**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 01 02:59:57 2010
Jun 01 03:15:31 <slaxxer> so which is now prefered/ opkg-repo?
Jun 01 03:15:58 <slaxxer> come on doc
Jun 01 05:05:41 <undrwater> why does calibration not change when i go to landscape?
Jun 01 06:11:28 <PaulFertser> Tembos: (opkg.org) fyi every decent package should be submitted to SHR devs for inclusion into OE, instead of creating ad-hoc repositories.
Jun 01 06:24:56 <JaMa> undrwater: xrandr breaks xinput calibration, it was discussed on ML yesterday
Jun 01 13:11:03 <Ar|stote|is> is there anyone from Greece here?
Jun 01 20:46:27 <Ar|stote|is> how can i add text on the Name field in Contacts using shr ?
Jun 01 20:48:46 <badcloud> Ar|stote|is: I think you have to press on the pencil icon
Jun 01 20:48:57 <Bane^> yep
Jun 01 20:48:57 <badcloud> Ar|stote|is: and then press the text field
Jun 01 20:49:08 <badcloud> but you can
Jun 01 20:49:28 <badcloud> 't do that when the item is highlighted/selected
Jun 01 20:49:31 <Ar|stote|is> every new version gets more complicated oO
Jun 01 20:49:41 <badcloud> Ar|stote|is: I know... :P
Jun 01 20:50:02 <Ar|stote|is> btw anyone here have used android on the FR ?
Jun 01 20:50:06 <badcloud> that's why I stick to qtmoko. hasn't changed much
Jun 01 20:50:17 <Bane^> Complicated? :P
Jun 01 20:50:42 <badcloud> Bane^: it took me forever as well to figure out the text input in contacs
Jun 01 20:51:03 <Bane^> It's not that hard
Jun 01 20:51:10 <Ar|stote|is> i have the 05 revidion and i have broken my AUX button, thats why its ot that easy changing distros 
Jun 01 20:51:22 <Bane^> okay, maybe the icon doesn't even look like a pencil but anyway
Jun 01 20:51:30 <Ar|stote|is> i have to disassemble it and press the button while holding the pins together.
Jun 01 20:51:45 <Ar|stote|is> i pressed on that icon but i thought it was like a delete warning or something
Jun 01 20:51:56 <Ar|stote|is> it never occured to me being a pencil
Jun 01 20:52:02 <badcloud> Bane^: forget the way it looks. to have to remember not to highlight the item first, *then* click on the pencil icon, and *THEN* on the text field
Jun 01 20:52:12 <badcloud> it's just too much for something sooo simple
Jun 01 20:52:23 <Ar|stote|is> another thing is how can i see on what point is the tango gps getting signal ?
Jun 01 20:52:57 <badcloud> Ar|stote|is: that one I don't know. haven't used tango much
Jun 01 20:53:25 <Ar|stote|is> i don't want to try and solder the aux button myself cuz i think ill solder the pins together. im not that good in delicate soldering
Jun 01 20:55:26 <Ar|stote|is> i have to find someone able to do it.
Jun 01 21:17:47 <Tembos> this is so frustrating
Jun 01 21:18:11 <Tembos> since saturday was trying to have a working phone with shr
Jun 01 21:18:18 <Tembos> can't made it
Jun 01 21:19:04 <Tembos> today I go to Om2009.6 things start to working, at least I can receive a call, but the other person didn't hearme
Jun 01 21:19:19 <Tembos> I receive a sms but can't send
Jun 01 21:19:29 <Tembos> what's now? will try debian
Jun 01 21:21:21 <Tembos> I'm thinking that I have to trash this gta01bv4 and think buy a gta02
Jun 01 21:22:58 <JaMa> Tembos: what's the issue? we're looking for experienced gta01 owner for SHR development/testing..
Jun 01 21:24:00 <JaMa> Tembos: and if nobody step up, current images will be last one for gta01 (as we're going to upgrade kernel and it would need some testing on gta01 too)
Jun 01 21:24:54 <Tembos> got installed the testing (still have the microSD) but can't get working the gsm, the gps, can't make calls, receive it, sms nothing at all, 
Jun 01 21:25:12 <Tembos> I can give you the test
Jun 01 21:25:26 <JaMa> please test rather with unstable
Jun 01 21:25:59 <Tembos> JaMa: ok... will start to download it and tell you later
Jun 01 21:26:24 <JaMa> can you also give me defconfigs for 2.6.32 and 2.6.34 kernels (they should be almost the same as gta02 variants..)
Jun 01 21:27:17 <JaMa> and you'll find broken touchscreen calibration, I would need you to call xinput_calibrator_once and send me /etc/pointercal.xinput which works for you
Jun 01 21:27:29 <Tembos> I know... 
Jun 01 21:27:37 <JaMa> and I'll build newer gta01 image in unstable for you.. so wait a bit with download
Jun 01 21:27:41 <Tembos> the xinput worked well
Jun 01 21:27:48 <Tembos> ok
Jun 01 21:28:10 <Tembos> will download from here http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/  ??
Jun 01 21:28:33 <JaMa> Tembos: on that slow buildhost it will take whole night probably.. so don't wait for it, but please try tomorrow
Jun 01 21:28:36 <JaMa> yes there
Jun 01 21:28:44 <Tembos> ok
Jun 01 21:29:39 <JaMa> and you would need different pointercal.xinput then before.. but ssh should be available after boot
Jun 01 21:31:31 <JaMa> but you can start with pointercal.xinput copied from gta02 and just confirm that the same works for you (it should)
Jun 01 21:33:16 <Tembos> ok
Jun 01 22:30:37 <gena2x> hi all, anyone with known-not-to-work headset can help with expirement?
Jun 01 22:31:18 <gena2x> i mean bluetooth headset
Jun 01 22:32:24 <SpeedEvil> I have one that is known not to work - but it's due to needing a new battery.
Jun 01 22:32:31 <SpeedEvil> Which probably isn't so helpful.
Jun 01 22:32:34 <undrwater> :D
Jun 01 22:32:36 <gena2x> :)
Jun 01 22:32:52 <undrwater> gena2x: what are the terms of the experiment?
Jun 01 22:33:06 <gena2x> i just send few files and instruction
Jun 01 22:33:20 <undrwater> to a headset?
Jun 01 22:33:25 <gena2x> and ask you if it'll work
Jun 01 22:33:32 <undrwater> oh
Jun 01 22:33:36 <undrwater> any distro?
Jun 01 22:33:55 <gena2x> i think something debian-based
Jun 01 22:34:04 <gena2x> not need to do calls
Jun 01 22:34:07 <undrwater> i'm using shr
Jun 01 22:34:30 <gena2x> i'm unsure if all soft will work where
Jun 01 22:34:41 <gena2x> but if you have some spare time we can try
Jun 01 22:35:23 <gena2x> sing?
Jun 01 22:35:27 <gena2x> *sign?
Jun 01 22:35:56 <undrwater> ?
Jun 01 22:36:06 <undrwater> i've got time...
Jun 01 22:36:16 <gena2x> ok, can we start?
Jun 01 22:36:59 <undrwater> sure
Jun 01 22:37:15 <gena2x> ok, now i'll prepare package
Jun 01 22:37:32 <gena2x> (tar.gz)
Jun 01 22:38:10 <undrwater> okie
Jun 01 22:39:09 <gena2x> first, some questions - did you tried your headset before? is it in list of non-working headsets?
Jun 01 22:39:10 <undrwater> brb
Jun 01 22:39:30 <gena2x> k
Jun 01 22:41:36 <undrwater> sorry about that
Jun 01 22:41:49 <undrwater> headset is cardo s800
Jun 01 22:41:56 <undrwater> haven't tried this one yet
Jun 01 22:42:09 <gena2x> so just didn't try?
Jun 01 22:42:17 <undrwater> correct
Jun 01 22:42:17 <gena2x> i wanted something 'not work' :)
Jun 01 22:42:21 <undrwater> ahhh...
Jun 01 22:42:45 <undrwater> well..right now...i can't get anything to work...since the recent shr's
Jun 01 22:42:52 <undrwater> switched from mdbus to mdbus2
Jun 01 22:42:57 <gena2x> :)
Jun 01 22:43:16 <gena2x> i switched from shr, so everything is working now :)
Jun 01 22:43:36 <undrwater> aha...to what?
Jun 01 22:43:46 <gena2x> qtmoko for telephony
Jun 01 22:43:55 <gena2x> debian for experiments
Jun 01 22:44:28 <undrwater> yeah...i like qtmoko for telephony...but not so much for smartphone stuff
Jun 01 22:44:49 <gena2x> underlining debian is enought :)
Jun 01 22:45:13 <gena2x> *underlying
Jun 01 22:45:42 <undrwater> well...i like illume...so debian with illume might be nic
Jun 01 22:45:44 <undrwater> nice
Jun 01 22:46:12 <gena2x> oh, debian itself is not so easy to setup...
Jun 01 22:46:19 <gena2x> but it has illume
Jun 01 22:47:59 <undrwater> i had it in the past...how about phone stuff (besides qtmoko), fso? dialers, etc...
Jun 01 22:48:31 <gena2x> oh, stop, my mistake. no illime in debian. i thought it have
Jun 01 22:48:59 <gena2x>  / checked apt-cache search/
Jun 01 22:49:38 <gena2x> ok. anyone else to test headset?
Jun 01 22:49:49 <gena2x> need non-working one :)
Jun 01 23:14:44 <supermagnum> hi, do anuone here have experience with xinput_calibrator ?
Jun 01 23:15:51 <supermagnum> or know-how relating to fdi files ?
Jun 01 23:18:36 <supermagnum> xinput calibrator cannot find any configurable devices
Jun 01 23:20:29 <undrwater> supermagnum: shr?
Jun 01 23:20:41 <supermagnum> huh?
Jun 01 23:20:52 <undrwater> are you using shr?
Jun 01 23:21:22 <supermagnum> no, its linux..  ubuntu 9.10
Jun 01 23:21:31 <undrwater> there was a recent problem introduced in shr with xinput_calibrator...thought you were referring to this
Jun 01 23:21:45 <supermagnum> the hardware is there, according to HAL
Jun 01 23:22:11 <undrwater> what's the device?
Jun 01 23:22:34 <supermagnum> '/dev/input/event9'
Jun 01 23:22:53 <supermagnum> 'LBPS/2 Fujitsu Lifebook TouchScreen
Jun 01 23:23:23 <undrwater> maybe a #ubuntu would be better place to ask...
Jun 01 23:23:35 <supermagnum> i have asked, but nohelp there
Jun 01 23:23:39 <undrwater> :)
Jun 01 23:24:06 <undrwater> what are you trying to do?
Jun 01 23:24:17 <supermagnum> get it to work.. 
Jun 01 23:24:32 <supermagnum> i thinkmy fdi file si wrong
Jun 01 23:24:37 <supermagnum> is*
Jun 01 23:25:48 * mwester is reminded of the man searching beneath a street light; a passer-by asks, is informed that he lost his contact lens, and the passer-by helps search.  An hour later, no luck.  Finally, the passer-by asks the man if he's sure he lost it there, beneath that street lamp.  The man says, "No.  I lost it over there."  "Why then have been searching HERE!" shouts the good samaritan... "Because it's dark over there" responds the man.
Jun 01 23:25:57 <supermagnum> the file is at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
Jun 01 23:26:50 <supermagnum> but that file is different, according to a page that has a solution on the problem
Jun 01 23:27:11 <undrwater> mwester: lol
Jun 01 23:27:45 <supermagnum> http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=3&ved=0CCcQFjAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Flaunchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F577256&ei=Y5cFTMKkEcqXOLiY_IUF&usg=AFQjCNEMWQSJuYhtDgTNnzgu4VSBOWIbHw
Jun 01 23:28:03 <gena2x> mwester: :)
Jun 01 23:29:27 <supermagnum> the thing that puzzles me is that xinput config cannot find thedevice..
Jun 01 23:29:28 <undrwater> a streetlight with more activity and help might be #gentoo...just don't tell them you're using ubuntu
Jun 01 23:29:38 <supermagnum> maybe it is a bug ?
Jun 01 23:30:02 <supermagnum> ah, i will try there..
Jun 01 23:30:31 <gena2x> hm. nice.
Jun 01 23:40:19 <supermagnum> no help there..
Jun 02 01:06:18 <hipitihop> can anyone recommend how to partion setup my sd for swap + normal sd storage, should I create ext3 + swap partition or something else
Jun 02 01:11:23 <hipitihop> please ignore, found page on wiki
Jun 02 01:31:29 <hipitihop> I want to setup and enable swap on an sd card. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SwapSpace seems quite involved. I have already created a swap partion on the sd card using gparted.
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