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Aug 03 16:53:59 <balrog-k1n> is Angstrom python package segfaulting in /usr/lib/libreadline.so.5 for anyone?
Aug 03 17:02:28 <balrog-k1n> ah nice, libreadline5 from unstable doesn't segfault
Aug 03 19:51:34 <babamelone> Hi, I have flashed my fr with the latest shr unstable image, but the image seems to be broken, because booting fails with messages as: jffs2_build_inode_pass1: child dir "xyz" of dir ino #xyz appears to be a hard link
Aug 03 19:52:49 <babamelone> The final error message is: JFFS2 error: (60) jffs2_do_read_inode_internal: Argh. Special inode #340 with mode 0xa1ff had more than one node
Aug 03 19:54:05 <babamelone> Am I doing something wrong, because I have the problem with the today's image and the one of the end of July
Aug 03 20:11:44 <undrwater> babamelone: try flashing the .29 kernel image...
Aug 03 20:12:36 <babamelone> can I simply use the testing images and change the feeds to unstable
Aug 03 20:13:24 <undrwater> wouldn't recommend it
Aug 03 20:13:29 <undrwater> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable.29/images/om-gta02/
Aug 03 20:14:31 <undrwater> i think the .29 kernel unstable will work better
Aug 03 20:25:29 <kkb110> current openmoko hardware is too much outdated to buy in 2010
Aug 03 20:29:49 <mickeyl> indeed. unfortunately there are no alternatives if you don't want to make compromises
Aug 03 20:31:26 <kkb110> :( ... So I'm waiting for this http://www.aavamobile.com/   not released yet though
Aug 03 20:31:58 <kkb110> it's funny that they're claiming "The World's First Open Mobile Device"
Aug 03 20:39:52 <Martix> kkb110: Atom? like x86?
Aug 03 20:40:01 <kkb110> I guess so
Aug 03 20:40:48 <Martix> no, thanks :-)
Aug 03 20:43:44 <kkb110> because of the power consumption?
Aug 03 20:50:33 <Martix> yes and design
Aug 03 22:48:02 <|Marco|> I was told there was someone I could ask in this channel about a couple of resistors I managed to destroy/unintentionally remove on the freerunner a6
Aug 03 22:48:25 <|Marco|> I belive it's R101 and R102
Aug 03 22:49:38 <|Marco|> I'm hoping to replace them if I can find out what values they are. But since they are a part of the GSM layout, it's not quite that easy finding the values :S
Aug 03 22:51:15 <SpeedEvil> they are not ont he schematic?
Aug 03 22:51:37 <SpeedEvil> Ask DocScrutinizer.
Aug 03 22:52:35 <|Marco|> SpeedEvil: I think it's related to the NDR connected to the GSM module
Aug 03 22:52:40 <DocScrutinizer> uh? someone summoned me?
Aug 03 22:52:53 <|Marco|> yes
Aug 03 22:53:03 * SpeedEvil points up.
Aug 03 22:53:20 <|Marco|> do you know what values are for R101 and R102 ?
Aug 03 22:53:36 <DocScrutinizer> how'd you know they are R101/2?
Aug 03 22:53:44 <DocScrutinizer> are you sure about that?
Aug 03 22:54:07 <|Marco|> yeah, I found the spot on the placment schematics
Aug 03 22:54:19 <DocScrutinizer> k, those should be accurate
Aug 03 22:54:32 <DocScrutinizer> aren't they in the BOM?
Aug 03 22:55:09 <|Marco|> no, me and quatrox have men pouring over the schematics for the value and couldn't find any refferance to the values :/
Aug 03 22:55:39 <|Marco|> I'm guessing it's related to the NDR connected with the GSM module
Aug 03 23:00:13 <DocScrutinizer> ...
Aug 03 23:00:15 <DocScrutinizer> cya
Aug 03 23:04:58 <undrwater> http://www.careace.net/2010/07/09/samsung-h2-limo-phone-unveils-vodafone-360/
Aug 03 23:05:04 <undrwater> could that be rasterman's phone?
Aug 03 23:39:29 <larsc> the h2 was canceled recently
Aug 04 00:09:19 <spydon> Can anyone recommend any other Linux phone that is out there?
Aug 04 00:09:59 <spydon> My openmoko is weird it has really crappy sound quality no matter what distro I use...
Aug 04 00:12:30 <DocScrutinizer> i'm happy with N900
Aug 04 00:12:43 <undrwater> larsc: i saw that too...just wondering if it was the one rasterman was working on with samsung
Aug 04 00:13:15 <undrwater> spydon: do you need 3g?
Aug 04 00:13:37 <spydon> undrwater, hmm, not really
Aug 04 00:13:37 <DocScrutinizer> limo? nope, raster afaik wasn't related to limo
Aug 04 00:14:34 <undrwater> DocScrutinizer: one of his posts pointed to limo (when asked if he was working on bada)
Aug 04 00:15:20 <undrwater> spydon: n900 is a good alternative then...has 3g...just not on every carrier
Aug 04 00:16:40 <spydon> Okay, nice
Aug 04 00:17:21 <spydon> Do you know if there is any smaller linux phones that are okay too?
Aug 04 00:17:37 <undrwater> bada != linux at all. dont bother following it. looks for limo instead.  > rasterman
Aug 04 00:18:24 <undrwater> spydon: do you consider android to be linux?
Aug 04 00:18:30 <undrwater> spydon: or webOS?
Aug 04 00:18:55 <spydon> undrwater, not really, I feel pretty locked in in android :P
Aug 04 00:18:59 <DocScrutinizer> glad to let you know |Marco| told me he got everything fixed :-D
Aug 04 00:19:34 <brian__> spydon i used debian an had NO sound issues   like shr
Aug 04 00:20:07 <spydon> brian__, I should try that when I get home to the phone! :)
Aug 04 00:20:10 <undrwater> spydon: apparently webOS is less locked in than android...and the pre is pretty small
Aug 04 00:20:25 <brian__> i was running on sdcard
Aug 04 00:20:31 <spydon> undrwater, pre?
Aug 04 00:20:40 <undrwater> spydon: palm pre
Aug 04 00:21:19 <spydon> Ah, okay
Aug 04 00:21:54 <DocScrutinizer> undrwater: yeah, also recently he got a little uncommunicative about current state of that project
Aug 04 00:22:14 <undrwater> DocScrutinizer: my thoughts... :)
Aug 04 00:22:20 <undrwater> that's too bad :(
Aug 04 00:22:29 <DocScrutinizer> ~seen rater
Aug 04 00:22:31 <apt> i haven't seen 'rater', DocScrutinizer
Aug 04 00:22:32 <DocScrutinizer> ~seen raster
Aug 04 00:22:33 <apt> raster <raster@enlightenment/developer/raster> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 5d 53m 35s ago, saying: '"it depends on why"'.
Aug 04 00:22:45 <brian__> its top secret
Aug 04 00:23:56 <|Marco|> wee, it worked :P
Aug 04 00:24:37 <|Marco|> Looks like it worked just soldering a jumper over the old resistor spots, thanks DocScrutinizer :P
Aug 04 00:24:53 <DocScrutinizer> yw, any time
Aug 04 00:25:07 <undrwater> |Marco|: that should be a :D or :) at least, no?
Aug 04 00:25:49 <|Marco|> humz, as you mentioned, I'll take a look at the GSM sensetivity as soon as I'm flashing it with a newer release :)
Aug 04 00:25:54 <|Marco|> undrwater: yeah, true ;)
Aug 04 00:26:00 <|Marco|> XD
Aug 04 00:26:24 <undrwater> there ya go! :D
Aug 04 00:27:00 <brian__> Marco SHR?
Aug 04 00:28:38 <DocScrutinizer> if there's any problems, then use silver Ag5 or somesuch solder and silver wire, make sure the surface is clean and shiny, then seal with some varnish so it won't oxidize. That's RF path up to 1.9GHz (-> wikipedia skin effect)
Aug 04 00:28:56 <DocScrutinizer> |Marco|: ^^^
Aug 04 00:31:25 <|Marco|> brian__: yeah, I've got H1 on the uSD of the A6 and the A5 so I'm going to give the latest image of SHR a shot, it's been almost a year since I've done anything with the pore mokos
Aug 04 00:31:57 <|Marco|> DocScrutinizer: thanks
Aug 04 00:32:31 <|Marco|> sorry, I'm a bit slow right now, it's 02:30 here now :S
Aug 04 00:33:58 <DocScrutinizer> strange, it's 2:33 here :-P
Aug 04 00:35:06 <DocScrutinizer> well, probably you live to the west of me
Aug 04 00:36:52 <|Marco|> okay, 02:36 ;)
Aug 04 00:37:00 <|Marco|> Norway
Aug 04 00:37:09 <DocScrutinizer> yay
Aug 04 00:37:49 <DocScrutinizer> that's more to the North than East
Aug 04 00:37:59 <|Marco|> yeah, :-D
Aug 04 00:38:58 <spydon> |Marco|, I was in Norway for like a week ago, everything was so freakin expensive compared to Sweden :P
Aug 04 00:39:40 <|Marco|> hehehe, yeah :p
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