistic: can't find a way to flash the toy :( Sep 17 18:55:40 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r2ffccbf54f41 10/fsogsmd/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: fix the logic bug with command sequences. command loop now works async and again *phew* Sep 17 19:42:55 RANJAN is just insane :S Sep 17 20:02:36 toy? Sep 17 20:04:29 SpeedEvil: STM32 Primer2 Sep 17 20:08:48 ah Sep 17 20:09:08 I forget how flashing it actually works Sep 17 20:09:24 it's been a while - and I have the primer1 Sep 17 20:15:02 SpeedEvil: with primer1 there's an integrated rlink debug tool but it's connected via JTAG. How to use this was RE by some cool guys and now there's support for jtag over rlink in openocd. Primer2 has SWD connected to rlink instead. Sep 17 20:24:11 PaulFertser: the Primer stuff looks interesting.. how much do they cost and where do they come from? Sep 17 20:26:45 I assume you got an answer Weiss? Sep 17 20:26:59 Weiss: i was told that Primer2 is $50-60 in retail. I personally got two of them for free after friendly talk with ST representative and mentioning i'm going to use give them to my students for educational projects. Sep 17 20:27:13 SpeedEvil1: with primer1 there's an integrated rlink debug tool but it's connected via JTAG. How to use this was RE by some cool guys and now there's support for jtag over rlink in openocd. Primer2 has SWD connected to rlink instead. Sep 17 20:27:19 ST as in STMicroelectronics? Sep 17 20:27:35 Weiss: yes Sep 17 20:27:35 yes Sep 17 20:28:30 SpeedEvil1: in fact rlink is not a problem after it was reversed. But it's a shame OpenOCD doesn't support SWD at all and that's after more than 2 years of Cortex-M3 on the market with fully documented and opened protocol :( Sep 17 20:28:47 :/ Sep 17 20:30:10 SpeedEvil: also there're some quite interesting debugging facilities (e.g. looking at pin voltage real-time) integrated in M3, also documented and available but obviously not implemented in free software. Sep 17 20:30:24 yeah Sep 17 20:59:03 any GUI for video player Sep 17 21:01:21 [22:59] UberNeo: http://www.opkg.org/package_203.html Sep 17 21:01:28 [22:59] UberNeo: intone-video in shr feeds Sep 17 21:01:36 thanx Sep 17 21:02:13 how do you check for updates/upgrades of shr-unstable? Sep 17 21:02:30 actually i installed deforaos-player ..but dont know where it got installed ..it doesnt gv any icon ..not in /usr/bin Sep 17 21:04:05 UberNeo: take a look in /usr/share/applications Sep 17 21:04:13 maybe the categorie isn't set right Sep 17 21:04:44 maybe /usr/share/applications/player.desktop Sep 17 21:04:56 gonna read something and hit the sack now, good luck Sep 17 21:05:29 its not there Sep 17 22:17:04 <_phil> does anyone know if the om-2.6.31 is meant to be usable?! :) Sep 17 22:17:28 <_phil> +kernel branch Sep 17 22:33:43 I'm sure its meant to be Sep 17 22:33:51 try it and find out if it actually is Sep 17 22:39:17 <_phil> its not, some glamo header are missing Sep 17 22:41:56 not quite ready yet, but nearly Sep 17 22:42:04 i think larsc is a bit stuck for time at the moment Sep 17 22:44:07 <_phil> alright, then i'll wait ... Sep 17 22:51:20 freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07cornucopia * r60efdc42ac28 10/fsogsmd/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fsogsmd: remove async debug output again Sep 18 00:04:06 my partner bought an iPhone with a new sim and needs to pull off contacts from old sim and import them to th enew sim, can I do that on the neo easily ? with shr-u or is there a better way Sep 18 00:47:46 openmoko: 03rehar * r5645 10/trunk/gta02-core/modules/ (STATUS exc24c.fpd mkloe): added filter EXC24C footprint Sep 18 01:05:16 is it possible to use th eneo to transfer contacts from one sim to another ? Sep 18 01:20:33 Hi guys, what's up? Sep 18 01:21:45 hey Cristianpark Sep 18 01:22:24 my latest shr-u upgrade shows ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for fsousaged: * libfso-glib0 (>= 0.2.1+gitr47+7608c8d98bb65bb5beca6621eb86920b71df1bc9) Sep 18 01:26:18 I've just did the same update and have no errors, besides one given by the use of Paroli and making calls with the SHR utilities Sep 18 01:26:40 * besides=apart of Sep 18 01:31:03 hmm, I have just flashed the lite image and done update && upgrade Sep 18 01:36:00 I'm afraid I can't help you, I'm just too noob with the FR and I'm learning about SHR Sep 18 01:41:40 I have a question about Paroli on SHR, can I disable it without uninstall it? Sep 18 01:42:49 it says that if I close it and prevent it to run on background it will be make no available calls Sep 18 01:52:37 anyone know what's up with the qtmoko wiki? it's down Sep 18 01:56:16 Drascus: Apparently http://qtmoko.org has hosting issues. Apertum said this in the mail-list: Sep 18 01:56:16 BTW: the http://qtmoko.org page is closed (Bandwidth Limit Exceeded) :-( Sep 18 01:56:16 It's not possibile to transfer the page on a server with unlimited Sep 18 01:56:16 bandwidth ? Sep 18 01:56:16 Anyone has a server to donate? Sep 18 01:56:17 Do you need some donations to pay the hosting service? Sep 18 01:56:19 I think we, qtmoko users, can pay some euros for this :-) Sep 18 01:57:19 well I am installing qtmoko now but I am a little in the dark with no wiki Sep 18 01:57:45 Why didn't they just put it up on the openmoko wiki site Sep 18 02:06:28 hipitihop: I've missed the error on the output of the SHR upgrade. I have same error as you Sep 18 02:10:26 Cristianpark: ok thanks, in a way that is good Sep 18 02:22:54 hipitihop: Sad but true.....now we're two Sep 18 02:42:12 happy to report though that I managed to use pisi to pull contacts from a qt db file and into a vcf file so my partner can now import to her iphone. For some reason could not pull direct off sim but maybe because it is not active anymore **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 18 02:59:56 2009