**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 27 02:59:57 2010
May 27 04:00:40 <naquan> hi everyone, is there a way to save contacts on SIM card in SHR?
May 27 04:04:57 <naquan> sorry, i found it.
May 27 08:39:28 <Fox_Muldr> is there a possibillity to see if a sms is really send in the frontend in shr-u? i had it with some sms that they seemed to be sent correctly but in fact they never arrived at the receiver. i think that they were never really sent at all throug fso. but because of a missing sending progress screen i don't know the status of the sending. :/
May 27 09:59:20 <babamelone> Hi, I have connected my bluetooth headset to the fr running shr via emtooth. How can I now listen to music using the bt headset? using intone I get the error message : Cannot stream over bt (or sth. like that) and with the mplayer option -ao alsa:device=bluetooth alsa creates the error message [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM bluetooth
May 27 10:00:31 <babamelone> I cannot follow the instructions of the wiki as there is no file /etc/asound.conf
May 27 10:03:32 <babamelone> besides, I cannot find the directory in which shr stores the state files
May 27 10:08:01 <babamelone> I really just care about listening to music, not about the phone calls
May 27 11:13:49 <skamster> hello all.. i tried to use the 2.6.34-kernel from mrmoku..
May 27 11:14:25 <skamster> so i've made a hardlink with the name uImage to uImage-2.6.34-oe2+gitr1+dd1225cc08c3375bf80289ac1965c724881b149a-r0-om-gta02.bin in boot
May 27 11:14:45 <skamster> but it seems like it loads just 2.6.29
May 27 11:14:54 <skamster> [17575.103981] usb 4-2: Manufacturer: Linux 2.6.29-rc3 with s3c2410_udc
May 27 11:14:59 <JaMa> Qi or u-boot?
May 27 11:15:07 <skamster> (dmesg from host)
May 27 11:15:09 <skamster> qi
May 27 11:15:26 <JaMa> and 2.6.34 is highly experimental, don't try it unless you really know what you're doing
May 27 11:15:49 <JaMa> show ls -la /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin
May 27 11:15:54 <skamster> i think, i know it enough.. i've backuped everything, so there's no problem :)
May 27 11:16:13 <skamster> ls: /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin: No such file or directory
May 27 11:16:34 <skamster> (also wasn't there before my "upgrade")
May 27 11:17:10 <JaMa> that's what Qi is reading :)
May 27 11:17:22 <JaMa> and it's included in shr images for sure
May 27 11:18:00 <skamster> not on mine.. but you're right, it's a long time ago i do that the last time
May 27 11:18:14 <JaMa> see ie http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100523-om-gta02-testlab/files-in-image.txt 
May 27 11:18:15 <skamster> i try it with a hardlink to this one
May 27 11:18:33 <JaMa> ln -s /boot/uImage /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin
May 27 11:18:44 <JaMa> is what's used in image
May 27 11:18:48 <skamster> why a softlink?
May 27 11:19:08 <JaMa> why hardlink? :)
May 27 11:19:47 <JaMa> and because it's normal to remove uImage and then install updated uImage link
May 27 11:19:55 <skamster> mmh, because it's a more "real" file then, i think.. but maybe not..
May 27 11:20:11 <JaMa> keeping hardlink to /boot/uImage will break your opkg upgrade
May 27 11:20:20 <skamster> ok
May 27 11:20:33 <skamster> aaaand one time more 2.6.29
May 27 11:20:37 <skamster> realy strange
May 27 11:21:17 <JaMa> expect much harder issues to resolve with .34 than setup of Qi :)
May 27 11:22:22 <skamster> yeah, i belive that, but from who could qi load the 2.6.29?
May 27 11:22:41 <JaMa> pastebin ls -la /boot please
May 27 11:22:45 <skamster> i also renamed the original uImage..
May 27 11:23:07 <JaMa> skamster: aren't you booting from NAND?
May 27 11:23:23 <skamster> ok.. i try it once again with softlinks, moment.. 
May 27 11:24:02 <skamster> i still use the nand.. i've got a noboot on the sd-card because i won't start qtmoko yet
May 27 11:24:10 <JaMa> lol
May 27 11:24:18 <JaMa> then you can rm -rf /boot
May 27 11:24:28 <skamster> ??
May 27 11:24:38 <JaMa> and please update kernel in kernel partition (Qi nor u-boot) is using /boot on nand
May 27 11:24:52 <JaMa> and it explains why your image didn't have /boot/uImage-GTA02
May 27 11:24:54 <skamster> no, on my microsd-card is qtmoko, on my nand is shr
May 27 11:25:12 <JaMa> yes I understand that
May 27 11:25:13 <skamster> qtmoko contains a noboot, so it starts shr
May 27 11:25:16 <skamster> ah, ok..
May 27 11:25:22 <skamster> what's wrong then?
May 27 11:25:46 <JaMa> Qi nor u-boot is NOT using /boot on nand
May 27 11:25:53 <JaMa> sorry I forgot "NOT" :)
May 27 11:26:14 <skamster> ok.. this is the first time i hear that..
May 27 11:26:28 <skamster> where's the kernel from?
May 27 11:26:33 <skamster> qi?
May 27 11:26:36 <JaMa> you can read it on few year old article on wiki :)
May 27 11:27:09 <skamster> mmh, ok.. do you have a link or so?
May 27 11:27:31 <JaMa> Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=122, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name="kernel"
May 27 11:27:34 <JaMa> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_partitions
May 27 11:27:38 <skamster> argh
May 27 11:27:43 <JaMa> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi
May 27 11:27:44 <skamster> argh argh argh argh
May 27 11:27:45 <skamster> damn
May 27 11:27:54 <skamster> i really forgot that
May 27 11:28:08 <skamster> thanks
May 27 11:28:10 <skamster> :D
May 27 11:28:35 <JaMa> I advise you to try 2.6.32.13-oe1 instead of .34
May 27 11:29:04 <JaMa> this could work if you follow readme from shr-kms
May 27 11:29:36 <JaMa> .34 needs additional steps (which I didn't describe in README, because I have proper fix in my branch already)
May 27 11:31:49 <skamster> but what didn't work with 34?
May 27 11:32:52 <JaMa> calibration/resume/unreliable usbnet
May 27 11:33:28 <skamster> ok.. and 32 is "stable"?
May 27 11:34:04 <JaMa> usable for me, but ie Rui tested yesterday and had big issues
May 27 11:34:35 <JaMa> 2.6.32.13-oe2 has known bug so try 2.6.32.13-oe1 as I said
May 27 11:35:56 <skamster> ok.. i try for now 34.. i could change it then, but first, i want to look how it works
May 27 11:36:42 <skamster> should the xserver start (without changes)?
May 27 11:36:50 <JaMa> no
May 27 11:37:00 <skamster> ok..
May 27 11:37:03 <JaMa> you have to run that script first
May 27 11:37:26 <skamster> switch-for-kernel?
May 27 11:37:33 <JaMa> y
May 27 11:37:52 <JaMa> you can run it before reboot
May 27 11:44:37 <skamster> xserver starts, but just with a white screen.. so i also couldn't start xinput_calibrator
May 27 11:45:07 <JaMa> did you run that script? it's updating xorg.conf
May 27 11:45:11 <skamster> is this a issue you also seen?
May 27 11:45:15 <skamster> jap
May 27 11:45:18 <skamster> and reboot
May 27 11:45:29 <JaMa> start xserver from cmdline
May 27 11:45:34 <JaMa> and check output
May 27 11:45:49 <skamster> ./switch-for-kernel new
May 27 11:47:44 <skamster> [3650494.772] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Power Button"
May 27 11:47:59 <JaMa> skamster: that's normal
May 27 11:48:01 <skamster> the rest looks good
May 27 11:48:03 <skamster> ok..
May 27 11:48:14 <JaMa> skamster: enlightenment_start.oe
May 27 11:48:21 <skamster> strange.. xserver seems to be started..
May 27 11:49:12 <skamster> i make a restart
May 27 11:50:23 <skamster> ah, now it does start
May 27 11:54:19 <skamster> do you know which process must be killed to remove the touchscreenblocker? (shr-today or so, earlyer)
May 27 11:54:54 <JaMa> phoneuid
May 27 12:03:30 <skamster> it's realy strange.. xserver works, but it doesn't show xinput_calibrator the right way..
May 27 12:04:04 <JaMa> and how does it show it?
May 27 12:04:44 <skamster> i think, it shows the right thing.. crosses in all edges
May 27 12:05:02 <skamster> one by one.. but the image is since 10 minutes the same
May 27 12:05:21 <skamster> also when i restart xinput_cal
May 27 12:06:34 <JaMa> you can pick calibration from this commit http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/9443415dca2acc370a51656b10af1bdd611cc05e
May 27 12:07:25 <JaMa> skamster: and remove all kernel driver calibration from 89xTs* Xsession script (to be able to use this calibration also with older kernels
May 27 12:09:04 <skamster> could you tell me which files?
May 27 12:09:11 <skamster> to delete and to modify?
May 27 12:10:35 <JaMa> copy that pointercal.xinput to /etc/pointercal.xinput
May 27 12:11:25 <skamster> ok
May 27 12:11:27 <skamster> many thanks
May 27 12:11:34 <JaMa> and in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89xTs* remove all lines like here http://gitorious.org/~jama/angstrom/jama-shr-experimental/commit/651fb85bf19b2a5217919117a3171fca55c2a70a
May 27 12:12:34 <skamster> pointercal.xinput from om-gta02-folder, i think?
May 27 12:12:55 <JaMa> yes
May 27 12:16:56 <skamster> on my shr, there was just a /etc/pointercal, but i saved it now with the name /etc/pointercal.xinput
May 27 12:17:08 <skamster> should /etc/pointercal be deleted?
May 27 12:17:31 <JaMa> grr
May 27 12:17:52 <JaMa> /etc/pointercal is something else
May 27 12:18:04 <JaMa> (for tslib driver not evdev)
May 27 12:18:12 <skamster> ah, ok.. just because of the similiar name and content..
May 27 12:18:22 <skamster> then let's reboot :)
May 27 14:32:11 <sola> can some one clarify me, using free runner debug board itself jtag debugging can be done or we need other jtag hardware and connect to debug board
May 27 14:36:48 <Tembos> I have the debug board v3 and a neo1973, I'm doing jtag debugging with it, no need other board
May 27 14:41:52 <sola> Tembos, thank you...so the 20 pin header given on debug board can be used to debug other boards like beagle or hawkboard?
May 27 14:49:24 <sola> Tembos, i am new to jtag & boards...another doubt, whether the debug board is USB powered or need external supply
May 27 14:54:57 <Tembos> I don't know/use other jtag board, can't answer that question.
May 27 14:55:30 <Tembos> the debug board v3 (at least that I have) no need external supply is usb powerd
May 27 14:58:10 <sola> Tembos, ok thank you
May 27 14:59:35 <mjr> yeah. That also means that if you have the phone on the debug board USB hub, you won't really be charging it, though.
May 27 16:16:40 <PaulFertser> Tembos: so what was the culprit, how did you make it work?
May 27 16:43:27 <slaxxer> watisit
May 27 18:12:20 <Linkas> hi. I have shr unstable 23 May and I can't  connect via sftp with neo. I suppose that she doesn't contain sftp packege. Which package should I install??
May 27 18:12:32 <Linkas> she- neo
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