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Dec 17 03:19:21 <naquan> Weiss: hi, I found the problem, it 's because of incompatibility between dash and bash, :(
Dec 17 03:19:53 <naquan> Weiss: solving this will really be problematic
Dec 17 04:34:03 * naquan away
Dec 17 05:35:47 <slaxxer> hey Doc
Dec 17 07:03:30 * naquan 's back :)
Dec 17 07:44:24 <gonzoism> naquan: what was the problem ?
Dec 17 07:46:29 <naquan> gonzoism: it's the make scripts of kernel, they're written to run in bash shell, but ubuntu came with dash shell, so they're in compatible.
Dec 17 07:47:26 <gonzoism> sticking dash into ubuntu is just idiotic.
Dec 17 07:47:59 <gonzoism> what's the extra few bytes.  bash recently got a lot of bugfixes, and shrunk in size.
Dec 17 07:50:27 <gonzoism> i've been using ubuntu for a while (etchy e-whatever?) for the convenience, but some of the stuff they do just blows my mind.  very ambivalent OS.
Dec 17 07:51:42 <naquan> gonzoism: which distro are you using now?
Dec 17 08:07:05 <PaulFertser> gonzoism: (sticking dash idiotic) nope, using bashisms with #!/bin/sh is idiotic.
Dec 17 08:08:51 <naquan> gonzoism, PaulFertser: i solved it somehow, just call /bin/bash and the shell change. now i got another problem :(
Dec 17 08:09:08 <PaulFertser> naquan: what's up?
Dec 17 08:09:16 <PaulFertser> naquan: compiling kernel should be easy...
Dec 17 08:09:45 <naquan> a file is missing: plat/pwm.h
Dec 17 08:09:50 <naquan> 2 errors
Dec 17 08:16:27 <naquan> FaulFertser: I got it, the file belongs to some new config which 's not supported yet. I disabled it.
Dec 17 08:19:35 <naquan> no, it's still there :(
Dec 17 08:28:56 <DocScrutinizer51> moin PaulFertser 
Dec 17 08:50:18 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: hey :)
Dec 17 08:50:31 <DocScrutinizer51> :-)
Dec 17 08:53:31 <DocScrutinizer51> PaulFertser: If you're going to visit 2xC3, you probably could go by montgolfiere. You should arrive jit at Berlin ;-P
Dec 17 08:55:09 <DocScrutinizer51> (cold moskow air here in germany atm)
Dec 17 09:02:11 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: i bet it's not that cold anyway :)
Dec 17 09:02:39 <DocScrutinizer51> like -8 this night
Dec 17 09:03:19 <DocScrutinizer51> so it warmed up just a little on the way from your location to mine
Dec 17 09:07:14 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: -22C here atm :p
Dec 17 09:08:50 <DocScrutinizer51> PaulFertser: better for biking. The ice isn't that slippy on very low temp than it is at around 0C
Dec 17 09:09:20 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: indeed :)
Dec 17 09:10:48 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: though i caught a little cold: was too glad to get a new very warm blanket from my mom so i opened my window a little bit too much during the night :D
Dec 17 09:11:04 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: but that's not a big deal.
Dec 17 09:12:39 <DocScrutinizer51> PaulFertser: heh. beware of the mastodon-flu
Dec 17 09:12:48 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer51: btw, i donated some of my blood on tuesday at the special station. Do you have those in DE? Here it's somewhat popular among students, they even pay some money for it.
Dec 17 09:13:50 <DocScrutinizer51> PaulFertser: I  think it's got sth like that here as well, yes
Dec 17 09:14:02 <DocScrutinizer51> red cross
Dec 17 09:14:46 <PaulFertser> anyway, bbl. DocScrutinizer51, i really hope even the "russian" weather will still allow you to recover before the ccc.
Dec 17 09:15:48 <DocScrutinizer51> oh yes. almost canceled that as I lost hope I'll recover so "quick"
Dec 17 09:17:08 * DocScrutinizer51 afk for another latte and a ACC dose
Dec 17 09:41:11 <naught101> so the screen on the freerunner is about 20% smaller than the iPhone, but it's resolution is about 33% higher?
Dec 17 10:15:33 <gonzoism> naquan i'm using ubuntu jaunty
Dec 17 11:42:08 <DocScrutinizer51> PaulFertser: TV report about Oimjakon. Hey nice weather here ;-)
Dec 17 11:43:17 <SpeedEvil> Snow here.
Dec 17 11:44:00 <DocScrutinizer51> incredible. they got a river there. Even while -70°C
Dec 17 11:52:02 <panicking> larsc, I have pushed frequency scaling patch in android freerunner kernel
Dec 17 11:52:10 <panicking> so people can test them
Dec 17 11:52:41 <panicking> I have a new solution in android for avoiding sms loose during suspend
Dec 17 11:52:58 <panicking> Now the best thing is having glamo 3d 2d stuff in android
Dec 17 12:27:18 <jl_gene> ~logs
Dec 17 12:27:20 <apt> All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged.
Dec 17 12:31:34 <jl_gene> ~log
Dec 17 12:31:35 <apt> extra, extra, read all about it, log is http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko-cdevel/ for #openmoko-cdevel only. Maybe you meant "~logs" ?
Dec 17 12:42:24 <DocScrutinizer51> !logs
Dec 17 12:42:26 <cdbot2> Channel logs for #openmoko are archived at:
Dec 17 12:42:27 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23openmoko
Dec 17 12:42:28 <cdbot2> Live-logs are available at
Dec 17 12:42:29 <cdbot2> http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23openmoko.livelog
Dec 17 12:42:30 <cdbot2> See ?? help-logs for usage instructions
Dec 17 13:06:35 <pbaxter> hi all
Dec 17 13:13:59 <tomcatek> hi
Dec 17 17:51:54 <PBeck> hi
Dec 17 21:59:15 <spacepluk> hi, where can I find the asound.conf used in SHR?
Dec 17 22:00:42 <tomcatek> spacepluk: U mean filesystem or package?
Dec 17 22:02:38 <spacepluk> I just want to take a look at the settings. I'm trying to fix a sound problem in android, and I remember that SHR was pretty loud.
Dec 17 22:03:27 <spacepluk> It would be nice if I could see the file in some source repository instead of flashing the phone :P
Dec 17 22:06:07 <tomcatek> hmm..
Dec 17 22:06:09 <skhme> You mean /etc/asound.conf ?
Dec 17 22:07:29 <spacepluk> skhme: yes
Dec 17 22:08:00 <skhme> Okay!
Dec 17 22:08:24 <tomcatek> just http://pastebin.com/d30afa0fc
Dec 17 22:09:00 <tomcatek> spacepluk: it's quite short file :) have a look
Dec 17 22:09:18 <spacepluk> tomcatek: thank you! :)
Dec 17 22:09:53 <spacepluk> android's is a lot longer
Dec 17 22:12:53 <tomcatek> spacepluk: no problem. I heard, that android on FR is a bit slow. did You got it working propertly?
Dec 17 22:13:35 <panicking> Try the new android kernel and the android image
Dec 17 22:13:44 <panicking> :)
Dec 17 22:13:49 <panicking> ;)
Dec 17 22:14:13 <mwester> URL?
Dec 17 22:14:27 <mwester> Seems that koolu is no longer active?
Dec 17 22:14:41 <panicking> koolu?
Dec 17 22:14:55 <panicking> http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner
Dec 17 22:15:15 <SpeedEvil> I think they went under some months ago
Dec 17 22:15:20 <SpeedEvil> 3-6?
Dec 17 22:15:21 <panicking> if you want to compile from scratch
Dec 17 22:15:24 <panicking> :)
Dec 17 22:15:30 <SpeedEvil> went under, as became uninterested in continuing
Dec 17 22:16:21 <panicking> http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/
Dec 17 22:16:26 <panicking> this is the project
Dec 17 22:16:37 <mwester> So I would have to build it myself to try it.
Dec 17 22:16:56 <panicking> no
Dec 17 22:16:58 <mwester> That's unfortunate, because I'm not sure i have the time right now to do that.
Dec 17 22:17:08 <panicking> you can download
Dec 17 22:17:46 <panicking> http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/freerunner-cupcake-v21.jffs2
Dec 17 22:17:50 <panicking> image
Dec 17 22:18:03 <mwester> Thanks
Dec 17 22:18:05 <mwester> :)
Dec 17 22:18:08 <panicking> http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/uImage-cupcake-performace-v1.bin
Dec 17 22:18:10 <panicking> kernel
Dec 17 22:18:42 <panicking> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner#Method_2:_Manual_Installation_.28Koolu_or_other_images.29
Dec 17 22:18:47 <panicking> instruction
Dec 17 22:19:30 <panicking> partion and the search for trimarchi
Dec 17 22:19:35 <panicking> and you find how to install
Dec 17 22:19:38 <panicking> my images
Dec 17 22:19:50 <panicking> so you can try a light and fast kernel configuration
Dec 17 22:20:16 <panicking> http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/
Dec 17 22:20:20 <panicking> blog for reference
Dec 17 22:23:01 <mwester> Thanks - I actually have need to take a closer look at Android before I visit one of my customers (who has a big Android project underway).  I'd much rather play with it on a FR, if I can. :)
Dec 17 22:24:09 <panicking> Good
Dec 17 22:24:27 <panicking> I'm working on a new openmobile
Dec 17 22:24:46 <panicking> that will run android
Dec 17 22:26:49 <SpeedEvil> you mean your own hardware - or ...
Dec 17 22:27:55 <panicking> No in collaboration with gizmoforyou
Dec 17 22:27:57 <panicking> flow2 device
Dec 17 22:28:04 <panicking> www.gizmoforyou.com
Dec 17 22:37:41 <spacepluk> panicking: is that better than 2009-51?
Dec 17 22:39:04 <panicking> http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/uImage-cupcake-performace-v1.bin
Dec 17 22:39:10 <panicking> try to change the kernel
Dec 17 22:39:16 <panicking> maybe it works
Dec 17 22:39:23 <panicking> it's the only difference
Dec 17 22:39:26 <panicking> the kernel config.
Dec 17 22:39:33 <panicking> There is only a nesty panic
Dec 17 22:39:47 <panicking> resume with wifi on and cable plugged 
Dec 17 22:39:55 <panicking> I'm going to fix soon
Dec 17 22:40:13 <spacepluk> cool, easy to workaround anyway :P
Dec 17 22:40:29 <panicking> I need someone to test the kernel stuff
Dec 17 22:40:35 <panicking> so try to flash only the kernel
Dec 17 22:40:44 <panicking> and check if it works with 2009-51
Dec 17 22:40:59 <panicking> How old is it
Dec 17 22:41:00 <panicking> ?
Dec 17 22:41:10 <panicking> today or yesterday
Dec 17 22:41:11 <panicking> ?
Dec 17 22:41:22 <spacepluk> yesterday, are they different?
Dec 17 22:41:28 <spacepluk> ah, ok. the kernel I guess
Dec 17 22:41:50 <panicking> The kernel includes yaffs2 so it must work with your image
Dec 17 22:42:25 <panicking> but only performance-v1
Dec 17 22:42:28 <panicking> has yaffs2
Dec 17 22:42:51 <spacepluk> can I flash the kernel with neotool?
Dec 17 22:43:50 <spacepluk> or do I need to replace the one on the sd and reboot from NOD->SD?
Dec 17 22:44:35 <spacepluk> I'm still learning the android way :P
Dec 17 22:45:13 <panicking> ./dfu-util
Dec 17 22:45:13 <panicking> yes
Dec 17 22:45:27 <spacepluk> thanks
Dec 17 22:45:28 <panicking> I flash with dfu-util
Dec 17 22:45:33 <panicking> or follow the wiki
Dec 17 22:45:38 <panicking> on the project page
Dec 17 22:45:58 <spacepluk> ok
Dec 17 22:46:06 <panicking> goodnight
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