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Dec 16 10:03:06 <Weiss> naquan: yes.. you have to copy the build script across from 2.6.29 if you want to use it..
Dec 16 10:03:22 <Weiss> (OE etc has its own recipe I think, which is why it's not there by default)
Dec 16 10:07:44 <naquan> Weiss: can I use the same build script in andy-tracking?
Dec 16 10:15:21 <Weiss> naquan: yep
Dec 16 10:20:03 <naquan> Weiss: the build script require the .config file in GTA02, can i get that file from other branch too?
Dec 16 10:26:53 <naquan> Weiss: i'm sorry, it's a stupid question, i found it on wiki.
Dec 16 10:46:37 <naquan> Weiss: do you know what this means? /bin/sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected make: *** [sub-make] Error 2
Dec 16 10:53:54 <Weiss> naquan: error in one of the makefiles I think..
Dec 16 10:54:17 <naquan> Weiss: yes
Dec 16 10:54:24 <naquan> :(
Dec 16 10:55:43 <Weiss> can you pastebin the whole message?
Dec 16 11:14:43 <Daramarak> I really like that Tux welcomes me when I boot, my only problem is that I see him to often. After reflashing (14dec unstable) it i need to reboot 10. mins because it suspends, and won't come back to life. 
Dec 16 11:20:32 <Daramarak> I am (ofcourse) talking about the SHR distro.
Dec 16 11:40:25 <dando> hi
Dec 16 12:00:03 <dando> i just attatched my minikey usb PS2 keyboard to freerunner and it works fine.
Dec 16 12:01:16 <dando> usb mode : host
Dec 16 12:02:41 <dando> 20 $
Dec 16 12:02:52 <dando> and very small
Dec 16 12:11:19 <dando> called dreamgear mini key
Dec 16 12:12:24 <dando> seems like no one is intrested. :)
Dec 16 12:20:18 <dando> ok. the pipe symbol is missing.
Dec 16 12:20:42 <dando> @/():"'_$?!,.-1234567890
Dec 16 12:22:41 <SpeedEvil> interesting.
Dec 16 12:23:19 <dando> at least one
Dec 16 12:28:18 <dando> i cant dial a number with my keyboard. 
Dec 16 12:28:28 <tomcatek> 1it's still a linux. if You plug there a pronter it should be able to use it too ;)
Dec 16 12:29:07 <dando> thats true some how
Dec 16 12:29:22 <tomcatek> s/pronter/printer
Dec 16 12:30:44 <dando> but it is designed for PS2
Dec 16 12:31:17 <tomcatek> and there are converters usb<-> ps/2
Dec 16 12:31:45 <mjr> printer for ps/2? I doubt that
Dec 16 12:32:01 <tomcatek> keyboard
Dec 16 12:32:09 <dando> no i m talking about playstation2
Dec 16 12:32:15 <mjr> yeah, that'll work sure
Dec 16 12:32:15 <tomcatek> ou
Dec 16 12:32:36 <tomcatek> hehe.. mittle missunderstanding
Dec 16 12:32:49 <tomcatek> dando: maybye that's why it have no pipe
Dec 16 12:33:00 <dando> maybe
Dec 16 12:33:13 <dando> but its ok for chatting
Dec 16 12:33:26 <dando> using it right now
Dec 16 12:34:09 <dando> on shr pidgin
Dec 16 12:34:36 <mjr> probably keymappable
Dec 16 12:34:51 <dando> guess so
Dec 16 12:35:34 <dando> i need the pipe for my bash shell
Dec 16 12:52:04 <daniele_athome> mmm
Dec 16 12:52:16 <daniele_athome> seems that every openmoko channels mentions only SHR 
Dec 16 12:52:20 <daniele_athome> or SHR things
Dec 16 12:52:24 <daniele_athome> interesting...
Dec 16 12:52:56 <daniele_athome> does it mean that SHR is the current official distribution? that is, "sponsored" by openmoko inc.?
Dec 16 12:53:01 <tomcatek> SHR is going to conquer the world soon
Dec 16 12:53:29 <tomcatek> You are with us or against :]
Dec 16 12:57:40 <soltys> and it isn't 'sponsored' by om ;P
Dec 16 12:57:42 <soltys> afair
Dec 16 13:00:03 <tomcatek> soltys: or someone is just stealing Your share :]
Dec 16 13:00:23 <soltys> there is only my one module in settings ;)
Dec 16 13:01:56 <tomcatek> one module ~ one beer
Dec 16 13:02:31 <daniele_athome> tomcatek, actually not with you nor against you
Dec 16 13:02:39 <daniele_athome> i'm still deciding my side
Dec 16 13:02:46 <daniele_athome> because I don't know if I should help SHR
Dec 16 13:02:58 <daniele_athome> and directly contribute to it
Dec 16 13:03:06 <daniele_athome> or instead I should make my own work, based on shr
Dec 16 13:03:25 <daniele_athome> until I reach something that stands up on its own
Dec 16 13:03:31 <daniele_athome> and than "detach" from shr :)
Dec 16 13:07:26 <tomcatek> daniele_athome: what for?
Dec 16 13:10:28 <daniele_athome> tomcatek, I want to make my own mobile platform
Dec 16 13:10:41 <daniele_athome> because none satisfy me
Dec 16 13:10:52 <daniele_athome> *no one
Dec 16 13:11:17 <daniele_athome> but I can't start a distribution from scratch, it's too hard and time wasting
Dec 16 13:11:30 <daniele_athome> so I start from customizing shr
Dec 16 13:11:33 <daniele_athome> *by
Dec 16 13:11:51 <daniele_athome> and when I reach some point I will make a detached distribution
Dec 16 13:11:58 <daniele_athome> *separate
Dec 16 13:15:50 <tomcatek> You can start with binary messages
Dec 16 13:16:04 <tomcatek> (hopefully they are on Your list things to do
Dec 16 13:16:05 <tomcatek> )
Dec 16 13:16:59 <daniele_athome> mmm that's not my idea
Dec 16 13:17:20 <daniele_athome> first, I want to drop enlightenment
Dec 16 13:17:31 <daniele_athome> and replace it by a veeery basic wm (if it is necessary)
Dec 16 13:17:42 <daniele_athome> *with
Dec 16 13:18:11 <soltys> daniele_athome: hm new distro shouldn't be hard to start -> you take fso, mase distro on oe and only things are gui apps ;)
Dec 16 13:18:39 <daniele_athome> soltys, that's what I will do eventually
Dec 16 13:18:42 <daniele_athome> but not now
Dec 16 13:18:46 <soltys> mhm
Dec 16 13:19:06 <daniele_athome> now I want to focus on changing UI and possibly phone framework
Dec 16 13:19:20 <daniele_athome> I'm really looking forward to ofono
Dec 16 13:33:30 <pbaxter> hi all
Dec 16 13:33:56 <DocScrutinizer51> lo
Dec 16 13:36:12 <daniele_athome> eth0
Dec 16 13:37:27 * DocScrutinizer51 is puzzled bout daniele_athome's heretic attitude
Dec 16 13:37:39 <daniele_athome> lol
Dec 16 13:37:47 <daniele_athome> ok it was a really bad joke
Dec 16 13:37:48 <daniele_athome> :D
Dec 16 13:38:26 <daniele_athome> DocScrutinizer51, get used to them because sometimes I make even worse jokes
Dec 16 13:38:27 <daniele_athome> :P
Dec 16 13:39:02 <DocScrutinizer51> daniele_athome: if you're interested in ofono, why not use mer then?
Dec 16 13:39:24 <daniele_athome> DocScrutinizer51, because it's maemo based
Dec 16 13:39:29 <daniele_athome> and I don't like it :)
Dec 16 13:40:27 <DocScrutinizer51> actually xi think mer is debian based
Dec 16 13:40:46 <DocScrutinizer51> ofono is clearly maemo based
Dec 16 13:40:52 <daniele_athome> yes maemo is debian based
Dec 16 13:42:05 <DocScrutinizer51> and there *is* mer for FR as you know for sure
Dec 16 13:43:11 <daniele_athome> DocScrutinizer51, yes I know
Dec 16 13:43:22 <daniele_athome> anyway I'm just started exploring ofono
Dec 16 13:43:35 <daniele_athome> if maemo is better to use with ofono, I'll take it :)
Dec 16 13:43:41 <daniele_athome> i'm just evaluating my ideas for now
Dec 16 13:47:29 <DocScrutinizer51> well, it's up to you. Just don't hold your breath to find anybody excited about ofono in general and on FR / SHR in particular. If you're fine with solitaire system then go on as you find you like it
Dec 16 13:48:25 <daniele_athome> DocScrutinizer51, I'm actually doing this for myself
Dec 16 13:48:44 <daniele_athome> one day, if someone is interested in my work, I will be glad to share all with him/her :)
Dec 16 13:51:06 <DocScrutinizer51> hmm. seems you got a sisyphos work to get a minimum set of apps to a working state. but hey - it'a your time. you're free to waste it the way you like
Dec 16 13:51:46 <daniele_athome> DocScrutinizer51, i'm still planning it
Dec 16 13:52:21 <daniele_athome> I mean, if I found that it's enough just to put together some apps in the right way - so be it :)
Dec 16 13:52:28 <daniele_athome> less time "wasted" as you say
Dec 16 13:52:36 <daniele_athome> *will find
Dec 16 13:52:39 <daniele_athome> sorry bad english
Dec 16 13:53:37 <DocScrutinizer51> bl
Dec 16 13:53:44 <DocScrutinizer51> bbl even
Dec 16 13:54:30 <daniele_athome> bl?
Dec 16 13:55:32 <tomcatek> be later
Dec 16 13:57:47 <daniele_athome> what does it mean?
Dec 16 13:58:06 <tomcatek> eventually he will be back here
Dec 16 14:00:08 <daniele_athome> aaaaah
Dec 16 14:00:09 <daniele_athome> :D
Dec 16 14:23:33 <gonzoism> daniele_athome: what do you think about shr ?  what are its shortcomings ?
Dec 16 14:35:29 <daniele_athome> shortcomings means?
Dec 16 14:36:57 <daniele_athome> gonzoism
Dec 16 14:57:07 <gonzoism> yes
Dec 16 14:57:40 <gonzoism> shortcomings, being where shr doesn't fit your needs.  what do you not like about it ?
Dec 16 14:58:24 <panicking> larsc, hi
Dec 16 14:58:34 <panicking> I read the email
Dec 16 14:58:53 <panicking> few minute ago
Dec 16 15:00:36 <larsc> panicking: good
Dec 16 15:00:43 <panicking> so
Dec 16 15:00:56 <panicking> This is what I understand:
Dec 16 15:01:01 <panicking> - frequency scaling
Dec 16 15:01:07 <panicking> - call during suspend
Dec 16 15:03:46 <panicking> is it right
Dec 16 15:03:47 <panicking> ?
Dec 16 15:03:53 <panicking> or I have read to fast
Dec 16 15:06:49 <larsc> mickeyl asked about frequency scaling
Dec 16 15:07:26 <larsc> another guy asked if it's posible to use the audio chip when the device is suspended
Dec 16 15:08:10 <larsc> i replied that it is, but quite useless unless you want to suspend the main cpu during a call.
Dec 16 15:12:24 <panicking> It is possible to suspend cpu during a call
Dec 16 15:12:29 <panicking> do you try to use frequency
Dec 16 15:12:33 <panicking> scaling on freerunner
Dec 16 15:12:37 <panicking> with your kernel version
Dec 16 15:13:02 <larsc> no
Dec 16 15:15:35 <mjr> IIRC technically it would be possible to suspend during call, dunno if anyone's done that
Dec 16 15:15:55 <panicking> It's possible
Dec 16 15:16:02 <panicking> just skip the suspend function 
Dec 16 15:16:04 <mjr> oh, I read that as a question
Dec 16 15:16:06 <panicking> of alsa part
Dec 16 15:16:14 <mjr> "is it possible"
Dec 16 15:16:18 <mjr> my bad
Dec 16 15:16:23 <panicking> ok
Dec 16 15:16:41 <panicking> I'm going to push sched-freq patch on android-frerunner
Dec 16 15:16:47 <panicking> the only import thing
Dec 16 15:16:49 <panicking> is this one
Dec 16 15:17:14 <panicking> write /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq 100000
Dec 16 15:17:20 <panicking> set the min frequency
Dec 16 15:17:36 <panicking> because under this frequency there are subsystem that doent' work
Dec 16 15:17:42 <panicking> during resume
Dec 16 15:36:16 <panicking> http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/kernel_openmoko/commit/9d26d8b5cf54d3bebb2c7d0e4c48f5022a83e263
Dec 16 15:36:24 <panicking> how to registere frequency scaling
Dec 16 18:49:51 <slaxxer> that was funny
Dec 16 18:50:27 <slaxxer> can i opkg upgrade   with shr now?
Dec 16 18:50:40 <slaxxer> opkg upgrade patches?
Dec 16 18:51:35 <slaxxer> is it time to start patching since we settled on shr?
Dec 16 19:11:22 <slaxxer> br549r
Dec 16 19:11:31 <slaxxer> ")
Dec 17 00:44:08 <slaxxer> wassa?
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