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Sep 22 03:03:23 <Cristianpark> Hi guys.....I recently install SHR on the NAND Memory, previously installed on MicroSD and I getting this error when I try to upgrade with opkg upgrade
Sep 22 03:03:50 <Cristianpark> Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for fsousaged: *  libfso-glib0 (>= 0.2.1+gitr47+7608c8d98bb65bb5beca6621eb86920b71df1bc9) * 
Sep 22 03:05:03 <Cristianpark> someone has experienced this too?
Sep 22 03:05:15 <Cristianpark> any idea how to solve it?
Sep 22 03:14:38 <hipitihop> hey Cristianpark, snap
Sep 22 03:17:09 <Cristianpark> Time Stamp: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:34:21 +0200
Sep 22 03:17:39 <Cristianpark> And Kernel: Linux om-gta02 2.6.29-rc3 #1 PREEMPT Sun Aug 16 22:19:46 CEST 2009 armv4tl unknown
Sep 22 03:43:32 <Cristianpark> http://tinypaste.com/0111ecc
Sep 22 03:43:42 <Cristianpark> there is the complete error
Sep 22 03:44:13 <Cristianpark> I'll review your answers tomorrow, thanks for your help
Sep 22 03:44:29 <Cristianpark> have Free Dreams......see you
Sep 22 04:15:20 <vegyraupe> a good (early) morning everyone :)
Sep 22 04:55:35 <dklight> hi
Sep 22 04:55:45 <dklight> i need some help to flash a neo1973
Sep 22 04:55:50 <dklight> anyone?
Sep 22 04:56:52 <beer__> maybe http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner ?
Sep 22 04:57:38 <dklight> yea
Sep 22 04:58:22 <dklight> i have some trouble finding the correct rootfs image for my gta1_vb4 device
Sep 22 04:58:49 <dklight> the problem is that i dont know what is the correct one
Sep 22 04:59:09 <beer__> what disotr have you been looking at?
Sep 22 04:59:17 <beer__> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download
Sep 22 04:59:26 <beer__> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
Sep 22 04:59:31 <dklight> just the default, to start
Sep 22 05:00:03 <dklight> i have been looking in http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.12/
Sep 22 05:00:22 <dklight> but the only rootfs image seems to be for the gta2
Sep 22 05:00:35 <dklight> i think that is the freerunner?
Sep 22 05:01:11 <beer__> yes it is 
Sep 22 05:01:41 <beer__> and there is no image from 2009 either 
Sep 22 05:01:48 <dklight> so i surfed the dirs looking for some other gta01_bv4 rootfs
Sep 22 05:02:01 <dklight> it doasnt mather if is an older image
Sep 22 05:02:19 <dklight> at this point i only want to have my cell restored :(
Sep 22 05:02:49 <beer__> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta01/ <- shr has still support for gta01
Sep 22 05:03:04 <beer__> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR
Sep 22 05:03:35 <dklight> ok
Sep 22 05:03:39 <dklight> i will read this
Sep 22 05:03:41 <dklight> thanks
Sep 22 05:03:56 <beer__> np
Sep 22 05:08:22 <dklight> have you installed debian in one of this?
Sep 22 05:08:30 <dklight> looks to be a little mor complicated
Sep 22 05:08:36 <dklight> is it?
Sep 22 05:09:34 <beer__> I have never done it myself (installing debian) becouse it looks complicated. One of my friends tried and it took around 8 hours but that was back in the days when the freerunner was just releaseed
Sep 22 05:10:13 <dklight> ok
Sep 22 05:10:18 <beer__> myself I using qtmoko (debian image) or SH un my freerunner (switching from time to time to see how they improve)
Sep 22 05:10:47 <dklight> i think shr is the best way :/
Sep 22 05:11:14 <dklight> the worst thing is that it is not my own phone
Sep 22 05:11:28 <dklight> its of a friend :S
Sep 22 05:11:30 <tomcatek> SHR is the fastest developed distro for FR
Sep 22 05:11:43 <tomcatek> and it works well
Sep 22 05:11:53 <dklight> tomcatek: i have a neo1973
Sep 22 05:11:56 <beer__> I have never heard of somebrokes he phone bfreo with falshing a root image
Sep 22 05:12:47 <dklight> i start updating with opkg
Sep 22 05:12:56 <dklight> the flash got full
Sep 22 05:13:10 <dklight> i panick, restarted the phone
Sep 22 05:13:12 <dklight> and...
Sep 22 05:13:23 <tomcatek> dklight: soltys wos testing gta01 with SHR, and it wos working. there are some issues while connecting USB cable
Sep 22 05:13:44 <dklight> issues? ie?
Sep 22 05:13:57 <tomcatek> dklight: it hanges up :)
Sep 22 05:14:04 <dklight> ouch
Sep 22 05:14:07 <beer__> dfu-util is also a nice way to flash
Sep 22 05:14:12 <beer__> sudo dfu-util -a kernel -R -D name-of-file.bin
Sep 22 05:14:18 <beer__> sudo dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D name-of-file.jffs2
Sep 22 05:14:38 <dklight> i was trying this, but without any succes witha gta2 image
Sep 22 05:14:42 <dklight> oviously
Sep 22 05:15:17 <dklight> i feel like swimming with sharks :S
Sep 22 05:16:12 <tomcatek> hehehe
Sep 22 05:16:42 <tomcatek> gta02 have much more memory
Sep 22 05:17:00 <tomcatek> try installing SHR on uSD
Sep 22 05:18:43 <dklight> i think ill start trying with the standard SHR in the internal flash
Sep 22 05:19:04 <tomcatek> "standard" = gta01 image?
Sep 22 05:19:18 <dklight> yes
Sep 22 05:20:27 <dklight> ive almost downloaded shr-lite-glibc-ipk--20090906-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2
Sep 22 05:20:41 <dklight> with the uImage-2.6.29-oe11+gitr119844+a3587e4ed77974adfb057af261aaeea4022018e8-r3.5-om-gta01.bin kernel
Sep 22 05:23:36 <tomcatek> dklight: keep us informed :]
Sep 22 05:36:08 <dklight> ok, ive flashed both rootfs and kernel
Sep 22 05:36:31 <dklight> i can just restart the device now?
Sep 22 05:39:16 <dklight> jojo
Sep 22 05:39:25 <dklight> seems to be working
Sep 22 05:49:40 <dklight> thanks tomcatek!
Sep 22 05:50:02 <dklight> i have my phone again + a lot of useful experience!
Sep 22 05:50:59 <dklight> ill be trying other distros from this part of the world
Sep 22 05:51:06 <dklight> greetings from uruguay!
Sep 22 06:28:05 <blindcoder> is there an alternative to opimd-contacts already?
Sep 22 08:58:40 <badcloud> anyone here use openmoko-dates? I'm having trouble importing my ics file
Sep 22 08:59:19 <badcloud> the appointment times are correct, but they're displayed two hours too early on the calendar
Sep 22 08:59:34 <viq> time zone settings "Somewhere"
Sep 22 08:59:44 <badcloud> time zone setting is fine
Sep 22 08:59:59 <badcloud> at least 'date' is displaying it fine
Sep 22 09:00:00 <viq> in ical? in openmoko-dates?
Sep 22 09:00:19 <badcloud> in openmoko-dates... where's that?
Sep 22 09:00:24 <viq> and does date properly display the time zone you're in?
Sep 22 09:00:37 <viq> hell if I know, just saying that all parts need to be aware of time zone
Sep 22 09:00:58 <badcloud> 'date' does
Sep 22 09:01:15 <badcloud> apparently openmoko-dates doesn't
Sep 22 10:13:36 <mortenlysgaard> is the 20090808 still the recomended?
Sep 22 10:46:37 <DocScrutinizer-8> rumor has it 20090906 is ok as well
Sep 22 10:49:13 <twotwenty> SHR is kinda like the main line openmoko distro right now?
Sep 22 10:50:01 <DocScrutinizer-8> err, what should I say? What's mainline anyway?
Sep 22 10:51:10 <DocScrutinizer-8> SHR seems what a lot of users prefer
Sep 22 10:52:46 <DocScrutinizer-8> and SHR has become reference platform for FSO framework
Sep 22 10:53:42 <DocScrutinizer-8> OM (the company) seems out of SW business 
Sep 22 11:08:24 <SpeedEvil> DocScrutinizer: I'm betting they are really not, and will pop up with a revolutionary UI in 3 months, based on a USB ASR-33.
Sep 22 11:20:20 <DocScrutinizer-8> SpeedEvil: lol
Sep 22 11:21:22 * SpeedEvil goes back to coding http-compressor.
Sep 22 11:23:04 <DocScrutinizer-8> SpeedEvil: I seem to remember there's a thing like http-compression already?
Sep 22 11:23:13 <SpeedEvil> yeah. 
Sep 22 11:23:15 <SpeedEvil> It sucks.
Sep 22 11:23:34 <SpeedEvil> There are about 8 ways to do it all of which suck.
Sep 22 11:23:42 <DocScrutinizer-8> hehehehe
Sep 22 11:23:57 <DocScrutinizer-8> http://heise.de
Sep 22 11:24:10 <SpeedEvil> I've not seen the variant I'm trying, which involves a large cache on the device, with a matching identical cache on the proxy
Sep 22 11:24:27 <DocScrutinizer-8> iirc they implemented compression years ago, which really made a huge difference
Sep 22 11:24:58 <DocScrutinizer-8> ooh, proxy supported compression
Sep 22 11:25:09 <DocScrutinizer-8> that's a different story
Sep 22 11:26:08 <SpeedEvil> go to ebay.com twice, and you get pages which differ by 500 or so bytes every time. But every time they're different. just compress the page, and you get to 15K or so. Send compressed diffs, and you can get under 200 bytes.
Sep 22 11:26:54 <DocScrutinizer-8> sounds like youshould base on rsync code ;-)
Sep 22 11:27:25 <SpeedEvil> rsync + large RTT links?
Sep 22 11:27:55 <DocScrutinizer-8> RTT?
Sep 22 11:28:11 <SpeedEvil> rsync is also not as efficient as it has to negotiate the differences. But if the proxy has already sent the device the file against which it's diffing - that is insane.
Sep 22 11:28:14 <SpeedEvil> Round trip time
Sep 22 11:30:09 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: I studied something like that
Sep 22 11:30:38 <SpeedEvil> The big disadvantage is that for a commercial or multi-user proxy you need to store 100 meg of context or more per device.
Sep 22 11:30:46 <mjr> I wrote a bit of python that did the split-after->-and-send-line-ranges thing
Sep 22 11:31:02 <mjr> didn't get the networking stuff working and got tired of it
Sep 22 11:31:08 <mjr> made it greedy for lower latency
Sep 22 11:31:47 <mjr> was better than rsync for relevant stuff
Sep 22 11:31:48 <SpeedEvil> Yeah - latency is another big issue - if you know that the client hasn't seen a new page, and will automatically download it on seeing the URL you are providing - you can just push it.
Sep 22 11:31:53 <Fox_Muldr> hi, is there anywhere a newer libfso-glib0 (>=0 0.2.1) for shr to install? because of the dependency from fsousaged i can't upgrade shr anymore since a few days. or should i just wait a bit with upgrading until this is solved?
Sep 22 11:33:51 <mjr> I can dig my code up from somewhere if someone likes
Sep 22 11:34:11 <DocScrutinizer-8> Fox_Muldr: the advisory word of maintainers: "ignore it. It doesn't break anything"
Sep 22 11:34:16 <mjr> I'm probably not gonna have the energy to continue
Sep 22 11:34:28 <SpeedEvil> mjr: if it's easy to get to - might be interesting to look at.
Sep 22 11:34:34 <Fox_Muldr> ok so i have to upgrade with force option?
Sep 22 11:34:51 <SpeedEvil> mjr: Though I can't promise to actually do anything with it.
Sep 22 11:35:07 <DocScrutinizer-8> Fox_Muldr: aiui just ignore the warning
Sep 22 11:35:16 <SpeedEvil> mjr: currently I'm trying to work out the absolutely laziest way to do this.
Sep 22 11:35:36 <DocScrutinizer-8> dos1: PING!!!
Sep 22 11:35:54 <Fox_Muldr> DocScrutinizer: tnx for the hint :)
Sep 22 11:35:55 <dos1> DocScrutinizer-8: pong?
Sep 22 11:36:02 <DocScrutinizer-8> ^
Sep 22 11:36:10 <dos1> Fox_Muldr: yup, just ignore it, it doesn't change anything with upgrading
Sep 22 11:37:18 <dos1> Fox_Muldr: btw, there was no upgrades in shr since few days
Sep 22 11:37:30 <dos1> well, upgrade with that broken dependency was the last
Sep 22 11:37:36 <DocScrutinizer-8> dos1: please adjust chan topic
Sep 22 11:38:13 <dos1> DocScrutinizer-8: we have built everything from scratch already, instead of adjusting chan topic we should test that upgrade and sync it if it works :P
Sep 22 11:38:31 <DocScrutinizer-8> dos1: even better
Sep 22 11:38:32 <mjr> SpeedEvil, http://mjr.iki.fi/software/aprox/ , I'll note that I was trying to learn the python neworking thingy and the code using that sucks big time ;P
Sep 22 11:39:51 <SpeedEvil> thanks!
Sep 22 11:40:27 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: do you plan to make your solution http specific?
Sep 22 11:40:36 <SpeedEvil> lindi-: It's pretty much got to be.
Sep 22 11:40:54 <SpeedEvil> lindi-: Well - it'd work for ftp too.
Sep 22 11:40:54 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: I tried to make mine more general purpose (for arbitrary tcp streams)
Sep 22 11:41:11 <mjr> SpeedEvil, oh, and there's probably not licensing information; use whatever you like if you decide to use it
Sep 22 11:41:14 <SpeedEvil> lindi-: hmm. That's not an insane idea. It's a lot harder.
Sep 22 11:41:14 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: but I hit problems. how do I know when to flush the data to client?
Sep 22 11:41:33 <SpeedEvil> lindi-: http has some nice properties. The pages are discrete. 
Sep 22 11:41:36 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: other issues is muxing
Sep 22 11:41:37 <SpeedEvil> They are textish.
Sep 22 11:41:38 <mjr> and the PDF in there is not directly relevant to the piece of code, it's from my friend's earlier similar project
Sep 22 11:41:49 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: you want to have multiple streams over a single tcp connection possibly
Sep 22 11:42:03 <SpeedEvil> lindi-: ssh works for that. :)
Sep 22 11:42:17 <mjr> (a project which has been lost in time and which didn't do this, exactly)
Sep 22 11:42:26 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: connecting to a new web page has overhead with ssh tunneling
Sep 22 11:42:34 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: it needs to setup a new channel
Sep 22 11:42:41 <mjr> yeah I was also planning to use ssh for compression and tunneling
Sep 22 11:42:50 <mjr> but, the overhead is a point
Sep 22 11:43:03 <lindi-> so I ended up wondering how to do simple muxing protocol
Sep 22 11:43:31 <SpeedEvil> i was sidestepping it by only sending complete http page diffs, and waiting till it downloads completely on the proxy before doing that
Sep 22 11:44:08 <DocScrutinizer-8> err, simple tunneling? vpn?
Sep 22 11:44:08 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: as in patch(1)?
Sep 22 11:44:20 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer-8: tcp over tcp won't work
Sep 22 11:46:05 <SpeedEvil> lindi-: pretty much exactly patch - though not using the exact protocol. So you request http://site.com/1 and it finds that there are bits of site.com/2 and google.com/3 that you have a copy of - and it sends the links to those, and the new text
Sep 22 11:46:33 <lindi-> SpeedEvil: xdelta3 is probably better?
Sep 22 11:46:39 <SpeedEvil> lindi-: to make up /1 as the whole page
Sep 22 11:48:22 <DocScrutinizer-8> SpeedEvil: that sounds pretty much like what each compressor like e.g. lzh is doing by default. Have a large dictionary and history buffer, and code by self-reference to prior parts
Sep 22 11:48:51 <SpeedEvil> DocScrutinizer; exactly - it's nothing really innovative. It's just nobody seems to have implemented it in a decent way.
Sep 22 11:49:02 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer-8: general purpose algorithms don't really cope with really large buffers
Sep 22 11:49:32 <mjr> SpeedEvil, yeah I made the differ so that it can spew stuff out as fast as it comes in to the proxy
Sep 22 11:49:34 <SpeedEvil> yeah - 100M history blocks don't generally work well with general purpose algos.
Sep 22 11:49:47 <DocScrutinizer-8> lindi-: dunno. Seems it depends on implementation and parameters
Sep 22 11:49:58 <lindi-> DocScrutinizer-8: well the search algorithms from that buffer can be linear
Sep 22 16:11:35 <mortenlysgaard> Does it take a long time to boot the first time after flashing.
Sep 22 16:17:14 <Cristianpark1> Yes mortenlysgaard, it takes a little bit to boot
Sep 22 16:20:50 <mortenlysgaard> Cristianpark1: Hmm. It booted fine, but now the pin dialog won't show, and in /var/log/ophonekitd.log it reads tenfolds of lines with: dbus not aviable, try again in 5 sec.
Sep 22 16:24:18 <Cristianpark1> what distro are u using? SHR?
Sep 22 16:28:03 <mortenlysgaard> Cristianpark1: Yup
Sep 22 16:45:11 <mortenlysgaard> How do i install the gry* theme. I have the gry.edj file but where do i put it?
Sep 22 16:58:39 <panicking> larsc, No lack at boot
Sep 22 16:58:41 <panicking> :)
Sep 22 17:01:30 <panicking> Do you have seen this error gpiochip_add: gpios 256..276 (glamo) not registered                             
Sep 22 17:01:30 <panicking> glamo-gpio glamo-gpio.0: Could not register gpio chip: -22                      
Sep 22 17:01:30 <panicking> glamo-gpio: probe of glamo-gpio.0 failed with error -22
Sep 22 17:06:34 <larsc> yes i do
Sep 22 17:06:48 <larsc> seems as if there is a patch missing
Sep 22 17:07:39 <larsc> you need to select select S3C24XX_GPIO_EXTRA64
Sep 22 17:07:47 <panicking> thanks :)
Sep 22 17:07:51 <Chocky> moo
Sep 22 17:11:04 <panicking> larsc, Last question if I can
Sep 22 17:11:06 <panicking> set_machine_constraints: unsupportable 'memldo' voltage constraints             
Sep 22 17:11:06 <panicking> pcf50633-regltr: probe of pcf50633-regltr.10 failed with error -22 
Sep 22 17:11:10 <panicking> I have this problem too
Sep 22 17:12:13 <larsc> memldo isn't used anyway
Sep 22 17:16:41 <Chocky> so, a Danish friend of my claims that good beer is now hard to find in Denmark
Sep 22 17:19:02 <panicking> I have a patch for the wifi
Sep 22 17:19:11 <panicking> move the operation to the new interface
Sep 22 17:19:24 <panicking> netdev_ops
Sep 22 17:22:34 <PaulFertser> panicking: please send it to the ML and CC Werner. :)
Sep 22 17:22:44 <larsc> panicking: there should be a patch in my tree that does the same
Sep 22 17:26:35 <panicking> well, I don't find it and just write
Sep 22 17:26:37 <panicking> one
Sep 22 17:45:43 <PaulFertser> panicking: looks good
Sep 22 18:13:16 <cbrake> I just loaded the latest Qi, kernel, and SHR on gta02
Sep 22 18:13:28 <cbrake> I get a little text on the screen HDQ Error 1
Sep 22 18:13:41 <cbrake> and a bunch of unknown boot options messages
Sep 22 18:14:03 <cbrake> any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Sep 22 18:18:45 <cbrake> ahh, found the "power" before kernel boots
Sep 22 18:18:49 <cbrake> now getting more messages
Sep 22 18:20:18 <cbrake> hmm, fair amount of jffs2 error messages
Sep 22 18:45:11 <grav> what packages do i need to compile any helloworld.c ? gcc (+symlinks and dependencies) gives lack of 'as' file during compilation
Sep 22 18:45:20 <Chocky> binutils
Sep 22 18:47:28 <grav> thx!
Sep 22 18:57:45 <cbrake> installing SHR to a SD seems to be working much better
Sep 22 18:57:51 <cbrake> wonder if the NAND install is broke 
Sep 22 18:58:09 <cbrake> I never got the SHR splash screen with the NAND install
Sep 22 19:06:08 <mortenlysgaard> Does there exist a good messaging app for SHR, using opim?
Sep 22 19:32:56 <PaulFertser> mortenlysgaard: probably litephone or c_c's launcher?
Sep 22 21:01:30 <Cristianpark> Hi guys
Sep 22 21:02:57 <Cristianpark> I've changed the apps icons on SHR from the preferences->appearence Menu selecting OpenMoko IconTheme instead of SHR
Sep 22 21:02:57 <Undrwater> whassup
Sep 22 21:03:21 <Cristianpark> and I lost the icons for Dialer, Messages and Contacts
Sep 22 21:03:31 <Cristianpark> there is a easy way to recover them?
Sep 22 21:04:07 <Undrwater> desktop icons?
Sep 22 21:16:10 <Undrwater> Cristianpark: desktop icons?
Sep 22 21:24:56 <Cristianpark1> sorry, I lost the connection
Sep 22 21:25:08 <Cristianpark1> where is the IRC log?
Sep 22 21:25:23 <Chocky> Undrwater> Cristianpark: desktop icons?
Sep 22 21:25:23 <Chocky> -:- SignOff polymar: #openmoko (Remote closed the connection)
Sep 22 21:25:23 <Chocky> -:- SignOff agg1n: #openmoko (Success)
Sep 22 21:25:23 <Chocky> -:- Cristianpark1 [n=almera@200.24.40.196] has joined #openmoko
Sep 22 21:25:47 <Undrwater> :D
Sep 22 21:25:48 <Cristianpark1> Chocky: thanks
Sep 22 21:26:30 <Undrwater> Cristianpark1: you can set desktop icons in /usr/share/applications/<app>.desktop
Sep 22 21:26:46 <Undrwater> in many distros anyway
Sep 22 21:31:13 <Cristianpark1> Thanks, and where are the icon files by default?
Sep 22 22:00:08 <DocScrutinizer-8> ~logs
Sep 22 22:00:09 <apt> All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged.
Sep 22 22:01:44 <Blastur>  hi im not logged
Sep 22 22:02:10 <DocScrutinizer-8> [00:01] <Blastur>  hi im not logged
Sep 22 22:02:20 <DocScrutinizer-8> no chance ;-)
Sep 22 22:08:47 <Chocky>  but
Sep 22 22:08:51 <Chocky>   can
Sep 22 22:08:53 <Chocky>    you 
Sep 22 22:09:00 <Chocky>    keep
Sep 22 22:09:00 <Chocky>      it
Sep 22 22:09:01 <Chocky>       up?
Sep 22 22:14:38 <Undrwater> logged?
Sep 22 22:14:46 <Chocky> felled?
Sep 22 22:14:53 <Undrwater> treed
Sep 22 22:14:56 <Chocky> milled?
Sep 22 22:14:59 <Chocky> papered?
Sep 22 22:15:11 <Chocky> leafed
Sep 22 22:15:21 <Undrwater> thumbed
Sep 22 22:15:28 <Chocky> inked
Sep 22 22:15:37 <Chocky> arse-wiped
Sep 22 22:15:38 <Undrwater> spotted
Sep 22 22:15:41 <Undrwater> :P
Sep 22 22:15:47 <Chocky> flushed
Sep 22 22:15:52 * Chocky gives up
Sep 22 22:18:39 <DocScrutinizer-8> Undrwater: ???
Sep 22 22:20:11 <CIA-44> freesmartphone.org: 03Frederik.Sdun 07cornucopia * r38457666000e 10/fsousaged/src/plugins/controller/resource.vala: Fix double emitted signal ResourceChanged. Thx to agg1n
Sep 22 22:57:51 <Undrwater> DocScrutinizer?
Sep 22 23:10:39 <Undrwater> [shr-u] anyone having difficulties with gps using latest update?
Sep 23 01:36:41 <DocScrutinizer-8> undthere's rumour, yes
Sep 23 01:37:03 <DocScrutinizer-8> undrway... fsck
Sep 23 01:37:19 <DocScrutinizer-8> can't ppl say goodbye?
Sep 23 01:37:32 <DocScrutinizer-8> or simply stay online?
Sep 23 01:38:25 <DocScrutinizer-8> night CoreDump|Zzzz 
Sep 23 01:38:52 <CoreDump|Zzzz> DocScrutinizer: Good night.
Sep 23 02:52:18 * DocScrutinizer-8 wonders why there seem to be no theory that postulates planets/objects consisting of dark mater
Sep 23 02:57:04 * ndnihil has such a theory
Sep 23 02:57:16 <ndnihil> -something- has to fill the gaps between particles
Sep 23 02:57:25 <ndnihil> energy/matter, what's the difference
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