**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 21 02:59:57 2010 May 21 08:51:08 can iconv or any UNIX tool convert utf-8 to sms character set? May 21 16:27:36 larsc, hi May 21 17:51:18 hello there, 2 questions: May 21 17:51:23 who's in charge of the openmoko wiki? May 21 17:51:30 1. is it normal that zhone doesn't work when gpsd is disabled? May 21 17:51:54 2. How can I get FSO to store the pin so there is no need to enter it everytime May 21 17:52:17 badcloud: there're some admins May 21 17:52:25 Defiant: as far as I know, you need to disable pin authentication using another phone May 21 17:52:26 badcloud: what's your question? I have some perms. May 21 17:52:35 badcloud: but i can not change the certificate :| May 21 17:52:58 Defiant: 1. no 2. it's not about FSO, it's about storing it in your FSO client. May 21 17:53:08 Defiant: use my fso.el, it has that feature ;) May 21 17:54:35 PaulFertser: hmm google says emacs...I'm a vim user.. May 21 17:54:58 Defiant: i use it now as my only phone UI for more than 2 weeks ;) May 21 18:13:14 hmm kapula can May 21 18:14:00 Defiant: indeed May 21 20:07:50 do people still use openmoko phones? are they even supported by OpenMoko,Inc. anymore? May 21 20:11:14 people still use, as for support, what do you mean? May 21 20:11:33 I never required any support from OpenMoko Inc. May 21 20:11:57 are they actively developing/maintaining the OS? May 21 20:13:57 which OS? May 21 20:14:24 Linux actively developed and maintainer by many companies around the world May 21 20:16:06 linux is the kernel,. i'm talking about the whole OpenMoko framework May 21 20:16:45 Neo Freerunners runs busybox, X, alsa, enlightment and many other linux software May 21 20:17:03 all this software developerd and maintainerd by many companies May 21 20:17:16 what you mean under OpenMoko framework? May 21 20:17:41 openmoko runs classic Linux, it isn't like Android and so on May 21 20:21:33 what I'm asking is, does anyone maintain an official distribution, or is every user supposed to roll their own distro from scratch? May 21 20:23:40 i had a freerunner for a few months, until i sold it around dec. 08, and I never considered it usable enough for me to have as my primary phone. i'm just wondering how things have changed. May 21 20:27:33 FR haven't official distribution May 21 20:27:46 most users use SHR May 21 20:28:18 I use FR as my primary phone since Sep 2008 May 21 20:28:32 after I did buzz fix its really usable May 21 20:34:15 peeps[work]: I just got my FR last week, and i'm running debian. But I need to fix the buzz :( May 21 22:08:58 Hey May 21 22:12:33 jucs: 'sup May 21 22:12:52 'sup? :-D May 21 22:13:40 jucs: very short for what's up May 21 22:14:18 jucs: so... what's up? May 21 22:15:29 Ah ;-) Well... I never know how to answer that question :-P May 21 22:15:39 jucs: you're not alone May 21 22:15:46 jucs: but did you have a question? May 21 22:15:57 ;-) Is "Dave" still here from time to time? May 21 22:16:08 w h a t s H a p p e n i n g May 21 22:16:12 Well, actually only this one, no technical things ;-) May 21 22:16:15 jucs: man, I haven't seen him in FOREVER May 21 22:16:23 :-( May 21 22:16:37 sorry to disappoint May 21 22:16:49 Don't worry, not your fault^^ May 21 22:17:51 * badcloud plays sad music *loudly* May 21 22:18:41 well, I'm spent May 21 22:18:45 going to SLEEP May 21 22:18:48 later May 21 22:26:40 After installing e17 in the FR (running debian) zhone seems to have problems with dbus. It says "connecting w/ dbus" and does'nt give me access to phone functions. Any ideas? May 21 22:29:20 zhone.log says "WARNING could not create proxy for org.freesmartphone.ousaged:/org/freesmartphone/Usage" May 21 22:30:37 now it also happens with matchbox-wm as well May 22 02:26:22 hello, while compilling xf86-video-glamo from git, i get: glamo.h:41:26: error: drm/glamo_bo.h: No such file or directory May 22 02:26:39 any idea if its a problem on my side ? May 22 02:39:57 I see the header I need is in git version of mesa. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 22 02:59:57 2010