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Jul 21 03:14:24 <Weiss> whoops, SSH failure on my part a few hours ago..
Jul 21 13:25:10 * pabs3 finds todays shr-u update to be incredibly fast
Jul 21 13:26:19 <Gabrys> what did you do guys? :D
Jul 21 13:26:33 <badcloud-> pabs3: jffs2 or tarball?
Jul 21 13:27:25 <pabs3> badcloud-: upgraded from a tarball on uSD with opkg upgrade
Jul 21 13:28:13 <JaMa> there is newer opkg, maybe it does only noop instead of upgrade :)
Jul 21 13:28:24 <pabs3> heh
Jul 21 13:29:02 <badcloud-> pabs3: nice. what's feels faster, the gui?
Jul 21 13:29:17 <pabs3> yep
Jul 21 13:29:23 <badcloud-> pabs3: cool
Jul 21 13:29:40 <pabs3> tons faster than SHR-t and a bit faster than Debian with SHR stuff
Jul 21 13:29:55 <pabs3> there is a weird flash when I touch the screen after it blanks out
Jul 21 13:33:39 <JaMa> ah if you upgraded from old shr-u with 2.6.29 then it's expected to be much faster
Jul 21 13:34:26 <pabs3> I had 2.6.32 before as well, feels faster than that though, especially bootup
Jul 21 13:34:49 <JaMa> pabs3: that's because of udev removal
Jul 21 13:52:45 <Gabrys> JaMa: how do you do stuff without udev?
Jul 21 13:53:12 <JaMa> Gabrys: devtmpfs
Jul 21 16:00:19 <henk> hi
Jul 21 16:03:09 <walkie> hello, is it well known in shr what 2.6.32 kernel fails to start with root=mmcblk0p2 ?
Jul 21 16:03:20 <henk> where do i find the latest (stable) qi version? is qi still actively developed and still the recommended bootloader?
Jul 21 16:03:58 <PaulFertser> walkie: are you using rootwait option as well?
Jul 21 16:04:14 <PaulFertser> henk: at shr downloads
Jul 21 16:04:33 <PaulFertser> henk: i'm personally ready to fix bugs or discuss qi features.
Jul 21 16:05:06 <walkie> PaulFertser, dunno, i just took from a shelf my neo, and decided to try to upgrade to latest shr
Jul 21 16:05:22 <henk> PaulFertser: ah, good to see you're still here :)
Jul 21 16:05:24 <PaulFertser> walkie: then try to use that rootwait option
Jul 21 16:05:28 <PaulFertser> henk: :D
Jul 21 16:20:25 <walkie> please give me a quick hint about which u-boot commands should I enter... (I should add rootwait in there am I?)
Jul 21 16:28:03 <walkie> well, I think I found it already, print env and setenv menu_6 ... fix me?
Jul 21 17:09:16 <walkie> well, I have a problem: i type - setenv menu_9 Boot SHR: bootargs ${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait ${mtdparts} ro; mmcinit; fatload mmc 1 0x32000000 ${sd_image_name}; bootm 0x32000000
Jul 21 17:09:36 <walkie> it starts booting and i cannot type saveenv
Jul 21 17:11:24 <ThibG> type setenv menu_9 'Boot SHR: bootargs ${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait ${mtdparts} ro; mmcinit; fatload mmc 1 0x32000000 ${sd_image_name}; bootm 0x32000000'
Jul 21 17:19:45 <PBeck> hi
Jul 21 17:25:45 <Martix> you should escape $ and ;
Jul 21 17:30:13 <walkie> thanks Martix, now i have on printenv: menu_9=Boot SHR: setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait ${mtdparts} ro; mmcinit; fatload mmc 1 0x32000000 ${sd_image_name}; bootm 0x32000000
Jul 21 17:30:42 <walkie> and mmcblk0p2 is not initialised so shr boot fails
Jul 21 17:32:27 <walkie> so rootwait did not help me
Jul 21 17:35:40 <walkie> what else can i try?
Jul 21 17:40:59 <Martix> walkie: try slow uSD clock
Jul 21 17:41:54 <Martix> as kernel param: glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=2500000
Jul 21 17:43:25 <henk> what's the difference between qi and qi-ubi?
Jul 21 17:44:41 <Gabrys> I guess qi-ubi has the support for booting ubifs rootfs-es
Jul 21 17:45:16 <henk> oh ok, thanks
Jul 21 17:45:33 <Martix> walkie: value could be more than 2500000, if it will boot, try higher values
Jul 21 17:58:53 <walkie> where factory env can be found?
Jul 21 18:00:17 <walkie> it seems some env parts are lost
Jul 21 18:00:46 <PaulFertser> walkie: nowhere basically
Jul 21 18:00:53 <PaulFertser> walkie: it's used only for usb mac anyway
Jul 21 18:13:31 <walkie> well, is it right "kernel param : setenv menu_9 Boot SHR: setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base} rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=2500000 \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\; fatload mmc 1 0x32000000 \${sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x32000000
Jul 21 18:23:36 <walkie> thanks Martix, CLK helped
Jul 21 18:25:02 <walkie> about "lost" env - it was just not displayed on the screen, some X bug on host, while some work on cu in gnome terminal
Jul 21 18:25:20 <Martix> walkie: you can try higher number default is 16000000
Jul 21 18:30:33 <walkie> thanks Martix, 2500000 took too much to start up, will test it tomorrow
Jul 21 18:30:44 <walkie> thanks anyone for help
Jul 21 19:19:47 * |if3 changes away reason from "after 10 mins idle" to "I'm afk!"
Jul 21 22:35:48 <djp_> how do i get qtmoko to display uk time? i've installed ntpdate and run ntpdate uk.pool.ntp.org, but i'm still an hour behind uk time...
Jul 21 22:36:02 <PaulFertser> djp_: do you have proper timezone set?
Jul 21 22:36:09 <PaulFertser> djp_: just do it the debian way.
Jul 21 22:36:18 <PaulFertser> djp_: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (iirc)
Jul 21 22:37:45 <djp_> PaulFertser: thanks. will try
Jul 21 22:41:37 <djp_> PaulFertser: no change unfortunately...
Jul 21 22:41:48 <PaulFertser> djp_: what does ``date'' print?
Jul 21 22:43:07 <djp_> PaulFertser: wed jul 21 22:42:39 utc 2010
Jul 21 22:43:16 <PaulFertser> djp_: UTC is utc.
Jul 21 22:43:19 <PaulFertser> djp_: tried tzconfig?
Jul 21 22:43:43 <PaulFertser> I mean that reconfigure thing?
Jul 21 22:44:05 <djp_> PaulFertser: yeah, tried that... nothing changes no matter what i change it to
Jul 21 22:45:07 <djp_> PaulFertser: my bad... hold on...
Jul 21 22:45:53 <PaulFertser> djp_: /etc/localtime should be the same as the desired timezone at /usr/share/zoneinfo 
Jul 21 22:46:22 <PaulFertser> djp_: so you can use either ``cp'' or dpkg-reconfigure tzdata for that effect.
Jul 21 22:47:09 <djp_> PaulFertser: changed averything to with tzdata but time still won't change ...
Jul 21 22:47:27 <PaulFertser> djp_: is /etc/localtime indeed the right one now?
Jul 21 22:47:30 <djp_> PaulFertser: ran ntpdate after making changes via dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
Jul 21 22:47:46 <djp_> will check
Jul 21 22:47:59 <PaulFertser> djp_: utc is one hour behind because it's DST in effect right now, so you've proper time already.
Jul 21 22:49:03 <djp_> PaulFertser: time here in uk is currently 23:48... phone shows 22:48
Jul 21 22:49:43 <PaulFertser> djp_: that's exactly correct obviously.
Jul 21 22:50:34 <djp_> PaulFertser: well, how can i change it to show the time here in the uk? that's what i'm trying to achieve?
Jul 21 22:50:54 <PaulFertser> djp_: using /etc/localtime for your timezone should be enough.
Jul 21 22:51:25 <PaulFertser> djp_: cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London /etc/localtime 
Jul 21 22:51:27 <PaulFertser> should do the trick
Jul 21 22:52:26 <PaulFertser> djp_: unless there's something constantly overwriting /etc/localtime (fso used to do that when GSM zonesource was enabled).
Jul 21 22:53:40 <djp_> PaulFertser: tried copying but no change so something must be overwriting /etc/localtime like you say
Jul 21 22:56:03 <djp_> PaulFertser: thanks for the help... i need my bed :)
Jul 21 22:56:52 <PaulFertser> djp_: ping me tomorrow, we'll sort it out for sure ;)
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