**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 08 02:59:58 2009 Oct 08 04:55:48 max_posedon: A2DP is supposed to be working "ok", many people used it, you saw the posts about intone yourself. Oct 08 04:56:17 max_posedon: if you're using gentoo, probably you have some library compiled differently, with floating point support and it ruins the performance. Oct 08 04:56:34 max_posedon: for instructions on SCO just read the wiki page i mentioned, the section about GSM calls. Oct 08 05:04:00 max_posedon: but even with SCO it just might not work depending on your hardware :( Oct 08 05:04:33 I use shr-U mrmoku's Oct 08 05:05:21 intone doesn't work. so I tested with mplayer Oct 08 05:06:44 with mp3 and with wav Oct 08 05:08:21 but according to loadavg (it jumps to 1) Oct 08 05:08:29 smth wrong.. Oct 08 05:17:37 [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm.c:872:(snd_pcm_sw_params) params->avail_min is 0 Oct 08 05:17:37 mplayer: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err >= 0' failed. Oct 08 05:17:50 its become more interesting every time Oct 08 05:19:46 ah, framework and family dead after unregistering from gprs... Oct 08 05:50:34 PaulFertser, (and somebody else who tring to help) I tried Oct 08 05:50:49 aplay wav-file from ram, still the same Oct 08 05:51:07 max_posedon: i say you most probably hog cpu by using some fp codec Oct 08 05:52:20 aplay? Oct 08 05:52:44 anyway, loadavg with aplay ~0.3, cpuussage near 30-40% Oct 08 05:53:16 (aplay eats upto 15) Oct 08 05:54:14 I even tried no_fair_schedule.. Oct 08 05:56:20 also as I said, I use shr-'mrmoku, so, most people have same software.. Oct 08 05:56:28 max_posedon: for A2DP bluez or alsa uses some special codec to present the data in a format suitable for the headphones. Oct 08 05:56:45 max_posedon: have you tried nicing -19 mplayer? Oct 08 05:57:00 yes, (playing with aplay now) Oct 08 06:00:20 may be there is smth like bluetooth cache size? Oct 08 06:00:29 if yes, I want increese it Oct 08 06:07:26 I give up for now Oct 08 06:19:49 max_posedon: disable FIQ Oct 08 06:21:09 max_posedon: buffersize can be set for aplay and in alsa device definition Oct 08 06:28:07 dos1: never seen "green" on your usb-charger? start dialer! Oct 08 06:51:00 DocScrutinizer, hm, how? (about fiq) Oct 08 06:51:09 (about aplay, I'll read man) Oct 08 07:05:37 max_posedon: (fiq) no idea, absolutely. probabaly I should have said "fix fiq", as I realized e.g. a vibrator set to "40" gets a very audible glitch every 25sec, and that's a flaw in FIQ handling for sure Oct 08 07:07:31 if even FIQ-based PWM-managment of vib is messed up, you bet audio playback probably is as well Oct 08 07:29:03 [07:19] ah, framework and family dead after unregistering from gprs... Oct 08 07:29:27 wow, finally someone to join in to my moaning Oct 08 07:32:49 mickey|dinner: ^ Oct 08 10:08:56 some time ago, I mistakenly said ath6k doesn't support wep key index here Oct 08 10:09:34 just found out after you set the key with nonstandard index by iwconfig eth0 key deadbeef [2], you also need to say you actaully want to use key no 2 by iwconfig key [2] Oct 08 10:09:39 then it works perfectly :) Oct 08 10:09:50 I shall update wiki now if noone objects Oct 08 10:14:39 ok its in ^^ Oct 08 10:14:39 for me WEP kernel-panics :-o Oct 08 10:14:54 feel free to nag me with wikify holistics :) Oct 08 10:15:10 DocScrutinizer-8, really? how so ? Oct 08 10:15:28 on FR. With WPA it panics on my AP ;-P Oct 08 10:15:41 DocScrutinizer-8, aah.. haven't try WPA, can't tell you that Oct 08 10:15:52 how so? dunno, simply use WEP Oct 08 10:16:12 DocScrutinizer-8, yes, I use WEP, not wpa :) Oct 08 10:16:44 yes, and here OM kernel panics on doing that Oct 08 10:16:50 DocScrutinizer-8, I get no kernel panic.. I'm using andy-tracking but its the latest with 2.6.29-r3 kernel Oct 08 10:17:22 dunno, I think mine is roundabout as new as it gets Oct 08 10:17:48 I think someone already started to pull in stuff from 2.6.30, didn't they Oct 08 10:18:22 maybe Oct 08 10:19:00 hmm actualyl not much happened from my revision Oct 08 10:19:16 DocScrutinizer-8, if you want I'll find out my git tag when I get home (I compiled it at home pc)P Oct 08 10:19:33 DocScrutinizer-8, maybe you could find which change caused the problem Oct 08 10:19:39 lets see if ath6k even got touched Oct 08 10:19:46 no use in it. I don't plan to investigate Oct 08 10:20:07 PaulFertser touched it last time I know of Oct 08 10:21:09 can't find it, damn Oct 08 10:21:52 aah yes Oct 08 10:21:59 its still in drivers root directory Oct 08 10:21:59 cz_jc: i touched wifi by reverting wrong werner's patch Oct 08 10:22:04 stupid thing :) Oct 08 10:22:28 PaulFertser, yes, I see Oct 08 10:23:22 DocScrutinizer-8, try depatching with this: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=8851834038aec76c07454f3620fa9fb1506e7217 Oct 08 10:23:38 thanks, I did Oct 08 10:23:46 I definitely don't have this patch Oct 08 10:24:00 maybe I can see how old my kernel is Oct 08 10:24:20 yes, its 13. 9. Oct 08 10:24:48 hmm damn then I have that patch, sorry I was wrong Oct 08 10:25:06 DocScrutinizer-8, then maybe its this one: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=54f6fd272bec8e57f1040fc0fa1d954051fc275c Oct 08 10:25:26 but maye even the generic wireless framework could have gotten wrong, afaik a looot affects ath6k Oct 08 10:25:34 I think I'd focus on SDIO too Oct 08 10:27:16 DocScrutinizer-8, what kind of kernel panic do you get Oct 08 10:27:26 *? Oct 08 10:56:47 anyone could get remoko working on shr-unstable? Oct 08 12:50:18 freesmartphone.org: 03mok 07libframeworkd-glib * re9838c5d97c5 10/src/opimd/frameworkd-glib-opimd-contacts.c: Oct 08 12:50:18 freesmartphone.org: opimd: remove some more g_free(proxy) Oct 08 12:50:18 freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Klaus Kurzmann Oct 08 13:50:11 Hi! Somehow, ousaged does not work correctly for me. ListResources returns an empty list. Can someone tell me how to solve this problem? Oct 08 14:12:30 juego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html Oct 08 16:36:16 what is actually faster/ lighter zhone or illume? Oct 08 16:48:23 what is better for good performance zhone or illume? Oct 08 16:53:02 they're not equivalent Oct 08 16:53:22 illume is a desktop environment and zhone is an application Oct 08 16:53:50 er, isn't illume a theme? Oct 08 16:53:58 E is the desktop environment Oct 08 16:54:29 ah didnt know that Oct 08 16:54:29 thx Oct 08 16:54:34 and what other than illume can I get for it mine sseeems un pleasently slow Oct 08 16:56:29 xfce is the only one i can remember, though you'll probably be better off tweaking illume Oct 08 16:56:50 xfce runs quite nice actually Oct 08 16:56:53 if you ask in #e someone maybe able to help you tweak some settings to make it more responsive Oct 08 16:57:09 and no matter what you do, E/illume is too resource intensive for this phone Oct 08 16:57:42 have you done the bfs fix? Oct 08 16:57:52 ndnihil: thats why I look for alternitives Oct 08 16:57:53 it makes animations run a bit more smoothly Oct 08 16:58:07 mkdir /debug Oct 08 16:58:08 mount -t debugfs none /debug Oct 08 16:58:08 echo NO_NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS > /debug/sched_features Oct 08 16:58:33 Though I've got to say that it looks damn smoking Oct 08 16:58:35 I think it was PaulFertser(?) who mentioned that one Oct 08 16:58:41 perhaps it was doc Oct 08 16:59:18 I played with an iphone a week or two back Oct 08 16:59:27 and got pissed at how piggishly slow this thing runs Oct 08 16:59:40 Btw I tried recent hackable one but it failed blatalantly for some reason I cant boot with it :( Oct 08 16:59:52 there was one dist that ran xfce native Oct 08 16:59:56 debian based Oct 08 16:59:59 cant remember its name Oct 08 17:00:04 but it was pretty smooth Oct 08 17:00:16 and of course no longer maintained Oct 08 17:07:33 ndnihil: seems like hackable:1 and the shr guys are the last remaining huh? Oct 08 17:07:54 I thought OM was still being worked on Oct 08 17:08:42 seems not so ... Oct 08 17:10:33 I wonder how much current this thing draws when suspended and charging Oct 08 17:11:03 it's no longer doing phone duty for me, so I'm going to install it in my car as a media player Oct 08 17:11:25 your om? Oct 08 17:11:32 maybe nav duty if I can find a gps/mapping solution that doesn't suck Oct 08 17:11:38 yeah Oct 08 17:11:48 I was using the sim from my work phone in it Oct 08 17:11:52 my personal phone is cdma Oct 08 17:12:08 but, they switched providers and sent me a new brokeberry Oct 08 17:12:17 so now it's cdma too Oct 08 17:13:00 I'll probably get a sim for it, so I can wake it up via SMS and have it connect to the house wireless so I can load music on it Oct 08 17:24:22 heureca hackable:1 has images for flashing yay! Oct 08 17:27:58 do they work ab bootupp? Oct 08 17:28:29 slaxxer: huh? Oct 08 17:32:34 slaxxer: you mean if they boot up on the device? Oct 08 17:35:20 neovento Oct 08 17:35:26 that's that debian dist with xfce Oct 08 18:03:57 ndnihil: I've seen that too but seeems a little dead tome Oct 08 18:04:07 its totally dead Oct 08 18:04:23 but it's a good example of what the device can do in a lower resource environment Oct 08 18:08:25 ndnihil: btw put the neovento bar to the top change the theme and rename the apps and you have windows on embedded just stable aaand fast :D Oct 08 18:08:55 I dont know if I'd call it "fast" Oct 08 18:09:04 but it's faster than e/illume for sure Oct 08 18:21:05 hi Oct 08 18:22:46 PBeck: hi Oct 08 18:22:53 hi xxtjaxx Oct 08 19:17:30 hmm, how could I get a list of SMS from frameworkd? Oct 08 19:17:50 (shell, shell utilities, python one-liner...?) Oct 08 20:00:59 is there any recommended kernel to use along with the SHR image mentioned in the topic? Oct 08 20:03:07 Zero_Dogg: the kernel with the coressponding date Oct 08 20:03:43 Heinervdm: thanks Oct 09 02:24:39 did anyone else notice firefox 3.5 seems to ignore dpi setting when it draws icons? that makes it unusable on fr :/ Oct 09 02:27:24 hmm just noticed a workaround. when I start it while in landscape mode, icons are small and stay that way even when I rotate back to portrait =) Oct 09 02:47:53 openmoko: 03werner * r5687 10/trunk/gta02-core/ (docs/ecn/STATUS docs/ecn/ecn0011.txt usb.sch): Oct 09 02:47:53 openmoko: - moved ECN001 from "Discuss" to "Execute" and implemented it Oct 09 02:47:53 openmoko: - ECN0011: use D4905 instead of D4909 to avoid creating a gap in the component Oct 09 02:47:53 openmoko: numbers **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 09 03:00:00 2009