**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 27 02:59:57 2010 Jan 27 10:14:54 Hello , how to mount linux partitions on fr ? (shr) Jan 27 10:16:33 alabd: just mount /dev /mnt Jan 27 10:25:01 Heinervdm: thanks but http://pastebin.com/m61010bcd Jan 27 10:25:52 alabd: what are you trying to do? And what is the output? Jan 27 10:28:03 Heinervdm: how to mount linux (desktop) partitions on fr ? (shr) Jan 27 10:29:10 alabd: a partition can only be mounted once Jan 27 10:29:20 alabd: yes, but where is that partition, what filesystem? And what's the result of the mount command? Jan 27 10:33:07 alabd: I see nfs relatade packages in repo, try that Jan 27 10:33:26 Heinervdm: what do you mean ? desktop partitions are not in df list Jan 27 10:34:25 alabd: so you want to mount a partition of your desktop pc on your neo? Jan 27 10:34:29 lindi-: thanks does not it differ whether it is mount by which system ? Jan 27 10:34:34 Heinervdm: yes Jan 27 10:34:47 *mounted Jan 27 10:35:04 alabd: ? Jan 27 10:35:14 alabd: with nfs, cifs, sshfs or which FS? Jan 27 10:35:54 Heinervdm: what do you mean dont you read question ? desktop is linux Jan 27 10:36:02 linux default fs is ext3 Jan 27 10:36:26 alabd: but you can't mount ext3 directly over ethernet Jan 27 10:36:48 and there is no default fs on linux... Jan 27 10:36:49 nbd? Jan 27 10:36:49 Heinervdm: it is on USB Jan 27 10:37:13 alabd: the fr uses ethernet over usb Jan 27 10:38:04 so return to first question : how to mount linux ( desktop) partitions on fr ? (shr) Jan 27 10:39:02 nfs? Jan 27 10:39:11 any number of network file sharing protocols; nfs, sshfs, even cifs Jan 27 10:39:28 oh, Heinervdm already mentioned all :) Jan 27 10:40:43 mjr: can we use to them to make a local host in desktop for fr ? Jan 27 10:42:15 oh, he left before I could decipher what he said Jan 27 10:42:57 :) Jan 27 10:47:27 lol Jan 27 12:01:19 * DocScrutinizer mooos Jan 27 14:41:32 DocScrutinizer: are You here? Jan 27 14:41:58 semi Jan 27 14:42:49 wazzup? Jan 27 14:42:51 DocScrutinizer51: ok but will You here at the evening? Jan 27 14:42:57 have some questions Jan 27 14:43:06 shoot Jan 27 14:43:18 already sent post to community@om but it is moderated now Jan 27 14:43:39 problem is that on a5 there is no c1769 Jan 27 14:43:48 the half of my brain occupied by flu won't be free the evening Jan 27 14:44:01 understand Jan 27 14:44:29 on A5 there is Jan 27 14:44:36 it's retrofitted Jan 27 14:44:47 i've found one cap. soldered on a top of some resistros and cap. Jan 27 14:44:58 yep that one Jan 27 14:45:01 mhm Jan 27 14:45:14 iirc Jan 27 14:45:18 so need to find place for new one Jan 27 14:45:25 please doublecheck Jan 27 14:45:49 i'have checked but ... i'm not 100% Jan 27 14:45:52 replace the old one with a bigger new one Jan 27 14:46:14 moment please Jan 27 14:46:16 why not solder parallel ? Jan 27 14:46:33 ok Jan 27 14:49:26 i'll find this photo and upload on my "site" Jan 27 14:52:32 uzi18: r1776/7/8 should be connected to Vsys C1767. There's no c1769 Jan 27 14:53:52 (community-ml) sorry I got 11655 unread on community, I refuse to read it any longer, too much noise since >1 year Jan 27 14:54:54 uzi18: please elaborate on C1769 vs c1767. Jan 27 14:55:41 is there a ooopsy somewhere in the wiki or ml, or is that a typo of yours, or me getting sth wrong? Jan 27 14:56:20 it is my foult Jan 27 14:56:31 np. just to make sure Jan 27 14:56:37 i realy talking about c1767 Jan 27 14:56:41 k Jan 27 14:57:54 and it is like r1776/7/8 is one leg of capacitor and secound is connected somewhere ... (c1722/32 ?) Jan 27 14:58:19 http://starowa.one.pl/~uzi/om/U1701_A5.jpg Jan 27 14:58:24 uzi18: of course you can parallel a 2nd C but it's probably easier to replace with a decent one Jan 27 14:59:10 DocScrutinizer: under this huge one it is one "extra" Jan 27 14:59:34 on the right there are these R1776/7/8 Jan 27 15:00:01 uzi18: you got the schematics, do you? Jan 27 15:00:52 yes Jan 27 15:00:56 but from a6 Jan 27 15:01:24 so it looks like ok Jan 27 15:01:39 huh? the puplished schematics are "A5-A7_cumulative" Jan 27 15:02:00 so the one extra cap it is my place to connect this C Jan 27 15:02:02 hmm? Jan 27 15:02:18 DocScrutinizer: yes cumulative Jan 27 15:03:23 so if i need to solder one new big cap it is difficult because is will be to high Jan 27 15:03:44 i need to fine place above (looking on pic) Jan 27 15:03:59 and use some wires Jan 27 15:04:27 Aaah see the picture now. seems this is really early A5. On A6-refurbished A% (the sales version) this retrofitted cap is much larger iirc, and soldered a little different than on the photo Jan 27 15:06:49 thats why i'm asking about :P Jan 27 15:08:28 DocScrutinizer: now You see that cap on top of some R and C's ? Jan 27 15:08:54 yep the "small" redish one Jan 27 15:09:10 DocScrutinizer: it's too small ... Jan 27 15:09:22 I try to find photo of retrofitted 47uF "A6" for you Jan 27 15:09:28 so what value will be anought? Jan 27 15:09:51 47u is ok? Jan 27 15:10:12 DocScrutinizer: thx Jan 27 15:26:45 uzi18: can not find picture, also can not find one of the devices here I've seen before. Maybe I never owned one, but rather saw that in TPE at OM or sth. Basically you're free to add/replace a 100uF to that location any way you feel may fit. Either use wires, or use one wire for GND and solder to R1776/7/8 the other end, or whatever. It will be rather high any way, so add some stickytape to avoid shorts to can lid Jan 27 15:27:29 ok Jan 27 15:27:43 looking now for parts to do 1024 Jan 27 15:27:59 22uF/6V Jan 27 15:29:09 * DocScrutinizer off to narcotize the other half of brain so it won't notice the lacking functions of the half occupied by flu Jan 27 15:36:53 uzi18: you're aware of the people.openmoko.org collection of interesting things? Jan 27 15:38:00 DocScrutinizer: a little Jan 27 15:38:48 in my (joerg) folder you find schematics, component placement, and even bom Jan 27 15:40:06 it's really worth an afternoon to wander around all OM staff's people directories and see what'S riping there silently ;-) Jan 27 15:42:24 ;) Jan 27 15:47:15 DocScrutinizer: it will be ok for 1024: http://pl.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c106k4pac-tu/kondensator-ceramic-multilayer/dp/1650867 ? Jan 27 15:48:24 DocScrutinizer: maybe this : http://pl.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c106k8pac-tu/kondensator-0805-10-uf-10v-x5r/dp/1463362 Jan 27 15:48:59 sorry seems this page has JS that kills my browser Jan 27 15:49:42 also alphaone has better experience with #1024 fix and needed/matching components Jan 27 15:49:58 you should ask him about it Jan 27 15:50:19 ok Jan 27 15:50:58 alphaone: ping Jan 27 15:51:39 just need to know if dimmensions are ok Jan 27 15:51:54 honestly I dunno Jan 27 15:52:28 ok will wait for alphaone Jan 27 16:03:00 uzi18: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Neo_FreeRunner_reworks_and_mods Jan 27 16:05:48 DocScrutinizer: brillant :) Jan 27 16:06:05 DocScrutinizer: pong Jan 27 16:06:42 alphaone: [2010-01-27 16:47:15] DocScrutinizer: it will be ok for 1024: http://pl.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c106k4pac-tu/kondensator-ceramic-multilayer/dp/1650867 ? Jan 27 16:07:56 alphaone: do you remember the specs matching 1024 rework offhand? Jan 27 16:08:06 uzi18: 10µF might work, but I wouldn't bet on it Jan 27 16:08:18 DocScrutinizer: What do you mean with specs? Jan 27 16:08:32 dimensions, voltage, etc Jan 27 16:08:38 alphaone: what size? Jan 27 16:09:07 uzi18: 10uF for parallel, 22uF for swap Jan 27 16:09:25 ok but dont know what size will fit Jan 27 16:09:26 uzi18: I used these: http://de.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c226m9pac7800/kondensator-0805-22uf-x5r/dp/1108326?Ntt=1108326 Jan 27 16:09:41 0805 fits Jan 27 16:09:44 As replacement Jan 27 16:09:45 alphaone: pergect, thanks Jan 27 16:09:57 pefect even Jan 27 16:10:07 paul-trigger is trigger happy Jan 27 16:10:13 thx and 10uF 0805 will be ok ? Jan 27 16:10:25 yeah, http:// is enough Jan 27 16:10:33 thx Jan 27 16:10:48 i think i will not broke my FR ;P Jan 27 16:10:51 uzi18: I can't really say Jan 27 16:11:04 uzi18: Worst case is that it wont make a difference Jan 27 16:11:05 uzi18: 10uF for parallel, 22uF for swap Jan 27 16:11:13 ah, sorry Jan 27 16:15:53 uzi18: You will need to make sure that the top of the capacitor doesn't touch the metal shield. Jan 27 16:16:45 i preffer to add one cap more Jan 27 16:17:04 I always use electrical tape Jan 27 16:17:09 Okay, or that Jan 27 16:24:53 and what kind of wires you use? Jan 27 16:26:16 uzi18: none Jan 27 16:26:20 I replace the cap Jan 27 16:27:31 uzi18: Usually I use enameled wire for that sort of stuff Jan 27 16:27:40 Food now, bya Jan 27 16:28:22 ok Jan 27 16:28:26 bye Jan 27 16:28:31 thx Jan 27 18:16:51 hi, quick q before i leave work. you know the tango share your position thing, can you see that data through a website? Jan 27 18:17:09 and i don't seem to be able to change "update every" from 0.0 Jan 27 18:18:28 i want to send a link to someone else so they can see how far away i am as i cycle Jan 27 18:20:57 anyone? Jan 27 18:23:09 nuts Jan 27 18:23:31 oh well maybe next time Jan 27 18:23:34 byee Jan 27 19:28:16 hmm... now that the bleiPad (german for lead pad) is out... Jan 27 19:28:53 I am reminded again just how damn good my toshiba portege 3110ct was. (after re-celling) - it would get 8h - weighed 1.1Kg, had a 10" screen - good keyboard, and a nice metal case. Jan 27 19:47:40 Hello , Is there any GUI api for detecting and pairing bt devices on shr ? Jan 27 19:48:05 emtouch (not in shr-u yet) Jan 27 19:48:37 ah emtooth :) Jan 27 19:51:55 thanks jama how to make fr not suspend while nplayer is running Jan 27 19:51:59 mplayer* Jan 27 19:53:23 fsoraw -r CPU -- mplayer.. Jan 27 19:57:54 Hey openmoko people ! Jan 27 19:59:35 hi Jan 27 19:59:39 pespin: maybe you should create better file structure in svn.. ie having binary .ipk files in trunk is a bit pain.. that it needs to be downloaded just for bitbake to build own .ipk files.. Jan 27 20:00:50 without mirco sd ram we have just that 256 MG space on fr ? Jan 27 20:01:44 pespin: or just create ie /trunk/emtooth and move src/data/files_from_root there Jan 27 20:06:52 JaMa, ok, will look about it :) Jan 27 20:07:25 pespin: ping me back, when you do.. I'll update recipe here.. Jan 27 20:08:39 pespin: no problem in this phase of development.. but error when dbus is not running is quite ugly :) http://pastebin.ca/1768406 Jan 27 20:09:37 jama in ubuntu how to access fr files gui ? Jan 27 20:11:59 JaMa: solved Jan 27 20:17:53 jama * Cannot find package emtooth. Jan 27 20:18:02 testing shr Jan 27 20:18:51 alabd: 20:47:41 < JaMa> emtouch (not in shr-u yet) Jan 27 20:19:12 alabd: and in shr-t is nothing more than shr-u ofc.. Jan 27 20:19:50 any app esle JaMa? Jan 27 20:27:26 alabd: http://jama.homelinux.org/org.openembedded.shr/armv4t/emtooth_0.1+svnr41-r0.4_armv4t.ipk Jan 27 20:57:33 JaMa, this error is due to a fso bug (#499 I think) Jan 27 20:57:48 and only think I can do is a workaround Jan 27 20:58:18 try and if error, sleep() and retry Jan 27 21:01:12 pespin__: ah ok.. Jan 27 21:02:39 thanks jama Jan 27 21:04:08 alabd: does it work, if not talk to pespin.. :) Jan 27 21:04:20 s/work,/work?/ Jan 27 21:04:21 JaMa meant: alabd: does it work? if not talk to pespin.. :) Jan 27 21:07:10 jama when humble make pairing ON a message pops up on onother bt device to enter passkey but after entering pass and OK on fr , emooth gives error Jan 27 21:13:10 JaMa: where to turn bt device on on fr ? Jan 27 21:34:59 pespin__: how to turn on bt ? Jan 27 21:35:49 alabd, it is turned on by fso automatically Jan 27 21:37:09 the error emtooth shows is because it tries to acces bluez, but fso takessome time to load it, so it just retries untill it can Jan 27 21:37:40 it's the workaround we found at the time, the bug is reported Jan 27 21:41:26 pespin__: how to sure it is on Jan 27 21:42:25 alabd, turn on another bluetooth device, or press settings button Jan 27 21:42:46 alabd, it should only take 1 or 2 seconds to load Jan 27 21:43:01 but that a lot for a C code jeje Jan 27 21:43:20 not if there's other processes producing load too Jan 28 01:07:27 hi there Jan 28 01:08:24 there is a devroom at fosdem-sunday from 9-12 so if there is any interest some projects can be present there. Jan 28 01:12:49 [02:00] 1) subject of each talk + name of the speaker for each talk Jan 28 01:12:49 [02:00] that I need ASAP Jan 28 01:12:49 [02:00] 2) description of each talk Jan 28 01:12:49 [02:00] 3) bios of speakers (with photo is nice, but not obligatory) Jan 28 01:12:49 [02:00] 4) description of the project Jan 28 01:13:19 [02:02] as said, everything to devrooms@fosdem.org Jan 28 01:41:00 VERSION lol dongs Jan 28 01:41:00 VERSION lol dongs Jan 28 01:41:00 VERSION lol dongs Jan 28 01:41:01 VERSION lol dongs Jan 28 01:41:03 VERSION lol dongs Jan 28 01:41:05 VERSION lol dongs Jan 28 02:08:02 wassa **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 28 02:59:56 2010