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Jul 16 05:36:12 <rhkfin> Has anyone experienced in SHR-U: a) importing contacts from sim doesn't import the last digit (for all contacts) b) random pixelization of the 'home screen': in the end it's all gray and clears only when you scroll it
Jul 16 05:36:51 * rhkfin reflashes and hopes to get it better this time..
Jul 16 05:41:18 <rhkfin> hMM.. OK, will not reflash, the reports on the mailing list are not encouraging..
Jul 16 05:41:43 <rhkfin> When do we get sspaez back to create us a new testing...?
Jul 16 06:09:58 <JaMa|GoNe> rhkfin: there is newer testing... nobody tested it..
Jul 16 06:10:21 <rhkfin> Since when?
Jul 16 06:11:07 <rhkfin> 04-May-2010 ?
Jul 16 06:11:31 <rhkfin> http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/
Jul 16 06:12:00 <JaMa|GoNe> http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20100529-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
Jul 16 06:13:16 <JaMa|GoNe> but I've just prepared it in testing branch and built it.. didn't even boot it on device
Jul 16 06:13:16 <rhkfin> Has it been announced on the lists?
Jul 16 06:13:45 <JaMa|GoNe> no, I was hoping spaetz will return and test it and then announce it
Jul 16 06:14:00 * JaMa|GoNe doesn't like the idea of becoming maintainer also for testing :)
Jul 16 06:14:18 <rhkfin> right :)
Jul 16 06:14:45 <JaMa|GoNe> shr-u and shr-e is enough to fill all my partitions and free time :)
Jul 16 06:15:15 <rhkfin> I understand
Jul 16 06:15:55 <rhkfin> So would it be OK if I wrote a mail to the lists telling (not announcing :) about the 'new' -testing?
Jul 16 07:59:13 <Wonka> What the *bleeep*? http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/14/droid-x-actually-self-destructs-if-you-try-to-mod-it/
Jul 16 08:41:37 <SpeedEvil> Indeed wonka. :/
Jul 16 12:57:45 <zear> hello there, i have a question about shr
Jul 16 12:58:33 <zear> is there a way i can recover logs from phonelog? The app crashes when i try to launch it
Jul 16 12:58:49 <zear> and i need to know a number that called me today
Jul 16 18:54:50 <JaMa> rhkfin: sure, feel free to annnounce it for testing, but please test it first yourself :)
Jul 16 18:55:22 <JaMa> rhkfin: would be a shame if it doesn't even boot :)
Jul 16 19:05:38 <undrwater> JaMa: has that rotation bug thing been fixed with new kernel?
Jul 16 19:06:41 <JaMa> no
Jul 16 19:06:51 <JaMa> it's not kernel bug, but bug in xserver
Jul 16 19:07:17 <JaMa> see ML, there is workaround
Jul 16 19:07:37 <undrwater> wasn't that for .29 kernels though?
Jul 16 19:07:58 <undrwater> or does that apply to .3x as well?
Jul 16 19:08:29 <JaMa> it's not kernel dependant
Jul 16 19:08:40 <JaMa> -> dinner
Jul 16 19:11:28 <undrwater> ok...you said that :P  
Jul 16 19:11:36 <undrwater> <-- dummy :)
Jul 16 19:25:39 <JaMa> undrwater: i did? :)
Jul 16 19:25:56 <JaMa> maybe I wasn't really clear ;)
Jul 16 19:29:48 <undrwater> you said:  it's not kernel bug, but bug in xserver
Jul 16 19:29:59 <undrwater> then i asked about kernel again :P
Jul 16 19:30:21 <undrwater> you were clear...i wasn't paying attention
Jul 16 19:35:04 <JaMa> ah :)
Jul 16 19:36:13 <JaMa> I remember that I also said on ML, that we're using xinput-calibrator instead of kernel driver calibration because the later is not available in 2.6.34..
Jul 16 19:41:58 <ftn> Hey there. I'm using latest shr-testing but after some reboots the pin dialog doesn't appear. Shr-settings displays the "Couldn't connect to FSO" message on some fields so I guess something's broken. do you know how to solve it?, pls
Jul 16 19:42:22 <PaulFertser> ftn: some unclean reboots?
Jul 16 19:43:12 <ftn> PaulFertser aI don't think so, as a matter of fact I've flashed it several times and I always get the same problem
Jul 16 19:43:39 <PaulFertser> ftn: check if frameworkd running
Jul 16 19:45:20 <ftn> PaulFertser it insn't, ummm, maybe I broke it while updating the configuration file
Jul 16 19:45:30 <PaulFertser> ftn: quite possibly
Jul 16 19:45:33 <PaulFertser> ftn: try to run it manually
Jul 16 19:45:54 <ftn> can you tell me how can I debug/ launch it manually?, pls
Jul 16 19:48:32 <PaulFertser> ftn: frameworkd
Jul 16 19:56:20 <JaMa> hi PaulFertser :)
Jul 16 19:56:29 <ftn> PaulFertser just got it, /etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/phone/silent.yaml won't work as the default profile as it doesn't configure the *-tone value
Jul 16 19:56:57 <PaulFertser> JaMa: hi :) what's up.
Jul 16 19:57:37 <JaMa> PaulFertser: today 113km with 1760m superelevation.. :)
Jul 16 19:57:42 <PaulFertser> ftn: cool you nailed it down. Probably worth notifying FSO devs so they fix it.
Jul 16 19:58:01 <PaulFertser> JaMa: Wow, that's considerably cool :)
Jul 16 19:58:02 <JaMa> PaulFertser: not so good in 40 st. C, but still good trip
Jul 16 19:58:14 <PaulFertser> JaMa: yeah, damn hot here too.
Jul 16 19:58:40 <JaMa> I was about an hour without watter -> stupid and dangerous
Jul 16 19:59:14 <undrwater> wow
Jul 16 19:59:14 <PaulFertser> JaMa: where did you find a desert? ;)
Jul 16 19:59:48 <JaMa> mmt uploading photos :)
Jul 16 20:00:12 <JaMa> and I also went down the ski slope :)
Jul 16 20:00:18 <PaulFertser> JaMa: do i remember it right you have that cool backpack with an integrated water tank?
Jul 16 20:02:43 <JaMa> PaulFertser: right.. but 3L wasn't enough for today..
Jul 16 20:04:08 * PaulFertser 's impatiently waiting for the photos :)
Jul 16 20:04:48 <JaMa> they are only from phone and not much good
Jul 16 20:11:28 <JaMa> PaulFertser: http://jama.homelinux.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=22681
Jul 16 20:14:53 * PaulFertser enjoys cauliflowers (broccoli-like)
Jul 16 20:27:26 <PaulFertser> Sweetend condensed milk. mmm
Jul 16 20:41:58 <rhkfin> spam in paroli track..
Jul 16 20:42:01 <rhkfin> trac..
Jul 16 20:47:11 <PaulFertser> JaMa: what does "Za vlast..." mean?
Jul 16 20:48:05 <CVirus> PaulFertser: not a big fan of cauliflower :-D
Jul 16 20:48:10 <CVirus> PaulFertser: how do you cook it by the way ?
Jul 16 20:48:16 <PaulFertser> JaMa: beatiful places, i'm a little envy ;)
Jul 16 20:48:26 <SpeedEvil> CVirus: Saltwater, then cheese sauce on top
Jul 16 20:49:07 <CVirus> SpeedEvil: we fry it here :-D
Jul 16 20:49:25 <SpeedEvil> Or in stir-fry
Jul 16 20:49:40 <CVirus> PaulFertser == SpeedEvil ?
Jul 16 20:49:49 <SpeedEvil> No.
Jul 16 20:50:04 <SpeedEvil> I'm tired, and not reading stuff closely
Jul 16 20:50:11 <CVirus> lol
Jul 16 20:50:57 <CVirus> I love pickled cauliflowers
Jul 16 20:52:29 <PaulFertser> CVirus: in fact, my mother does. I think she boils it in a small amount of water (do not know how that process is properly called) and then adds some dill (or similar).
Jul 16 20:53:29 <CVirus> aha
Jul 16 20:53:42 <JaMa> PaulFertser: the whole sign means "For our country, we would even die"
Jul 16 20:54:18 <CVirus> Is there by any chance someone living in amsterdam and wants to sell his freerunner ?
Jul 16 20:54:43 <PaulFertser> JaMa: "for country even life will give"?
Jul 16 20:55:37 <PaulFertser> JaMa: in russian there's "givot" -- stomach, "gizn'" -- life. In old russian "givot" means life too.
Jul 16 20:56:00 <JaMa> yup it's similar
Jul 16 20:56:49 <PaulFertser> JaMa: but "vlast" means "authority" (e.g. government/president) here.
Jul 16 20:57:41 <JaMa> PaulFertser: this was near Czech/Poland border .. so there is plenty of similar fotresses.. few with possible visit
Jul 16 20:58:26 <JaMa> PaulFertser: here it's like "country" from nationalist dictionary
Jul 16 20:59:22 <PaulFertser> CVirus: as i'm lacto-ovo- i also consider its ok when some chicken eggs added in the mix.
Jul 16 21:00:55 <PaulFertser> JaMa: do you know there was recently a parade in moscow where they decided to show modern weaponry again (including the intercontinetal missiles)? Just like during the soviet times :(
Jul 16 21:03:09 <PaulFertser> CVirus: (pickled) interesting idea, never thought of that. Here we traditionally eat pickled cabbage or tomatoes.
Jul 16 21:03:52 <CVirus> PaulFertser: we add chicken eggs here as well :-)
Jul 16 21:04:07 <PaulFertser> Yeah, and pickled mushrooms of course.
Jul 16 21:05:53 <CVirus> PaulFertser: where do you live by the way ?
Jul 16 21:06:25 <PaulFertser> CVirus: Moscow, Russia
Jul 16 21:10:50 <PaulFertser> JaMa: i prefer to believe that if all children in the world see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_the_Wind_(film) , there would be no more wars.
Jul 16 21:11:52 <JaMa> PaulFertser: how did people react for such parade?
Jul 16 21:12:11 <JaMa> PaulFertser: I guess it wasn't mandatory to attend (yet :/)
Jul 16 21:13:08 * JaMa agree that all wars are stupid and people should make love or opensource instead
Jul 16 21:13:19 <PaulFertser> JaMa: heh, i've read some "great patriotic war" veterans wanted to attend but there was no possibility for "an ordinary man" to come.
Jul 16 21:15:13 * PaulFertser considers it's time to reread Kundera
Jul 16 21:17:52 <PaulFertser> JaMa: not sure how most people reacted to such a parade, probably they liked we have "powerful weapons". Too much pseudo-"patriotism" here :((( OTOH it was the first parade (we have one every year to "celebrate" the victory) where some NATA soldiers participated.
Jul 16 21:19:45 <JaMa> PaulFertser: when I was small < 7y old, we heard soviet tanks every now and then... even back then I didn't found them "nice"
Jul 16 21:21:19 <JaMa> maybe it was because they were loudly driving near our home early morning or late night..
Jul 16 21:22:13 <PaulFertser> JaMa: i think there were 7 people who immediatly protested against the invasion ("liberation" in the official terminology) by going with banners to the red square...
Jul 16 21:24:47 <PaulFertser> JaMa: all of them were convicted
Jul 16 21:24:54 <rhkfin> plz someone try the latest testing images..  http://build.shr-project.org/tests/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/
Jul 16 21:25:34 <PaulFertser> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Red_Square_demonstration
Jul 16 21:28:13 <JaMa> interesting, I didn't know many details about it, thanks for link
Jul 16 21:29:15 * JaMa was taught in official terminology.. so nobody mentioned Red_Square_demonstration..
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