**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 20 02:59:57 2010 Jan 20 04:50:20 the elm browser works for anybody? Jan 20 04:54:02 * raster shrugs Jan 20 06:54:19 naught101: yes Jan 20 06:54:55 naught101: you're supposed to specify your country and area codes in number normalization library's config. Jan 20 06:55:30 naught101: but are you sure AU operators violate standard by using weird prefixes? Jan 20 06:59:05 My network use normal prefixes in messages, but weird prefixes in phone calls. I can't do any thing :( Jan 20 07:02:24 naquan: that's unfortunate. Have you tried changing area code and international prefix in config? Jan 20 07:42:22 FaulFert`: it 's not the problem of config, my phone just receive difference numbers between messages and phone calls. If my friend has number xyz, when they call me, it's 0xyz, but when they send sms, it's +84xyz. Jan 20 07:42:58 FaulFert`: is it normal? Jan 20 07:43:48 naquan: yes. that happens Jan 20 07:44:06 thats why most phones have a large chunk of code thhat figures out al lthis reverse-mappping numbers Jan 20 07:44:26 and it can understand area codes, country codes and different conventions and standards around the world Jan 20 07:47:51 raster: the phone log display names but the message apps display only numbers, how can i change this? Jan 20 07:48:05 i'm using SHR Jan 20 07:50:47 and when i receive message, i must guess the sender's name because although they're in my contact, the name isn't shown. Jan 20 07:53:30 dunno Jan 20 07:54:55 :( Jan 20 07:55:03 k Jan 20 08:04:49 thanks anyway Jan 20 08:31:43 naquan: hey Jan 20 08:31:51 naquan: what's in your config man? Jan 20 08:32:06 naquan: there's exactly that "large chunk of code" present in SHR to do number normalization. Jan 20 08:32:15 naquan: and it works provided you give it enough details. Jan 20 08:38:31 FaulFert`: I put 00 as international prefix, 84 for network code and national prefix, area code 's blank. Jan 20 08:43:11 naquan: 0407xxxyyy are the same as +61407xxxyyy <-- doesn't match Jan 20 08:44:14 You should probably put 0 as national prefix, 61 for network code, 407 as area code. Jan 20 08:46:36 naquan: hm, no Jan 20 08:48:03 FaulFert`: no, it don't work Jan 20 08:48:14 do i need to restart anything? Jan 20 08:48:58 naquan: Jan 20 08:49:22 naquan: yes, i guess you need to restart phoneuid but my last statement is wrong. Jan 20 08:50:25 FaulFert`: I put 0 as national prefix, 84 for network code Jan 20 08:51:08 not sure about the are code but i set it 93 Jan 20 08:51:35 since my phone number start with 093xxxxxxx Jan 20 08:52:26 naquan: i need to find some docs for that to tell you for sure. Btw, i'm Paul, not Faul :) Jan 20 08:52:59 PaulFert`: sorry Jan 20 08:53:29 :) Jan 20 08:54:18 naquan: you need 0 as national prefix, 61 as country code Jan 20 08:55:02 naquan: and 407 as area code Jan 20 09:10:55 PaulFert`: wow, it work ! Jan 20 09:11:07 thank you very much Jan 20 09:11:13 :) Jan 20 09:11:49 naquan: welcome. Please share the knowledge on the wiki, probably in the SHR Manual. Jan 20 09:12:37 I think there is somewhere a table on the wiki with these values Jan 20 09:13:02 there is Jan 20 09:16:25 https://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Phone_Prefixes Jan 20 09:16:38 naquan: please insert your values there ^ Jan 20 09:19:14 Heinervdm: it's already there :( Jan 20 09:19:40 naquan: then add a link to it from the SHR Manual ;) Jan 20 09:20:06 * PaulFert` wonders who the hell might need prefixes for his own country Jan 20 09:20:09 manual already links to that page Jan 20 09:20:15 naquan: fail :P Jan 20 09:20:38 :P Jan 20 09:20:56 And i looked up the sources for you ;) Jan 20 09:21:43 :) i think all i must do is just restart frameworkd Jan 20 09:22:10 although i got it right in the setting wizard Jan 20 09:22:19 it's still not there Jan 20 10:48:44 hello to install android on fr , files .jffs2 and .bin are enough to be downloaded ? Jan 20 10:50:46 alabd: better ask in #android-on-freerunner they know more about it Jan 20 10:51:38 Heinervdm: thanks Jan 20 12:17:05 hipitihop: You want to play MythStreams? Jan 20 12:27:31 H_u_m, sorry here now.. yes I do Jan 20 12:29:02 H_u_m, still there ? Jan 20 12:30:34 Yes Jan 20 12:31:11 i am playing with mplayer config: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Hum#video_playing.2Fencoding Jan 20 12:31:48 are mythstreams using IPv4? Jan 20 12:33:18 H_u_m, not that low level Jan 20 12:33:50 H_u_m, provided across standard http Jan 20 12:33:58 ah, k Jan 20 12:34:19 are there public streams I can connect to? Jan 20 12:34:47 e.g one as a wrapper in ASX format. The other mpg4.. I think there is also an experimental Jan 20 12:35:09 sorry, an experimental flash player stream format. Jan 20 12:35:35 if i can get a stream i would try to play it Jan 20 12:51:56 H_u_m, you back now Jan 20 12:52:31 H_u_m, this may give you some idea of what is possible http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_stream.php Jan 20 13:18:23 sry, was trying to watch a news stream Jan 20 13:22:07 what do you want to do, play movies/recorded tv streams? Jan 20 16:23:58 Hello , how to know volume of all packages in Opkg List ? Jan 20 20:18:24 hey Jan 20 20:18:34 whats the difference between a6 and a7? Jan 20 20:19:03 clauwn: the most important is a7 comes with factory buzz-fix. Jan 20 20:19:19 clauwn: and a slightly better bass response on wired headset. Jan 20 20:19:31 whats a buzz-fix? Jan 20 20:19:43 clauwn: but no buzz-fix affects wired headset, you'll have buzz with it even with a7. Jan 20 20:19:50 ~buzzfix Jan 20 20:19:51 i heard buzzfix is http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/ and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_Fix and http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2008-August/000267.html ff. Jan 20 20:20:04 apt: good boy Jan 20 20:20:04 :), PaulFert` Jan 20 20:20:21 ok Jan 20 20:20:23 thanks Jan 20 20:20:37 welcome Jan 20 20:33:36 ~botsnack Jan 20 20:33:36 DocScrutinizer51: thanks Jan 20 20:34:23 PaulFert`: o/ :-) Jan 20 20:34:58 DocScrutinizer51: yo Jan 20 20:35:05 DocScrutinizer51: what's up Doc :) Jan 20 20:35:16 still borked bip? Jan 20 20:35:38 DocScrutinizer51: nope, just having both bip and direct freenode sessions just in case. Jan 20 20:35:48 aah Jan 20 20:36:45 want a laughÄ Jan 20 20:36:49 ? Jan 20 20:36:54 DocScrutinizer51: sure Jan 20 20:38:18 compare LP5521 ds with what maemo made of it: http://wiki.maemo.org/LED_patterns Jan 20 20:38:28 mindboggling Jan 20 20:43:10 Thanks, later Jan 20 20:43:11 PaulFert`: I tried to study the driver source and to me it seemed like they always load all three engines of the chip concurrently with same code. Also I fail to see how that supposed 'muxing' of LEDs to either engine should work hw-wise Jan 20 20:43:52 :) Jan 20 20:56:22 [wifi/flame], DocScrutinizer51 PaulFert` (lets continue this, this is our flame channel) Jan 20 20:56:31 PaulFert`, are you kidding? Jan 20 20:56:40 there I can't use any external wifi antena Jan 20 20:57:04 max_posedon: i'm not Jan 20 20:57:13 e.g. I even cannot put my wifi spot out-of-my-house Jan 20 20:57:18 max_posedon: same here. Jan 20 20:57:40 max_posedon: but you can actually use some 5GHz channels for new-cool-fast 802.11n, while we can't. Jan 20 20:58:01 only if I bought it for myself, yes Jan 20 20:58:12 (and keep it in my house) Jan 20 20:58:28 but we have ugly 3G rules Jan 20 20:58:33 very ugly Jan 20 20:58:51 We had no 3G in moscow until very recently. Jan 20 20:59:10 and wimax not allowed anywhere except in one City) Jan 20 20:59:29 max_posedon: take a look at http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-regdb.git;a=blob;f=db.txt;hb=HEAD Jan 20 21:00:12 what's wimax?.;-P Jan 20 21:00:42 DocScrutinizer51: that's in fact the most cheap and fast mobile internet technology available in moscow atm. Jan 20 21:00:59 not here though Jan 20 21:03:07 PaulFert`, I didn't know that its so bad in russia) Jan 20 21:03:28 but in fact, we haven't good public(even payed) wifi in Minsk Jan 20 21:03:40 only few cafes, etc. Jan 20 21:04:03 same here Jan 20 21:04:28 but mobile internel in Moscow is kinda dream Jan 20 21:04:50 PaulFert`, as I know you even have "wifi internet providers" Jan 20 21:05:01 max_posedon: they suck comparing to wimax providers. Jan 20 21:05:14 and you also have 3G Jan 20 21:05:36 in fact in Minsk we have not-very-cheap 3G recently, from one operator, and cdma Jan 20 21:05:38 that's actually quite good here Jan 20 21:05:40 max_posedon: btw, the only wimax provider was caught red-handed censoring "extrimists" websites such as kasparov.ru , solidarnost.net and other opposition sites. Jan 20 21:05:54 cdma eeerkkks Jan 20 21:06:04 idiots Jan 20 21:06:08 DocScrutinizer2, cdma evdo is really good and nice Jan 20 21:06:30 and its not a hack like umts/edge/etc) Jan 20 21:06:47 PaulFert`, our goverment censoring all internet sometimes Jan 20 21:06:48 umts not exactly a hack Jan 20 21:07:01 because all trafic goes through one point Jan 20 21:07:11 max_posedon: not surprisingly, your government sucks even more than ours imho. Jan 20 21:07:24 one more surpise, if you don't know Jan 20 21:07:50 since 2 weeks ago, goverment allowed some people, control ALL emails and ALL internet browsing of all people Jan 20 21:07:55 eeeh... UMTS _is_ some variant of CDMA... where is the loss vs. CDMA? Jan 20 21:08:20 Wonka, cdma is different Jan 20 21:08:33 evdo variants really nice) Jan 20 21:08:48 max_posedon: is tor banned already? ;) Jan 20 21:09:05 they are stupid for this for now) Jan 20 21:09:45 but tor is slow, with our internet speed its very uncomfartable Jan 20 21:10:06 Use better browser (text-mode) ;) Jan 20 21:10:39 "links" for the win Jan 20 21:11:01 I prefer solutions like "vpn-to-normal-country") Jan 20 21:11:27 s/normal/free/ please Jan 20 21:11:40 Or that, if you can afford a vps, sure :) Jan 20 21:12:08 for now, yes, may be leter it won't be allowed) Jan 20 21:13:31 Heh, "Free people of Belarus! I'm pleased to introduce you to the great BY firewall, the ultimate solution to protect you from the evil in the outside world. Take care." Jan 20 21:15:10 Too bad so many people either can't or do not want to actually understand Orwell and other great writers... Jan 21 02:38:17 hi everyone, is there a way to confirm an package in angstrom-distribution work on SHR? i want to try abiword but i don't know if it has any bug or not. Jan 21 02:45:30 sorry, it depends on glib, i think it'll not work on SHR. Jan 21 02:46:07 I've used angstrom packages on SHR Jan 21 02:46:19 sometimes you have to manually sort out dependencies Jan 21 02:49:50 I installed minimo from angstrom and i think it work well. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 21 02:59:56 2010