**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 02:59:57 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 05:13:48 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 05:16:15 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 25 10:36:14 2010 Jul 25 11:14:09 hi how can i configure that my wlan allways conect and without the manager width i had this some days ago but now it doesnt work anymore Jul 25 11:14:27 wicd Jul 25 11:15:19 thats in my interfaces#wlan networking Jul 25 11:15:19 auto eth0 Jul 25 11:15:19 iface eth0 inet static Jul 25 11:15:19 wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf Jul 25 11:15:19 address 192.168.100.202 Jul 25 11:15:19 netmask 255.255.255.0 Jul 25 11:15:20 network 192.168.100.0 Jul 25 11:15:20 gateway 192.168.100.2 Jul 25 11:15:59 and the wpa_supplicant.conf is also correct Jul 25 11:16:31 there are my key and essid inside Jul 25 11:17:00 do i have to deinstall wicd Jul 25 14:06:45 hello Jul 25 14:08:47 hello Jul 25 14:11:55 hi Jul 25 14:12:31 hi I have GTA01 working, require some help Jul 25 14:13:44 hi matokal Jul 25 14:13:48 matokla Jul 25 14:17:13 What's the problem? Jul 25 14:19:21 I have my sim connected, phone works, there is audio on incoming and outgoing calls, but don't have ringtone Jul 25 14:19:30 what do I do? (GTA01) Jul 25 14:21:11 Tried uname -r and ls /lib/modules but this is what I found: Jul 25 14:21:11 name@computer:~$ sudo cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 Jul 25 14:21:11 Connected. Jul 25 14:21:12 GTA01Bv4 # uname -r Jul 25 14:21:12 Unknown command 'uname' - try 'help' Jul 25 14:21:12 GTA01Bv4 # sudo uname -r Jul 25 14:21:12 Unknown command 'sudo' - try 'help' Jul 25 14:21:13 GTA01Bv4 # ls /lib/modules Jul 25 14:21:13 Scanning JFFS2 FS: get_fl_mem_nand: can't alloc 872080792 bytes Jul 25 14:21:14 off = 0x1e2f4 magic 0x1985 type 0x0 node.totlen = 872080792 Jul 25 14:21:14 done. Jul 25 14:21:15 find_inode failed for name=lib Jul 25 14:21:15 ls: Failed to scan jffs2 file structure Jul 25 14:21:16 What do I do? Jul 25 14:22:07 umm Jul 25 14:22:31 That looks like massive filesystem corruption. Jul 25 14:23:21 I had similar results some time ago when I flashed a smaller jffs filesystem on top of a big one, without wiping Jul 25 14:24:12 thanks SpeedEvil, but if the file system is corrupt, how is the phone booting and connecting to the mobile network Jul 25 14:24:16 makes and receives calls Jul 25 14:24:31 the gui is fine, except that I have difficulty scrolling Jul 25 14:25:52 jffs seems to do that Jul 25 14:26:29 umm Jul 25 14:26:35 what should I do now? Jul 25 14:26:53 is that actually booted linux? Jul 25 14:27:10 I don't have a basic idea of unix / linux commands, but somehow followed the instructions line by line from online instructions, set it up Jul 25 14:27:13 I vaguely recall that teh bootloader has a limited shell which responds like that Jul 25 14:27:35 I'd say wayit for someone wih more clue Jul 25 14:28:36 have ubuntu on my laptop, if I have to find the version of kernel, version of openmoko to post it here, what commands do I give on mode GTA01bv4# Jul 25 14:29:49 umm Jul 25 14:30:02 you should be connecting to it over ssh in some ways Jul 25 14:30:11 that's not linux booting Jul 25 14:30:18 sorry - afk - good luck Jul 25 14:36:48 Hello Jul 25 14:36:59 hello Jul 25 14:37:13 Thinking about buying a Neo Freerunner which has been in use for the past 1 - 1,5 years for about 100 € +/- 20 Jul 25 14:37:36 I wonder if that 100 € price is reasonable or should I go up to 150 as the seller is asking for? Jul 25 14:41:48 were any hardware fixes applied to the device? Jul 25 14:42:06 if not, I'd rather try to get him down to 80 Jul 25 14:42:12 if so, 100 sound ok Jul 25 14:44:30 told him about buzzfix and A7 already Jul 25 14:45:13 aiui the device isn't mainly for phone usage Jul 25 14:45:31 s/the/ DrGrov Jul 25 14:47:44 * DocScrutinizer ponders to sell a few of the dozens in his shelf as well Jul 25 14:49:53 what's the "new golden SHR" after 0808 legendary version? Jul 25 14:51:44 Yes, I told him but it did not have buzzfix and A7 so I skipped the deal Jul 25 14:52:22 DocScrutinizer: You have some Freerunners for sale? Jul 25 14:52:32 pondering Jul 25 14:52:52 the pile is a tad too high ;-D Jul 25 14:53:22 LOL Jul 25 14:53:44 ~joerg Jul 25 14:53:45 joerg is probably a HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko, usually known as DocScrutinizer Jul 25 14:54:35 ~botsnack Jul 25 14:54:35 DocScrutinizer: thanks Jul 25 14:55:01 DocScrutinizer: perhaps if you would be interested in selling one relatively cheap if you got several? :) Jul 25 14:56:33 need inspection, every single one of them. Either hold private data, or screwed botloaders, or case sticker ser# doesn't match the mainboard inside. See I juggled with them n all ways yu could think of Jul 25 14:57:58 might find one or two that are unmodified and complete and working. Probably no A7 / buzzfixed one though, that I'd want to sell. You could get buzzfix anyway Jul 25 14:58:51 lemme think about it while I get a coffee in a beergarden Jul 25 14:58:56 * DocScrutinizer waves Jul 25 15:00:36 DocScrutinizer: Ok, get back to me when you got time :) Jul 25 15:01:59 DrGrov: (skipped the deal) if it's an A6 and you get it for 80, then you may have buzzfix according to the docs I linked to in other chan, and get a "usable" phone. Or you just test if performance/audio quality is sufficient for the people you call, without buzzfix Jul 25 15:02:38 * DocScrutinizer wonders why he's pushing down the resales prices :-S Jul 25 15:02:42 DocScrutinizer: I would not get it for 80, I would need to pay the 150 Jul 25 15:03:49 need to think about what I'm doing here. Maybe 150 is a reasonable price, depending on whether market is paying that much for used FR Jul 25 15:04:58 The problem is that he would not sell it for less than 150... Which I consider to be too much. Jul 25 15:05:19 Of course, the 150 is not a too big problem if the market is paying that much. Jul 25 15:06:23 well, generally for a electronic device in use for 18 months, a price <50% of new is normal, I'd think Jul 25 15:06:58 but then otoh that largely varies depending on particular class / brand of device Jul 25 15:07:21 honestly I have no idea, I never bought or sold a FR Jul 25 15:07:39 Okay. No worries about that you do not have any idea :) Jul 25 15:09:16 just don't want to do a bad favour to all our users, by spoiling the resale prices out of a adhoc estimation based on ... well nothing Jul 25 15:09:38 I understand, that is no worries. Jul 25 15:11:47 check past sales on ebay, maybe. should give you an idea about resale price. Watch for either A7 board revision or alternatively buzzfix rework applied. this for sure is more expensive class of devices than those without Jul 25 15:13:15 Okay, I will check over on ebay. I really would like to have one for the car. Jul 25 15:17:27 DocScrutinizer: thanks for the help :) Jul 25 15:34:45 I paid roughly $150 for my FR Jul 25 15:35:02 it was used, had two batteries, all headsets and stuff Jul 25 15:35:10 and 512 M uSD Jul 25 15:41:06 hi Jul 25 15:41:40 is this the channel for openmoko help? Jul 25 15:41:53 Or is there a separate channel? Jul 25 15:42:14 openick: openmoko hardware or software? Jul 25 15:42:40 software issue, related to GTA01 some basic help Jul 25 15:42:48 openick: SHR? Jul 25 15:43:20 lindi, sorry I am unfamiliar with abbreviations here, what is SHR? Jul 25 15:43:29 openick: SHR is a linux distribution Jul 25 15:43:46 openick: what distribution are you using on your GTA01? Jul 25 15:44:25 NO, I have ubuntu on my computer, installed the software follwing how to flash instructions given for GTA01 in the openmoko wiki Jul 25 15:44:27 the phone works Jul 25 15:44:50 But how do i find the kernel version and the other details of the software that I have installed? Jul 25 15:44:57 openick: the wiki changes all the time, when exactly did you follow the instructions? ;) Jul 25 15:45:05 openick: and which wiki page? Jul 25 15:45:05 ~convert 150 USD to EUR Jul 25 15:45:07 150 USD is approximately 106.172 EUR Jul 25 15:45:30 openick: "uname -r" command prints kernel version Jul 25 15:46:01 but there is an error message when I tried uname -r Jul 25 15:46:19 openick: what error message is it? Jul 25 15:47:58 mom lindi Jul 25 15:48:35 Tried uname -r and ls /lib/modules but this is what I found: name@computer:~$ sudo cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 Connected. GTA01Bv4 # uname -r Unknown command 'uname' - try 'help' GTA01Bv4 # sudo uname -r Unknown command 'sudo' - try 'help' GTA01Bv4 # ls /lib/modules Scanning JFFS2 FS: get_fl_mem_nand: can't alloc 872080792 bytes off = 0x1e2f4 magic 0x1985 type 0x0 node.totlen = 872080792 done. find_inode failed for name=lib ls: Failed to scan jffs2 file str Jul 25 15:49:29 openick: "uname -r" is a gnu/linux command Jul 25 15:49:34 openick: you are talking to the boot loader Jul 25 15:49:43 openick: you need to boot before you can run "uname -r" Jul 25 15:50:02 openick: are you familiar with boot loaders like lilo or grub? Jul 25 15:50:47 no... Jul 25 15:50:53 I am not familiar with unix at all Jul 25 15:51:16 have some very basic working knowledge to follow instructions, line by line, for use in termainal Jul 25 15:51:28 followed instructions at page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_1973 Jul 25 15:51:38 openick: ok. I am not sure if GTA01 is very useful then Jul 25 15:51:58 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/unsorted/neo-ssh Jul 25 15:52:04 and now have neo GTA01 working, the GUI is fine, except for a scrolling issue, sim card connects me to the network, can make and receive calls Jul 25 15:52:19 openick: which file did you exactly flash? Jul 25 15:52:33 the only problem is that I don't know how to find the file I flashed Jul 25 15:53:00 though scratch that, assumes PC is linux :-D Jul 25 15:53:05 I think I did ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./Openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01-20070501054014.rootfs.jffs2 Jul 25 15:53:13 pc is ubuntu Jul 25 15:53:18 ubuntu 10 something Jul 25 15:53:42 20070501 yay Jul 25 15:54:20 have the phone connected Jul 25 15:55:08 tbh I have no idea what version / vlavour of OS that is at all Jul 25 15:55:16 now on this modeL Jul 25 15:55:18 ~$ cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 Connected. In: usbtty Out: usbtty Err: usbtty GTA01Bv4 # Enabling automatic fast charge GTA01Bv4 # Jul 25 15:55:33 openick: ok Jul 25 15:55:45 uname -r says unknown command Jul 25 15:55:47 openick: 2007 is so old that you probably can't even build it from source code anymore asily Jul 25 15:55:58 GTA01Bv4 # uname -r Unknown command 'uname' - try 'help' GTA01Bv4 # Jul 25 15:56:04 openick: so even a skilled person is not going to be able to support you easily Jul 25 15:56:25 lindi, I have flashed it, the phone works alright Jul 25 15:56:32 try 'help' Jul 25 15:56:34 openick: but? Jul 25 15:56:40 phone vibrates on incoming calls, the audio on calls is good, both incoming and outgoing Jul 25 15:56:45 but I don't hear it ringing Jul 25 15:57:01 openick: I don't think we can help much :( Jul 25 15:57:02 * DocScrutinizer waves Jul 25 15:57:03 the gui is fine, but have a minor scrolling problem Jul 25 15:57:21 where do I find help lindi? Jul 25 15:57:40 ( openick: I don't think we can help much :( ) except suggesting to get recent OS/distro Jul 25 15:58:14 how do I switch to a recent OS? Jul 25 15:58:18 openick: you're like asking about details for Win3.11 Jul 25 15:58:25 How do I delete the installation ? Jul 25 15:58:33 DocScrutinizer: well I would not recommend GTA for a person without *nix experience Jul 25 15:58:43 NO, not win 3.11 docswcrutinizer Jul 25 15:58:50 OK, you were figurative Jul 25 15:58:53 ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D ./ Jul 25 15:59:48 what exactly do I type in place of Jul 25 15:59:57 ( I am so dumb Doc) Jul 25 16:01:03 sorry I'm gone now. Get help to install SHR to a uSD card, and boot GTA01 from that. Quite some people should be able to tell you. If not, /join #openmoko-cdevel and ask there Jul 25 16:01:18 openick: I recommend that you learn some basic *nix first Jul 25 16:01:45 Thansk Doc, LIndi Jul 25 16:01:59 lindi-: he's using ubuntu, so he knows all he needs to get SHR Jul 25 16:02:35 maybe Jul 25 16:02:36 could be worse, he might use Win7 and ask how to use flasher Jul 25 16:02:52 afk, bbl Jul 25 16:03:04 just trying to warn in advance :) Jul 25 16:03:10 I installed Ubuntu from an easy to install disto, but know so little about linux / unix commands Jul 25 16:03:17 I get along somehow Jul 25 16:03:56 get stuck a little on command mode, but could come as far as get a neo working Jul 25 16:04:01 even skilled people have switched to another device after struggling :) Jul 25 16:04:44 the point is that the phone is working fine, I am proud of my achievement, given the fact that the command line is difficult for me, very difficult for me Jul 25 16:04:49 be supportive and helping, not scare new users away :-) Jul 25 16:05:15 so I don't want to disturb the installation, and without risking it, want to try and upgrade to a current version somehow Jul 25 16:05:26 and then will get freerunner and try Jul 25 16:05:40 lindi-: if somebody is willing to learn, by no means tell him 'it's too difficult for you' Jul 25 16:05:56 the basic issues are, I must be making some mistake with the uname -r command Jul 25 16:06:05 how do I get that right Jul 25 16:06:11 sudo uname -r ? Jul 25 16:06:26 openick: the nice thing about SHR on uSD is, you won't destroy what you got now Jul 25 16:06:33 Thanks Doc so much for your +attitude Jul 25 16:06:43 oh, that is excellent Jul 25 16:07:12 I get a SD, insert in in my card reader on my laptop and install? Jul 25 16:08:07 yes, basically Jul 25 16:09:37 I have a sandisck 512mb microsd card, can I try it in the slot beneath the sim card slot? Jul 25 16:09:56 It is a spare that came with the neo 1973 GTA01 Jul 25 16:11:32 openick: yes Jul 25 16:11:43 that is the correct place Jul 25 16:15:21 openick: just download an image such as http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/lite-om-gta02.tar.gz Jul 25 16:15:40 then put your uSD card in your computer Jul 25 16:16:14 openick: it should be automounted to /media/ Jul 25 16:16:46 openick: then open a terminal and cd /media/ Jul 25 16:17:31 then sudo tar xzpf ~/Downloads/lite-om-gta02.tar.gz Jul 25 16:18:23 then cd / ; sudo umount /media/ Jul 25 16:18:24 hello quatrox Jul 25 16:18:34 I got disconnected, went offline Jul 25 16:18:43 so I must have missed part of what you said Jul 25 16:18:50 I will repeat Jul 25 16:19:11 your instutions are visible from line "it should be automounted to /media. Jul 25 16:21:00 It is /media/D03A-D53C Jul 25 16:21:03 I sent you a pm Jul 25 16:21:21 didn't get your pm quatrox Jul 25 16:21:38 strange Jul 25 16:21:43 try to pm me Jul 25 16:22:57 hmm... Jul 25 16:23:03 quatrox, I am using the online verson irc2go, so there must be somelimitation Jul 25 16:23:18 would you be kind enough to mail me at isolatednet at gmail? Jul 25 16:23:42 openick: sure Jul 25 16:24:10 offline version of IRC would be interesting :) Jul 25 16:25:12 I have an irc cleinet smuxi, tried it, it had its own limitations as well Jul 25 16:26:12 hello Jul 25 16:27:12 hello quatrosx Jul 25 16:27:17 hello quatrox Jul 25 16:27:54 quatrox, now I am trying this on smuxi, see that the chats that I send out appears on the window Jul 25 16:28:10 I see your name on the list in the left, but when I right click on your name, there is no menu Jul 25 16:28:18 so don't know how to send a pm Jul 25 16:28:56 openick: I hope you got the mail Jul 25 16:29:47 yes quatrox, I got your mail, sent a quick, interim reply Jul 25 16:38:42 openick: I will eat soon... good luck and feel free to send a mail if there is anything Jul 25 17:24:04 hello Jul 25 17:58:07 hello Jul 25 17:59:45 openick: hello Jul 25 20:04:36 hello Jul 25 20:07:59 hello Jul 25 20:12:38 hello Jul 25 20:15:28 hello Jul 25 20:21:43 hello Jul 25 20:22:10 heh Jul 25 20:34:12 openick is bot? :D **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 00:24:03 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 00:26:16 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 00:26:22 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 00:28:15 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 26 02:59:57 2010