**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 14 02:59:56 2010 Jul 14 03:46:02 so i keep seeing this number online: 7.3MB/s of video bandwidth. does anyone know how this number is calculated? Jul 14 11:53:19 hi, need help with forcing NOR u-boot menu to switch to UDF mode (from runtime mode) Jul 14 11:53:40 dfu-util shows only [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=2, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name="USB Device Firmware Upgrade" Jul 14 11:54:20 can't find anything about it on wiki Jul 14 11:54:25 gravis: known bug Jul 14 11:54:45 gravis: download binary dfu-util from openmoko pages. Jul 14 11:55:20 I guess it's doable by screen'ing to /dev/ttyusbXXX (or /dev/ttyAXXX) but can't find any dfumode on command ;/ Jul 14 11:56:04 I've tested 1.0+svnexport (seems latest) and that one compiled for ubuntu.. where to find working one ? Jul 14 11:56:41 gena2x: is there a bug report about it? Jul 14 11:56:42 this one ? http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.9/dfu-util Jul 14 11:57:02 lindi-: i don't really know. Jul 14 11:57:28 just once we spend really much time to track this down. Jul 14 11:57:45 and it all got forgotten? Jul 14 11:58:12 and also i answered as a minimum to 5 users and seem older binary helped them. Jul 14 11:58:46 that binary I've linked -same issue Jul 14 11:58:57 of course, i can find chat log. Jul 14 11:59:07 only devnum=2, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name="USB Device Firmware Upgrade" Jul 14 11:59:32 could it be related to type of usb cable used ? Jul 14 11:59:34 bug were something like this 'only one partition is shown by dfu-util'. Jul 14 11:59:55 most users had ubuntu. Jul 14 12:00:36 gena2x: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=dfu%0D%0Apartition Jul 14 12:00:38 gena2x: does it work for u ? Jul 14 12:00:55 gravis: my dfu-util is ok. Jul 14 12:01:17 i just helped others to find cause of issue. Jul 14 12:01:25 didn't tried to reproduce it here. Jul 14 12:01:28 could u check for me one thing- does u-boot menu dispolays "switching to DFUmode" once usb cable is connected ? Jul 14 12:01:36 or only after starting the flashing procewss ? Jul 14 12:03:05 lindi-: no such bug report. i think i asked one of users to report, but seem he didn't. Jul 14 12:04:12 lindi-: really, i'll track this down and do patch next time. Jul 14 12:04:20 I have a log level 8 of WSD on startup & first resume with shr-u and dos1 qi 465-116-1.55-1.8. I've managed to reproduce it 2 times. Jul 14 12:04:39 gena2x: you should give link to binary only after they have reported the bug :) Jul 14 12:04:54 lindi-: :) Jul 14 12:05:30 lindi-: i don't really gave em link. they found it themselves. Jul 14 12:06:24 lindi-: one man i recall first tried to compile dfu-util, and resulting binary failed and then he downloaded precompiled and it were working. Jul 14 12:06:53 jluis: what's wrong with having more logs? Jul 14 12:07:07 gravis: ok. i can see that for you... Jul 14 12:08:26 gravis: it displays nothing on connection of usb cable. Jul 14 12:08:53 gena2x: thx Jul 14 12:09:19 this means my NOR u-boot needs some kind of repairing ;/ Jul 14 12:09:32 gravis: i think not. Jul 14 12:09:59 gravis: find bug elsewhere. nor u-boot is always ok i think. Jul 14 12:10:29 ok, i have another question then Jul 14 12:10:56 does NAND bootloader or rootfs content can affect NOR u-boot ? Jul 14 12:11:12 no. Jul 14 12:11:21 nor is write-protected. Jul 14 12:11:25 I've flashed rootfs with latest shr-u Jul 14 12:11:43 today, then after rebooting dfu-utils shows only one device Jul 14 12:12:25 and it's not rootfs but name="USB Device Firmware Upgrade" Jul 14 12:12:56 gravis: ok, let's try to track down your problem. Jul 14 12:13:21 my NAND= Qi - some old stable release Jul 14 12:13:47 i am using u-boot in nand too. Jul 14 12:14:36 it's ok Jul 14 12:14:41 i have some line. Jul 14 12:14:45 Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=34, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name="USB Device Firmware Upgrade" Jul 14 12:15:09 so find problem elsewhere. Jul 14 12:15:31 this is my env in NOR u-boot menu http://pastebin.pl/26198 Jul 14 12:16:04 but can't say if it's ok Jul 14 12:16:33 i'm using dfu-util on 3 different machines (one is embedded device) and same issue Jul 14 12:16:55 first, what is problem? Jul 14 12:17:06 it can't flash? Jul 14 12:17:16 I want to flash kernel and bootloader Jul 14 12:17:20 ok. Jul 14 12:17:33 lets focus on flashing bootloader. Jul 14 12:17:43 it fails? Jul 14 12:18:20 how exactly? Jul 14 12:18:26 gena2x: Its the fist time I could reproduce a wsd. http://pastebin.com/BjzGQMdp Jul 14 12:18:28 what is command line exactly? Jul 14 12:18:41 when i try to run dfu-util.. eg #dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D uboot.bin Jul 14 12:18:56 gravis: what is error message? Jul 14 12:19:20 No DFU capable USB device found Jul 14 12:19:43 jluis: it's ok. dos1 did 1.8V qi's. 1.8 do not work for me for example. i have to use 1.9V. Jul 14 12:19:55 sorry Jul 14 12:19:57 not this one Jul 14 12:20:05 Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Jul 14 12:20:07 Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Jul 14 12:20:08 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Jul 14 12:20:10 Resetting USB... Jul 14 12:20:11 Opening USB Device... Jul 14 12:20:13 No such Alternate Setting: "u-boot" Jul 14 12:20:28 jluis: overclocked versions not guaranteed to work, except 500/clk3. Jul 14 12:20:34 gravis: ok. Jul 14 12:20:48 gravis: this seems much better error. Jul 14 12:21:14 gravis: so, really same error - 'no such alternative'. Jul 14 12:21:43 yes, when i try to list dfu partitions by dfu-util -l Jul 14 12:21:59 it shows me only : Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=8, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name="rootfs" Jul 14 12:22:49 gravis: same error. other people fixed it with different binary. Jul 14 12:23:08 but it should show me "kernel" + "u-boot" + i guess some "factory" etc.. should be similar to on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#--list Jul 14 12:23:10 can you tell me uname -a output of your machine? Jul 14 12:23:45 Linux gravis 2.6.32-23-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 08:03:28 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux Jul 14 12:23:50 gravis: here it shows: 'Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=37, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name="USB Device Firmware Upgrade"' Jul 14 12:24:02 and everything is working. Jul 14 12:24:44 i really need that "kernel" or "u-boot" partition visible for dfu-util ;/ can't flash those Jul 14 12:25:13 gravis: ok. lets fix your issue. can you contribute some time to this? Jul 14 12:25:34 I can describe that bug somewhere on trac or so Jul 14 12:25:38 gena2x: thanks I will limit my tests to 500/clk3. Jul 14 12:25:53 jluis: try 533/clk2 first Jul 14 12:26:04 jluis: then 500/clk2 Jul 14 12:26:06 ok Jul 14 12:26:11 jluis: then 533/clk3 Jul 14 12:26:41 jluis: i'm unsure about qi's but i provided such u-boots. Jul 14 12:27:05 gravis: first, i'll try to reproduce it here right now. Jul 14 12:27:56 my rootfs is currently : http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable.29/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 Jul 14 12:28:04 gravis: wait, wait. Jul 14 12:28:19 but same issue was on http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 Jul 14 12:28:30 gena2x: I been unable to boot shr-u with any overclocked u-boot. Jul 14 12:28:33 gravis: this not related to rootfs. Jul 14 12:28:52 jluis: did you tried with non-overclocked first? Jul 14 12:30:02 gravis: ok, first on boot dfu-util shows no partitions. it shows partitions only after flashing begins. Jul 14 12:30:05 ok, my nand qi boot loader also has nothing with it ? Jul 14 12:30:21 gena2x: Jul 14 12:30:21 gravis: Wait! Jul 14 12:30:37 gena2x: exactly Jul 14 12:30:51 just after boot - shows no partitions Jul 14 12:31:07 just some Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=2, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name="USB Device Firmware Upgrade" Jul 14 12:31:32 but this is not proper, intf should be 0 Jul 14 12:31:36 gravis: wait, wait, i'll download dfu-util from ubuntu and try to execute it here. Jul 14 12:33:09 gravis: what is version of your dfu-util package? Jul 14 12:34:33 gena2x: yes u-boot.udfu_400_100_1.7 worked ok but I had problems with the others Jul 14 12:35:02 I've tried 1.0+svnexport Jul 14 12:35:25 i'll switchmachines.. one second Jul 14 12:35:29 and my it be my lousy timing but some times I got a empty enviroment on nand u-boot Jul 14 12:35:32 thats betterr Jul 14 12:35:35 jluis: did you tried 500/clk2? 500/clk3? Jul 14 12:35:56 gravis: try default from ubuntu. Jul 14 12:40:10 gravis: seem ubuntu's version working here. Jul 14 12:42:01 connection issues sorry Jul 14 12:42:12 gravis: np. Jul 14 12:42:26 gravis: ok, first file bug report please. Jul 14 12:43:47 gravis: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ Jul 14 12:44:01 gravis: register and create new ticket please. Jul 14 12:45:07 gena2x: I tried u-boot.udfu_500_83_1.7 u-boot.udfu_500_83_1.7_1.9_CLK2 u-boot.udfu_500_83_1.7_1.85_CLK2 u-boot.udfu_500_83_1.7_1.8_CLK2 Jul 14 12:46:35 jluis: and all not working? Jul 14 12:48:47 gena2x: on shr-u yes, but they manage to boot my NAND android and the SD qtmoko used for the mplayer tests Jul 14 12:49:12 jluis: hm. very interesting. Jul 14 12:50:00 jluis: may be really some kind of kernel issue. Jul 14 12:53:09 gena2x: usaly the boot process stops on SHR-u after mounting extra filesystems ( the last message i see is to notify that sysfs is allready mounted on /sys) Jul 14 12:55:45 jluis: oh, really have no idea :( right now i'm trying to fix dfu-util. Jul 14 12:56:13 jluis: and also have no shr here, so can't test. Jul 14 12:56:40 jluis: but dos1's qis are working for dos1 in shr. Jul 14 12:57:09 gravis: ok, did you wrote bug report? Jul 14 12:59:17 gena2x: I know but he only has posted 450-112 & 466 Jul 14 13:00:06 s/466/465-116 variants Jul 14 13:00:36 jluis: i think he also had 500/clk3 working. Jul 14 13:01:37 gena2x: I don't know but I've to leave now . Sorry :/ Jul 14 13:02:53 gena2x: omw Jul 14 13:06:06 gravis: created ubuntu-chroot in /tmp... Jul 14 13:08:29 hm... Jul 14 13:09:31 gravis: where did you get your dfu-util? Jul 14 13:09:41 geaaru: can you give me link to package Jul 14 13:09:45 ops Jul 14 13:10:07 ^^^^ i meant gravis , sorry geaaru Jul 14 13:13:33 ok one sec Jul 14 13:14:17 np :) Jul 14 13:14:44 http://dfu-util.gnumonks.org/ Jul 14 13:15:00 http://dfu-util.gnumonks.org/releases/dfu-util-0.1.tar.gz Jul 14 13:15:30 (redirected from https://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/DEPRECATED_REPOSITORY_PLEASE_READ_THIS) Jul 14 13:16:12 binary! Jul 14 13:16:16 binary please! Jul 14 13:17:14 gravis: can you just push your dfu-util to web? Jul 14 13:17:24 used ./configure & make & make install Jul 14 13:17:33 ^^^ ? Jul 14 13:17:43 compiled from source Jul 14 13:18:02 so, can you push compiled binary to web? Jul 14 13:19:10 I'll give u the link to version that givessame issue : http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/releases/Om2008.9/dfu-util Jul 14 13:20:43 gravis: didn't forgot ./ ? Jul 14 13:20:53 gravis: (just checking) Jul 14 13:22:11 nope :) Jul 14 13:36:50 gravis: aha. Jul 14 13:36:54 gravis: got it. Jul 14 13:37:31 gravis: with ubuntu/dfu-util i can get your error. Jul 14 13:37:37 gravis: ok with debian. Jul 14 13:38:56 gravis: but it starts working then i try second time. Jul 14 13:39:33 you mean ? Jul 14 13:40:27 gravis: it start working then i try again. Jul 14 13:41:58 maybe it's a matter of usb uhci module.. Jul 14 13:42:08 gravis: hm, seem i just need some pause Jul 14 13:42:11 used in ubuntu Jul 14 13:42:33 gravis: it works if i wait 10 second and then run dfu-util. Jul 14 13:43:09 gravis: so, can't really reproduce it ;( Jul 14 13:44:25 I'll try at home with different linux machine (gentoo) and differnt usb cable (the original one) Jul 14 13:44:35 maybe it's that usb uhci Jul 14 13:44:42 gravis: yes, please. Jul 14 13:44:50 gravis: but file bug anyway. Jul 14 13:45:55 I'll make some tests and if they fail I'll put it on trac, or if i'll find exact issue Jul 14 13:46:26 gena2x: thx for your time Jul 14 13:46:40 gena2x: file anyway, as i see such problem too frequently. Jul 14 13:46:48 ops Jul 14 13:46:52 gravis: ^^^ Jul 14 13:47:13 ok I will, just don't want to put my thoughts but some facts ;) Jul 14 13:47:40 if the problem will dissappear at differnt machine or cable Jul 14 13:47:50 ill put it to trac also Jul 14 13:48:24 but described as"dont use 4-pin usb cable for flashing" or "ubuntu uhci can't query usb devices properly" Jul 14 13:54:09 gravis: nice, thank you for report in advance. Jul 14 20:36:06 Anyone out there that can shed some light on the openmoko use of the FILEPATH variable? Jul 14 20:37:36 sean_hudson: which distro? Jul 14 20:38:36 actually, I'm using the angstrom distro, but am trying to understand how to customize configuration files. Jul 14 20:41:48 not much help here...i figured that'd be distro specific Jul 14 20:42:52 undrwater: thanks anyway. I asked in the #oe channel and someone there mentioned that openmoko does something special to override the locations of configuration files with the FILESBASEPATH variable.... Jul 14 20:43:58 heh...and i was going to point you there ;) Jul 14 22:00:36 Hi guys! Jul 14 22:01:37 On Agust I will be in London, I would like to get a Neo FreeRunner there, where can I find it? Are there any shops ? thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 15 02:59:56 2010