**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 24 02:59:58 2010 Jun 24 04:36:30 Fox_M|afk: (logrotate) good question, we shouldn't forget to ask mickey|zzZZzz about it. Jun 24 08:38:05 hello all.. i've got a strange situation.. Jun 24 08:38:20 i want to flash my openmoko with dfu-util.. Jun 24 08:38:45 it does find the rootfs-partition, but not kernel and u-boot.. Jun 24 08:38:50 i don't know why.. Jun 24 08:39:39 as a secondary system, i've qtmoko on a sd-card (maybe to anaylise or so, in that case) Jun 24 08:39:59 hope, someone could help me her.. Jun 24 08:40:02 *here Jun 24 08:41:15 are you using NOR uboot to flash? Jun 24 08:42:29 yes Jun 24 08:42:58 hm... what's the error? Jun 24 08:43:24 No such Alternate Setting: "u-boot" Jun 24 08:43:39 it looks like that parition isn't exists.. Jun 24 08:43:51 can it boot system from nand? Jun 24 08:43:51 *partition Jun 24 08:44:17 not yet, because i tried one time some things with kernel 2.6.32 Jun 24 08:44:41 but do it load kernel? Jun 24 08:44:51 it tried.. Jun 24 08:45:10 but there's something wrong.. i also tried to replace names with nr's Jun 24 08:45:28 3 for kernel, as example Jun 24 08:45:42 this seems to work.. but in the end, it doesn't Jun 24 08:46:01 (it doesn't start but seems to flash correctly) Jun 24 08:46:44 i'm really unsure if nubmers is valid replacement Jun 24 08:47:22 i'm also not shure.. it was just a try :) Jun 24 08:47:51 i think that "no alternate setting" means wrong uboot configuration Jun 24 08:48:07 but is it possible to check on my sd-card-qtmoko if the names are exist? Jun 24 08:48:41 wrong u-boot-config? i think, i couldn't change that, because it's in nor.. Jun 24 08:48:43 ? Jun 24 08:48:57 but i also think that it's impossible to change NOR uboot config... hmmm.. Jun 24 08:49:43 with jtag it's possible, i think :) but i've got no debug-board, so for me it is.. Jun 24 08:50:05 how about nand uboot? Jun 24 08:50:46 i'm also not able to reflash the nand-uboot Jun 24 08:50:55 it got the same failure.. Jun 24 08:53:28 and i've got qi there... Jun 24 08:53:30 right now Jun 24 08:54:56 maybe it's also a problem on my computer.. i use kubuntu 10.04 now Jun 24 08:55:27 hm. i am not so expert in mtd partitioning, so have no ready answer for you... Jun 24 08:55:39 and if i do dfu-util --list , that's the result: Jun 24 08:55:42 Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=21, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs" Jun 24 08:55:43 Found Runtime: [0x413c:0x8142] devnum=3, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=0, name="UNDEFINED" Jun 24 08:56:43 ok.. thanks anyway :) Jun 24 08:56:48 skamster: did you try to provide -d 0x1d50:0x5119 ? Jun 24 08:57:09 yes Jun 24 08:57:21 dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a 3 -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin Jun 24 08:57:28 or with -a kernel Jun 24 08:57:37 skamster: I haven't read whole backlog, but it looks like you see both partitions, but you have to select device first Jun 24 08:58:25 how could i select the device first? Jun 24 08:58:40 that's the -d param Jun 24 08:58:56 for me, that was the normal way for the last time.. Jun 24 08:59:04 what should i change? Jun 24 08:59:11 -d is the first argument.. Jun 24 08:59:17 skamster: do you have NOR u-boot started right? Jun 24 08:59:22 yes Jun 24 08:59:37 JaMa: but if he can flash rootfs... Jun 24 08:59:47 and -a rootfs works but -a kernel and -a u-boot doesnt, right? Jun 24 08:59:58 yes Jun 24 09:00:25 so something wrong with how uboot detects partitions Jun 24 09:00:29 also the --list gaves me a DFU which looks like the root-partition Jun 24 09:01:41 skamster: ah sorry than no idea (just seen similar error here few times without -d when it tried to flash my BT dongle or whatever was used as dfu target instead of neo.. Jun 24 09:02:13 skamster: we'll find solution soon :) Jun 24 09:02:46 skamster: uboot should have something like partition table Jun 24 09:02:56 skamster: we should recreate it. Jun 24 09:03:54 that's also a bit strange effect.. if i try right after the start the --list-argument, it tells me this Jun 24 09:03:55 Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=25, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name="USB Device Firmware Upgrade" Jun 24 09:04:09 gena2x: uboot does have something like that IIRC Jun 24 09:04:12 instead of the rootfs-output Jun 24 09:05:17 ok. Jun 24 09:05:23 go to uboot console Jun 24 09:06:12 set console to usb? Jun 24 09:06:15 (boot uboot and run something like minicom on /dev/ttyACM0) Jun 24 09:06:22 no Jun 24 09:06:34 uboot ifself have console Jun 24 09:06:45 ok.. Jun 24 09:06:49 you can connect it with usual terminal program. Jun 24 09:07:09 yes, that's clear.. i mean in the u-boot-menu Jun 24 09:07:09 check in /dev, it appears while uboot is booted. Jun 24 09:07:37 have i change to u-boot's usb-console-menu-point? Jun 24 09:07:52 no Jun 24 09:07:58 ok :) Jun 24 09:08:02 just keep uboot running Jun 24 09:08:19 i never took access to this console Jun 24 09:08:24 (press aux from time to time) Jun 24 09:08:33 to not let it timeout Jun 24 09:09:12 yes, that's something i know :) i just never used the u-boot-console and very less minicom Jun 24 09:09:25 oh, minicom has 'double-characher' bug than iteracting with minicom Jun 24 09:09:39 reople using some other terminal... Jun 24 09:10:30 mmh, i've accessed now with minicom.. Jun 24 09:11:12 what should i do now? Jun 24 09:11:50 where is command mtdparts Jun 24 09:11:54 *there Jun 24 09:11:57 mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x00040000(u-boot),0x00040000(u-boot_env),0x00800000(kernel),0x000a0000(splash)) Jun 24 09:12:04 that was on start Jun 24 09:12:22 http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootCmdGroupFlash#Section_5.9.3.5 Jun 24 09:12:55 http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootCmdGroupFlash#Section_5.9.3.5. Jun 24 09:15:47 can you just run 'mtdparts' command on uboot console? Jun 24 09:15:54 but what's your idea? Jun 24 09:15:56 ok.. Jun 24 09:16:29 something wrong with partition configuration Jun 24 09:16:48 i am trying to find out what is wrong. Jun 24 09:16:57 http://pastebin.com/V73wxGKm Jun 24 09:17:14 aaaah Jun 24 09:17:15 :D Jun 24 09:17:32 i've got a idea about the nr.. it could work, but 3 != kernel.. Jun 24 09:18:07 but 0 in fact is both in nor and nand ... Jun 24 09:18:36 seem their full names are 'nor0,0' Jun 24 09:19:02 or 'nand0,3' Jun 24 09:19:15 but seem your uboot is ok. Jun 24 09:19:46 so only things still can be wrong is dfu-util Jun 24 09:19:53 of usb connection. Jun 24 09:19:56 damn :s Jun 24 09:20:05 i don't believe in usb connection. Jun 24 09:21:12 you're right Jun 24 09:21:19 so, can you try other version of dfu-util Jun 24 09:21:30 i've downloaded the binary from openmoko.org Jun 24 09:21:33 this works Jun 24 09:21:54 so problem solved? Jun 24 09:22:11 yes yes yes :D Jun 24 09:22:14 thanks Jun 24 09:22:33 ok, have nice day :) Jun 24 09:23:09 thanks, i will have it ;) you too Jun 24 09:35:14 ah, and another question: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix which fix is the better one? with better quality and with the lower risk to destroy something? Jun 24 09:35:57 was there once a comparasation? (betwen paul's and andy's fix) Jun 24 09:38:38 skamster: PaulFertser itself is best expert on question. Jun 24 09:39:14 skamster: also he is quite responsive, so just wait for his answer :) Jun 24 09:39:30 PaulFertser itself? :) Jun 24 09:40:09 Weiss: i mean that he is in the chat Jun 24 09:40:49 Weiss: and you? ;) Jun 24 09:41:23 :) I was noticing "itself" instead of "himself" Jun 24 09:42:09 Weiss: ops. my English is far far far from ideal. Jun 24 09:42:14 hehe, it's ok Jun 24 10:01:28 http://qtmoko.org/ Jun 24 10:01:33 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded Jun 24 10:01:35 :( Jun 24 10:41:47 had someone some expiriences with mcnavi? Jun 24 10:42:24 i've downloaded a map and gave this one as a argument on the programmstart Jun 24 10:42:52 but it found 0 countrys and got a "Bad POI part" Jun 24 10:58:58 Weiss: :))) Jun 24 10:59:15 yeah yeah. funny funny Jun 24 10:59:22 :) Jun 24 10:59:56 skamster: hm, can you easily source caps that small to do Andy's fix? Jun 24 11:03:47 skamster: I think that newer mcnavi (not yet in feed iirc) needs newer maps, maybe new maps are not backwards compatible and you have incompatible combination.. Jun 24 11:12:17 PaulFertser: me not, i'm not so good @ hardware.. but a friend of me is a very good electronic, so he could do, i think Jun 24 11:12:26 is andy's fix better then? Jun 24 11:13:28 skamster: theoretically, 100uF is better than 50uF, and finding tantalum caps is easier. But some european distro decided to go by Andy's route, probably they know better. Jun 24 11:17:12 PaulFertser: so also the sound-quality should be better with your fix? andy's fix looks a bit smaller, maybe because of that (for other hacks in the near of this one or so)? Jun 24 11:17:48 or, not directly smaller but not weired :) Jun 24 11:18:55 skamster: what i know is that even after i did the fix not all headphones worked decently with my FR. Jun 24 11:19:14 skamster: probably that's extra 30 Ohm in series, i haven't tried to short those yet. Jun 24 11:19:52 skamster: we tried it on gena2x's device but didn't have enough time to compare the results. Jun 24 11:21:54 mmh.. what do you recommend at all? Jun 24 11:21:59 i trust you :) Jun 24 11:22:40 30 ohm in series should not greatly affect it Jun 24 11:22:45 3dB down isn't that bad. Jun 24 11:22:52 (my hw-knowledge is really bad, but the fix-friend will explain me some basic things then) Jun 24 11:23:07 It will slightly affect volume, but not noticably if you're not directly comparing. Jun 24 11:23:33 so paul's fix with which hw exactly? Jun 24 11:29:23 SpeedEvil: yes, but how can you explain that with some headphones my FR sounds approximately the same as my portable player, but others (that work ok with the player) sounds strange? Jun 24 11:29:49 yeah. and default headphones sounds TERRIBLE Jun 24 11:30:11 plain inaudible, with or without fix. Jun 24 11:30:23 skamster: i'd recommend you to do what is easier for you and your friend. If he can easily get 50uF small caps, do it the Andy's way. If not -- well, get tantalum and do it like me. Jun 24 11:30:39 (i got used to relatively good audio systems) Jun 24 11:31:28 but with my other headset - it's very audible. Jun 24 11:31:49 so my recommedation is just to throw away default headset asap. Jun 24 11:32:15 gena2x: no, they can be used to source 4-ring jack. Jun 24 11:32:44 PaulFertser: oh, yes. you right. this is right usage for that headset. Jun 24 11:33:17 PaulFertser: i am insure, but you may try to use it as source of wire also :) Jun 24 11:33:41 PaulFertser: and also use magnets from speakers to hold paper on you fridge. Jun 24 11:36:37 oh, or they have no magnet... Jun 24 15:23:25 gena2x: hey, what's wrong with Hans? Jun 24 15:24:24 gena2x: btw, i had bad experience recently with reiserfs after a power outage. Jun 24 15:25:41 gena2x: and thanks for doing that test and for sharing, nice job. Jun 24 15:27:49 PaulFertser: Hans from my pov is poor stupid geek, but may mail not related to this and this not a topic i like to discuss. Jun 24 15:29:33 PaulFertser: i also bad xp with reiser in past, but i also had good expierence. also i think that reiserfs3 is well tested for 10 years :) Jun 24 15:30:38 PaulFertser: i hope people will follow my xp all publish thier investigations too :) Jun 24 15:31:05 PaulFertser: also may be someone will tell something useful on topic. Jun 24 15:31:54 PaulFertser: what were you xp with that fs exactly? Jun 24 15:42:58 mickey|zzZZzz, hi Jun 24 15:43:02 Maybe I find a bug Jun 24 15:43:14 in your muxer libe Jun 24 15:43:16 in your muxer lib Jun 24 15:43:31 are you there? Jun 24 15:47:03 panicking_mike: he's gone to rest Jun 24 15:47:13 (as in, sleep that is) Jun 24 15:48:07 ok Jun 24 16:03:31 panicking_mike: hi! Jun 24 16:03:54 Hi Jun 24 16:04:16 panicking_mike: have you forgot about I've asked for an android image that could be installed on uSD? Jun 24 16:05:22 yes, sorry I'm very busy Jun 24 16:05:28 do you have skype? Jun 24 17:22:45 re Jun 24 17:35:02 hello all! Jun 24 17:35:35 i have a question, someone have a vodafone sim? Jun 24 17:37:01 me Jun 24 17:37:18 it works on freerunner Jun 24 17:37:29 my sim version Jun 24 17:39:46 with a 128 k? Jun 24 17:39:49 :-/ Jun 24 17:40:15 panicking_mike: on my android on freerunner nu.. and i need it! Jun 24 17:40:39 the sim can't register to network Jun 24 17:40:50 not good not nice Jun 24 17:40:51 :) Jun 24 17:40:56 eheh Jun 24 17:40:59 yaya Jun 24 17:41:12 I need to push some changes Jun 24 17:41:18 on the muxer Jun 24 17:41:22 I have done some fixes Jun 24 17:41:25 in other devices Jun 24 17:41:31 so maybe I can report there Jun 24 17:41:33 this change Jun 24 17:41:34 me to .. Jun 24 17:41:37 and see what happen Jun 24 17:41:58 i have an other phone i have tried to change some sim configuration .. but no result .. Jun 24 17:42:01 what have you done? Jun 24 17:42:55 do you use some spells? :-) Jun 24 17:43:22 There was a bug in the write part, it needs a loop if it write less byte Jun 24 17:43:24 that is requirement Jun 24 17:43:29 can you send me a logcat Jun 24 17:43:31 of the radio Jun 24 17:43:35 to my email? Jun 24 17:43:49 adb logcat radio is correct? Jun 24 17:43:58 yes of course Jun 24 17:45:52 kBit: surely you've already upgraded the gsm firmware? Jun 24 17:46:22 yes yes yet tried Jun 24 17:46:34 kBit: tried or done? Jun 24 17:47:14 done, with green message Jun 24 17:47:24 but no changes .. Jun 24 17:48:10 kBit: then clean the contacts, ensure the card mechanically fits etc. Jun 24 17:48:28 kBit: there was no single report of a non-working GSM SIM with moko11. Jun 24 17:48:39 i haven't contact on sim Jun 24 17:48:42 uuu Jun 24 17:48:45 kBit: electrical contact Jun 24 17:48:47 yaya i have read .. Jun 24 17:49:05 with a wind sim all work fine .. Jun 24 17:49:15 only on this new sim 128k vodafone Jun 24 17:49:42 kBit: very strange Jun 24 17:50:29 yaya Jun 24 17:51:18 i'm doing a logcat radio Jun 24 17:55:35 ok i have the file Jun 24 17:55:57 panicking_mike: could i send you? Jun 24 17:56:14 kBit: pastebin it Jun 24 17:56:19 panicking_mike: and yeah, HI :) Jun 24 17:56:32 re. once again. Jun 24 17:56:42 panicking_mike: i see you're still busy with android :) Jun 24 17:58:07 PaulFertser: do you have any interest in android? Jun 24 17:58:08 http://pastebin.com/0pjUn93Z Jun 24 17:59:20 undrwater: not even slightest ;) Jun 24 17:59:49 mm boh Jun 24 18:00:59 kBit: hm, no output from ril Jun 24 18:01:46 from ril? Jun 24 18:02:01 kBit: yes, i can't see any gsm problems in your log Jun 24 18:02:19 kBit: probably that's lack of logging in ril Jun 24 18:02:25 i don't know .. what is the ril? Jun 24 18:02:37 kBit: but you should know better: it's you who's android user, not me ;) Jun 24 18:02:51 kBit: i guess that's the library that does actual modem communication. Jun 24 18:03:31 uu yaya it's real .. -.-" sorry .. Jun 24 18:03:50 PaulFertser: i played around with BT again, and got more success Jun 24 18:03:55 headset Jun 24 18:04:13 but i don't know how to debug the library .. sorry kaikai Jun 24 18:04:23 got some noise like it connected, but not audio from gsm Jun 24 18:11:25 undrwater: I have BT-GSM working Jun 24 18:11:35 undrwater: do you use android? Jun 24 18:19:49 Gabrys: not curently....shr Jun 24 18:20:13 Gabrys: gsm bt on android working Jun 24 18:20:37 do you have working gsm bt on android? Jun 24 18:20:51 ? Jun 24 18:20:55 that was a question :) Jun 24 18:20:58 ok Jun 24 18:21:01 I have :-) Jun 24 18:21:18 I need to run a small program though Jun 24 18:21:22 i will try soon...but i haven't really liked android on freerunner Jun 24 18:22:23 i am going to need a 3g phone soon... Jun 24 18:22:40 not really interested in BB, or iPhone Jun 24 18:22:56 i like palm's webOS...but not the hardware Jun 24 18:23:03 not many other choices Jun 24 21:51:35 <|if3> how do you make an edj? Jun 24 22:46:59 |if3: edje_cc Jun 24 22:47:10 <|if3> yeah thanks Jun 24 22:47:11 |if3: and edje_decc to decompile Jun 24 22:47:11 <|if3> :) Jun 24 22:47:22 <|if3> I have a habbit of hitting up irc before google :/ Jun 24 22:47:25 <|if3> thanks though pal Jun 24 22:47:38 <|if3> i have a question, what distro are you running on your phone? Jun 24 22:47:56 i3n: i run Debian with FSO2 from git. Jun 24 22:48:12 i3n: sorry for the accidental highlight Jun 24 22:48:33 |if3: and my Emacs UI for FSO to actually place/receive calls and messages. Jun 24 22:49:03 <|if3> cool :O Jun 24 22:53:02 alt-x answer-call :) Jun 24 22:55:08 <|if3> hmm Jun 24 22:55:13 <|if3> here's a question I can't figure out Jun 24 22:55:26 <|if3> I've done it before, but since I had to flash my phone again, I can't figure it out for the life of me Jun 24 22:55:52 <|if3> I have my .desktop file with all the other .desktop files on my phone Jun 24 22:55:54 <|if3> shr btw Jun 24 22:56:14 <|if3> i cp'd an existing one to enlightenment-reconfig.desktop Jun 24 22:56:37 <|if3> then I edited it, the icon is working and the file is showing up on the desktop, exceptttt Jun 24 22:56:53 <|if3> it says "enlightenment failed to open /usr/bin/enlightenment-reconfig.sh" Jun 24 22:57:03 <|if3> even though that bash file is there Jun 24 22:57:17 <|if3> it just executes two commands (one to change the theme, and another to restart enlightement) Jun 24 22:57:26 <|if3> and I am stumpeddd Jun 24 22:58:14 <|if3> i'm going to check my backups, but i fret that the sh isn't in there lol Jun 24 22:58:33 |if3: probably it has no +x set? Jun 24 22:58:38 <|if3> omfg Jun 24 22:58:45 * |if3 smashes head into keyboard Jun 24 22:58:49 <|if3> tyvm Jun 24 22:58:52 <|if3> fuck Jun 24 22:59:02 gena2x: heh, after i needed to answer a call while driving a car, i added a function and binded it to the aux key the same evening :) Jun 24 22:59:45 <|if3> thanks man Jun 24 22:59:45 <|if3> :D Jun 24 22:59:48 |if3: i've another funny problem with illume: it shows only some of the .desktop files, and i can't on earth figure a difference between working and non-working ones. Jun 24 22:59:53 * |if3 can't wait until another shr rollout comes out Jun 24 23:00:00 PaulFertser: hmmm... emacs while driving car.... Jun 24 23:00:17 <|if3> PaulFertser, me either, I was having that problem, so I just copied an existing one over Jun 24 23:00:38 gena2x: well, whenever i have an incoming call, emacs automatically opens a buffer with calls and i can press on screen on the "Answer" button. Jun 24 23:00:39 <|if3> because even though i 'replicated' one, it still wouldn't work Jun 24 23:00:46 gena2x: but hardware button is more comfortable. Jun 24 23:00:51 |if3: exactly same here Jun 24 23:01:22 <|if3> I should have scp'd /var/logs/ and uploaded them as bug reports, there was a ton of shit wrong with the new shr image Jun 24 23:02:03 |if3: do not forget that the better you analise the problem and prepare the report, the more chances for it to be fixed promptly. Jun 24 23:02:11 <|if3> gsm modem would sporadically stop working, it wouldn't let me delete sms messages, as my inbox was full; even though shr couldn't 'find' the messages? Jun 24 23:02:17 <|if3> yeah Jun 24 23:02:29 |if3: are you talking about SHR unstable? Jun 24 23:02:43 |if3: i'm using basically the same FSO version here. Jun 24 23:02:51 <|if3> same goes with everything though, :P. If you outline the issues; and more-or-less pinpoint the dev's to fixing it, the higher the chance that it'll get fixed Jun 24 23:02:59 <|if3> yeah, Jun 24 23:03:01 <|if3> yeah.* Jun 24 23:03:21 <|if3> I'm happy with the install :D Jun 24 23:03:29 <|if3> hopefully it doesn't break again :P Jun 24 23:03:33 |if3: i do not get major problems often with it, filed 2 bugreports on shr trac so far. Jun 24 23:03:48 <|if3> I was at a point (with my old install) where I had to delete two text messages to recieve one. lol Jun 24 23:03:56 <|if3> :O Jun 24 23:04:29 <|if3> that's awesome Jun 24 23:04:47 <|if3> I don't totally understand how 'diverse' each OM phone could be Jun 24 23:05:00 <|if3> it's almost the exact same hardware in each of them (except for the workarounds) Jun 24 23:05:22 PaulFertser: this _really_ impress me much. wish i'll found some time to setup fso and try it. Jun 24 23:05:24 <|if3> the only thing that'd change is the GSM provider, and I presume that they're all operating to standards... Jun 24 23:05:33 |if3: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/561 and http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/566 Jun 24 23:05:47 gena2x: heh, only if you like emacs ;0 Jun 24 23:06:09 PaulFertser: emacs is my editor of choise since 2002. Jun 24 23:06:14 |if3: it must be usage patterns different then. Jun 24 23:06:44 gena2x: btw, i'm open to integration with other middleware that provides dbus or socket interface. Jun 24 23:06:44 <|if3> but even then Jun 24 23:06:45 <|if3> lol Jun 24 23:06:53 <|if3> im using it solely for sms+calling Jun 24 23:07:38 gena2x: (setup fso) you can run SHR-u from NAND or from uSD easily, and emacs23 is in the feeds. Jun 24 23:08:36 PaulFertser: in fact i didn't used it on fr because of slow startup, and being hungry for memory for emacs-server with emacsclient. that's reason i am using mc -e frequently. Jun 24 23:09:08 but now, as 34 is much better i notice i am using emacs -nw more and more. Jun 24 23:09:45 PaulFertser: of course, emacs is installed in my debian :) Jun 24 23:10:44 gena2x: it's really slow on startup if it can't reach dns servers, that's what i know for sure. Jun 24 23:11:15 PaulFertser: but i really don't like shr: slow kernel, busybox, some aspects of e, exotic languages, unstable, exotic and annoying package management. Jun 24 23:11:24 gena2x: agreed Jun 24 23:11:33 gena2x: no wonder i'm using debian too :) Jun 24 23:12:37 Weiss: hi :) Jun 24 23:12:59 Weiss: should rotation work in .34 from yesterday git? Jun 24 23:13:11 with KMS? Jun 24 23:13:17 Weiss: without. Jun 24 23:13:42 I think rotation worked but QVGA didn't when I tested.. maybe the other way round Jun 24 23:13:54 with KMS, for me, both work the first time but rotation breaks the second time Jun 24 23:14:03 Weiss: i am getting almost white screen which relatively slowly getting white. Jun 24 23:14:19 Weiss: and i can't restore. Jun 24 23:14:40 Weiss: then i try to switch qvga, i am getting almost white screen Jun 24 23:14:51 yeah.. that sounds like what I get when it breaks Jun 24 23:15:15 Weiss: but it seem not die - i can steel see picture changing Jun 24 23:15:29 Weiss: and can restore to qvga. Jun 24 23:15:39 s/qvga/vga/ Jun 24 23:15:40 gena2x meant: Weiss: and can restore to vga. Jun 24 23:16:54 Weiss: ok, if it is known, i'll just wait for fix. Jun 24 23:18:17 * Weiss wishes he knew how to fix it :( Jun 24 23:18:55 Weiss: btw, C fifo depth works well here. Jun 24 23:50:01 damn hell, is it possible to download openmoko maillist and grep it?! Jun 24 23:50:07 :) Jun 24 23:52:15 gena2x: any new updates to your kernel config? last one i tried (month ago) had problems with mmc access Jun 24 23:52:30 undrwater: mmc access? Jun 24 23:53:09 i don't have the exact error....but it was sd card /dev/mmc* closing or something Jun 24 23:54:04 undrwater: you should try to reduce clock by adding kernel parameter. glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=15000000 Jun 24 23:54:10 or something like this. Jun 24 23:54:38 undrwater: nothing new, as now i am on .34 without suspend, sound and xrandr. Jun 24 23:54:49 undrwater: and with other bugs. Jun 24 23:55:13 undrwater: but quite happy as i learned much recently. Jun 24 23:55:53 undrwater: also, mmc speed is almost 3mb/s here -> this is very good. Jun 24 23:56:38 undrwater: and oprofile works in .34, so i can do intelligent guesses about performance. Jun 24 23:57:20 undrwater: also, i'm on kernel optimized for speed, which works and that is good. Jun 24 23:59:31 <|if3> hmm Jun 24 23:59:47 <|if3> how does one set current shr theme to the om2008 gtk theme? Jun 25 00:00:01 <|if3> i tried what was suggested on the shr tweaks page, but it doesn't work Jun 25 00:02:13 Weiss: I saw some mail where Andy Green did 'invention' of some LCM(?) registers, which had 5 values, something with pixel order. he changed from default(2) and got some flickering on framebuffer fixed. but default were to 'reduce rf of lcm'. i wonder can it influence touchscreen jitter. i can't find that mail again (searching for a hour) :((( Jun 25 00:07:40 Weiss: i know this sounds very unclean :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 25 02:59:57 2010