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Mar 17 10:14:27 <cgray> hi, i'm using debian and have put it in flash.  however, when i use the version on flash, i don't get usb networking, but when i use the version on the sd card, i do.  any ideas how to get usb networking to work?
Mar 17 11:27:06 <methril_work_> morning
Mar 17 14:45:52 <rafa> hi, I have latest shr-unstalbe, and some sms arrive several times. Does somebody know why?
Mar 17 14:57:39 <Heinervdm> rafa: set debug level  of frameworkd to DEBUG and send us the log
Mar 17 14:59:11 <rafa> Heinervdm: okey, I will try my best with DEBUG. I was thinking that sms is already something stable 
Mar 17 14:59:52 <Heinervdm> rafa: yes, it should work. but bug can appear everywhere
Mar 17 15:30:02 <DocScrutinizer> also there were some reports about "SIM storage full, can't receive SMS" though user never kept any SMS in SIM. Might be related problem. AIUI inbound SMS are noticed to frameworkd via unsol msg (AT), then if framework times out on handling the ACK for SMS receive, modem stores SMS to SIM instead. Something along that line... Ask mickeyl 
Mar 17 18:20:09 <rafa> DocScrutinizer: okey, good to know about "sim storage full" thing.. let me check if I understand from where that problem is coming..
Mar 17 22:37:18 <SpeedEvil> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Qi-Hardware-Ben-NanoNote/
Mar 17 22:54:33 <DocScrutinizer> ""Linux.com also reported that Qi was supporting a community effort to complete OpenMoko's aborted redesign of its Freerunner."" muhahaha
Mar 17 22:55:13 <Wonka> that sounds wrong on so many dimensions...
Mar 17 22:55:17 <SpeedEvil> Personally, the lack of widi in the above would generally be a killer.
Mar 17 22:55:21 <SpeedEvil> wifi
Mar 17 22:55:28 <SpeedEvil> For portable apps anyway.
Mar 17 22:55:31 <DocScrutinizer> ther's neither been any OM "redesign of FR", nor is gta02-core aimed at "completing it"
Mar 17 22:55:55 <SpeedEvil> I could still see possibly using them for stuff like door entry controllers.
Mar 17 22:56:48 <DocScrutinizer> hmmm possibly
Mar 17 22:57:39 <DocScrutinizer> actually I considered to use N810 for that. Much more bang for the buck
Mar 17 22:58:23 <DocScrutinizer> I mean, 320*200... c'mon
Mar 17 22:58:35 <SpeedEvil> n810>>$99
Mar 17 22:59:06 <DocScrutinizer> yes
Mar 17 22:59:38 <DocScrutinizer> still I *have* two of them :-P
Mar 17 22:59:45 <SpeedEvil> :)
Mar 17 23:00:39 <SpeedEvil> However - $99 is my food budget for the next 6 weeks or so - so I'm abstaining from hardware.
Mar 17 23:01:09 <DocScrutinizer> and for twice the bucks of a ben, you get real RAM, WiFi, a real screen, with touch
Mar 17 23:01:28 <SpeedEvil> And for some things you don't actually need that
Mar 17 23:01:38 <DocScrutinizer> yep
Mar 17 23:01:43 <raster> SpeedEvil: $99 buys u food for 6 weeks?
Mar 17 23:01:53 <SpeedEvil> raster: ATM, yes.
Mar 17 23:02:08 <DocScrutinizer> amazing, not even I achive that
Mar 17 23:02:25 <SpeedEvil> Careful shopping, with regards to cost and nice stuff I can make with it.
Mar 17 23:02:42 <SpeedEvil> Helped by sort-by-price on supermarket website.
Mar 17 23:02:53 <SpeedEvil> sort-by-price-per-unit-qty
Mar 17 23:03:03 <raster> SpeedEvil: wow.... i'd be amazed to surirve.. what... $15/wk
Mar 17 23:03:11 <raster> $2/day
Mar 17 23:03:14 <DocScrutinizer> well, we don't even have such things here
Mar 17 23:03:30 <raster> gee... i'd have to basically eat maggi 2 minute noodles to survive :(
Mar 17 23:03:43 <DocScrutinizer> still had to live with 4€ a day
Mar 17 23:04:13 <raster> DocScrutinizer:  thats 3x as much as $2/day :)
Mar 17 23:04:19 <DocScrutinizer> yep
Mar 17 23:04:23 <raster> a muach better scenario
Mar 17 23:04:36 <DocScrutinizer> depends on the supermarket
Mar 17 23:05:08 <SpeedEvil> Naah. Main meal was potatos, cabbage, and roast pork with gravy.
Mar 17 23:05:23 <SpeedEvil> Total 67p or so.
Mar 17 23:05:26 <SpeedEvil> $1
Mar 17 23:05:44 <SpeedEvil> All three were bought in large quantities, when reduced.
Mar 17 23:05:57 <DocScrutinizer> you'd probably not even get potatoes for that here
Mar 17 23:06:27 <DocScrutinizer> the large qty thing is the problem though
Mar 17 23:07:09 <SpeedEvil> Well - potatos last 6 months - and meat freezes well. Cabbages last a month, or forever frozen
Mar 17 23:07:27 <DocScrutinizer> no matter what I buy, usually 2/3 of it went to the bin, as I can't eat it all up before it's rotten
Mar 17 23:08:09 <SpeedEvil> Freezer is killer for that. I roasted up 8Kg of meat, made gravy, and then froze in meal sized portions.
Mar 17 23:08:28 <DocScrutinizer> SpeedEvil: that's a high art actually
Mar 17 23:08:46 * SpeedEvil wishes solid state cooling was more sane.
Mar 17 23:09:46 * DocScrutinizer kicks his old fridge for running >50% of the time
Mar 17 23:10:12 <SpeedEvil> My freezer stat is broken, currently it's running on a 1h/3h timer
Mar 17 23:10:35 <DocScrutinizer> probably the cooling is more expensive than the lil food inside is worth it
Mar 17 23:10:53 <DocScrutinizer> (mine)
Mar 17 23:11:13 <DocScrutinizer> moin raster btw
Mar 17 23:11:20 <SpeedEvil> Garden makes lots of raspberries, which go in pies and stuff. Apples too.
Mar 17 23:11:40 <DocScrutinizer> that's great
Mar 17 23:12:08 * SpeedEvil wonders who are the 'om people' that some have mentioned were involved in http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Main_Page
Mar 17 23:12:26 <DocScrutinizer> wolfgang, and steve
Mar 17 23:12:39 <SpeedEvil> ah
Mar 17 23:13:01 <DocScrutinizer> actually also mirko
Mar 18 02:31:12 <naquan> hi everyone, I installed SHR-t on SD card and create swap file in / . When the battery run out the phone got an un-clean shutdown and the file system (ext2) got errors. Is there a way to force fsck after un-clean shutdowns? please help.
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